Brid N Whitby Why So Different?

[Guest]

This has probably been asked many times but I'm quite new back on the scene after a rest.

Why is Bridlington Weekender £20 and Whitby Weekender £35

Best r

Bob

[TOAD]

two differant promoters

[bri pinch]

WHITBY IS A BIT POSHER THAN BRID..............ALLEDGEDLY

BRI PINCH.

SUNDAY CHILLOUT@HORSE AND GROOM, 20TH JUNE, EAST LAITH GATE, DONCASTER.

[KevH]

Fresh fish at Whitby?

[Rbman]

I'm going to Whitby for free so i don't care what it costs

[NEV]

Is'nt it just a case of one is run solely for profit and the other is'nt

[SOULCENTRAL]

This has probably been asked many times but I'm quite new back on the scene after a rest.

Why is Bridlington Weekender £20 and Whitby Weekender £35

Best r

Bob

I THINK THE ANSWER IS QUITE SIMPLE!

The Whitby promoter wants to make loadsamoney.

The Brid promoter wants to cover costs.

Or is he paying his dj,s too much!!!

We the soul following public just want a great time getting vfm at one or the other or both!!

ROY

[Chalky]

do we have to turn this into another slagging off of certain promoters. People have choice, go or stay away. Both are popular events and no one knows what the overheads are at either.

[Guest southpaw]

do we have to turn this into another slagging off of certain promoters. People have choice, go or stay away. Both are popular events and no one knows what the overheads are at either.

well said mate

[ImberBoy]

well said mate

Here here

[NEV]

do we have to turn this into another slagging off of certain promoters. People have choice, go or stay away. Both are popular events and no one knows what the overheads are at either.

Only answering Bobs question Chalks

[Guest]

do we have to turn this into another slagging off of certain promoters. People have choice, go or stay away. Both are popular events and no one knows what the overheads are at either.

Well said Chalks .

Malc

[SOULCENTRAL]

Only answering Bobs question Chalks

Although a little tounge in cheek-likewise chalks

ROY

[NEV]

Although a little tounge in cheek-likewise chalks

ROY

I've attended both in the past ...won't be attending either this yr ...don't know either promotor on a personal level but i do know what is on offer and rather than slag either of em off i merely gave my answer based on my own experiences

[bri pinch]

I've attended both in the past ...won't be attending either this yr ...don't know either promotor on a personal level but i do know what is on offer and rather than slag either of em off i merely gave my answer based on my own experiences

GOOD DEFENCE NEV, NEARLY AS GOOD AS SWITZERLAND THIS ARVO

BRI PINCH

SUNDAY CHILLOUT@HORSE AND GROOM, 20TH JUNE, EAST LAITH GATE, DONCASTER.

[KevH]

I've attended both in the past ...won't be attending either this yr ...don't know either promotor on a personal level but i do know what is on offer and rather than slag either of em off i merely gave my answer based on my own experiences

If yer gonna be nice about it - i'm off.

[Guest Phil Armstrong]

I totally agree with Chalky nobody but the individual promoters know the costs involved and neither should they.

Phil

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Soul Over Easy

** NEW ** NORTHERN SOUL & MOTOWN NIGHT

DJ's: Carl Piper, Ian Gee, Smudge Smith, John Manship - (Classic Cleethorpes Set), Ted Massey

Mainly Oldies and Classic Floor Fillers, rare and not so rare.

Saturday 2nd October 2010

Winding Wheel, Chesterfield. S41 7SA www.soulovereasy.co.uk

[NEV]

I totally agree with Chalky nobody but the individual promoters know the costs involved and neither should they.

Phil

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Soul Over Easy

** NEW ** NORTHERN SOUL & MOTOWN NIGHT

DJ's: Carl Piper, Ian Gee, Smudge Smith, John Manship - (Classic Cleethorpes Set), Ted Massey

Mainly Oldies and Classic Floor Fillers, rare and not so rare.

Saturday 2nd October 2010

Winding Wheel, Chesterfield. S41 7SA www.soulovereasy.co.uk

How about we have a place on here where anyone who asks a question ,has to get clearance by the mod's and in turn all answers have to be scrutinised before posted

Ffs when is a discussion forum not a discussion forum

[Guest proudlove]

Don't know the answer to the question as I've been to neither venue.

But going to Bridlington for the first time,and profit or break even....................don't give a monkeys,We're going to have a Blast

Steve.

[Chalky]

How about we have a place on here where anyone who asks a question ,has to get clearance by the mod's and in turn all answers have to be scrutinised before posted

Ffs when is a discussion forum not a discussion forum

When it simply becomes a medium for slagging off a promoter all the time.

What I said was my own personal opinion, nothing to do with being a moderator. The topic was after just a few posts turning into a slagging off of one promoter and hailing the others as saviours of the peoples scene, that to me isn't a discussion.

[SOULCENTRAL]

When it simply becomes a medium for slagging off a promoter all the time.

What I said was my own personal opinion, nothing to do with being a moderator. The topic was after just a few posts turning into a slagging off of one promoter and hailing the others as saviours of the peoples scene, that to me isn't a discussion.

Chalky, Bob asked a quite genuine question and a few replies were offered. I do not recognise any of those replies as either slagging one promoter off or singing the praises of the other.

Unlike Nev(who is one of the many voting with their feet) i will probably attending both events this time around and i do not have an issue or friendship/favouritism with either promoter.

ROY

[Chalky]

Chalky, Bob asked a quite genuine question and a few replies were offered. I do not recognise any of those replies as either slagging one promoter off or singing the praises of the other.

Unlike Nev(who is one of the many voting with their feet) i will probably attending both events this time around and i do not have an issue or friendship/favouritism with either promoter.

ROY

I understand Bob asked a general question and nothing against that but it was IMO heading to a slagging off of one promoter with some of the comments made, with comments like one does it to make loadsa money and inferring that's all he does it for and that the other does it to simply cover their costs, I suppose any profit will go to charity?

[Maark]

This has probably been asked many times but I'm quite new back on the scene after a rest.

Why is Bridlington Weekender £20 and Whitby Weekender £35

Best r

Bob

Whitby is £30.95 according to the Goldsoul website.

[Jumpinjoan]

I understand Bob asked a general question and nothing against that but it was IMO heading to a slagging off of one promoter with some of the comments made, with comments like one does it to make loadsa money and inferring that's all he does it for and that the other does it to simply cover their costs, I suppose any profit will go to charity?

Not being funny Chalky but one of the promoters said it himself in a previous thread - he is in it as a BUSINESS.

And businesses are in it to make money are they not?

[Chalky]

Not being funny Chalky but one of the promoters said it himself in a previous thread - he is in it as a BUSINESS.

And businesses are in it to make money are they not?

not being funny either Joan, I don't know one promoter who runs a venue to make a loss....whether they are a business or not. I don't see any of these who are happy to simply cover costs donate all the profits to charity. Like I said this topic after just a few posts was beginning to turn into a slag off Kev Roberts topic......don't think we done that one before

There's plenty on here and on the wider scene who make a living out of the soul scene, I don't see them get a constant slagging off!

[Jumpinjoan]

not being funny either Joan, I don't know one promoter who runs a venue to make a loss....whether they are a business or not. I don't see any of these who are happy to simply cover costs donate all the profits to charity. Like I said this topic after just a few posts was beginning to turn into a slag off Kev Roberts topic......don't think we done that one before

There's plenty on here and on the wider scene who make a living out of the soul scene, I don't see them get a constant slagging off!

Of course promoters make money. No one expects anyone to run a venue at a loss. Do you really think there are people on here that think they should?

There is a difference between running a venue occasionally and running venues as a business. But maybe that's just me.

Big Bob - you certainly know what topics to start to get peoples attention

[Nige Brown]

And whats wrong with promoters making momey!!

Its seems a cardinal sinn on here if a promotor makes some money,, particulary certain promotors!

Are some people naive enough to seriously believe promotrers dont want to make any profit

I cant see either of the two venues mentioned stating on their publicity " We are a No Profit Making Buisness "

I would think 99% who attend both venues are just there to have a fantastic time wether it be Bridington or Whitby or BOTH EVEN!!

Most punters just want a boss weekend with no Soul Politics

Surey thats the most important thing!!

All this poster was asking was was the differnce if any between the two weekends ,,,,,,just MAYBE he meant,,,, musically,, faclities,,, record bars,, bar pices,,, food and drink available , how many rooms etc etc etc

Im sure BOTH weekends will be Great in their own ways and BOTH sets of Promotors who haved work so hard to make sure their vents are the Bizzo for their punters!

Nige B

[Guest]

Of course promoters make money. No one expects anyone to run a venue at a loss. Do you really think there are people on here that think they should?

There is a difference between running a venue occasionally and running venues as a business. But maybe that's just me.

Big Bob - you certainly know what topics to start to get peoples attention

Joan,

I didnt mean to cause any agro, just that ive seen the flyers for the two events both are stacked full of dj's run approax same length of time but quite a large difference in cost and thought it fair to ask.

Best r

bob

[Jumpinjoan]

Joan,

I didnt mean to cause any agro, just that ive seen the flyers for the two events both are stacked full of dj's run approax same length of time but quite a large difference in cost and thought it fair to ask.

Best r

bob

Of course it is a fair question. Just one that you will never get an answer to

That said, £20 and £35 is not a lot of money for a full weekend of soul, who ever the promoter is.

[Chalky]

Of course it is a fair question. Just one that you will never get an answer to

That said, £20 and £35 is not a lot of money for a full weekend of soul, who ever the promoter is.

It s bloody cheap IMHO. The soul scene have been a bunch of tight gits for years Tenner for an allnighter and still some moan. You wouldn't get a night out in a club for ten hours for a pound an hour. Bet it would cost double that in a top dance club? The cost to the average punter has hardly gone up for years, especially soul nights, we seem to want everything on the cheap.

Just had a google, Ministry Of Sound, £13 10.30 till 6.30 the cheapest, many other nights at £15 and £20. Would a soulie pay £20 for an allnighter?

[Guest proudlove]

It s bloody cheap IMHO. The soul scene have been a bunch of tight gits for years Tenner for an allnighter and still some moan. You wouldn't get a night out in a club for ten hours for a pound an hour. Bet it would cost double that in a top dance club? The cost to the average punter has hardly gone up for years, especially soul nights, we seem to want everything on the cheap.

Just had a google, Ministry Of Sound, £13 10.30 till 6.30 the cheapest, many other nights at £15 and £20. Would a soulie pay £20 for an allnighter?

100% agree.

[TOAD]

£20 ! its that much to get in Kings Hall on a NYE ?

[Chalky]

£20 ! its that much to get in Kings Hall on a NYE ?

that is still cheap for NYE, club scene would be £50+

[Guest Glawsters Best]

Ain't Whitby got the World famous Chippy Magpies

[TOAD]

yes chalky but i had a great FREE NYE NIGHTER this year With a TOP GUEST DJ

i think promoters work damm hard to give us value for money long may it continue, some are just ordinary guys and gals and it shows who deserves venue support imo

[Guest Mrs Simsy]

They're all different...

Cleethorpes is 59.00

Prestatyn is between 40.00 and 100.00 and the luxury Hilton one is 169.00!

Isn't Bridlington so cheap because you're just paying for the do as such & you have to locate & sort out your own B&B's etc?

[TOAD]

They're all different...

Cleethorpes is 59.00

Prestatyn is between 40.00 and 100.00 and the luxury Hilton one is 169.00!

Isn't Bridlington so cheap because you're just paying for the do as such & you have to locate & sort out your own B&B's etc?

err same as whitby then

[Guest Mrs Simsy]

err same as whitby then

Oh, in that case Bob...they're just all different!

[SOULCENTRAL]

I understand Bob asked a general question and nothing against that but it was IMO heading to a slagging off of one promoter with some of the comments made, with comments like one does it to make loadsa money and inferring that's all he does it for and that the other does it to simply cover their costs, I suppose any profit will go to charity?

Chalks, in no way did i infer that Mr Roberts only puts on an event to make money. However by his own admission on many occasions on this website he has openly stated that he is in the business of promoting soul events and businesses exist to make money.

I have no issues with what Mr Roberts does, or does not do, in the world of soul music and the various avenues in which he is involved in a business sense. Much of what he has done over the years for the soul scene and is currently doing has to be admired and applauded.

It is unfortunate that you as a moderator have chosen to assume that people are slagging off another member on this forum, by thier tounge in cheek reply to a general question, wether it was a personal opinion or not.

Dont see the very eloquent and very funny Mr Burton copping the same flack!.

regards ROY

[Keithw]

ive not been to either but if someone wants to give me a ticket to each

buy my beer and pies

take me to both

sort out a bed for the nights

long as "the alex arnt at home"

i will let you know which is best..................

[soul couple]

Not this old argument again?! We have only been to Whitby but many of our friends go to Brid and some go to both. Both are well attended and great value for money!!!!! We have always had a great weekend! Is is not a matter of supporting as many of these weekenders as possible? what would we do if all the promoters said they had had enough of all the backbiting and stopped organising such events we would all be moaning then!!!!!

If you don't like the price don't go!!!

Looking forward to Whitby and meeting up with old and new friends.

[Simsy]

Not this old argument again?! We have only been to Whitby but many of our friends go to Brid and some go to both. Both are well attended and great value for money!!!!! We have always had a great weekend! Is is not a matter of supporting as many of these weekenders as possible? what would we do if all the promoters said they had had enough of all the backbiting and stopped organising such events we would all be moaning then!!!!!

If you don't like the price don't go!!!

Looking forward to Whitby and meeting up with old and new friends.

Lighten up baby, this is a discussion forum ffs, 'backbiting'..

[TOAD]

keep on topic unless the first post was wind up

this bickering aint answering the question and is BORING

lock it !

[Little-stevie]

Not this old argument again?! We have only been to Whitby but many of our friends go to Brid and some go to both. Both are well attended and great value for money!!!!! We have always had a great weekend! Is is not a matter of supporting as many of these weekenders as possible? what would we do if all the promoters said they had had enough of all the backbiting and stopped organising such events we would all be moaning then!!!!!

If you don't like the price don't go!!!

Looking forward to Whitby and meeting up with old and new friends.

There are alternatives to all weekenders, its not a case of support weekenders or there is no place to go, thats what your post implies...

There is a difference of £15 for a full weekend, does anyone really really care??? would the difference make you choose one or the other????? letters on a postcard please...

[Steve G]

This has probably been asked many times but I'm quite new back on the scene after a rest.

Why is Bridlington Weekender £20 and Whitby Weekender £35

Best r

Bob

Who knows?

Who cares?

Both seem to be very good value for money at these prices.

As far as I know this isnt www.gocomparesoulweekenderscomparethemeerkats.com

Woahh £15 - four beers and a pie!!!!

Edited June 16, 2010 by Steve G

[NEV]

not being funny either Joan, I don't know one promoter who runs a venue to make a loss....whether they are a business or not. I don't see any of these who are happy to simply cover costs donate all the profits to charity. Like I said this topic after just a few posts was beginning to turn into a slag off Kev Roberts topic......don't think we done that one before

There's plenty on here and on the wider scene who make a living out of the soul scene, I don't see them get a constant slagging off!

Where did anyone mention or slag off Kev Roberts Chalky?

In trying to answer Bobs question regarding why one is £20 and t'other is £35 i made a comment as to why the price differs and as far as im concerned i'll wager i'm not far off the beaten track.

I have no prob with Kev personally ,would have no prob shaking his hand ,having a conversation, or having a pint with him,so why you put two and two together and reach 10 is all about you jumping the gun ....and because you though you saw where this was leading,due to the nature of it being a provocative question.

Only weekend i've attended this yr was Morecambe North Lancs festival....it was all free ..nobody made any money (exept for the proprietors of the venue in revenue from alcohol and the hoteliers and guest houses),everyone had a great time and we'll all do it again next yr....being passionate about soul doesn't have to come with a hefty price tag

Political correctness gone mad..reminds me of why i don't bother with working mens clubs ..i just don't get committee men

[soul couple]

Fair point!! - Whitby is a great venue with a superb dance floor. You will be hard pressed to find anyone who does not enjoy themselves.

As for Brid as I said we have not been to the weekenders but we have visited the Spa and the venue is first class and looking at the previous photos and feedbacks soulies have a really great weekend.

What I will say is that Whitby is a much nicer town!! You pays your money and you takes your chances!!

[Anais nin Carms]

This has probably been asked many times but I'm quite new back on the scene after a rest.

Why is Bridlington Weekender £20 and Whitby Weekender £35

Best r

Bob

Dead simple Bob ... it's all in the accounts , Overheads could be greater for one than the other thus resulting in higher admittance fee to recover costs to achieve profit... simpleeeeeeees

I don't believe any promotor putting on a massive event would operate a price structure to only break even but I stand corrected if anyone is prepared to show us their balance sheet

You pays your money and make your choice , I myself think both are excellent value for money you get a full weekends entertainment now how many hours is that ...eeem calc at the ready divide £30.00 by the hours ...thats 4 hours afternoon x2 = 8 andd 6 hours at night x 2 = 12 a total of 20 hours for 30 quid ?eeeeeem thats pretty cheap .... go to bed carmen !

[TOAD]

was that aimed at me ?

i tell you what its sad when a topic starts and it ends up a slagging match or someone gets comments usually unfounded directed at them or even slyly promoting there choice of venue

it was a stupid first post anyway answered by....TWO DIFFERANT PROMOTERS..simple yes ?

lets have constructive posts

[paultp]

This has probably been asked many times but I'm quite new back on the scene after a rest.

Why is Bridlington Weekender £20 and Whitby Weekender £35

Best r

Bob

What a disingenuous question!

I suspect you type with one hand because the other is holding a very large wooden spoon.

People promoting weekenders are entitled to charge whatever they like, if you think the ticket price is too much to pay: don't go. Simple as that.