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Great idea often wondered myself.

BAZ A

Theres a great list in the Central 1179 book, however 99% of the tracks are what are currently classed as R&B so would send 90% of the site into apoplexy.

Guest JIM BARRY
Posted

there are 2 excellent c,d,s the twisted wheel story volumes 1 and 2, and as previously mentioned the book which is very in depth and a great read,:hatsoff2:

Posted (edited)

Phil,

Thats a good idea, also if anybody's got any old photos of "The Wheel" please can thet put them up on here. I haven't seen many since the original place closed.

Best Regards Ritchie. thumbsup.gif

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Guest proudlove
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there are 2 excellent c,d,s the twisted wheel story volumes 1 and 2, and as previously mentioned the book which is very in depth and a great read,hatsoff2.gif

Yup,got them both ........brilliant

Steve

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Twisted wheel Story Volume 1

1. Good Time Tonight - Soul Sisters (1)

2. Shotgun And The Duck - Lee, Jackie (1)

3. Fife Piper - Dynatones

4. You Get Your Kicks - Ryder, Mitch

5. Everybody's Going To A Love In - Brady, Bob

6. Karate Boogaloo - Jerry O

7. Gonna Fix You Good (Everytime You're Bad) - Little Anthony

8. Lill Lovin' Sometimes - Patton, Alexander

9. Ain't No Soul - Milsap, Ronnie

10. Humphrey Stomp - Harrison, Earl

11. That Driving Beat - Mitchell, Willie

12. There's Nothing Else To Say - Incredibles

13. Any Day Now - Jackson, Chuck

14. Dr Love - Sheen, Bobby

15. Love Is After Me - Rich, Charlie

16. Little Queenie - Black, Bill (1)

17. Secret Agents - Olympics

18. Tightrope - Foxx, Inez & Charlie

19. I Got What It Takes - Foxx, Inez & Charlie

20. That's Enough - Robinson, Roscoe

21. Open The Door To Your Heart - Banks, Darrell

22. My Elusive Dreams - Dillard, Moses & Joshua

23. Next In Line - Lands, Hoagy

24. It Keeps Rainin - Domino, Fats

25. Get Out Of My Heart - Dillard, Moses & Joshua

26. Never Love A Robin - Barbara & Brenda

The Twisted Wheel Forever

1. Competition Aint Nothing - Carl Carlton

2. Determination - Dean Parrish

3. Sweet Sweet Lovin - Platters

4. Let The Good Times Roll - Bunny Sigler

5. Personally - Bobby Paris

6. Angel Baby - Darrell Banks

7. Give Me One More Chance - Wilmer And The Dukes

8. Lets Copp A Groove - Bobby Wells

9. Grab Your Clothes (and Get On Out) - Minnie Epperson

10. Go Head On - Packers

11. Ooh Baby - Deon Jackson

12. Mr. Bang Bang - Little Hank

13. Tired Of Being Lonely - Sharpees

14. Kick That little Foot Sally Ann - Round Robin

15. The Pain Gets A Little Deeper - Darow Fletcher

16. Earthquake - Al 'TNT' Braggs

17. Gonzo - James Booker

18. And Get Away - Esquires

19. (Mama Come Quick, And Bring Your) Lickin Stick - George Torrence

20. Mr. Soul - Bud Harper

21. Twine Time - Alvin Cash

22. Every Beat Of My Heart - Duettes

23. The Fife Piper (Alternative Version - The Dynatones

Also from Sony the Northern Soul Story vol. 1 The Twisted Wheel

1. Magic Potion - Johnson, Lou

2. Hide And Go Seek - Hill, Bunker

3. That's What I Want To Know - Carr, James

4. Ride Your Pony - Dorsey, Lee

5. No Sad Songs - Toney, Oscar Jr.

6. My Elusive Dreams - Moses & Joshua Dillard

7. Shake A Tail Feather - James & Bobby Purify

8. Little Bit Of Something (Beats A Whole Lot Of Nothing) - Little Richard

9. It's The Beat - Major Lance

10. Quitter Never Wins - Williams, Larry & Johnny Watson

11. Don't Leave Me - Green, Al & The Soulmates

12. I Can't Get A Hold Of Myself - Curry, Clifford

13. Cheater - Kuban, Bob & The In-Men

14. Look What You've Done To My Heart - Shirley & The Shirelles

15. Let Love Come Between Us - James & Bobby Purify

16. Help Me (Get Myself Back Together Again) - Spellbinders

17. I Need Your Love So Desperately - Peaches & Herb

18. Breakin' Down The Walls Of Heartache - Bandwagon

19. Everybody's Going To The Love In - Brady, Bob & The Con Chords

20. There's Nothing Else To Say - Incredibles

21. Soul Time - Ellis, Shirley

22. Ain't No Soul (Left In These Old Shoes) - Major Lance

23. Right Track - Butler, Billy (1)

24. Cause You're Mine - Vibrations (1)

25. You're Gonna Make Me Love You - Sheldon, Sandi

Posted

I was too young to make the Twisted Wheel. I would love to hear some of the tunes that were played there. Any playlists or sound files?

Phil,

If I get some time will list hundreds that are not on the cds but will have to do it in a series of posts because it may take some time.

Hope thats some help.

Regards

Brian

Posted (edited)

Phil,

If I get some time will list hundreds that are not on the cds but will have to do it in a series of posts because it may take some time.

Hope thats some help.

Regards

Brian

that would be be fantastic Brian. The CD's tend to feature tunes what you expect to hear as 'wheel sound's. Its the others mate.....................................yes.gif

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JUST A FEW MORE FOR NOW

JERRY COOKE I HURT ON THE OTHER SIDE

ROBERT BANKS MIGHTY GOOD WAY

THE KELLY BROTHERS LOVE TIME

FANTASTIC FOUR I CANT STOP LOVING MY BABY

MAJOR LANCE RHYTHM

MAJOR LANCE THE MATADOR

MAJOR LANCE EVERYBODY LOVES A GOODTIME

MAJOR LANCE INVESTIGATE

MAJOR LANCE OOHPS DELILHA

EARL VAN DYKE I CANT HELP MYSELF

EARL VAN DYKE ALL FOR YOU

EARL VAN DYKE 6 X 6

THE ARTISTICS THIS HEART OF MINE

THE ARTISTICS THE CHASE IS ON

THE ARTISTICS HOPE WE HAVE

WAYNE FONTANA SOMETHING KEEPS CALLING ME BACK

SPENCER DAVIS THIS HAMMER

SPENCER DAVIS TRAMPOLINE

BILLY BUTLER I CANT WORK NO LONGER

WALTER JACKSON I KEEP FORGETING / WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE

WILLIAMS /WATSON TOO LATE

JIMMY HOLIDAY THE TURNING POINT

JIMMY HOLIDAY SPRED YOUR LOVE album version

JIMMY HOLIDAY AND CLYDIE KING READY WILLING AND ABLE

PEACHES AND HERB WERE IN THIS THING TOGETHER

VALA REGAN FIREMAN

THE OJAYS WORKING ON YOUR CASE

THE OJAYS I DIG YOUR ACT

NORMAN JOHNSON OUR LOVE WILL GROW

IRMA THOMAS WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO

JACKIE WILSON SOMEBODY UP THERE LIKE YOU

JACJIE WILSON YOU CAN COUNT ON ME

JACKIE WILSON YOU BROUGHT ABOUT A CHANGE IN ME

RUFUS LUMLEY IM STANDING

GEORGE STONE HOLE IN THE WALL

THE DYNATONES HOLE IN THE WALL

THE PACKERS HOLE IN THE WALL

DOBIE GRAT SEE YOU AT THE GO GO

DOBIE GRAY OUT ON THE FLOOR

DOBIE GRAY THE IN CROWD

ROUND ROBIN KICK THAT LITTLE FOOT SALLY ANNE

THE SHARPEES DO THE 45

JOHNIE TAYLOR CHANGES

LITTLE JOHNY TAYLOR ZIG ZAG LIGHTNING

BOBBY BLAND SHOES

BOBBY BLAND THESE HANDS

BOBBY BLAND YOUR WORTH IT ALL

BOBBY BLAND POVERTY

BOBBY BLAND GOOD TIME CHARLIE

BOBBY BLAND CALL ON ME

BOBBY BLAND AINT NOYHING YOU CAN DO

BARBARA LYNN TAKE YOUR LOVE AND RUN

BARBARA LYNN YOUR LOOSING ME

BARBARA LYNN THIS IS THE THANKS I GET

JOHNY COPELAND SUFFERIN CITY

JIMMY HUGHES NEIGBOUR NEIGBOUR

THE ADLIBS NEIGHBOUR NEIGHBOUR

THE ADLIBS BOY FROM NEW YORK CITY

EVIE SANDS PICTURE ME GONE

MADELINE BELL PICTURE ME GONE

BAND OF ANGELS INVITATION

MOOD MOSAIC TOUCH OF VELVET STING OF BRASS

RAY POLLARD THE DRIFTER

RAY POLLARD ITS A SAD THING

THE IMPRESSIONS YOU OUGHT TO BE IN HEAVEN

THE IMPRESSIONS NOTHING CAN STOP ME

THE IMPRESSIONS I CANT SATISFY

THE IMPRESSIONS MEETING OVER YONDER

THE IMPRESSIONS I LOVE YOU YEAH

THE IMPRESSIONS WOMANS GOT SOUL

THE IMPRESSIONS ITS ALLRIGHT

THE IMPRESSIONS YOU ALWAYS HURT ME

THE IMPRESSIONS SINCE I LOST THE ONE I LOVE

THE IMPRESSIONS GYPSY WOMAN

RAY CHARLES I CHOSE TO SING THE BLUES

SAM COOKE SUGAR DUMPLING

SAM COOKE CHAIN GANG

SAM COOKE ANOTHER SATURDAY NIGHT

TO BE CONTINUED

Posted

Many thanks Brian, I'm already amazed at the variety of tempo's and styles. I'm also amazed that a lot of these tunes that I thought were from the Cats/Torch & Mecca were in fact Wheel plays. Must have been fantastic. I also enjoyed the book, and thought that it really transported you back to a different time.

Phil.

Posted

JUST A FEW MORE FOR NOW

JERRY COOKE I HURT ON THE OTHER SIDE

ROBERT BANKS MIGHTY GOOD WAY

THE KELLY BROTHERS LOVE TIME

FANTASTIC FOUR I CANT STOP LOVING MY BABY

MAJOR LANCE RHYTHM

MAJOR LANCE THE MATADOR

MAJOR LANCE EVERYBODY LOVES A GOODTIME

MAJOR LANCE INVESTIGATE

MAJOR LANCE OOHPS DELILHA

EARL VAN DYKE I CANT HELP MYSELF

EARL VAN DYKE ALL FOR YOU

EARL VAN DYKE 6 X 6

THE ARTISTICS THIS HEART OF MINE

THE ARTISTICS THE CHASE IS ON

THE ARTISTICS HOPE WE HAVE

WAYNE FONTANA SOMETHING KEEPS CALLING ME BACK

SPENCER DAVIS THIS HAMMER

SPENCER DAVIS TRAMPOLINE

BILLY BUTLER I CANT WORK NO LONGER

WALTER JACKSON I KEEP FORGETING / WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE

WILLIAMS /WATSON TOO LATE

JIMMY HOLIDAY THE TURNING POINT

JIMMY HOLIDAY SPRED YOUR LOVE album version

JIMMY HOLIDAY AND CLYDIE KING READY WILLING AND ABLE

PEACHES AND HERB WERE IN THIS THING TOGETHER

VALA REGAN FIREMAN

THE OJAYS WORKING ON YOUR CASE

THE OJAYS I DIG YOUR ACT

NORMAN JOHNSON OUR LOVE WILL GROW

IRMA THOMAS WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO

JACKIE WILSON SOMEBODY UP THERE LIKE YOU

JACJIE WILSON YOU CAN COUNT ON ME

JACKIE WILSON YOU BROUGHT ABOUT A CHANGE IN ME

RUFUS LUMLEY IM STANDING

GEORGE STONE HOLE IN THE WALL

THE DYNATONES HOLE IN THE WALL

THE PACKERS HOLE IN THE WALL

DOBIE GRAT SEE YOU AT THE GO GO

DOBIE GRAY OUT ON THE FLOOR

DOBIE GRAY THE IN CROWD

ROUND ROBIN KICK THAT LITTLE FOOT SALLY ANNE

THE SHARPEES DO THE 45

JOHNIE TAYLOR CHANGES

LITTLE JOHNY TAYLOR ZIG ZAG LIGHTNING

BOBBY BLAND SHOES

BOBBY BLAND THESE HANDS

BOBBY BLAND YOUR WORTH IT ALL

BOBBY BLAND POVERTY

BOBBY BLAND GOOD TIME CHARLIE

BOBBY BLAND CALL ON ME

BOBBY BLAND AINT NOYHING YOU CAN DO

BARBARA LYNN TAKE YOUR LOVE AND RUN

BARBARA LYNN YOUR LOOSING ME

BARBARA LYNN THIS IS THE THANKS I GET

JOHNY COPELAND SUFFERIN CITY

JIMMY HUGHES NEIGBOUR NEIGBOUR

THE ADLIBS NEIGHBOUR NEIGHBOUR

THE ADLIBS BOY FROM NEW YORK CITY

EVIE SANDS PICTURE ME GONE

MADELINE BELL PICTURE ME GONE

BAND OF ANGELS INVITATION

MOOD MOSAIC TOUCH OF VELVET STING OF BRASS

RAY POLLARD THE DRIFTER

RAY POLLARD ITS A SAD THING

THE IMPRESSIONS YOU OUGHT TO BE IN HEAVEN

THE IMPRESSIONS NOTHING CAN STOP ME

THE IMPRESSIONS I CANT SATISFY

THE IMPRESSIONS MEETING OVER YONDER

THE IMPRESSIONS I LOVE YOU YEAH

THE IMPRESSIONS WOMANS GOT SOUL

THE IMPRESSIONS ITS ALLRIGHT

THE IMPRESSIONS YOU ALWAYS HURT ME

THE IMPRESSIONS SINCE I LOST THE ONE I LOVE

THE IMPRESSIONS GYPSY WOMAN

RAY CHARLES I CHOSE TO SING THE BLUES

SAM COOKE SUGAR DUMPLING

SAM COOKE CHAIN GANG

SAM COOKE ANOTHER SATURDAY NIGHT

TO BE CONTINUED

Oh yes Mighty good way, zig zag lightning, sufferin city...........etc

great stuff Brithumbsup.gif

Posted

Many thanks Brian, I'm already amazed at the variety of tempo's and styles. I'm also amazed that a lot of these tunes that I thought were from the Cats/Torch & Mecca were in fact Wheel plays. Must have been fantastic. I also enjoyed the book, and thought that it really transported you back to a different time.

Phil.

Hi Phil,

Some of the tunes mentioned were played in the pre 68 era and also we played some slower stuff last half hour, will try and stick to the last 3 years and stuff played at the allniters and not on the cds.

Hows Burnley still rocking?

Regards

BRian

CONT>>

JJ BARNES REAL HIMDINGER

JJ BARNES PLEASE LET ME IN

EDWIN STARR AGENT OO SOUL

EDWIN STARR IVE GOT FAITH IN YOU

EDWIN STARR BACKSTREET

EDWIN STARR MY WEAKNESS IS YOU

BOB WILSON IF IT FEELS GOOD

SAN REMO STRINGS FESTIVAL TIME

LAURA LEE TO WIN YOUR HEART

MARLENA SHAW LETS WADE IN THE WATER

JOY LOVEYOY IN ORBIT

JACKIE WILSON DARKEST DAYS

LEON HAYWOOD BABY RECONSIDER

BOB SEEGER HEAVY MUSIC

FRANKI VALI YOURE READY NOW

BOBBY BENETT YOUR READY NOW

THE LARKS THE JERK

THE GYPSIES JERK IT

SANDY WYNS TOUCH OF VENUS

CHAIMAN OF THE BOARD GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE MORE TIME

VAN MORRISON DOMINO

LOS CANARIOS GET ON YOUR KNEES

PATRICIA HOLLOWAY LOVE AND DESIRE /ECTASY

REUBEN BELL HEY GIRL

JAMES CARR COMING BACK TO ME BABY

PERCY MILLEM CALL ON ME

CHUCK JACKSON GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT

THE MIRACLES GOTTA DANCE TO KEEP FROM CRYING

THE VELVELETTES THESE THINGS KEEP ME LOVING YOU

THE VELVELETTES NEEDLE IN AN HAYSTACK

THE VELVELETTES REALLY SAYING SOMETHING

THE SUPREMES LOVE IS LIKE A ITCHING IN MY HEART

TAJ MAHAL A LOT OF LOVE

ART FREEMAN SLIPPING AROUND

DEON JACKSON LOVE MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND

BEN E KING CRY NO MORE

DENISE LASELLE LOVE REPUTATION

GENE CHANDLER JUST A FOOL FOR YOU

GENE CHANDLER GOOD TIMES

THE VANTASTICS LADY LOVE

GENE CHANDLER A SONG CALLED SOUL

FRANCIS NERO KEEP ON LOVING ME

SOULFUL STRINGS BURNING SPEAR

BOBBY TAYLOR OH IVE BEEN BLESSED

BETTY LAVETTE LET ME DOWN EASY

BETTY LAVETTE ONLY YOUR LOVE CAN SAVE ME

MARY LOVE YOU TURNED MY BITTER INTO SWEET

MARY LOVE LAY THIS BURDEN DOWN

THE SPINNERS ILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU

THE SPINNERS TRULY YOURS

THE SPINNERS SWEET THING

KETTY LESTER WEST COAST

HOMER BANKS HOOKED BY LOVE

THE SPELLBINDERS HELP ME

THE SPELLBINDERS CHAIN REACTION

BETTY SWAN MAKE ME YOURS

LOU JOHNSON UNSATISFIED

WILLIE MITCHELL SECRET HOME

JACKIE DAY BEFORE ITS TO LATE

THE SAPHIRES GOT TO HAVE YOUR LOVE

THE TAMS HEY GIRL DONT BOTHER ME

BABARA MILLS QUEEN OF FOOLS

THE BLENDELLS LA LA LA LA

THE BLENDELLS DANCE WITH ME

THE CAROLLS SURRENDER YOUR LOVE

IKE AND TINA TURNER SOMEBODY UP THERE NEEDS YOU

THE JAYBIRDS SOMEBODY HELP ME

MARVIN SMITH HAVE MORE TIME

VERNON GARETT SHINE IT ON

VERNON GARRETT TUN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME

JAMES CARR LOOSING GAME

SAMMY AMBROSE WELCOME TO DREAMSVILLE

VIRGINIA WOLFS STAY

THE JAYNETTES SALLY GO ROUND

DEAN PARISH TELL HER

CHUBBY CHECKER JUST DONT KNOW

CHUBBY CHECKER CUM A LA BE STAY

GARNETT MIMMS LOOKING FOR YOU

ETTA JAMES BOBBY MCLURE DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR

CASH MCALL ITS WONDERFUL

LITTLE MILTON WHOS CHEATIN WHO

BOBBY FREEMAN THE DUCK

BOBBY FREEMAN COMON AND SWIM

CHUCK JACKSON HAND IT OVER

BOB WILSON ALL TURNED ON

BOBBY BLAND YUM YUM TREE

BOOKER T SWEET POTATO

EROL DIXSON I NEED SOMEONE TO LOVE

THE CONTOURS JUST A LITTLE MISUNDERSTANDING

THE CONTOURS FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE

JACKIE EDWARDS FEEL SO BAD

BETTY HARRIS 12 RED ROSES

HUMAN BEINX NOBODY BUT ME

appologies for spelling etc.

Regards

BRian

Posted

Loads of the above in refo-soul why dont someone post some up ? thumbsup.gif


Posted

Loads of the above in refo-soul why dont someone post some up ? thumbsup.gif

I was going to Ken, but all the ones I looked at were only part files. I've noticed that all the classic oldies that Mike put up seem to be the same. sad.gif

Phil.

Posted

Phil, Sorry to hear Burnleys not going.

Chalky, I think their going to reprint the book.

A FEW MORE FROM MY MEMORY

THE RADIANTS VOICE YOUR CHOICE

THE RADIANYS AINT NO BIG THING

JACKIE WILSON SWEETEST FEELING/ NOTHING BUT BLUE SKIES

JAMES CARR FREEDOM TRAIN

IKE AND TINA DUST MY BROOM

THE IKETTES WHAT YOU GONNA DO

GOOGIE RENE SMOKIE JOES LA LA LA

THE OLYMPICS SAME OLD THING

THE OLYMPICS WE GO TOGETHER

JOHNY WYATT THIS THING CALLED LOVE

KENNY BERNARD PITY MY FEET

ISLEY BROTHERS TELL ME ITS JUST A RUMOUR BABY

GENE CHANDLER I CAN TAKE CARE OF MYSELF

HERBIE MANN PHILLY DOG

THE FORMATIONS AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS

GLORIA JONES HEARTBEAT

GLORIA JONES FINDERS KEEPERS

THE HESITATIONS YOU CANT BYPASS LOVE

BARBARA ACKLIN LOVE MAKES A WOMAN

DARRELL BANKS SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE NEEDS YOU

KIM WESTON HELPLESS

THE PLATTERS SWEET SWEET LOVING

THE INTRIGUES IN A MOMENT

HERBIE GOINS NO 1 IN YOUR HEART

WILLIAMS AND WATSON ONE GOOD REASON

JOHNY TAYLOR BLUES IN THE NIGHT

AL WILSON NOW I KNOW WHAT LOVE IS (we wouldn't play the snake)

THE ADLIBS NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALONE

DEE DEE SHARP WHAT KIND OF LADY

BUNNY SIGLER GIRL DONT MAKE ME WAIT

BOB BRADY MORE MORE OF YOUR LOVE

EROL DIXON THE HOOP

Like any club the playlist is almost endless from the early days of Bob Dylan through the R&B period onto the soul years where all the new releases would have got a play.

By 67/68 a lot of Manchester drinking clubs were dominated by the latest soul releases and some re-releases on stax,atlantic,motown,direction,and a smattering of stateside.So a lot of this stuff got played at early sessions less so at the allniters.

Posted

Living history.

We are very lucky to still have the place and I made my pilgrimage there last summer as every Soulie should make a pilgrimage to this place were it all started.

I love the fact that their music policy is The Wheel, you aint going to hear anything new and you aint going to have the space to chuck yer sen around like a loony coz its busy with soul!

Mega do, proper time travel!

Posted

Living history.

We are very lucky to still have the place and I made my pilgrimage there last summer as every Soulie should make a pilgrimage to this place were it all started.

I love the fact that their music policy is The Wheel, you aint going to hear anything new and you aint going to have the space to chuck yer sen around like a loony coz its busy with soul!

Mega do, proper time travel!

Its a pity the place isn't the same as the 60's with all the alterations and it now being two clubs rather than one the downstairs was originally all dance areas no bar no toilets and no seats they were upstairs but nothings perfect.

Regards

Brian

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Posted

JUST A FEW MORE FOR NOW

JERRY COOKE I HURT ON THE OTHER SIDE

ROBERT BANKS MIGHTY GOOD WAY

THE KELLY BROTHERS LOVE TIME

FANTASTIC FOUR I CANT STOP LOVING MY BABY

MAJOR LANCE RHYTHM

MAJOR LANCE THE MATADOR

MAJOR LANCE EVERYBODY LOVES A GOODTIME

MAJOR LANCE INVESTIGATE

MAJOR LANCE OOHPS DELILHA

EARL VAN DYKE I CANT HELP MYSELF

EARL VAN DYKE ALL FOR YOU

EARL VAN DYKE 6 X 6

THE ARTISTICS THIS HEART OF MINE

THE ARTISTICS THE CHASE IS ON

THE ARTISTICS HOPE WE HAVE

WAYNE FONTANA SOMETHING KEEPS CALLING ME BACK

SPENCER DAVIS THIS HAMMER

SPENCER DAVIS TRAMPOLINE

BILLY BUTLER I CANT WORK NO LONGER

WALTER JACKSON I KEEP FORGETING / WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE

WILLIAMS /WATSON TOO LATE

JIMMY HOLIDAY THE TURNING POINT

JIMMY HOLIDAY SPRED YOUR LOVE album version

JIMMY HOLIDAY AND CLYDIE KING READY WILLING AND ABLE

PEACHES AND HERB WERE IN THIS THING TOGETHER

VALA REGAN FIREMAN

THE OJAYS WORKING ON YOUR CASE

THE OJAYS I DIG YOUR ACT

NORMAN JOHNSON OUR LOVE WILL GROW

IRMA THOMAS WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO

JACKIE WILSON SOMEBODY UP THERE LIKE YOU

JACJIE WILSON YOU CAN COUNT ON ME

JACKIE WILSON YOU BROUGHT ABOUT A CHANGE IN ME

RUFUS LUMLEY IM STANDING

GEORGE STONE HOLE IN THE WALL

THE DYNATONES HOLE IN THE WALL

THE PACKERS HOLE IN THE WALL

DOBIE GRAT SEE YOU AT THE GO GO

DOBIE GRAY OUT ON THE FLOOR

DOBIE GRAY THE IN CROWD

ROUND ROBIN KICK THAT LITTLE FOOT SALLY ANNE

THE SHARPEES DO THE 45

JOHNIE TAYLOR CHANGES

LITTLE JOHNY TAYLOR ZIG ZAG LIGHTNING

BOBBY BLAND SHOES

BOBBY BLAND THESE HANDS

BOBBY BLAND YOUR WORTH IT ALL

BOBBY BLAND POVERTY

BOBBY BLAND GOOD TIME CHARLIE

BOBBY BLAND CALL ON ME

BOBBY BLAND AINT NOYHING YOU CAN DO

BARBARA LYNN TAKE YOUR LOVE AND RUN

BARBARA LYNN YOUR LOOSING ME

BARBARA LYNN THIS IS THE THANKS I GET

JOHNY COPELAND SUFFERIN CITY

JIMMY HUGHES NEIGBOUR NEIGBOUR

THE ADLIBS NEIGHBOUR NEIGHBOUR

THE ADLIBS BOY FROM NEW YORK CITY

EVIE SANDS PICTURE ME GONE

MADELINE BELL PICTURE ME GONE

BAND OF ANGELS INVITATION

MOOD MOSAIC TOUCH OF VELVET STING OF BRASS

RAY POLLARD THE DRIFTER

RAY POLLARD ITS A SAD THING

THE IMPRESSIONS YOU OUGHT TO BE IN HEAVEN

THE IMPRESSIONS NOTHING CAN STOP ME

THE IMPRESSIONS I CANT SATISFY

THE IMPRESSIONS MEETING OVER YONDER

THE IMPRESSIONS I LOVE YOU YEAH

THE IMPRESSIONS WOMANS GOT SOUL

THE IMPRESSIONS ITS ALLRIGHT

THE IMPRESSIONS YOU ALWAYS HURT ME

THE IMPRESSIONS SINCE I LOST THE ONE I LOVE

THE IMPRESSIONS GYPSY WOMAN

RAY CHARLES I CHOSE TO SING THE BLUES

SAM COOKE SUGAR DUMPLING

SAM COOKE CHAIN GANG

SAM COOKE ANOTHER SATURDAY NIGHT

TO BE CONTINUED

You are pretending pal. You never went there.

All these from your list were discovered later:

RAY POLLARD THE DRIFTER

RAY POLLARD ITS A SAD THING

THE IMPRESSIONS YOU OUGHT TO BE IN HEAVEN

EVIE SANDS PICTURE ME GONE

MADELINE BELL PICTURE ME GONE

BARBARA LYNN TAKE YOUR LOVE AND RUN

BARBARA LYNN YOUR LOSING ME

BARBARA LYNN THIS IS THE THANKS I GET

JOHNY COPELAND SUFFERIN CITY

DOBIE GRAY OUT ON THE FLOOR

RUFUS LUMLEY IM STANDING

VALA REGAN FIREMAN

JERRY COOKE I HURT ON THE OTHER SIDE

ROBERT BANKS MIGHTY GOOD WAY

THE KELLY BROTHERS LOVE TIME

BAND OF ANGELS INVITATION

Posted

So were these:

KENNY BERNARD PITY MY FEET

ISLEY BROTHERS TELL ME ITS JUST A RUMOUR BABY

GLORIA JONES HEARTBEAT

GLORIA JONES FINDERS KEEPERS

THE HESITATIONS YOU CANT BYPASS LOVE

THE ADLIBS NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALONE

it would have been very difficult to play TELL ME ITS JUST A RUMOUR, seeing as it only existed on a MFP L.P. that wasn't even made until The Wheel had closed down.

Also I know who discovered OUT ON THE FLOOR and was there at a certain venue when it was first played.

I also know who discovered INVITATION and NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALONE.

Strangely enough I was with this guy when they were first played.

I also know who discovered Sandi Sheldon (I realise you don't mention this, but the book CENTRAL 1179 does) and that was also discovered later, and believe it or not, I was there as well.

Posted

Hi Phil,

Some of the tunes mentioned were played in the pre 68 era and also we played some slower stuff last half hour, will try and stick to the last 3 years and stuff played at the allniters and not on the cds.

Hows Burnley still rocking?

Regards

BRian

CONT>>

JJ BARNES REAL HIMDINGER

JJ BARNES PLEASE LET ME IN

EDWIN STARR AGENT OO SOUL

EDWIN STARR IVE GOT FAITH IN YOU

EDWIN STARR BACKSTREET

EDWIN STARR MY WEAKNESS IS YOU

BOB WILSON IF IT FEELS GOOD

SAN REMO STRINGS FESTIVAL TIME

LAURA LEE TO WIN YOUR HEART

MARLENA SHAW LETS WADE IN THE WATER

JOY LOVEYOY IN ORBIT

JACKIE WILSON DARKEST DAYS

LEON HAYWOOD BABY RECONSIDER

BOB SEEGER HEAVY MUSIC

FRANKI VALI YOURE READY NOW

BOBBY BENETT YOUR READY NOW

THE LARKS THE JERK

THE GYPSIES JERK IT

SANDY WYNS TOUCH OF VENUS

CHAIMAN OF THE BOARD GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE MORE TIME

VAN MORRISON DOMINO

LOS CANARIOS GET ON YOUR KNEES

PATRICIA HOLLOWAY LOVE AND DESIRE /ECTASY

REUBEN BELL HEY GIRL

JAMES CARR COMING BACK TO ME BABY

PERCY MILLEM CALL ON ME

CHUCK JACKSON GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT

THE MIRACLES GOTTA DANCE TO KEEP FROM CRYING

THE VELVELETTES THESE THINGS KEEP ME LOVING YOU

THE VELVELETTES NEEDLE IN AN HAYSTACK

THE VELVELETTES REALLY SAYING SOMETHING

THE SUPREMES LOVE IS LIKE A ITCHING IN MY HEART

TAJ MAHAL A LOT OF LOVE

ART FREEMAN SLIPPING AROUND

DEON JACKSON LOVE MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND

BEN E KING CRY NO MORE

DENISE LASELLE LOVE REPUTATION

GENE CHANDLER JUST A FOOL FOR YOU

GENE CHANDLER GOOD TIMES

THE VANTASTICS LADY LOVE

GENE CHANDLER A SONG CALLED SOUL

FRANCIS NERO KEEP ON LOVING ME

SOULFUL STRINGS BURNING SPEAR

BOBBY TAYLOR OH IVE BEEN BLESSED

BETTY LAVETTE LET ME DOWN EASY

BETTY LAVETTE ONLY YOUR LOVE CAN SAVE ME

MARY LOVE YOU TURNED MY BITTER INTO SWEET

MARY LOVE LAY THIS BURDEN DOWN

THE SPINNERS ILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU

THE SPINNERS TRULY YOURS

THE SPINNERS SWEET THING

KETTY LESTER WEST COAST

HOMER BANKS HOOKED BY LOVE

THE SPELLBINDERS HELP ME

THE SPELLBINDERS CHAIN REACTION

BETTY SWAN MAKE ME YOURS

LOU JOHNSON UNSATISFIED

WILLIE MITCHELL SECRET HOME

JACKIE DAY BEFORE ITS TO LATE

THE SAPHIRES GOT TO HAVE YOUR LOVE

THE TAMS HEY GIRL DONT BOTHER ME

BABARA MILLS QUEEN OF FOOLS

THE BLENDELLS LA LA LA LA

THE BLENDELLS DANCE WITH ME

THE CAROLLS SURRENDER YOUR LOVE

IKE AND TINA TURNER SOMEBODY UP THERE NEEDS YOU

THE JAYBIRDS SOMEBODY HELP ME

MARVIN SMITH HAVE MORE TIME

VERNON GARETT SHINE IT ON

VERNON GARRETT TUN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME

JAMES CARR LOOSING GAME

SAMMY AMBROSE WELCOME TO DREAMSVILLE

VIRGINIA WOLFS STAY

THE JAYNETTES SALLY GO ROUND

DEAN PARISH TELL HER

CHUBBY CHECKER JUST DONT KNOW

CHUBBY CHECKER CUM A LA BE STAY

GARNETT MIMMS LOOKING FOR YOU

ETTA JAMES BOBBY MCLURE DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR

CASH MCALL ITS WONDERFUL

LITTLE MILTON WHOS CHEATIN WHO

BOBBY FREEMAN THE DUCK

BOBBY FREEMAN COMON AND SWIM

CHUCK JACKSON HAND IT OVER

BOB WILSON ALL TURNED ON

BOBBY BLAND YUM YUM TREE

BOOKER T SWEET POTATO

EROL DIXSON I NEED SOMEONE TO LOVE

THE CONTOURS JUST A LITTLE MISUNDERSTANDING

THE CONTOURS FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE

JACKIE EDWARDS FEEL SO BAD

BETTY HARRIS 12 RED ROSES

HUMAN BEINX NOBODY BUT ME

appologies for spelling etc.

Regards

BRian

All these were discovered later as well;

JOY LOVEYOY IN ORBIT

JACKIE WILSON DARKEST DAYS

BOB WILSON IF IT FEELS GOOD

VAN MORRISON DOMINO

BABARA MILLS QUEEN OF FOOLS

VERNON GARRETT IF I COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME

CHUBBY CHECKER JUST DONT KNOW

LOU JOHNSON UNSATISFIED

DENISE LASALLE LOVE REPUTATION

CHUCK JACKSON GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT

THE VONTASTICS LADY LOVE

Posted

So were these:

KENNY BERNARD PITY MY FEET

ISLEY BROTHERS TELL ME ITS JUST A RUMOUR BABY

GLORIA JONES HEARTBEAT

GLORIA JONES FINDERS KEEPERS

THE HESITATIONS YOU CANT BYPASS LOVE

THE ADLIBS NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALONE

it would have been very difficult to play TELL ME ITS JUST A RUMOUR, seeing as it only existed on a MFP L.P. that wasn't even made until The Wheel had closed down.

Also I know who discovered OUT ON THE FLOOR and was there at a certain venue when it was first played.

I also know who discovered INVITATION and NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALONE.

Strangely enough I was with this guy when they were first played.

I also know who discovered Sandi Sheldon (I realise you don't mention this, but the book CENTRAL 1179 does) and that was also discovered later, and believe it or not, I was there as well.

Thought -Tell me It's Just a Rumour, was on Soul on The Rocks LP '67ish??

Tony

Posted

So were these:

KENNY BERNARD PITY MY FEET

ISLEY BROTHERS TELL ME ITS JUST A RUMOUR BABY

GLORIA JONES HEARTBEAT

GLORIA JONES FINDERS KEEPERSTHE HESITATIONS YOU CANT BYPASS LOVE

THE ADLIBS NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALONE

it would have been very difficult to play TELL ME ITS JUST A RUMOUR, seeing as it only existed on a MFP L.P. that wasn't even made until The Wheel had closed down.

Also I know who discovered OUT ON THE FLOOR and was there at a certain venue when it was first played.

I also know who discovered INVITATION and NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALONE.

Strangely enough I was with this guy when they were first played.

I also know who discovered Sandi Sheldon (I realise you don't mention this, but the book CENTRAL 1179 does) and that was also discovered later, and believe it or not, I was there as well.

OK I didn't go to the Wheel but I did go to the Moon in Duckinfield, Birdcage in Ashton and Poco Poco in Stockport from '69 to '71. The clientelle was made up of a lot of Wheel lads and I recognise loads of those records from then.

I can definitely state that I bought Gloria Jones for £1 in 1970 in Ralph's Records in Stockport off "Scotch Joe" and "Little Louis" who assured me it was a Wheel sound and if you'd have seen them you wouldn't have begged to differ! At the same time I bought "Here she comes" CP DJ also as a Wheel sound from them and ended up swapping it for "Darrell Banks "Angel baby" with Al Burkehead.

Im assuming Brian when he says Tib St means that little shop with other outlets in Oldham and Ashton [Jim [Dobbs?] was his name I think and his wife was usually behind the counter]. When I worked in Manchester from Sept '71 It always had oddball imports but I did pop in once or twice prior to that.

Dave Withers, McCadden and me got in his "warehouse" at the back of the shop in Ashton that John Hillel took over. Can't remember exact date but Carolines was on then in Manchester. Full of imports and we got 40+ Lenny Curtis plus others.

So I'd say Tib St was a source for Northern from quite early on.

Francis T could probably add info too.

ROD

Posted

im with swish...........i thought lots of that list were torch era finds myself , or even early wigan/mecca.....may be wrong tho ..memory is sometimes what you want it to be not what it was...............more nostalgia, ?? think we got enough on here tbh.......ez

Posted

OK I didn't go to the Wheel but I did go to the Moon in Duckinfield, Birdcage in Ashton and Poco Poco in Stockport from '69 to '71. The clientelle was made up of a lot of Wheel lads and I recognise loads of those records from then.

I can definitely state that I bought Gloria Jones for £1 in 1970 in Ralph's Records in Stockport off "Scotch Joe" and "Little Louis" who assured me it was a Wheel sound and if you'd have seen them you wouldn't have begged to differ! At the same time I bought "Here she comes" CP DJ also as a Wheel sound from them and ended up swapping it for "Darrell Banks "Angel baby" with Al Burkehead.

Im assuming Brian when he says Tib St means that little shop with other outlets in Oldham and Ashton [Jim [Dobbs?] was his name I think and his wife was usually behind the counter]. When I worked in Manchester from Sept '71 It always had oddball imports but I did pop in once or twice prior to that.

Dave Withers, McCadden and me got in his "warehouse" at the back of the shop in Ashton that John Hillel took over. Can't remember exact date but Carolines was on then in Manchester. Full of imports and we got 40+ Lenny Curtis plus others.

So I'd say Tib St was a source for Northern from quite early on.

Francis T could probably add info too.

ROD

Thanks Rod, sure I can't be 100% correct, it is too long ago. Guess I am wrong about GLORIA JONES then. But most of them I know I am right.

When folks say things that are impossible to be true, especially folks I have never heard of, like TELL ME IT IS JUST A RUMOUR was played when it didn't even exist well I get very skeptcal. When OUT ON THE FLOOR was brought into _____by____ and he said wait till you all here this. Well it blew our minds.

No one in the world could have heard that before and forgotten they had ever heard itbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

Coupled with all the years and all the hundreds of people I knew amd no one atall has ever said it was played at the Wheel except this guy! DO ME A FAVOUR! The guy who discovered it was a staunch Wheel goer anyway. He would have hardly brought a massive sound like that into a new venue and said "Wait till you hear this", if it was already known, now would he?

.

Posted

Phil, Sorry to hear Burnleys not going.

Chalky, I think their going to reprint the book.

A FEW MORE FROM MY MEMORY

THE RADIANTS VOICE YOUR CHOICE

THE RADIANYS AINT NO BIG THING

JACKIE WILSON SWEETEST FEELING/ NOTHING BUT BLUE SKIES

JAMES CARR FREEDOM TRAIN

IKE AND TINA DUST MY BROOM

THE IKETTES WHAT YOU GONNA DO

GOOGIE RENE SMOKIE JOES LA LA LA

THE OLYMPICS SAME OLD THING

THE OLYMPICS WE GO TOGETHER

JOHNY WYATT THIS THING CALLED LOVE

KENNY BERNARD PITY MY FEET

ISLEY BROTHERS TELL ME ITS JUST A RUMOUR BABY

GENE CHANDLER I CAN TAKE CARE OF MYSELF

HERBIE MANN PHILLY DOG

THE FORMATIONS AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS

GLORIA JONES HEARTBEAT

GLORIA JONES FINDERS KEEPERS

THE HESITATIONS YOU CANT BYPASS LOVE

BARBARA ACKLIN LOVE MAKES A WOMAN

DARRELL BANKS SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE NEEDS YOU

KIM WESTON HELPLESS

THE PLATTERS SWEET SWEET LOVING

THE INTRIGUES IN A MOMENT

HERBIE GOINS NO 1 IN YOUR HEART

WILLIAMS AND WATSON ONE GOOD REASON

JOHNY TAYLOR BLUES IN THE NIGHT

AL WILSON NOW I KNOW WHAT LOVE IS (we wouldn't play the snake)

THE ADLIBS NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALONE

DEE DEE SHARP WHAT KIND OF LADY

BUNNY SIGLER GIRL DONT MAKE ME WAIT

BOB BRADY MORE MORE OF YOUR LOVE

EROL DIXON THE HOOP

Like any club the playlist is almost endless from the early days of Bob Dylan through the R&B period onto the soul years where all the new releases would have got a play.

By 67/68 a lot of Manchester drinking clubs were dominated by the latest soul releases and some re-releases on stax,atlantic,motown,direction,and a smattering of stateside.So a lot of this stuff got played at early sessions less so at the allniters.

Hi Brian,

Our old mate Fred Benson used to play a large number of records listed at the Riddings Soul Club- Scunthorpe at the same time the Wheel was on the go. Fred nearly always finished with a combination of the following.

It's So Hard Being A Loser - Contours

I Want To Go Back There Again - Chris Clark

For All We Know - Spinners

Make Me Yours - Bettye Swann

I'm Gonna Miss You - Artistics

Although I never made the Wheel,the sounds played there has shaped the rest of my life musically and introduced me to hundreds, if not thousands of friends with the same love of this wonderful scene ( and just as many who want to argue about it as well ! )

Steve


Posted

.

When folks say things that are impossible to be true, especially folks I have never heard of, like TELL ME IT IS JUST A RUMOUR was played when it didn't even exist well I get very skeptcal. When OUT ON THE FLOOR was brought into _____by____ and he said wait till you all here this. Well it blew our minds.

No one in the world could have heard that before and forgotten they had ever heard itbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

Coupled with all the years and all the hundreds of people I knew amd no one atall has ever said it was played at the Wheel except this guy! DO ME A FAVOUR! The guy who discovered it was a staunch Wheel goer anyway. He would have hardly brought a massive sound like that into a new venue and said "Wait till you hear this", if it was already known, now would he?

.

What is impossible about Tell me It's Just A Rumour? Already said twice that it was available on an LP in 1967.

Who did discover Out on The Floor and where was it played then? Enlighten us.

I thought Brian was a DJ at the Wheel so how can you say he never went?

How come you are always right and others wrong? You're memory surely can't be so tip top all things considered?

Posted

You are pretending pal. You never went there.

All these from your list were discovered later:

RAY POLLARD THE DRIFTER

RAY POLLARD ITS A SAD THING

THE IMPRESSIONS YOU OUGHT TO BE IN HEAVEN

EVIE SANDS PICTURE ME GONE

MADELINE BELL PICTURE ME GONE

BARBARA LYNN TAKE YOUR LOVE AND RUN

BARBARA LYNN YOUR LOSING ME

BARBARA LYNN THIS IS THE THANKS I GET

JOHNY COPELAND SUFFERIN CITY

DOBIE GRAY OUT ON THE FLOOR

RUFUS LUMLEY IM STANDING

VALA REGAN FIREMAN

JERRY COOKE I HURT ON THE OTHER SIDE

ROBERT BANKS MIGHTY GOOD WAY

THE KELLY BROTHERS LOVE TIME

BAND OF ANGELS INVITATION

I was playing You Ought To Be In Heaven off The Fabulous Impressions album and Picture Me Gone by Evie Sands UK CP at my local village youth club in the late sixties and also Theres A Ghost In My House off Motown Memories 2, so highly likely could have been discovered in more famous surroundings than mine.

Steve

Posted (edited)

I was playing You Ought To Be In Heaven off The Fabulous Impressions album and Picture Me Gone by Evie Sands UK CP at my local village youth club in the late sixties and also Theres A Ghost In My House off Motown Memories 2, so highly likely could have been discovered in more famous surroundings than mine.

Steve

I got to join Swish on this although maybe one or two of the titles mentioned were Wheel tunes, not all those..Also 'Ghost In My House' in the 60's on Motown Memories 2 '!!! sorry mate..not having that.

Also, Just a Rumour' may well be on a 67' LP

Bbut it wasnt played until early 70's..an old mate of mine who was a Wheel regular long before me, always loved 'Why When Love Is Gone' and when he heard Rumour on returning to the scene a few years back couldnt believe it. He'd never heard of it til then..and he was an Isleys fan. No, not at the Wheel.

. Me and Swish started going to nighters at exactly the same time and between us we might still have a few brain cells working if not all.. Joy Lovejoy, no way at the Wheel..first played at Hernies..loads more examples..I think as myself and Swish have recently been discussing, there are one or two people re-arranging their heritage on here.

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Posted

I got to join Swish on this although maybe one or two of the titles mentioned were Wheel tunes, not all those..Also 'Ghost In My House' in the 60's on Motown Memories 2 '!!! sorry mate..not having that.

Also, Just a Rumour' may well be on a 67' LP

Bbut it wasnt played until early 70's..an old mate of mine who was a Wheel regular long before me, always loved 'Why When Love Is Gone' and when he heard Rumour on returning to the scene a few years back couldnt believe it. He'd never heard of it til then..and he was an Isleys fan. No, not at the Wheel.

. Me and Swish started going to nighters at exactly the same time and between us we might still have a few brain cells working if not all.. Joy Lovejoy, no way at the Wheel..first played at Hernies..loads more examples..I think as myself and Swish have recently been discussing, there are one or two people re-arranging their heritage on here.

certainly was on it mate!! https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTOWN-MEMORIES-VOL-2-RARE-MOTOWN-TML-11077-/150536155039?pt=UK_Records&hash=item230ca76f9f

Posted

I got to join Swish on this although maybe one or two of the titles mentioned were Wheel tunes, not all those..Also 'Ghost In My House' in the 60's on Motown Memories 2 '!!! sorry mate..not having that.

Also, Just a Rumour' may well be on a 67' LP

Bbut it wasnt played until early 70's..an old mate of mine who was a Wheel regular long before me, always loved 'Why When Love Is Gone' and when he heard Rumour on returning to the scene a few years back couldnt believe it. He'd never heard of it til then..and he was an Isleys fan. No, not at the Wheel.

. Me and Swish started going to nighters at exactly the same time and between us we might still have a few brain cells working if not all.. Joy Lovejoy, no way at the Wheel..first played at Hernies..loads more examples..I think as myself and Swish have recently been discussing, there are one or two people re-arranging their heritage on here.

A local record shop had loads of British Motown and Soul albums for sale in the late sixties. I purchased many including Motown Memories 1 and 2, Edwin Starr,Mitch Ryder, Impressions, Shirley Ellis, Jay & The Techniques, Stevie Wonder, Collections of Motown Big Hits etc. I Was not really into sending off for stuff in them days apart from the odd one.

Most of these had at least one track that was played at the local Soul Club which played many of the sounds Brian listed, and I used to play uptempo tracks off these albums to like minded mates at the local youth club.I was expanding my knowledge ( and theirs ) of the music we were into, and hence that was why I was aware of You Ought To Be In Heaven and Ghost In My House. and stated that others may have played these in other surroundings at the that time.

I think the first time I heard Tell Me It's Just A Rumour was at the Compass Club around 1973 but dare say was aired earlier, and got to admit I had not heard a number of Brian's list until around the Torch days, but without going to the Wheel, I can only go with what Brian says.

My heritage came from older mates letting me play their Soul stuff at the youth club 67/8, buying my own records and going with my mates to soul nights in Scunthorpe, then to the Attic at Doncaster.

Do not want to re-arrange it, in the words of Chris Clark- Just want to go back there again.

Steve

Guest JIM BARRY
Posted

All these were discovered later as well;

JOY LOVEYOY IN ORBIT

JACKIE WILSON DARKEST DAYS

BOB WILSON IF IT FEELS GOOD

VAN MORRISON DOMINO

BABARA MILLS QUEEN OF FOOLS

VERNON GARRETT IF I COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME

CHUBBY CHECKER JUST DONT KNOW

LOU JOHNSON UNSATISFIED

DENISE LASALLE LOVE REPUTATION

CHUCK JACKSON GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT

THE VONTASTICS LADY LOVE

like the earlier poster said brian was the main d.j at the wheel, and also sold a lot of records that were broken at the torch. its obvious to me that he has just put all the memories of those tunes together, it was 40 years ago after all.

Guest proudlove
Posted (edited)

Brian 45 Philips was a DJ at the Wheel.

Swish.............If I had known that you had never met him I would have introduced you to him at the Torch mate,he was sat at our table.

Steve.

Edited by proudlove
Posted

well I'll be damned!! I never realised that. I believe I owe an apology... But, I dont think it was played out until much later..

played in quite a few places around the Birmingham area as was a lot of stuff generally regarded as being first played at the Wheel, the UK is quite a big place and it cant possibly be true. And to say stuff was never played at this and that venue is bo***** because how can any one possibly say they went to every occasion said venue was on and being in there from start to finish and actually remember what was played and not played. bloody impossible.

Posted

Brian 45 Philips was a DJ at the Wheel.

Swish.............If I had known that you had never met him I would have introduced you to him at the Torch mate,he was sat at our table.

Steve.

Swish met Brian - without him knowing it - at our get together in October , for they were both in a group of gentlemen nattering away downstairs at The Ryan Hall .

Malc

Posted

Not sure how to post links but if you look on the Wheel website there are lists and label scans of played tunes , many of the disputed tunes are on these lists .

Quite suprised really a lot of stuff I thought were Torch or Casino discoveries turn up , must have been brilliant hearing them for the first time .

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Posted (edited)

Not sure how to post links but if you look on the Wheel website there are lists and label scans of played tunes , many of the disputed tunes are on these lists .

Quite suprised really a lot of stuff I thought were Torch or Casino discoveries turn up , must have been brilliant hearing them for the first time .

In the months prior to the closure of The Wheel , many of the tunes played had a limited number of outings .

This meant that they were aired again to a new audience at the all - nighters that followed it like The Junction and the Torch , where many attendees assumed them to be new records .

Malc

Edited by Malc Burton
Posted (edited)

Phil,

If I get some time will list hundreds that are not on the cds but will have to do it in a series of posts because it may take some time.

Hope thats some help.

Regards

Brian

Hi there Brian, if you are MR BRIAN 45 PHILLIPS, then I must thank you for some brilliant sounds I bought from you in 1973/74 from your incredible lists.

Just off the top of my head (still got em too):

MORRIS CHESTNUT - TOO DARN SOULFUL (AMY DEMO) £10 (weeks wages)

AL WILSON - HELP ME (WAND DEMO) £7

BOBBY WILLIAMS - ONLY GOT MYSELF TO BLAME (SURESHOT DEMO) £5

ART WHEELER - THATS HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU (CEEJAM DEMO) £5

plus many many more....

I had the Morris Chestnut BEFORE it got big, in fact I used to lend it John Vincent to play.

I had it pressed here in Sheffield with Linda Jones on b side and sold about 10 copies at Wigan one night....:thumbup:

Me and my best buddy Mopsey turned up at your house on route from VA-Va's one saturday too to buy some.

What an unbelivable list you ran then mate, all the best ,

CHRIS BROOKE

Edited by SOULFULHOUND
Posted

In the months prior to the closure of The Wheel , many of the tunes played had a limited number of outings .

This meant that they were aired again to a new audience at the all - nighters that followed it like The Junction and the Torch , where many attendees assumed them to be new records .

Malc

As a raw nighter recruit in 1971 my first venue, approx 9 months after the Wheel shut was (as I've said before) The L'ambassadeur in Bradford.

The sounds played as far as I recollect were virtually all old Wheel sounds, and apart from Ric Tic and Mirwood stuff,

were played predominantly on British copies. The lads who DJ'ed were all old Wheel regulars.

When the Junction/Torch came on stream' I believe there was a major infux

of new kids onto the scene, in fact by the time of the Torch the new kids considerably

outnumbered the old Wheel crew.Plus many Wheel regulars I knew never made the transition to the Torch.

There was also a certain elitism, not by all I hasten to add, regarding those who had been

to the wheel and those who had not, understandable I suppose.

Imported records were not a major part of playlists until 72/73 when Bradford Market, F.L.Moores and a few

others started bringing container loads over from the states.This meant that, since the British record catalogue had been fairly well trawled,

there were few new discoveries between the Wheel closing and the Torch opening apart from what was happening

at the Mecca, but the Mecca wasnt an all nighter.

I also remember that prior to Bradford Market, when record hunting, it was always in

little shops that didnt have an import amongst the thousand in the racks.

So I agree with Malc that most of the records at the Torch were new to most of the kids attending, wherever they had been played

before.

It is a bit of surprise to me though that "Tell Me Its Just A Rumour" was available before the MFP LP and that

"Ghost In My House" was played out prior to it being found on a 45.

I think that people need to realise the Scene in those days was relatively small (less than 500 regulars ?)

compared to the Wigan (best disco in the world) days. Therefore what was played where and by whom is always gonna be

a contentious issue. Small venues that were not nighters and may have done mid week nights could have played

all sorts of stuff, but it was not until it was played at the Wheel that it became a Sound.

On the Imports theme "Babay Reconsider" was a complete anomaly.

Definately a Wheel record and still rare as rocking horse shit.

Kegsy

Posted (edited)

SWISH,

I don't know what your'e on but I'd go and get it checked out.

You obviously didn't go to the Wheel unless you went to the last one with ten thousand others( I wasn't there then)

I don't know where to start but lets have a go.

I have made one mistake on the list Barbara Lyn- Take your love and run THE REST 100% got played plus lots more.

I didn't mention Sandi Sheldon because it on the CD's and if you read the post I said I would avoid them already listed.

All but 1 0r 2 I played personally.

Out on the floor was played at the Cats, Chateau and the Wheel from 69 onwards.

Domino played as a new release,Queen of fools, I hurt on the other side (until I left),Darkest Days,Unsatisfied,Love reputation,Feels Good,your'e loosing me,Good things come to those who wait, In orbit,Sufferin' City and You ought to be in heaven were all big tunes at the Wheel.

A lot of the others you dispute Lady love, heartbeat, picture me gone,Invitation and few more were clasic tunes played from re lease and less so later on.

Robertr Banks, Fireman and The Kelly brothers I played quite a bit were never that big.

This is the thanks I get, The drifter and few more I played the last half hour.

Williams and Watson and Isley Brothers(I'm pretty sure) Phil Saxe played of the album (we didn't know at that time is was out on OKEH) I had left by then September 1970

The Adlibs Dave Godin brought down.

All but The Adlibs,Isley Brothers Joy lovejoy, please let me in and Darkest Days I had in my collection when I left so a lot didn't get played afterwards from September 1970 onwards.

I also had just got Emanuel Laskey and Moses Smith from a deal I done in May but didn't get until September so they got played on my last night.

Regarding CD's I don't recolect Bobby Paris or The Vibrations being played.

THE PEOPLE WHO TOLD YOU THEY DISCOVERED WHATEVER ARE FULL OF SHIT.

NO REARANGING HERITAGE OR DODGY 40 YEAR OLD MEMORIES

Edited by bri. phill

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