dthedrug Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 :hatsoff2:Hi All... If you dont no this record or even if you do, looking at Johnnny Manships Auction, there it is easy one of the Rare UK records and ellusive, well i would say near on impossible to buy? The reason for my post is not to promote Johnn y Boys list, but just to point out this jem that has all the hallmarks of LONDONS In Crowd in the 6ts especially the sound. The sound typifies the FLAMINGO, give it a listen as this is truely one of the best examples of a MOD Soul Record I can think of, Value wise I aint got a clue but Just as rare as top UK rare northern..A truely brilliant 2 sider:ph34r:DAVE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest john s Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Brilliant 45, agreed! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 :hatsoff2:Hi All... If you dont no this record or even if you do, looking at Johnnny Manships Auction, there it is easy one of the Rare UK records and ellusive, well i would say near on impossible to buy? You're having a laugh Dave, there's loads of these turn up on Ebay UK reggae, I stopped buying them when nobody would take them off me. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiggyflat Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 (edited) Is this the same R&B Label who released Georgie Fames first 2 discs, Orange Street being one of them. Think that label was white with blue writing.Will have to dig my copies out.Think it stands for Rita and Benny the labels owners.I think most ska and reggae can be found cheaply with some notable exceptions.All the records seem to be knackered although there are copies of mint Guns Of Navarone circulating and some mint stuff on UK Bread.LP's are more expensive (forgetting the Tighten Ups etc which must have sold by the bucketload) I seem to find uk Island ska stuff all at reasonable prices and I see Carnival stuff all the time...Sugar n Dandy.I find it's the 69/70 stuff thats more expensive and harder to get. Edited May 29, 2010 by wiggyflat Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
michael-j Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Is this the same R&B Label who released Georgie Fames first 2 discs, Orange Street being one of them. Think that label was white with blue writing.Will have to dig my copies out.Think it stands for Rita and Benny the labels owners. it is yes, had several designs, blue with silver writing or red with black writing are the most common colours. there's also an unrelated Jamaican 'R&B' label, white with a nice red and black design, which was one of Chris Blackwell's first labels, and i think there's another unrelated US 'R&B' label too Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Is this the same R&B Label who released Georgie Fames first 2 discs, Orange Street being one of them. Think that label was white with blue writing.Will have to dig my copies out.Think it stands for Rita and Benny the labels owners.I think most ska and reggae can be found cheaply with some notable exceptions.All the records seem to be knackered although there are copies of mint Guns Of Navarone circulating and some mint stuff on UK Bread.LP's are more expensive (forgetting the Tighten Ups etc which must have sold by the bucketload) I seem to find uk Island ska stuff all at reasonable prices and I see Carnival stuff all the time...Sugar n Dandy.I find it's the 69/70 stuff thats more expensive and harder to get. An overview of the UK reggae collecting scene in 3 lines, brilliant Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Is this the same R&B Label who released Georgie Fames first 2 discs, Orange Street being one of them. Think that label was white with blue writing.Will have to dig my copies out.Think it stands for Rita and Benny the labels owners.I think most ska and reggae can be found cheaply with some notable exceptions.All the records seem to be knackered although there are copies of mint Guns Of Navarone circulating and some mint stuff on UK Bread.LP's are more expensive (forgetting the Tighten Ups etc which must have sold by the bucketload) I seem to find uk Island ska stuff all at reasonable prices and I see Carnival stuff all the time...Sugar n Dandy.I find it's the 69/70 stuff thats more expensive and harder to get. R & B was owned by Rita & Benny King (aka Isen/Izen) in Stamford Hill. When they shut down in the 80's, they released all back stock onto the market, hence 90% of r&b label records (the black ones) are in great condition. A lot of reggae lp's are cheap. I've bought about a dozen this last week all under £25. There's loads of exceptions though: Big Shot, Bamboo, UK Studio One, UK Coxsone etc. It's the same with every type of collecting; some records are hard to find, others are easy, regardless of date. Theres loads of great, cheap ska on Blue beat and Island. Theres loads of expensive hgreat ska there too though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest theoriginator56 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 You're having a laugh Dave, there's loads of these turn up on Ebay UK reggae, I stopped buying them when nobody would take them off me. yep sold my copy on ebay last year vg condition. got 15 kwid for it. good record though. rare know. (kim) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiggyflat Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 (edited) R & B was owned by Rita & Benny King (aka Isen/Izen) in Stamford Hill. When they shut down in the 80's, they released all back stock onto the market, hence 90% of r&b label records (the black ones) are in great condition. A lot of reggae lp's are cheap. I've bought about a dozen this last week all under £25. There's loads of exceptions though: Big Shot, Bamboo, UK Studio One, UK Coxsone etc. It's the same with every type of collecting; some records are hard to find, others are easy, regardless of date. Theres loads of great, cheap ska on Blue beat and Island. Theres loads of expensive hgreat ska there too though. From my experience of crate digging and the ones I mostly see. Studio one.............Puppet On A String must have been popular or overpressed,Bamboo keep coming across Rainy Night In Georgia.Big Shot is Judge Dread.Blue Beat is Al Capone in a myriad of colours nearly as many as The Showstoppers on Beacon!!.Ive got about 150 Blue Beats but Ive stopped buying them because I dont know what ive got.The Coxone popular one seems to be Ram Jam (cant remember the other side).The Pama popular one is Pat Kelly How Long Does It Take. Doctor Bird..Lady With The Red Dress On.The Carnival one is Sugar n Dandy What A Life. The Island one is The Vikings Hallelujiah and The Tennors Ride Your Donkey.....Im not going to go into Trojan although the early full orange label are harder ones...Never see Ska Beats or Grape that much and the Dice one I usually see is Little Schoolgirl (or is that Starlite?).on an unrelated note a good hit was in a shop with mint copies of Rumblers-Soulful Jerk on UK King. They were that mint that the flimsy paper sleeve was hard to take off.Went in week after week and paid a tenner each.Must have bought 5 copies.This place had the mint Guns Of Navarones as well.Is there anything else decent on UK King apart from River Keep Movin/Bitter into Sweet and Jackie Opal? (keep buying blind recent duffers are The Rocomars and some Irish showband although I have a Sam And Dave LP minus the cover).. Edited May 29, 2010 by wiggyflat Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 From my experience of crate digging and the ones I mostly see. Studio one.............Puppet On A String must have been popular or overpressed,Bamboo keep coming across Rainy Night In Georgia.Big Shot is Judge Dread.Blue Beat is Al Capone in a myriad of colours nearly as many as The Showstoppers on Beacon!!.Ive got about 150 Blue Beats but Ive stopped buying them because I dont know what ive got.The Coxone popular one seems to be Ram Jam (cant remember the other side).The Pama popular one is Pat Kelly How Long Does It Take. Doctor Bird..Lady With The Red Dress On.The Carnival one is Sugar n Dandy What A Life. The Island one is The Vikings Hallelujiah and The Tennors Ride Your Donkey.....Im not going to go into Trojan although the early full orange label are harder ones...Never see Ska Beats or Grape that much and the Dice one I usually see is Little Schoolgirl (or is that Starlite?).on an unrelated note a good hit was in a shop with mint copies of Rumblers-Soulful Jerk on UK King. They were that mint that the flimsy paper sleeve was hard to take off.Went in week after week and paid a tenner each.Must have bought 5 copies.This place had the mint Guns Of Navarones as well.Is there anything else decent on UK King apart from River Keep Movin/Bitter into Sweet and Jackie Opal? (keep buying blind recent duffers are The Rocomars and some Irish showband although I have a Sam And Dave LP minus the cover).. I'm on about LP's not 45's: but as for singles, you're right about those. Studio One's commonest, Puppet on a string, Fatty Fatty, Baby (Heptones) Cosxone: Cool Spoon 'yakkety yak', Ram Jam, Get ready it's rocksteady, couple of others. Doctor Bird; Joe White - every night, gaylads as mentioned, Phoenix city etc. Big Shot - well all of Judge Dreads records charted so they're as common as Sweet records. Pat kelly on Gas sold over 40,000 copies. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest john s Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Is there anything else decent on UK King apart from River Keep Movin/Bitter into Sweet and Jackie Opal? A few good mod/r'n'b/freakbeat 45s - Gavin Hamilton / Jason Deane / Guess Who / Afex / Tuesday's Children / Alexis Korner are all decent, Transatlantics I haven't heard, and I think there's a couple of ska bits. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 (edited) king sam and Dave you aint no big thing...diferant mix to the usa rouleete jackie opel cry me a river both should be in refosoul Edited May 29, 2010 by TOAD Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiggyflat Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 A few good mod/r'n'b/freakbeat 45s - Gavin Hamilton / Jason Deane / Guess Who / Afex / Tuesday's Children / Alexis Korner are all decent, Transatlantics I haven't heard, and I think there's a couple of ska bits. Funnily enough Got Wont Be The Same..Gavin Hamilton (I spoke about why cant there be more love on another thread),Jason Deane-Aint Got No Love,got The Guess Whos-Its My Pride,Afex-Shes Got The Time (Got That as well),Tuesdays Children-Strange Light From The East...............not got the Alexis Korner or Transatlantics though.Ah.........just remembered the Sovereigns-Bring Me Home Love and the Tea Set-Join The Tea Set!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
dthedrug Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share Posted May 30, 2010 You're having a laugh Dave, there's loads of these turn up on Ebay UK reggae, I stopped buying them when nobody would take them off me. :hatsoff2:Hi Pete...AVIN A GIGGLE! Not me I no that you have had some great records, and sell cheap, especialy Rare DEMOS that have elluded me? But to state you have seen loads on E-bay is a bit of "pork pie" how many is loads? or should it read Loads = How many? I have had 3 copys in all my junking for rare dustys days. also I am stateing that I recomend this recored as one of the best examples of MOD 2 sides are typical of the Flamingo, SIDE 2 is what a MOD would call The BLUE - BEAT, I still recomend it to collectors and as for value "I dont no!" and wont say as TED will be on my back, lets see what Johnny M gets for it! and I bet he would like loads or maybe not as it would not be RARE,,,TE HE TITTER TITTER, " On your Head Sunny Boy":ph34r:DAVE X Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Is this the same R&B Label who released Georgie Fames first 2 discs, Orange Street being one of them. The backing musicians on both sides of the Ronnie Gordon 45 are, indeed, the very same Georgie Fame and the Blue Flames... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 :hatsoff2:Hi Pete...AVIN A GIGGLE! Not me I no that you have had some great records, and sell cheap, especialy Rare DEMOS that have elluded me? But to state you have seen loads on E-bay is a bit of "pork pie" how many is loads? or should it read Loads = How many? Loads Dave. A dozen maybe. I told you, I don't even look anymore. Just cos you ain't seen em doesn't mean nobody else has. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 A couple of good tracvks on black label King are June Adams - River keep moving, and The Vogues verskon of Magic Town. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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