Unacceptable Allnighters

[ImberBoy]

Unacceptable Allnighters

The mental tick list of wants

If this thread turns into a personal attack on promoters then please delete

I thought it important to write that top bit because some times these things get highly charged and I want to keep the thread aimed fairly and squarely at the punters rather than give a platform to the venue organizers who may be tempted to get into the "Mines better than yours", sorry if that sounds crass.

Right to the point then.....................

I personally no longer pay much attention to flyers, I'm more often than not disappointed with what I expect and what's actually on offer that I now days rely totally on word of mouth, there is a down side to this of course and that is for new venues.

I think I must clarify that I am talking about the allnighters rather than the soul nights, I think there are different facets to both and I want to concentrate firstly on the Nighters.

An old pal of mine used to bang on that "It's only a night out", this is quite true, I don't take things too seriously, never personally but I am aware of the effort and investment needed to do a Nighter that may be some distance away so I am expecting, no demanding a few things.

Here is my tick list..........

Right from the off I want a full Nighter, I am not going to travel for one of those "Mini Allnighters" and I want the do to finish as near to 0800hrs as possible, I draw the line at 0600hrs but I don't like it.

The venue has to have a dance floor that's danceable, not an assault course full of obstacles such as holes, loose flooring and anything else that seams designed to dump me on my bum, I can do that my self!

Talc, I have no intention what so ever in visiting a venue that doesn't allow talc, you can tell me that the roof is low, there is humidity and for my safety I can't use talc, I never missed a Canklow in Rotherham and there the floor was like a ice rink, I want to make the choice, not you!

CD's, if you are playing anything other than a new release or some thing unavailable on wax then tell me before I travel, I aint coming to pay for silver shiny things unless the venue is well advertised or it's a charity event and the play policy is published in advance.

Alcohol, I have no problems with sensible drinkers but I don't want young kids spilling their drinks on the dance floor nor do I want the "Did you call my pint a puff" brigade.

Security staff, I know my bag is going to be searched, I know you are doing a thankless job but I want to be treated like a gentleman and I will treat you like a gentleman, unless of course you are massive ten you can treat me what ever the way you feel but please don't hurt me!

A sensible, inspiring (I know I am going to get it for this) DJ line up, I want to see some unknowns but if I am paying premiere money I want the premiere league and not Uncle Bill with his box of records.

Punters, I suppose I want my comfort zone and I want to see some faces I recognise to assure me that my choice has been the right one as far as venue is concerned? Yup I know that the further I stray from the cradle of The M62 the less well known faces I will see and I may even meet one of those cockney types?

Music, I have no problem with oldies and I have no problem with new spins, I have no problem with RnB and I have no problem with Modern, I love Soul! I do how ever want a bit of imagination from the DJ, I don't want to stare at an empty dance floor all night yet I know that a new sound may thin the dancers, I will be there making my own mind up and if there is a good crowd they will usually give some thing new or seldom played, a decent chance. I want to celebrate along with the DJ and allow them to point the way rather than nudge me along.

I know the music is a very personal thing so lets not get ambushed with this, there are other threads and I am fearful of this getting high jacked.

The wow factor, I want to go or meet up with the friends I have made and drive home thinking that I will return.

I think that's my wish list?

What's yours?

[Guest Brett F]

To be honest i don't do that many nighters anymore, i have had my fill come 2 am.

Edited April 18, 2010 by Brett F

[Ian Parker]

Unacceptable Allnighters

Security staff, I know my bag is going to be searched, I know you are doing a thankless job but I want to be treated like a gentleman and I will treat you like a gentleman, unless of course you are massive ten you can treat me what ever the way you feel but please don't hurt me!

hmmmmm, i could name one place that hired THUGS , no other word for them....

hint: 'Mercy' by Duffy was on the playlist

[Guest]

No people who make lists !!!!

[Dave Pinch]

To be honest i don't do that many nighters anymore, i have had my fill come 2 am.

yep same here.. i do agree with pretty much all simon has said but an 8pm to 2 am is about my barrow these days. i am still partial to the afternoon session and the odd weekender and allnighter mind

dave

Edited April 18, 2010 by dave pinch

[Rotherham Soul]

I never missed a Canklow in Rotherham and there the floor was like a ice rink

Apart from that night it snowed ,when the dancefloor finshed up looking like a cross between the Somme and Derby County's Baseball Ground

[Mace]

I wish every allnighter was cancelled for the rest of 2010.

At least that would put a stop to all the moans,groans and 'wish lists' type threads that have been dominating this site for the last week or so.

Fcukin' sad state of affairs if you ask me.........

[Wiggyflat]

I wish every allnighter was cancelled for the rest of 2010.

At least that would put a stop to all the moans,groans and 'wish lists' type threads that have been dominating this site for the last week or so.

Fcukin' sad state of affairs if you ask me.........

As long as the Northern Soul Allnighters don't get cancelled.What's wrong in looking for the type of venue and music that suits your particular taste??.I'm still looking for my ideal venue although I found what I liked at Marton Manor in Middlesborough.Good crowd, friendly promoter, cheap drink (no broken glasses/spilt drink),deejays who were deejays and know how to programme music,hardly any talc (thank god...some of the people I have seen put talc down aint Wayne Sleep or Olga Corbett).I'm looking for somewhere else similar maybe closer. I'm not asking or much in music either. The basic Northern soul template ie late sixties and seventies with a smattering of newies in there in the same style to keep it progressing.I have loads of nights near me that advertise rare soul ie popcorn, midtempo,r&b but I will travel to hear the stuff I want to hear.It's not moaning and groaning.It's not just oldies either.It seems you get placed in the baggies oldies camp if you want to go out and hear sixties/seventies uptempo northern....with similar newies in there as well.I don't want to travel miles for a soul night when they are on my doorstep but I will travel for a good northern soul night/niter with good facilities/cheap bar and friendly people. BTW thanks to the people who replied on my last thread.I got some pointers.I was on the verge of posting up my playbox to emphasise what I was trying to get over but the thread was closed.I nearly got to the Barhouse in Chelmsford last night but the Gravesend ferry stopped at 7.30 so had to sack it.I will have to check out the Rochester gig as I'm there every second saturday.As I said promoters who went out their way to fire me friendly PM's and were honest about what the music policy is.

Edited April 18, 2010 by wiggyflat

[Ezzie Brown]

WELL .........I FOR ONE AM LOOKING FORWARD TO LIFELINE BIDDS AND BARNSLEY...................TO GET SOME GREAT MUSIC WITH GREAT FOLK IN A SUITABLY DARK GLOOMY ENVIRONMENT.........NONE PERFECT..........BUT THEY WILL DO ME........SEE YA THERE !!!!! EZZIE

[Wiggyflat]

I'm sure I will find somewhere.........without the use of a tardis.

Edited April 18, 2010 by wiggyflat

[Ezzie Brown]

As long as the Northern Soul Allnighters don't get cancelled.What's wrong in looking for the type of venue and music that suits your particular taste??.I'm still looking for my ideal venue although I found what I liked at Marton Manor in Middlesborough.Good crowd, friendly promoter, cheap drink (no broken glasses/spilt drink),deejays who were deejays and know how to programme music,hardly any talc (thank god...some of the people I have seen put talc down aint Wayne Sleep or Olga Corbett).I'm looking for somewhere else similar maybe closer. I'm not asking or much in music either. The basic Northern soul template ie late sixties and seventies with a smattering of newies in there in the same style to keep it progressing.I have loads of nights near me that advertise rare soul ie popcorn, midtempo,r&b but I will travel to hear the stuff I want to hear.It's not moaning and groaning.It's not just oldies either.It seems you get placed in the baggies oldies camp if you want to go out and hear sixties/seventies uptempo northern....with similar newies in there as well.I don't want to travel miles for a soul night when they are on my doorstep but I will travel for a good northern soul night/niter with good facilities/cheap bar and friendly people. BTW thanks to the people who replied on my last thread.I got some pointers.I was on the verge of posting up my playbox to emphasise what I was trying to get over but the thread was closed.I nearly got to the Barhouse in Chelmsford last night but the Gravesend ferry stopped at 7.30 so had to sack it.I will have to check out the Rochester gig as I'm there every second saturday.As I said promoters who went out their way to fire me friendly PM's and were honest about what the music policy is.

get that playlist up bro ...................

regards ezzie

[good angel]

Imberboy(The Snake)Simon,

I totally agee with your way of thinking.

Are you coming to Lifeline,Then?

Kev.

[ImberBoy]

Imberboy(The Snake)Simon,

I totally agee with your way of thinking.

Are you coming to Lifeline,Then?

Kev.

I'll Be There

[good angel]

I'll Be There

I have a Newcastle brown then.

Kev

Edited April 18, 2010 by good angel

[Guest 1STFRIEARL]

Remember the Canklow floor being a skating rink also the toilets left alot to the imagination no lights at one time. But the music and company more than made up for these probs.

Empress ballroom Mexborough, s649jb, 24th April main room Brian rae, Col Denham, Gas Simom

Alternate Room Bri & Dave Pinches, John Durant, Gas Simon, Col Denham

Plus Resident dj,s John Hinchliffe, Cheryl Temple

[Wiggyflat]

get that playlist up bro ...................

regards ezzie

Its easier if I photo it and post it up like I do on the collecting British Thread. There must be somewhere that plays this sort of stuff or similar without the r&b,popcorn,latin, slowies in the middle of the night.

[Dave Pinch]

I never missed a Canklow in Rotherham and there the floor was like a ice rink

Apart from that night it snowed ,when the dancefloor finshed up looking like a cross between the Somme and Derby County's Baseball Ground

i remember that.the floor polish ,snow and talc never jelled for some reason this particular night

dave

[hullsoul]

What more can i ask for..........The Wilton is only an hour away from me.

The way I choose is see who's djing & go from there.Know your dj's know your night.I can go anywhere as long as my mates are there.

Cheers

Martyn

Edited April 18, 2010 by hullsoul

[KevH]

Its easier if I photo it and post it up like I do on the collecting British Thread. There must be somewhere that plays this sort of stuff or similar without the r&b,popcorn,latin, slowies in the middle of the night.

Hey Wiggy,nice scans of some great crossover tunes amongst the uptempo Northern.There must be somewhere that plays this kind of stuff - but for the life of me can't think where................

[Wiggyflat]

Hey Wiggy,nice scans of some great crossover tunes amongst the uptempo Northern.There must be somewhere that plays this kind of stuff - but for the life of me can't think where................

What are the crossover tunes then.I stuck 1 or 2 enders in there and the rest are seventies and sixties uptempo stuff.

Edited April 18, 2010 by wiggyflat

[Ezzie Brown]

Its easier if I photo it and post it up like I do on the collecting British Thread. There must be somewhere that plays this sort of stuff or similar without the r&b,popcorn,latin, slowies in the middle of the night.

some nice tunes..........i commend you on your effort!!!!!!! had the e lasky once......................great oldie........suprised that there are so many crossover style things tho... wilton calling i would say..............regards ezzie

[KevH]

What are the crossover tunes then.I stuck 1 or 2 enders in there and the rest are seventies and sixties uptempo stuff.

This is, imo, the where categorising of soul falls apart.

JJ BARNES,SUNDAY,SANDRA RICHARDSON,GWEN OWENS,COLLINS & COLLINS,MARBOO,DAVID RHODES,LIFE.

Some class oldies in there.Uptempo - yes.Traditional Northern that gets plays at NS venues - no.

Edited April 18, 2010 by KevH

[Guest Matt Male]

Its easier if I photo it and post it up like I do on the collecting British Thread. There must be somewhere that plays this sort of stuff or similar without the r&b,popcorn,latin, slowies in the middle of the night.

Get yourself along to Nuneaton co-op in June, you'll love it.

[Soulcarp]

i remember that.the floor polish ,snow and talc never jelled for some reason this particular night

dave

never had a bad night allways a great crowd music good,most where nighter crowd happy days,ho the night it snowed took me ages to get out of the carpark johno

[Dazdakin]

Right from the off I want a full Nighter, I am not going to travel for one of those "Mini Allnighters" and I want the do to finish as near to 0800hrs as possible, I draw the line at 0600hrs but I don't like it.

Absolutely spot on here!!

Definition of an allnighter as was and should still be!! Start time no earlier than 11:30pm and finish at 08:00 no earlier or later. I too dislike these extended soul nights or mini nighters as they have become known. As a scene we have always been different from any other social music event, its what set / sets us apart from all the other dross thats about. Your 02:00 finish is reserved for the Shaz and Kaz types.

I maybe as we all are getting older but i have no wanting to be tucked up in bed at a sensible time to enable me to be up bright and early to see what the new day brings............fuck that!! Middle aged has made me feel no older in myself and i still act as though i am in my twenties.

And if i could add one more wish on the wish list it would be that in the summer months with daytime coming at around 03:45 i can remember when promoters got this and used to black out any daylight coming into the nighter and killing the whole concept really by placing black bin liners or anything to hand over the said windows in order to stop this from happening...ie: The Fleet/Parr Hall/Leisure Center/Clifton Hall they all did it.

Bring it back!!............please!

[Hornet]

the venue is all important ie empress ballroom ,a balcony is a must, no bright lights,fancy mirrors or endless corridors,NO TALC except under arm pits, a place to doss at 4-30 when the body refuses to stomp any more, 2 rooms plus 8 hours their must be summit 4 every f@@ker , oh im quite a dab hand at spraying my own pits so no creepy dudes lurking in the bogs with left over fathers day smellies

[pikeys dog]

i remember that.the floor polish ,snow and talc never jelled for some reason this particular night

dave

Remember that night well.

I took my Doc Martens off, took my socks off, then put the boots back on with my socks over the top -

Hey presto, instant grip & a mopping action whilst dancing...

[Dolly13]

Unacceptable Allnighters

Security staff, I know my bag is going to be searched, I know you are doing a thankless job but I want to be treated like a gentleman and I will treat you like a gentleman, unless of course you are massive ten you can treat me what ever the way you feel but please don't hurt me!

I would always treat you like a gentleman....

[ImberBoy]

I would always treat you like a gentleman....

Dolly you said that I had camel toe one night!

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

some interesting record scans.

I expect i want an all nighter cause Peterborough no longer does have them, most of them here at 7.30 - 1.00 say. but i would be happy to attend at least 1 or 2 a year where i can arrive at 8.00 and come home about 5.00/6.00 cause that's when i do get tired to finish the last hour or 2.

i also expect tunes to be mixed and know that some DJ's might sway towards a style but i be ok with that i don't mean 1 dj does all modern then next one dj does all oldies just a dj if they are mostly for say modern then be ok if they play a few oldies and rest being modern.

lastly i expect i go to many venues based on fact i will know the people there.

[Ady Croasdell]

So you'll never visit the 100 Club again 'cause the management won't allow talc! Very sad (in the traditional sense) Simon.

[Ezzie Brown]

im not sure what the fuss about talc is ???????????? get some decent shoes .........stead of trainers with mountaineering soles on um......might help ya dance............ez

[barney]

im not sure what the fuss about talc is ???????????? get some decent shoes .........stead of trainers with mountaineering soles on um......might help ya dance............ez

simon usually wears palestinian pitboots (sandals)

[Wally Francis]

As long as the Northern Soul Allnighters don't get cancelled.What's wrong in looking for the type of venue and music that suits your particular taste??.I'm still looking for my ideal venue although I found what I liked at Marton Manor in Middlesborough.Good crowd, friendly promoter, cheap drink (no broken glasses/spilt drink),deejays who were deejays and know how to programme music,hardly any talc (thank god...some of the people I have seen put talc down aint Wayne Sleep or Olga Corbett).I'm looking for somewhere else similar maybe closer. I'm not asking or much in music either. The basic Northern soul template ie late sixties and seventies with a smattering of newies in there in the same style to keep it progressing.I have loads of nights near me that advertise rare soul ie popcorn, midtempo,r&b but I will travel to hear the stuff I want to hear.It's not moaning and groaning.It's not just oldies either.It seems you get placed in the baggies oldies camp if you want to go out and hear sixties/seventies uptempo northern....with similar newies in there as well.I don't want to travel miles for a soul night when they are on my doorstep but I will travel for a good northern soul night/niter with good facilities/cheap bar and friendly people. BTW thanks to the people who replied on my last thread.I got some pointers.I was on the verge of posting up my playbox to emphasise what I was trying to get over but the thread was closed.I nearly got to the Barhouse in Chelmsford last night but the Gravesend ferry stopped at 7.30 so had to sack it.I will have to check out the Rochester gig as I'm there every second saturday.As I said promoters who went out their way to fire me friendly PM's and were honest about what the music policy is.

Thanks very much for the positive comments with regards to the night we run at The Marton Country Club in Middlesbrough, although it's not an all nighter our aim is to please the paying punter first and foremost, we try to give them what they want and as i've said before if a dj is playing to an empty floor he's not doing the job he's being paid to do and that's to entertain people. We pick people to play who we know are going to please the paying public as we all go to these night's to enjoy the music and dance and hopefully bump into friends old and new.

We must be doing it right as we get crowds of over 400 regular now.

Edited April 19, 2010 by Wally

[barney]

here ya go simon,s palestinian pitboots

Edited April 19, 2010 by barney

[ImberBoy]

Ady banning talc from The 100 Club would not stop me visiting such a prestigious event, am I going back on my words, yes!

Mental note to self, "Don't be such a dick when on the key board"

The South Yorkshire Soul Searchers are 0ne million percent visiting the 100 Club, talc or no talc.

Kinel Barney, what are you doing with a picture of my feet?

[barney]

Ady banning talc from The 100 Club would not stop me visiting such a prestigious event, am I going back on my words, yes!

Mental note to self, "Don't be such a dick when on the key board"

The South Yorkshire Soul Searchers are 0ne million percent visiting the 100 Club, talc or no talc.

Kinel Barney, what are you doing with a picture of my feet?

I have a foot fetish NOT

[Guest Phoenix8049]

I'm sure I will find somewhere.........without the use of a tardis.

Wiggy have you got room for 2 in your tardis.

I mentioned this on another thread, you and i seem to be looking for the same venue.

Stu.

[Guest JimSLH]

here ya go simon,s palestinian pitboots

That's Fecking Funny

[Guest JimSLH]

im not sure what the fuss about talc is ???????????? get some decent shoes .........stead of trainers with mountaineering soles on um......might help ya dance............ez

Totally agree I have me Leather Sole shoes for out Souling I can get by with out talc but I think Beer is far worse spilt on the dance floor