Strong Love - By Spencer Davis Group

[Ljblanken]

just wondering if strong love was a cover. if so, who did the original? thanks!

[Dave Pinch]

malibu`s on sureshot:thumbsup:

dave

[Ljblanken]

malibu`s on sureshot:thumbsup:

dave

awesome, thanks!

[Souljer6]

The b side "This Hammer" is also a cover. Old US folksong. Some would say the better side. Played in the orig Wheel era

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

The b side "This Hammer" is also a cover.

...It's not a cover - it's a revival. There's a big difference.

Unlike the A side, which most definitely was a cover. And a very good one at that....

A cover can only be called a cover if it comes out at the same time as, or within a matter of weeks of, the original. For example, the Moody Blues' 'Go Now' - recorded a matter of weeks after Bessie Banks' inferior original - is a cover, whereas Soft Cell's 'Tainted Love' - recorded 15 years after Gloria Jones - is a revival.

Pedantic, I know, but accurate nonetheless!

[Souljer6]

...It's not a cover - it's a revival. There's a big difference.

Unlike the A side, which most definitely was a cover. And a very good one at that....

A cover can only be called a cover if it comes out at the same time as, or within a matter of weeks of, the original. For example, the Moody Blues' 'Go Now' - recorded a matter of weeks after Bessie Banks' inferior original - is a cover, whereas Soft Cell's 'Tainted Love' - recorded 15 years after Gloria Jones - is a revival.

Pedantic, I know, but accurate nonetheless!

OK but Bessie Banks' "inferior" original? You've surely got a case of typing dyslexia despite being the font which I readily acknowledge you are. How can Denny Laine have trumped Bessie? It's an almost note for note copy with a weaker vocal; is'nt it ??????????????

[Godzilla]

Oh-oh - here we go again. About 100 pages of all out war last time we did this topic Nice one Tone!

Richard (Chorleysoul) - if you're reading this can we just skip straight to the making up bit

[De-to]

malibu`s on sureshot:thumbsup:

dave

here is the merrybus,

[Ady Croasdell]

Would the Malibus have been a mod play in the UK at all or was it just the group picking it up?

[Tony Smith]

Wasn't their first Fontana 45 a Duke cover ,Soul Sisters?, haven't got the relevant info at hand, but having a residency at the Twisted Wheel would've put them in contact with a lot of obscure sounds to pick from.

Edited May 15, 2010 by Tony Smith

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

Would the Malibus have been a mod play in the UK at all or was it just the group picking it up?

Brian Peters told me that was played at the Scene as a new release - presumably Guy Stevens guided them towards it.

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

Wasn't their first Fontana 45 a Duke cover ,Soul Sisters?, haven't got the relevant info at hand, but having a residency at the Twisted Wheel would've put them in contact with a lot of obscure sounds to pick from.

Yes, Tone, they did 'I Can't Stand It', too.

Again, I think the connection is Guy Stevens, rather than the Wheel. SDG were actually signed to Island even though their records came out on Fontana. I'm sure they swung by Guy's office, in the same building, every so often for a few 'ideas'!

And now I'm going to commit further sacrilege in the eyes of some on here by saying that I think their version of "Every Little Bit Hurts" is, at very least, as good as Brenda Holloway's

Never judge a record by its' colour...

[Guest]

Yes, Tone, they did 'I Can't Stand It', too.

Again, I think the connection is Guy Stevens, rather than the Wheel. SDG were actually signed to Island even though their records came out on Fontana. I'm sure they swung by Guy's office, in the same building, every so often for a few 'ideas'!

And now I'm going to commit further sacrilege in the eyes of some on here by saying that I think their version of "Every Little Bit Hurts" is, at very least, as good as Brenda Holloway's

Never judge a record by its' colour...

The Spencer Davis Group's second album contained creditable versions of Don Covay's "Please Do Something " , Ivory Joe Hunter's " Since I Met You Baby " , Curtis Mayfileld's " You Must Believe Me " , and Bobby Parker's " Watch Your

Step "

The album also contained their version of " I Washed My Hands In Muddy Water " , which was played at The Wheel .

Malc Burton

Edited May 16, 2010 by Malc Burton

[Dean Rudland]

Brian Peters told me that was played at the Scene as a new release - presumably Guy Stevens guided them towards it.

It was also a record that was in Roger Eagle's collection.

[Dean Rudland]

The Spencer Davis Group's second album contained creditable versions of Don Covay's "Please Do Something " , Ivory Joe Hunter's " Since I Met You Baby " , Curtis Mayfileld's " You Must Believe Me " , and Bobby Parker's " Watch Your

Step "

The album also contained their version of " I Washed My Hands In Muddy Water " , which was played at The Wheel .

Malc Burton

And also one of my absolutely favourite British soul covers, Garnet Mimm's 'Look Away'. Stevie's voice is just amazing on this.

[bri phill]

I'm sure Guy Stevens would have had a great influence on the group releasing this track with the Chris Blackwell connection.

He also had a massive influence on a lot of the material released by the early British rhythm & blues groups with is knowledge and collection.

I know Roger Eagle would have had The Malibu's because he received all the new releases on Duke,Backbeat,Sureshot,Peacock,Stax and a few other labels including Motown up until

about 67.

Stevie Winwood and Van Morrison IMHO the two greatest British vocals of alltime.

Regards

Brian

[Daved]

...It's not a cover - it's a revival. There's a big difference.

Unlike the A side, which most definitely was a cover. And a very good one at that....

A cover can only be called a cover if it comes out at the same time as, or within a matter of weeks of, the original. For example, the Moody Blues' 'Go Now' - recorded a matter of weeks after Bessie Banks' inferior original - is a cover, whereas Soft Cell's 'Tainted Love' - recorded 15 years after Gloria Jones - is a revival.

Pedantic, I know, but accurate nonetheless!

I've never heard such crap

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

I've never heard such crap

...Exactly what I said when I first heard Bessie Banks' inferior original of "Go Now"!

[dthedrug]

quote name='TONY ROUNCE' date='16 May 2010 - 06:15 AM' timestamp='1273986952' post='1332107']

Brian Peters told me that was played at the Scene as a new release - presumably Guy Stevens guided them towards it.

[timthemod]

And also one of my absolutely favourite British soul covers, Garnet Mimm's 'Look Away'. Stevie's voice is just amazing on this.

Not forgeting the soulful version of 'Let Me Down Easy'

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

HI ALL....ARE YOU SURE IT WAS THE SCENE CLUB AND NOT THE TILES CLUB? THEY DEFIANTLY DID STEVENAGE MECCA AND BOWES LION, ALSO THE CALIFORNIA. AT THE TIME THEY WERE DOING COVERS THEY WERE WRITING FOR OTHER BANDS (MUTT W) ON SMALL LABELS THAT WERE CONNECTED TO ISLAND RECORDS, INCLUDING AVENUE RECORDS, AND THE BAND THE NITER PEOPLE, LIKE OTHER MOD BANDS EMBRACED THE SOHO CLUBS AS WELL AS THE REGULAR COUNTRY SPOTS LIKE THE TWISTED WHEEL MOJO CLUB AND THE HITE-OWL. AS YOU KNOW THIS IS ANOTHER AREA OF COLLECTING 6ts UK 45s THAT DOES NOT GET TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH ON SOUL SOURCE

I PUT THE HURT ON YOU IS A DECENT COVER, AND TRAMPOLINE WAS A ALL NITER BIG ONE IN THE 6ts & MID 7ts WHEN IT WAS HUGE? GREAT STUFF DAVE

Hi Dave,

I'm absolutely positive it was the Scene. Brian took over DJ'ing from Guy down there, and got his copy from Guy, who had contacts with Duke-Peacock at the time.

Tiles hadn't even opened when the SDG cut "Strong Love". It didn't come to prominence until the Scene tailed off, slightly later on in the mid 60s (c. mid-end 1965 I think).

Best,

TONY