Brid N Whitby Why So Different?

[Goldsoul]

Is'nt it just a case of one is run solely for profit and the other is'nt

Both are run for profit and enjoyment.

Whitby is £30 by the way.

Edited June 16, 2010 by The Golden 101

[TOAD]

ok then let me explain as your newish on here...theres a lot of wind up posts...and im not the only one who thinks this may have been one intended to stir things up.

youd not belive the lengths promoters go too to sabatage other events !

just out of interest has the first poster been reading this...i think not

[Guest Northern PhanTom]

Back to the Topic please.

Have been to every Whitby since it started and went to Bridlington last year back to back find both good value for money can't say why one costs more than the other and to be honest don't give a monkeys as long as when I get there, I get what it says on the tin.

Tom

[Chalky]

No mate was not named at you specifically; my point is moderators should let Topics run their course unless they get really out of hand.

If peeps reading the thread don't like the way its heading let the ones who do, get on with it.

We live in a nanny state, now we are being censored on forums to easy!

Tom

what I said was my own personal view (I am allowed one) and nothing to do with moderation. The mods haven't got involved I did on a personal level. The so called tongue in cheek comments weren't needed, no one knows the overheads, how many needed through the door to cover their costs etc and why there is a tenner price difference and in the scheme of things does it matter, £30 is cheap for three days entertainment. The tongue in cheek comments from more than one, had one meaning, anyone could see that and anyone with any knowledge of this forum knew exactly where the topic was heading. There was no need to say one does it solely for the money and the other to cover their costs, load of crap IMHO, both do it for the same reason.

off to work!!

[Guest]

What a disingenuous question!

I suspect you type with one hand because the other is holding a very large wooden spoon.

People promoting weekenders are entitled to charge whatever they like, if you think the ticket price is too much to pay: don't go. Simple as that.

Hi Paul,

From now on I will just read other peoples posts, Ive been accused a couple of times as trying to cause trouble which I am not, I thought this was a fair question, I am not a promoter never have been never will be.

Dont have a problem with either £20 or if it was £100 never said I did just asked what the differences are because not been to either.

Best r

Bob

[Wiganer1]

whichever weekender you go to - youre helping to kill off the traditional weekly saturday allniter!!!

theres simply too many weekenders on for my liking,,not just once a year but twice,three times! OMG!!

i hope it never happens but it looks that way to me!! needless to say i wont be going either! but sure they'll be both brilliant events...

[Rbman]

Both seem to be very good value for money at these prices.

As far as I know this isnt www.gocomparesoulweekenderscomparethemeerkats.com

Steve, I can't get that link to work.....

[viphitman]

It s bloody cheap IMHO. The soul scene have been a bunch of tight gits for years Tenner for an allnighter and still some moan. You wouldn't get a night out in a club for ten hours for a pound an hour. Bet it would cost double that in a top dance club? The cost to the average punter has hardly gone up for years, especially soul nights, we seem to want everything on the cheap.

Just had a google, Ministry Of Sound, £13 10.30 till 6.30 the cheapest, many other nights at £15 and £20. Would a soulie pay £20 for an allnighter?

[Little-stevie]

Hi Paul,

From now on I will just read other peoples posts, Ive been accused a couple of times as trying to cause trouble which I am not, I thought this was a fair question, I am not a promoter never have been never will be.

Dont have a problem with either £20 or if it was £100 never said I did just asked what the differences are because not been to either.

Best r

Bob

No Bob

Keep posting, the more that take part in the forum the better...

You are new to the forum while people like Paul are old heads, he is looking at the question with his old head on and not thinking that you could not know where the question could lead....

Some topics are leading questions from certain people knowing that it will start a shit storm Paul and others thought your question was one of these...

The more you take part in the forum the more you will learn as to how things are and who is who.....

Maybe just take part in a topic that you start sometimes and it won't look like you have just opened the door and tossed in a grenade

Cheers....

[Guest southpaw]

No Bob

Keep posting, the more that take part in the forum the better...

You are new to the forum while people like Paul are old heads, he is looking at the question with his old head on and not thinking that you could not know where the question could lead....

Some topics are leading questions from certain people knowing that it will start a shit storm Paul and others thought your question was one of these...

The more you take part in the forum the more you will learn as to how things are and who is who.....

Maybe just take part in a topic that you start sometimes and it won't look like you have just opened the door and tossed in a grenade

Cheers....

Yes Bob keep posting mate

[Ian Parker]

£20 and £35 is not a lot of money for a full weekend of soul, who ever the promoter is.

I agree Joan!

I have paid £20 for a one evening event at 40s & 50s night ...............so both are very good value

I tend to go to the Bridlington weekender & not to the Whitby one, but only because i have not fancied a second weekender straight after

Debbie x

Edited June 17, 2010 by parkash

[ImberBoy]

A lot of promoters have tried to touch me up.

[Tabs]

It's the kilt that drives them wild.

A lot of promoters have tried to touch me up.

[Goldsoul]

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[Guest Phoenix8049]

Excuse me while i put in my 10Ps worth.

I think the guy asked a simple question in all innocence.

Why does everybody always assume on here that if you mention comparing venues or music policies or fashion or oldies or underplayed oldies, you get a barrage of insults and people think you are just trying to wind everybody up.

Boy there is some PARANOID people on this forum.

Rant Over.

Stu.

[Guest Northern PhanTom]

Have been to several do's run by both promoter's over the years and can honestly say no one forced me there with a gun against my head, never thought I was being ripped off by either in fact if it wasn't for promoters of these 2 venues, whether they are in it for fame, gain or the love of the scene fact is there would not be venue's to attend.

Think the prices charged at each event are still good value for money if however one was charging £20 and the other £100 then I'm sure peeps would vote with their feet/pockets.

Tom

[NEV]

Excuse me while i put in my 10Ps worth.

I think the guy asked a simple question in all innocence.

Why does everybody always assume on here that if you mention comparing venues or music policies or fashion or oldies or underplayed oldies, you get a barrage of insults and people think you are just trying to wind everybody up.

Boy there is some PARANOID people on this forum.

Rant Over.

Stu.

Here here Stu.....i thought it was a genuine post ,unlike some, or i would'nt have bothered replying .

Cant believe the way it's got people's backs up....looking at Bob's profile i'd say, he does'nt come across as someone who deliberatly posed the question to cause trouble or bring these two events to our attention by way of plugging either of em...which is often the case for these kind of posts.

Hopefully Bob got the answers he was looking for ,but more so ,he got a baptism of how sensitive some people are on here

p.s answer to Kev's last post ......people putting events on a week before isnt half as bad as people putting it on the same night in a 5 mile radius, and that goes on very often

[Cunnie]

Debbie- Couldn't agree more. Any chance you could tell the Brid promoters who deliberately put a weekender on a few miles away from Whitby(since 2002!) to undermine our promotion?

Would it not be easier to tell the Bridlington promoter who lives just around the corner face to face Kev rather than throw false accusations like the one above around on an open forum?

Reason Bridlington is on the dates it is is that they were the available dates for the next 10 years, Fact.

Think you'll find that a lot of folks actually go to stop on the East coast for the week & do both weekenders so it could be said that you & the Brid promoters are actually unwittingly helping each other.

Would have done the above myself but for the fact that Whitby clashes with the EMS charity weekender.

[Goldsoul]

Would it not be easier to tell the Bridlington promoter who lives just around the corner face to face Kev

rather than throw false accusations like the one above around on an open forum?

Reason Bridlington is on the dates it is is that they were the available dates for the next 10 years, Fact

Think you'll find that a lot of folks actually go to stop on the East coast for the week & do both weekenders so it could be said that you & the Brid promoters are actually unwittingly helping each other.

Would have done the above myself but for the fact that Whitby clashes with the EMS charity weekender.

You mean EMS clashes with us. We have been there since 02! Convenient for Brid though.

[Cunnie]

You mean EMS clashes with us. We have been there since 02! Convenient for Brid though.

EMS is a charity event Kev & the last one raised over £4000 for the Macmillan cancer trust & to be honest I don't think it will affect you very much so no need for the nit picking really is there?.

My point was not about being convienient for Brid. More about being convienient for the punters that are doing both events.

[NEV]

You mean EMS clashes with us. We have been there since 02! Convenient for Brid though.

CAN OF WORMS

[SOULCENTRAL]

what I said was my own personal view (I am allowed one) and nothing to do with moderation. The mods haven't got involved I did on a personal level. The so called tongue in cheek comments weren't needed, no one knows the overheads, how many needed through the door to cover their costs etc and why there is a tenner price difference and in the scheme of things does it matter, £30 is cheap for three days entertainment. The tongue in cheek comments from more than one, had one meaning, anyone could see that and anyone with any knowledge of this forum knew exactly where the topic was heading. There was no need to say one does it solely for the money and the other to cover their costs, load of crap IMHO, both do it for the same reason.

off to work!!

Chalky, you still persist in making assumptions regarding the direction of the post and also make a point of saying that some replies stated the event was "done soley for the money".

In both my earlier replies i have refuted these claims although you do not seem to have taken this on board!

If you want to persist with this view, fair enough. My consience is clear. Enough said!!!!!!

regards ROY

[scunnyjack]

Would be happy just to get to one of them and they all represent good value for money.

Cleggy and Brid always fall on family birthday weekends, Whitby on a junior football tournament where I am involved, and for the last three years ,Blackpool the same weekend I am involved with a football charity function.

I do support a number of local nights which is equally as important though.

Steve

[Rednose]

This has probably been asked many times but I'm quite new back on the scene after a rest.

Why is Bridlington Weekender £20 and Whitby Weekender £35

Best r

Bob

extra policing costs ?

[Mike]

post by one member regarding moderation split and moved to feedback

[paultp]

Hi Paul,

From now on I will just read other peoples posts, Ive been accused a couple of times as trying to cause trouble which I am not, I thought this was a fair question, I am not a promoter never have been never will be.

Dont have a problem with either £20 or if it was £100 never said I did just asked what the differences are because not been to either.

Best r

Bob

Hi Bob,

Do what you like regarding the forum, it is a place for discussion.

You didn't ask what the differences were, you asked "Why is Bridlington Weekender £20 and Whitby Weekender £35" - to be honest, a topic that starts like that is only going to invite people's opinions good or bad rather than a discussion on the merits of the two weekenders.

As for whether you are a promoter - I have no idea why you would mention that - is it relevant?

Cheers

Paul

[Guest Drewes]

Don't know the answer to the question as I've been to neither venue.

But going to Bridlington for the first time,and profit or break even....................don't give a monkeys,We're going to have a Blast

Steve

Am sure you will steve... my favourite. The Spa is an amazing venue, its massive with a great dance floor.... and make sure you cast your eye up to that dome in the early hours when the suns starting to rise .... and the promoters go well out of their way to ensure its success... IMVHO, the fact that theyre sold out is testament to the popularity of the event. Not been to whitby..... yet x

[paultp]

No Bob

Keep posting, the more that take part in the forum the better...

You are new to the forum while people like Paul are old heads, he is looking at the question with his old head on and not thinking that you could not know where the question could lead....

Some topics are leading questions from certain people knowing that it will start a shit storm Paul and others thought your question was one of these...

The more you take part in the forum the more you will learn as to how things are and who is who.....

Maybe just take part in a topic that you start sometimes and it won't look like you have just opened the door and tossed in a grenade

Cheers....

Wonderful attitude but please don't try and explain why I post on here, I'm happy to explain myself.

As Bob says, I'm not the first to suggest he is "trying to cause trouble" and this topic follows hot on the heels of his other topics such as "DJ's Fees", "Requests, are they ignored?", "Less ego=better DJ".

Can't imagine why I jumped to the conclusion that this topic is one designed to attract argument.

Either Bob is very naive, or blatantly shit stirring. That's just my humble opinion which is worth nothing really, I'm just tired of all the negative topics. Oh yeah, and I'm entitled to my own opinion whether anyone agrees or not.

Carry on the "Calm down! Calm down" theme if you want but IMHO this sort of rubbish needs commenting on.

Cheers

Paul

[Guest]

Hi Bob,

Do what you like regarding the forum, it is a place for discussion.

You didn't ask what the differences were, you asked "Why is Bridlington Weekender £20 and Whitby Weekender £35" - to be honest, a topic that starts like that is only going to invite people's opinions good or bad rather than a discussion on the merits of the two weekenders.

As for whether you are a promoter - I have no idea why you would mention that - is it relevant?

Cheers

Paul

Paul,

I mentioned I was not a promoter as a way of explaining my naivety of knowing what is involved in putting on a weekender hence the initial question.

I remember the scene as very friendly where people from all walks and parts of Britain and beyond attending a mutitude of Soul events in great spirits and togetherness.

replies to what I thought was a simple question prove otherwise which is very sad.

When fairly recently started getting back on the scene when asking how i find out what events were on I was told go to Soul Souce, I did and this is the place to go to find soul nights all - nighters weekenders etc, I was also excited at the prospect of asking a handful of what I misstakenly thought were harmless questions:-

Each and every one of these have had a barrage of negative and aggressive responses admitedly not really aimed at me but i feel not warranted

Best r

Bob

[Guest Phoenix8049]

Paul,

I mentioned I was not a promoter as a way of explaining my naivety of knowing what is involved in putting on a weekender hence the initial question.

I remember the scene as very friendly where people from all walks and parts of Britain and beyond attending a mutitude of Soul events in great spirits and togetherness.

replies to what I thought was a simple question prove otherwise which is very sad.

When fairly recently started getting back on the scene when asking how i find out what events were on I was told go to Soul Souce, I did and this is the place to go to find soul nights all - nighters weekenders etc, I was also excited at the prospect of asking a handful of what I misstakenly thought were harmless questions:-

Each and every one of these have had a barrage of negative and aggressive responses admitedly not really aimed at me but i feel not warranted

Best r

Bob

Dont let them get to you bob mate.

The majority of people on here are good people.

And still are many good people at all the venues.

I have not been on here that long myself and have negative comments

which were not called for when i have posted.

It just a very small minority on here that think they know it all.

And judging by some of the posts i have read, my cat knows more about Northern Soul than they do.

Good Luck mate.

Stu.

[Little-stevie]

Wonderful attitude but please don't try and explain why I post on here, I'm happy to explain myself.

As Bob says, I'm not the first to suggest he is "trying to cause trouble" and this topic follows hot on the heels of his other topics such as "DJ's Fees", "Requests, are they ignored?", "Less ego=better DJ".

Can't imagine why I jumped to the conclusion that this topic is one designed to attract argument.

Either Bob is very naive, or blatantly shit stirring. That's just my humble opinion which is worth nothing really, I'm just tired of all the negative topics. Oh yeah, and I'm entitled to my own opinion whether anyone agrees or not.

Carry on the "Calm down! Calm down" theme if you want but IMHO this sort of rubbish needs commenting on.

Cheers

Paul

The calm dowm calm down theme , i can see a Scouse joke coming from that.... Lets say Bob is very naive in his posting, then its calm down indeed

While i agree that the negative posts do get some of us down, they also have many tuning in for them and they are the posts that get more views.... Maybe its like the traffic that slows on the motorway to see a bad car crash....

The post from Mr Roberts????? why bother trying to score points against Bridlington... Aint both events sold out????? if you had poor turn out with another weekender up the road then maybe i could take your point but its a full house at both venues

A win win i think they call that...

Calm down calm down indeed

[Shsdave]

I'm going to Whitby for free so i don't care what it costs

Any spare wristbands Robman ?

[Shsdave]

The calm dowm calm down theme , i can see a Scouse joke coming from that.... Lets say Bob is very naive in his posting, then its calm down indeed

While i agree that the negative posts do get some of us down, they also have many tuning in for them and they are the posts that get more views.... Maybe its like the traffic that slows on the motorway to see a bad car crash....

The post from Mr Roberts????? why bother trying to score points against Bridlington... Aint both events sold out????? if you had poor turn out with another weekender up the road then maybe i could take your point but its a full house at both venues

A win win i think they call that...

Calm down calm down indeed

To be honest I think mr roberts relishes posts like these, he appears to work on the premise that no publicity is bad publicity as it gives him ample opportunity to constantly talk up his promotions, so I wouldn't worry too much about the original & subsequent posts.

hail hail the king of northern soul ....lol

[Naughty Boy]

. Well when i first read this thread i thought one to stay away from and would have done until that second post which is a shame because the first was ok, someone needs to get a grip with false accusations and untruths , its always someone else's fault . whats the word para d .

Edited June 18, 2010 by Naughty Boy

[soulatsouthlodge]

Quite agree, none of us know the true costs. The Whitby venue is certainly more upmarket. Personally I love it and have done since 2005. If

someone doesn't think it is good value then there is only one answer, there are obviously plenty of us that do. Keep up the good work Kev!

[Godzilla]

East Riding Council have been have been aggressively marketing their venues, particularly the Spa, in direct competition with Scarborough Borough Council who operate the Whitby one. I think it's likely that the Brid venue will therefore be quite a bit cheaper to hire. That was one (but far the only) reason why the Musicport World Music festival relocated from Whitby to Bridlington in 2008.

No axe to grind here by the way - just a bit of local perspective. I actually love both venues and can't wait to see the result of the developments currently underway at the Spa in Scarborough too.

Godz

[Guest soulmaguk]

I have been to nearly all the Whitby and the Brid ones, they are two different events all together, the very first Whitby, and Whitby was the first, to the very first Brid one. The thing about Whitby is it never ceases to delight me, seeing Alexander Patton in the flesh at Whitby, wow! i didn't know he was going to be on, what a bonus, and we will probably never see him again. Whitby delivers, with patches, soul bags, beer-towels and braces with keeping the corner stone of British 'Northern Soul' flair in their sights. £30 no probs.

Brid was ballsey in the early days, a true Yorkshire affair, Brid takes on the massive job of now recruiting new soul fans these days, making and taking different rooms for playing to new tastes and thirsts for the various genres that have emerged within the scene. Rare Room Recomended. A good hearty £20 I say.

Personally, I'm not fussed, because I'm off to Kos on holiday tommorrow.

George Anderson (Scarborough)

[Dave West]

Back to the original topic, there's no answer really, we don't know what overheads are etc. When booking weekender events l imagine you have to book for a few years as it wouldn't be an annual event if the following year someone else had booked it, therefore they may see the opertunity to overcharge the promoter. Would have thought. Dj fees would be high too as most dj would need accomodation etc. £15 difference eh... What's that ? Two double vodka red bulls hic. Burp...

Edited June 19, 2010 by Daveboogaloo

[Dave West]

Actually it's only £10 not £15 difference and only £5 difference to scarborough and skegness weekender but nobodys mentioning those and that's why the Whitby v brid. Debackle keeps rearing it's head.

Edited June 19, 2010 by Daveboogaloo

[Mike]

Paul,

I mentioned I was not a promoter as a way of explaining my naivety of knowing what is involved in putting on a weekender hence the initial question.

I remember the scene as very friendly where people from all walks and parts of Britain and beyond attending a mutitude of Soul events in great spirits and togetherness.

replies to what I thought was a simple question prove otherwise which is very sad.

When fairly recently started getting back on the scene when asking how i find out what events were on I was told go to Soul Souce, I did and this is the place to go to find soul nights all - nighters weekenders etc, I was also excited at the prospect of asking a handful of what I misstakenly thought were harmless questions:-

Each and every one of these have had a barrage of negative and aggressive responses admitedly not really aimed at me but i feel not warranted

Best r

Bob

Bob you gone quiet ???

some interesting posts and replies by you

made me look for an intro, couldn't find one ?

can you post one up,

nothing major needed, just where you from and that sort of thing

just so people know who they are talking to

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?/forum/57-members-shouts/

ta

mike

[ImberBoy]

I smell a rat as well

[Guest Mart B]

Looking at various threads i thought i would post...

Kev Roberts and Rob Wigley who i know personally... they both originate from the Mansfield area and they both have the knowledge of the Norhern soul scene second to none from early 1970ts to present day also both have record collections to be envious of ,which is a nice scenario to have..... promoters actually interested in the Northern soul scene!.

They may well make a few bob so what,,the organisation for these avents must be very hard work.equipment/staff/flyers/ticket distribution/djs/ etc etc.

"They dont have to do it.".. the scene wouldnt be has vibrant... without these guys around.

Cheers Mart B....

[spot]

Jesus I've just scanned this Topic & realised this is what sickens me about the scene, a general question then it's all hands on deck to have a quick backhanded swipe at anyone who dares to make a living off the back of the scene, we go to Whitby because we love the place & have a great weekend with friends, Brid (IMVHO) is a bit of a dump & I can't remember the last time I went or even thought of going there. We all know that "The Antidote" was put on to try & sink Whitby because of personal dislikes & thats sad because I like both parties & hope they both make a worth while profit out of it. So you pay your money & make your choice, it's up to you then to vote with your feet,as Nev has. So lets just enjoy which ever one you choose to attend,I know I will.

Take care,be safe & remember,"A wouldn't it be nice to get on with me neighbours,but they make it very clear,they got no time for ravers",

Spot.

p.s. Please don't both replying to this because I can't be arsed with it all.

Edited June 20, 2010 by spot

[Anais nin Carms]

I think you are quite cute when you get arsy spot shall I tell you why I like Whitby in particular and this isn't comparison to Brid... I only did Brid once so i can't comment and it was at another venue I think ?

I like the quaintness of Whitby , I love it's little shops and I adore GREENS the restaurant and the fish and chips at the Kazbar aswell.... lets not get into the scampi eh then there is that lovely street with the most amazing under wear gifts for your loved ones and little antique shops and tea shops , all very tasteful.

The venue... see its not just about soul for me ?

An amazing venue that makes you feel like you are on a giagantic ship as you float along its dancefloor looking out of a giant port hole to sea ( I do hope the covers are off this year ) lets see the white of your eyes !

I do find the nights a bit crowded for my taste too much of a buzz of excited people for me , it's the afternoon sessions I love at Whitby

What I hate ... the hill ! I darn't try the 159 steps

[ImberBoy]

Jesus I've just scanned this Topic & realised this is what sickens me about the scene, a general question then it's all hands on deck to have a quick backhanded swipe at anyone who dares to make a living off the back of the scene, we go to Whitby because we love the place & have a great weekend with friends, Brid (IMVHO) is a bit of a dump & I can't remember the last time I went or even thought of going there. We all know that "The Antidote" was put on to try & sink Whitby because of personal dislikes & thats sad because I like both parties & hope they both make a worth while profit out of it. So you pay your money & make your choice, it's up to you then to vote with your feet,as Nev has. So lets just enjoy which ever one you choose to attend,I know I will.

Take care,be safe & remember,"A wouldn't it be nice to get on with me neighbours,but they make it very clear,they got no time for ravers",

Spot.

p.s. Please don't both replying to this because I can't be arsed with it all.

Well said Spot!

[Rob Wigley]

Looking at various threads i thought i would post...

Kev Roberts and Rob Wigley who i know personally... they both originate from the Mansfield area and they both have the knowledge of the Norhern soul scene second to none from early 1970ts to present day also both have record collections to be envious of ,which is a nice scenario to have..... promoters actually interested in the Northern soul scene!.

They may well make a few bob so what,,the organisation for these avents must be very hard work.equipment/staff/flyers/ticket distribution/djs/ etc etc.

"They dont have to do it.".. the scene wouldnt be has vibrant... without these guys around.

Cheers Mart B....

[/quote

Thanks for the kind words Mart-however Brid is a "Team" event with our co-promoters Pat Brady & Rob Wicks -plus a massive army of helpers, djs etc which make the event run smoothly!

just a note to say please dont travel to Brid without tickets /e-mail confirmation as the event is officially now

SOLD OUT !

Rob & Karen

[Guest hurryup]

Quite agree, none of us know the true costs. The Whitby venue is certainly more upmarket. Personally I love it and have done since 2005. If

someone doesn't think it is good value then there is only one answer, there are obviously plenty of us that do. Keep up the good work Kev!

I don't agree that the Whitby venue is more upmarket by any means, but the place itself is lovely.

For the number of rooms on offer at Brid, you can't beat it for value for money plus you've got that beautiful sandy beach a stones throw away apparently there's going to be a footi competition on the beach on Saturday for anyone who's feeling energetic.

Another thing I like about Brid, is the "genuine, nice people" who run it and who go out of their way to "help" their punters. The atmosphere is soooo much more friendlier than at Whitby

Role on Friday :lol:

[soulcrew]

This has probably been asked many times but I'm quite new back on the scene after a rest.

Why is Bridlington Weekender £20 and Whitby Weekender £35

Best r

Bob

Just a suggestion and i have no axe to grind with either party because both are friends of me and joy but why dont both sets of promoters invite bob and thier lass or partner to come and have a look at both events as guests and then ask bob to come back on after and tell us his thoughts on both weekenders(be nice to see what someone who has just come back on the scene thinks to our fantastic music in 2010)only an idea all the best Yocky. ps Bob why not try the Skeggy weekender as well brilliant weekender imho cheers.

[Pete S]

Just a suggestion and i have no axe to grind with either party because both are friends of me and joy but why dont both sets of promoters invite bob and thier lass or partner to come and have a look at both events as guests and then ask bob to come back on after and tell us his thoughts on both weekenders(be nice to see what someone who has just come back on the scene thinks to our fantastic music in 2010)only an idea all the best Yocky. ps Bob why not try the Skeggy weekender as well brilliant weekender imho cheers.

Bob's probably busy promoting his venue.

[soulcrew]

Bob's probably busy promoting his venue.

Which venue does he run Pete