Guest Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 How on earth did this fantastic Mod / Boogaloo / Jazz masterpiece end up being accepted on the Soul Scene ? Who was responsible ? Who played it out first ? and where ? Just a couple of questions from me Totally fantastic record IMO !
Mark B Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 How on earth did this fantastic Mod / Boogaloo / Jazz masterpiece end up being accepted on the Soul Scene ? Who was responsible ? Who played it out first ? and where ? Just a couple of questions from me Totally fantastic record IMO ! Karl rhodes put us onto it while it wa scovered up so might have been him played at lowton in the DDA room mark
Guest Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Karl rhodes put us onto it while it wa scovered up so might have been him played at lowton in the DDA room mark Right - Karl Rhodes at the DDA it is then. Fair play. I love that tune ! Just so cool, and Its great to see different things getting popular !
KevH Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Don't quote me on this.. ,but i think this has been around/known for quite a while.A very good friend of mine pulled this out his box at a record playing session,(i didn't know he had it),and said he'd had it since the Wigan days.
John Elias Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Right - Karl Rhodes at the DDA it is then. Fair play. I love that tune ! Just so cool, and Its great to see different things getting popular ! mossy do you realise I have been playing this at Mccleans or were you out havin a fag and where's that mp3 you were gonna send me gareth bach
Guest Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 mossy do you realise I have been playing this at Mccleans or were you out havin a fag and where's that mp3 you were gonna send me gareth bach that's where I heard it John And have been digging around for a copy since - I realised it was pretty popular by the prices it was fetching. I secured a copy of his original LP with "its gonna rain" on it for a fantastic price (15 quid) which I am more than happy with. You know me John, 45s and LPs as long as they are original !!
NEV Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 (edited) that's where I heard it John And have been digging around for a copy since - I realised it was pretty popular by the prices it was fetching. I secured a copy of his original LP with "its gonna rain" on it for a fantastic price (15 quid) which I am more than happy with. You know me John, 45s and LPs as long as they are original !! Phil Kowalski had a copy on his recent list for about £200 ,don't think it sold ?? here you go https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/127266-best-list-ever-sounds-from-the-batcave/page__p__1294308__hl__june%20gardner__fromsearch__1entry1294308 Edited May 29, 2010 by NEV
Guest Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Phil Kowalski had a copy on his recent list for about £200 ,don't think it sold ?? Cheers Nev But I am more than happy to settle for this on his "Bustin out" LP I would have paid out for the 45 - but now Ive got the LP I will spend this months record tokens on other bits.
John Elias Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Cheers Nev But I am more than happy to settle for this on his "Bustin out" LP I would have paid out for the 45 - but now Ive got the LP I will spend this months record tokens on other bits. gentlemen june gardner = cross dresser??
NEV Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 (edited) Cheers Nev But I am more than happy to settle for this on his "Bustin out" LP I would have paid out for the 45 - but now Ive got the LP I will spend this months record tokens on other bits. Inclined to agree Mossy ...lp's sit fine with me as long as original only prob dj'n with lp's is ,they get a bit tricky to cue in when you've had a few Edited May 29, 2010 by NEV
Mark B Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Inclined to agree Mossy ...lp's sit fine with me as long as original only prob dj'n with lp's is ,they get a bit tricky to cue in when you've had a few Noticed that at Morecambe mark
John Elias Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Inclined to agree Mossy ...lp's sit fine with me as long as original only prob dj'n with lp's is ,they get a bit tricky to cue in when you've had a few even trickier to fit in your 45's box
NEV Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Noticed that at Morecambe mark Hope your not referring to times Brett switched my record off while cueing his in I wish i had a pound for everytime someone has done that while double decking eh P.s think i forgot to switch to 33 when put a lp on or was it vice versa?? Was good of you to make the trip over Mark
Mark B Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 Hope your not referring to times Brett switched my record off while cueing his in I wish i had a pound for everytime someone has done that while double decking eh P.s think i forgot to switch to 33 when put a lp on or was it vice versa?? Was good of you to make the trip over Mark My pleasure Nev had an enjoyable day topped off with listening to yourself and brett spin some tunes. mark
Alan T Posted May 29, 2010 Posted May 29, 2010 (edited) Got a Mint- copy here if anybody wants it. Any sensible offer gets it or trade for a 70s record. Now Sold Edited June 4, 2010 by alan t
Guest son of stan Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) How much does it go for then? And is it being played out? (I never go out). Got one off Craig Moerer for about $20 two or three years ago after hearing it on an excellent Soul Jazz New Orleans comp that I bought for a girlfriend. It's a version of the b-side of, "I Got You Babe" by Sonny and Cher (or is it the other way round?) Think it was used in a tv advert in Australia a few year back.. Edited May 31, 2010 by son of stan
Guest Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) Phil Kowalski had a copy on his recent list for about £200 ,don't think it sold ?? here you go https://www.soul-sour...1entry1294308 I'd be amazed if it did sell with that extra zero stuck on the end of the price . Don't get this record to be honest, it's a good track but that's it....it's not stand-out or better than all the thousands of other good records that are around. First time I heard it was at Lifeline being played covered up, might have been Bidds a week or two before but my memory is useless! Didn't recognise it but I was given the record to look at uncovered, knew I had it somewhere and made a note to dig it out and Mace very kindly bought it off me when I did, a most generous 50p . Must have been 2 years ago now, thought this 45 had been played/over-played/forgotten in those two years but no such luck for me . Before I get torn to shreds by everyone who loves it......it's just my opinion and I'm allowed to express it, I'm sure I'll be in the minority on this one but it's basically a £20 record that a group of DJs all had and played covered up whilst selling spares at prices well over the odds. Edited May 31, 2010 by Guest
Guest Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 I'd be amazed if it did sell with that extra zero stuck on the end of the price ' />. Don't get this record to be honest, it's a good track but that's it....it's not stand-out or better than all the thousands of other good records that are around.First time I heard it was at Lifeline being played covered up, might have been Bidds a week or two before but my memory is useless! Didn't recognise it but I was given the record to look at uncovered, knew I had it somewhere and made a note to dig it out and Mace very kindly bought it off me when I did, a most generous 50p ' />. Must have been 2 years ago now, thought this 45 had been played/over-played/forgotten in those two years but no such luck for me ' />. Before I get torn to shreds by everyone who loves it......it's just my opinion and I'm allowed to express it, I'm sure I'll be in the minority on this one but it's basically a £20 record that a group of DJs all had and played covered up whilst selling spares at prices well over the odds. I would have paid 60 quid to 80 quid for it on 45 - I missed one one e bay a couple of months ago - it went for around 50 quid. As I mentioned - I love the record. Its a great Jazz tune and its great so see odd bits n bobs getting popular IMO. Its another one you could have got a few years ago for next to nothing when it was generally unknown IMO. Thats just record collecting again - now the cats out the bag - it seems that it has a cult following. I know what you mean - there are many great Soul / Jazz instrumentals out there that could cut it on the floor which are as good as "Its gonna rain" . I guess its another style to keep a closer eye on ? Cheers
Guest Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 A few notes from recordmania regarding Gentleman June Gardener and The LP Bustin Out promotional copy with white EmArcy label Funky-stinky New Orleans instrumental stuffs by a legendary drummer. Gentleman June Gardner is one of the acclaimed New Orleans drummers. The most famous job was a sort of Lee Dorsey's recordings, such as "Get Out Of My Life Woman" and "Working In A Coalmine". His another celebrated work would be a drummer of Sam Cooke's road band (1960-1964). This album, released in 1966, contains his fine leader sessions, compiled from his various recordings for local labels (including Hot Line label in New Orleans), maybe arranged/produced by legendary Wardell Quezergue. The top-notch smash hit "It's Gonna Rain" and all other tunes are covered with lazy New-Orleans rhythm, but also hot taste. Dirty but steady brass riffs are also attractive. Especially all tunes on the Side-B are very impressive. Although it's mysterious that these recordings were released by EmArcy label, this LP holds nice funky instrumentals. Strictly Personal Rating (to what extent I could enjoy this album) 8 out of 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Track Listing SIDE-A A-1 99 Plus 1 (W. Quezergue) 2:17 A-2 Last Night (Axton - Smith - Newman - Moman) 2:11 A-3 Hammerhead (W. Quezergue) 2:16 A-4 One Mint Julep (R. Toombs) 2:51 A-5 Hot Seat (W. Quezergue) 2:42 A-6 Mustard Greens (A. Gardner) 2:17 SIDE-B B-1 It's Gonna Rain (S. Bono) 2:12 B-2 Later Baby (W. Quezergue) 2:49 B-3 Hang On Sloopy (B. Russell - W. Farrell) 2:42 B-4 Yesterday (J. Lennon - P. McCartney) 3:19 B-5 The Joker (L. Bricusse - A. Newley) 2:26
Jumpinjoan Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 I'd be amazed if it did sell with that extra zero stuck on the end of the price . Don't get this record to be honest, it's a good track but that's it....it's not stand-out or better than all the thousands of other good records that are around. First time I heard it was at Lifeline being played covered up, might have been Bidds a week or two before but my memory is useless! Didn't recognise it but I was given the record to look at uncovered, knew I had it somewhere and made a note to dig it out and Mace very kindly bought it off me when I did, a most generous 50p . Must have been 2 years ago now, thought this 45 had been played/over-played/forgotten in those two years but no such luck for me . Before I get torn to shreds by everyone who loves it......it's just my opinion and I'm allowed to express it, I'm sure I'll be in the minority on this one but it's basically a £20 record that a group of DJs all had and played covered up whilst selling spares at prices well over the odds. You are not alone Adam. Although I was on the thread they had about this a few months ago Some like it, others think it is pants (like me)
Realpeoplesmusic Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 You are not alone Adam. Although I was on the thread they had about this a few months ago Some like it, others think it is pants (like me) I think it's a great tune, a real nice mod jazz dancer. It sounds great played out loud + if a dj can drop it in at the right time it really does hit the spot I payed £70 for mine which i think is about right.
Jumpinjoan Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 I think it's a great tune, a real nice mod jazz dancer. It sounds great played out loud + if a dj can drop it in at the right time it really does hit the spot I payed £70 for mine which i think is about right. Like I said, some like it others don't. Nothing wrong with that, it is the way of the world.
John Elias Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 personally I wouldn't come on here specificly to slag a record off,if I doesn't do it for me I just mind my own business,that's just my way I suppose,for example I didn't like some of the tunes played in the main room at radcliffe on Sunday but I won't say who played 'em cos it's down to personal taste,thankyou.
Jumpinjoan Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 personally I wouldn't come on here specificly to slag a record off,if I doesn't do it for me I just mind my own business,that's just my way I suppose,for example I didn't like some of the tunes played in the main room at radcliffe on Sunday but I won't say who played 'em cos it's down to personal taste,thankyou. For the record I didn't "come on here specifically to slag a record off" the thread was already here and I just said I didn't like it. Are you saying you can only post if you like something? I would never come on here slagging anybody for playing anything. I am with you, some of the records didn't do it for me at Radcliffe either but I am one person in a room full of people and if the dance floor is busy it is job done in my book.
Guest Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 I think it's a great tune, a real nice mod jazz dancer. It sounds great played out loud + if a dj can drop it in at the right time it really does hit the spot I payed £70 for mine which i think is about right. I love Jazzy dance things like G davis and R tyler - hold on, help is on the way - Freddie Hubbards - prodical son Ray bryant - up above the rock etc..... etc....... etc. Big fan of hammond classics - Bro Jack, Jimmy S, also funky Jazz, banging latin etc ....etc Definatley down to my Mod roots but I have loved Jazz and 60s Soul since I was in my teens. Gentleman June ticks all the boxes for me, and like I mentioned - Just great to see a sound like this being played on the soul scene. I can see "its gonna rain" may not be to everyones taste - maybe a bit too jazzy for a few? no worrys ! M
Weingarden Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Fairly certain I have a clean spare of this if anyone still needs one. Email me offlist with an offer that takes into account the discussion above.... Matt finewine@wfmu.org
Realpeoplesmusic Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 Like I said, some like it others don't. Nothing wrong with that, it is the way of the world. You're right Joan everyone has different tastes and thats the way it should be!
Realpeoplesmusic Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) I love Jazzy dance things like G davis and R tyler - hold on, help is on the way - Freddie Hubbards - prodical son Ray bryant - up above the rock etc..... etc....... etc. Big fan of hammond classics - Bro Jack, Jimmy S, also funky Jazz, banging latin etc ....etc Definatley down to my Mod roots but I have loved Jazz and 60s Soul since I was in my teens. Gentleman June ticks all the boxes for me, and like I mentioned - Just great to see a sound like this being played on the soul scene. I can see "its gonna rain" may not be to everyones taste - maybe a bit too jazzy for a few? no worrys ! M I've got some wicked mod jazz sleazy records that I sometimes wonder about playing out Ernie Feilds - Workin Out Noble Watts -Teen Scene Willis Jackson - Swimming Home baby Billy Hawkes - Oh Baby (always gets a spin, sheer class) also just waiting for a mental latin version of wade in the water, it really will sound awesome in a club, it's not very well known and extremely hard to get your hands on. It Will be getting an airing in a main room in August, wahey!!! Edited June 1, 2010 by callum_64
Guest Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 personally I wouldn't come on here specificly to slag a record off,if I doesn't do it for me I just mind my own business,that's just my way I suppose,for example I didn't like some of the tunes played in the main room at radcliffe on Sunday but I won't say who played 'em cos it's down to personal taste,thankyou. Assume this is regarding my earlier post but I never slagged the record off, what my post said was that I don't get the interest in the record.....it's good...but no better than the thousands of other good records out there no slagging there or have I managed to offend by saying I like a record but don't think it's brilliant?? The only dig I had in that post was that it was covered up by several people and sold covered at very inflated prices which is IMO a little disrespectful to the people you sell it to, similar thing happened with Flamingos - Since My Baby Put Me Down being sold covered (as the Volumes??) for £75-£100 when it was everywhere for £10-£20 and more recently there's a cover up that is on gemm/manship/moerer/everywhere for less than a tenner and yet gets sold at venues and on lists for £100. No harm in people making themselves a few pound by buying copies to sell on etc but when you're charging decent money for an easily available £10er it kind of leaves a bad taste.
Guest Posted June 3, 2010 Posted June 3, 2010 Assume this is regarding my earlier post but I never slagged the record off, what my post said was that I don't get the interest in the record.....it's good...but no better than the thousands of other good records out there no slagging there or have I managed to offend by saying I like a record but don't think it's brilliant?? The only dig I had in that post was that it was covered up by several people and sold covered at very inflated prices which is IMO a little disrespectful to the people you sell it to, similar thing happened with Flamingos - Since My Baby Put Me Down being sold covered (as the Volumes??) for £75-£100 when it was everywhere for £10-£20 and more recently there's a cover up that is on gemm/manship/moerer/everywhere for less than a tenner and yet gets sold at venues and on lists for £100. No harm in people making themselves a few pound by buying copies to sell on etc but when you're charging decent money for an easily available £10er it kind of leaves a bad taste. Good disscussion and information regarding vinyl / availability / price / and expecially dealers is always great. Now.............whats this recent cover up that I can get for a tenner !!!! Please PM me with an mp3 and a title !!
Mace Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 knew I had it somewhere and made a note to dig it out and Mace very kindly bought it off me when I did, a most generous 50p . Must have been 2 years ago now I did indeed, but pretty sure I only gave you 20p and a sloppy kiss Have had a few copies over the last 2 years, in fact I sold my last one to Steve Hiscock just a month or so ago for £40 or thereabouts.
Guest Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I did indeed, but pretty sure I only gave you 20p and a sloppy kiss :yes: Have had a few copies over the last 2 years, in fact I sold my last one to Steve Hiscock just a month or so ago for £40 or thereabouts. I thought these mod records getting played on the soul scene might have somthing to do with you
Mace Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 I thought these mod records getting played on the soul scene might have somthing to do with you Not at all mate, was deffo Karl Rhodes who first played it on the soul scene as far as I'm aware. Seem to recall him filling the floor with it at Lifeline and Middleton
Guest Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) Not at all mate, was deffo Karl Rhodes who first played it on the soul scene as far as I'm aware. Seem to recall him filling the floor with it at Lifeline and Middleton bloody good on him then !!! Might see ya Saturday mate ! I got a 50th birthday party to go to first - but I will try and get to see ya as you are making a rare appearance up these hills Its been a while Edited June 4, 2010 by mossy
Mace Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 bloody good on him then !!! Might see ya Saturday mate ! I got a 50th birthday party to go to first - but I will try and get to see ya as you are making a rare appearance up these hills Its been a while Be good to see you after all these years pal
Corbett80 Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 This has been around on the mod scene for years, has been played on and off in London particularly.
Guest Posted June 4, 2010 Posted June 4, 2010 This has been around on the mod scene for years, has been played on and off in London particularly. I imagined it would have been. I was on the Mod scene and lived in London from the 80s to the mid 90s but I can't remember Gentleman June from that period. Not to say that no one played it back then - But its one great Mod tune that has escaped me until recently.
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