Guest Andy Kempster Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 i have seen a couple of different label designs for this...which is the proper one? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Headsy Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 mine is light blue, is that not a proper one ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) Not aware of any 'unreal' ones as far as I know. Light blue is the standard issue colour isn't it? Your not thinking of Paul Mooneys 'Shotgun' release? That had the uniissued 'Keep What you Got' as the A-Side. Edited June 17, 2010 by harrogatesoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy Kempster Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Not aware of any 'unreal' ones as far as I know. Light blue is the standard issue colour isn't it? both i have seen are light blue but it is the text style that is different, one is bold block capitals and the other is a more italic style. i'll try and find some pics Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy Kempster Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 both i have seen are light blue but it is the text style that is different, one is bold block capitals and the other is a more italic style. i'll try and find some pics hopefully you can see these ok Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) Know what you mean Andy now. Pretty sure both designs are proper. I'll have to check which mine is - Is there one with the stylised font too?? Edited June 17, 2010 by harrogatesoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy Kempster Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Know what you mean Andy now. Pretty sure both designs are proper. I'll have to check which mine is - Is there one with the stylised font too?? just dont want to go buying myself a boot, you know what i mean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) Chained & Bound got booted on OOTP. I'd be very surprised if Mine Was Real got booted but then I don't know everything! Absolutley essential material from Rozetta. Be sure to get Paul Mooneys Selecta 45 with the above mentioned unissued track too. In fact the Soulscape CD of hers' is well worth getting if you don't have it already. Oh! and the 3 Hotlanta CD's put out by Kent! I'm getting giddy now.... Edited June 17, 2010 by harrogatesoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 hopefully you can see these ok Neither of those are Boots, Andy. Great tune written by Sam Dees wife, Lillian. INCREDIBLE flipside too, in "Who You Gonna Love" - Sam Dees perfection! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy Kempster Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Neither of those are Boots, Andy. Great tune written by Sam Dees wife, Lillian. INCREDIBLE flipside too, in "Who You Gonna Love" - Sam Dees perfection! Sean nice one Sean, I shall go and buy quite happily now cheers...Andy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) There seems to be three designs on Mine Was Real, which are probably down to different pressing plants. Clintone in block caitals with CT-001 and Pub Moonsong, Cotillion, BMI and time on the right hand side of the label inderneath the calalogue number (CL-20247 SP). Clintone in stylised font with 45-001 and Pub Moonsong, Cotillion, BMI and time on the right hand side of the label inderneath the calalogue number (CL-20247-MO). Clintone in stylised font with CT-001 on the right hand side of the label and the Pub Moonsong, Cotillion, BMI and time on the left hand side of the label (CL-20247-PL). The production credits amd horn and string arrangements are all also in a different order on the three releases. Edited June 17, 2010 by John Reed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy Kempster Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Chained & Bound got booted on OOTP. I'd be very surprised if Mine Was Real got booted but then I don't know everything! Absolutley essential material from Rozetta. Be sure to get Paul Mooneys Selecta 45 with the above mentioned unissued track too. In fact the Soulscape CD of hers' is well worth getting if you don't have it already. Oh! and the 3 Hotlanta CD's put out by Kent! I'm getting giddy now.... i shall be checking these out, cheers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) Great info John. Thanks. Will have to check which ones I have- I keep buying spares of Clintone 45s when I see 'em cheap. Why I don't know! As Sean stated - the flip ' Who You Gonna Love' is just brilliant. Maybe my favourite of hers. The Kent CD's cover the GMG / Aware / Clintone / Moonsong etc catalogues and just perfect and essential listening. For anyone mildy interested they are a great way of introducing all that is great about southern soul. KENT CD's SOULSCAPE Fill yer boots! Edited June 17, 2010 by harrogatesoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy Kempster Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Great info John. Thanks. Will have to check which ones I have- I keep buying spares of Clintone 45s when I see 'em cheap. Why I don't know! As Sean stated - the flip ' Who You Gonna Love' is just brilliant. Maybe my favourite of hers. The Kent CD's cover the GMG / Aware / Clintone / Moonsong etc catalogues and just perfect and essential listening. For anyone mildy interested they are a great way of introducing all that is great about southern soul. KENT CD's SOULSCAPE Fill yer boots! PM'D YOU Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) As Sean stated - the flip ' Who You Gonna Love' is just brilliant. Maybe my favourite of hers. A fantastic tune indeed, but that one is on the flipside to "I Can Feel My Love Comin' Down". "A Woman's Way" (superb as well) is the flipside to "Mine Was Real". Edited June 17, 2010 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Told you I get all giddy about Clintone 45s Sebastian! Of course you're right. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) Told you I get all giddy about Clintone 45s Sebastian! Of course you're right. That was my BooBoo, Rich. I lead you on the rocks mate. Sebastian is right. "Who You Gonna Love" is CT 003. Sorry, Sean Edited June 17, 2010 by Sean Hampsey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 No need Sean. Should have realised myself before jumping in. Maybe worth noting the below also got a release on Columbia. Issues being a little tricky to get as I usually see demos. There was also a great interview with her in an issue of In The Basement. 016 - Rozetta Johnson - It's Been So Nice b/w (I Like Making That) Early Morning Love Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 it was a decent seller on clintone as well.got good distribution by atlantic. quality 45 tho. why it dont sell for more on the bay..... not sure, perhaps the majority still dont know it ? dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 No need Sean. Should have realised myself before jumping in. Maybe worth noting the below also got a release on Columbia. Issues being a little tricky to get as I usually see demos. There was also a great interview with her in an issue of In The Basement. 016 - Rozetta Johnson - It's Been So Nice b/w (I Like Making That) Early Morning Love ..and credited to ROSZETTA Johnson on Clintone and Columbia Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 it was a decent seller on clintone as well.got good distribution by atlantic. quality 45 tho. why it dont sell for more on the bay..... not sure, perhaps the majority still dont know it ? dave Absolutley Dave. But then quality + price doesn't always stack up does it? Great 45s at very cheap money OR absolute shi** 45s at loadsa money! And vice versa of course....It's never going to be an in-demander or wasn't played at some-venue-in-1979 so will never command the price. As you say sold quite well but the market for collecting such 45s is relatively small. (which is good if you like it then you don't have to pay through the nose!)Supply and demand i guess. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 "who are you gonna love" is a fave of mine I may actually still be listening from a CD compilation though not sure if I have the 45 or not about time I collected a few 45s by this lady. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Neither of those are Boots, Andy. Great tune written by Sam Dees wife, Lillian. INCREDIBLE flipside too, in "Who You Gonna Love" - Sam Dees perfection! Sean That is a brilliant record Sean , but it isn't the flip of " Mine was real " , it's actually " A womans way " , which is excellent as well .Hope you don't mind me correcting ......cheers ,Eddie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 'A Woman's Way' is actually the A side of this 45, BTW. On the subject of 'Mine Was Real', there's also that version by somebody Pittman (with another Sam Dees tune on the other side) on Mannequin Records (I think - I'm doing this quickly and from memory). It has the same backing track as far as I can tell, but the (white) 'singer' - if that's the right word to describe her - is very poor. It seems to be a vanity project, funded by some sugar daddy for Miss Pittman, whose picture is on the label. Best avoided unless you're a hard core Dees collector. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 'A Woman's Way' is actually the A side of this 45, BTW. On the subject of 'Mine Was Real', there's also that version by somebody Pittman (with another Sam Dees tune on the other side) on Mannequin Records (I think - I'm doing this quickly and from memory). It has the same backing track as far as I can tell, but the (white) 'singer' - if that's the right word to describe her - is very poor. It seems to be a vanity project, funded by some sugar daddy for Miss Pittman, whose picture is on the label. Best avoided unless you're a hard core Dees collector. Its Sylvia Pittman and its pants, but thats not saying that some will class it as blue eyed soul and start putting a high price on it, like other white soulless versions that have been discussed in the past. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
chrissie Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) Top Top Toon and one I play out, also a Blue Skies favourite. Will be playing it at Cheap as Chips for deff. Paid about £25 for demo a few years ago QoFxx Labels a bit tatty for the chin strokers but plays fine Edited June 18, 2010 by chrissie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Its Sylvia Pittman and its pants, but thats not saying that some will class it as blue eyed soul and start putting a high price on it, like other white soulless versions that have been discussed in the past. and the the side has 'potential as it is also another Dees effort and a dancer by Bill Brandon 'Whatever I Am'. Both sides are awful but I have it because it is Sam Dees - sad as I am. I think there is a story behind it - Sean H ? Ithink was going to tell me - I'll ask him at Just soul Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Nice to see this thread. When I released 'Mine Was Real' on the flip side of the previously unissued 'You Better Keep What You Got' (Shotgun SHOT 102) in 2007 I was amazed at how many people weren't familiar with it. I put it on the flip side just because I'd always liked it so much and I thought it deserved more attention. I had always wondered why it wasn't so well known on the scene, considering the obvious potential it has. By the way, the different US issues on Clintone are all legal. Atlantic used different pressing plants in each region (such as Specialty, Monarch, Plastic Products etc) and each plant did their own processing from duplicates of the same lacquers. Each plant also arranged label printing, that's why there are different pressing and print styles. 'Make It Real' was credited to Lillian Dees (who is now deceased) but there's no doubt Sam wrote it. Sometimes his wife may have helped or made suggestions, other times he just used her name as a kind of tribute. As for Rozetta (or Roszetta as she calls herself), she wasn't very well when I last spoke with her. I hope she's doing better and I'll give her a call to find out. Best regards, Paul www.selectarecords.com Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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