Where Can I Hear Traditional Northern

[Wiggyflat]

Following on from Webby's highly charged debate re R&B.I've looked at the flyer gallery and I've noticed Quality Soul, Rare Soul, Northern Soul,Popcorn, Latin etc etc.I did a night in London recently where it was advertised as Northern Soul ie uptempo sixties/seventies dance music.Not necessarily oldies.Can anyone point me in the direction of similar nights around the UK.I don't want this to get into a slanging match re oldies....vests/bags/bootlegs CD's versus Rare soul....midtempo,popcorn, r&b,doo wop etc.I do go to rare soul nights and do enjoy them for what they are but I would like to get out to more Northern Soul Nights around the UK that play originals and lots of new sounds in a similar style and don't playlist r&b,ska,popcorn etc as there are at least 3 or 4 of these type of gigs I visit in London.

[vince ayres]

Following on from Webby's highly charged debate re R&B.I've looked at the flyer gallery and I've noticed Quality Soul, Rare Soul, Northern Soul,Popcorn, Latin etc etc.I did a night in London recently where it was advertised as Northern Soul ie uptempo sixties/seventies dance music.Not necessarily oldies.Can anyone point me in the direction of similar nights around the UK.I don't want this to get into a slanging match re oldies....vests/bags/bootlegs CD's versus Rare soul....midtempo,popcorn, r&b,doo wop etc.I do go to rare soul nights and do enjoy them for what they are but I would like to get out to more Northern Soul Nights around the UK that play originals and lots of new sounds in a similar style and don't playlist r&b,ska,popcorn etc as there are at least 3 or 4 of these type of gigs I visit in London.

come to the uni in bournemouth tomorrow i guarantee that will be a great night and im not the promoter before you ask

[Guest Bearsy]

what do you mean by traditional Northern Soul, not being funny cos i aint really got a clue what that is

[Reg]

mmm. Stoke Kings Hall?

[Wiggyflat]

what do you mean by traditional Northern Soul, not being funny cos i aint really got a clue what that is

Uptempo late sixties soul and seventies stuff.No R&B,Latin,jazz,mid tempo,popcorn.I usually get a clue if its advertised as Rare Soul then I expect Latin, R&b,mid tempo etc and if it's Northern soul I would expect the late sixties uptempo stuff with seventies but it does get confusing.

[mischief]

what do you mean by traditional Northern Soul, not being funny cos i aint really got a clue what that is

Its all that shi* you keep buying....

I'm with Vince on this... Bournemouth tomorrow night... is always across the board..

nothing set in stone... just where the dancers want it to go...

[Wiggyflat]

mmm. Stoke Kings Hall?

Yeah done Stoke but they are mostly oldies events.Is there anywhere similar who programme new stuff n a similar style amongst the oldies.

[mischief]

Uptempo late sixties soul and seventies stuff.No R&B,Latin,jazz,mid tempo,popcorn.I usually get a clue if its advertised as Rare Soul then I expect Latin, R&b,mid tempo etc and if it's Northern soul I would expect the late sixties uptempo stuff with seventies but it does get confusing.

Take that back about bournemouth... they like to play across the board for everyone...

like most do's I suppose....

[Reg]

Yeah done Stoke but they are mostly oldies events.Is there anywhere similar who programme new stuff n a similar style amongst the oldies.

See I got stuck when you said just northern and all uptempo. Most the nights I know like that do play a bit of other stuff.

[Wiggyflat]

Its all that shi* you keep buying....

I'm with Vince on this... Bournemouth tomorrow night... is always across the board..

nothing set in stone... just where the dancers want it to go...

Come on no personal insults.I don't want the thread closed down!!

[Reg]

See I got stuck when you said just northern and all uptempo. Most the nights I know like that do play a bit of other stuff.

Lowton possibly? They have a oldies/cross the board room plus a separate rarer room?

[mischief]

Come on no personal insults.I don't want the thread closed down!!

Not a personal insult... it is what Bearsy buys.... ask him

[Wiggyflat]

Take that back about bournemouth... they like to play across the board for everyone...

like most do's I suppose....

Went to Marton Manor last xmas in Middlesbrough. This was my type of night.Pure uptempo northern and quality seventies all night.There must be other places.

[Reg]

Where abouts are you thinking wiggy?

Or are you not bothered about travelling?

[Wiggyflat]

Lowton possibly? They have a oldies/cross the board room plus a separate rarer room?

What is across the board.......does it mean everything inc r&b,popcorn latin etc though and does the rarer room mean midtempo.I already visit these style of venues if thats what across the board/rare room means.Are there any venues that nail their music to the mast ie NORTHERN SOUL where you can go and know what you are getting ie uptempo late sixties and seventies.As I said Marton Manor did it for me I wonder if there are other places with the same music policy.

[Wiggyflat]

Where abouts are you thinking wiggy?

Or are you not bothered about travelling?

Not bothered about travelling....and would prefer niters but dont want to get somewhere where I've been told its Northern Soul and find I'm at a rare soul gig which I could have had in London.....ie glad someone put me straight about Bournemouth that they do programme pocorn/r&b etc.I want a full on night of uptempo sixties/seventies.

[ImberBoy]

Come on Wiggyflat this thread is like a red rag to a bull!

When you say "Traditional Northernsoul" do you mean "Wigan Casino Revival" stuff? I think you have to be a little bit more specific than giving such a broad brush description because the term "Traditional" will be open to interpretations that are always going to cause heated debate; I kinda suspect you know this already?

If you want traditional Northernsoul that is served up as quality and danced and enjoyed by some top people in a magnificent setting then Blackpool at the end of the year for a weekender or Stoke. I love the spectacle and enjoy every minute of the dos with great friends and an atmosphere that's hard to beat.

There are loads of people who dress in the classic casino style and don't take them selves too serious, there are loads of people who travel vast distances for Stoke and to be honest if you are really looking for traditional Northernsoul then this is the place to be.

Most Allnighters up and down the country offer their own slant on rare soul and if you are looking for traditional Northernsoul then keep away from the Allnighter Scene coz it's a long way from the Snake or the Lambrini.

I can't believe I'm falling for this wind up!

[Guest Bearsy]

Come on no personal insults.I don't want the thread closed down!!

Dont worry about Mischief thats actually a compliment from him

Solid Hit Soul in London is a must and to be honest there aint many venues that like to keep it mainly uptempo all night, SAYING THAT, Groovesville in Bedford, Move On in the midlands and many more to name too, but its also about knowing your djs i guess and you obviously know these anyway, looking back through Lookbacks and seeing playlists and of course asking on here you should get many good response and ideas,

ps, Mischief plays wishy washy disco drollful tunes so avoid him like the plague

[Guest kent soul club]

Kent Soul Club tommorrow night. And I am the promoter before you ask.

We do play across the board, but the guests we've got tommorrow will suit your tastes I reckon, with Steve Clegg being very into his crossover/early modern dancers. And Dave KD loves his female lead vocal, grittier than motown sounds.

Bunny plays out and out stompers, and so do I , though I am leaning a bit more towards RnB, but nothing too rock'n'rollie, if you know what I mean.

I think everyones take on what traditional Northern Soul is will be different - to me I think it would be oldies.

If you do come, introduce yourself to me and tell me what you think, if not enjoy wherever you go

ATB, Magoo

[Guest kent soul club]

Eagerly awaiting Bearsys pearls of wisdom!!

[mischief]

ps, Mischief plays wishy washy disco drollful tunes so avoid him like the plague

Told ya... todays wishy washy is tomorrows classic... when it goes up in price...

I think Wiggy has got us all at it...

looked at the do he promoted on here..

An across the board deejay lineup

Wiggy... your do you promoted was across the board....

[Guest sarahleen]

Yes a "full on night of uptempo 60s AND 70s " and i agree NORTHERN SOUL is not just about the classic oldies (a lie told by some frankly ) . Im confused too . Im confused by all the labels and rooms. Why isnt it called OLDIES (in general any 60s, classic or not !) and NEWIES (in general any 70s). Great thread wiggy and im sure there a few are other people as baffled as me by the flyers

[Chalky]

Is this topic a p*ss take?

The very first flyer although gives no music policy there is a clue when they say Northern Soul, two of the next four say Northern Soul & Motown or Soul and Motown nights and surely everyone has a good idea what DJ plays what.

We also had a rather large discussion on across the board too!

[MarkWhiteley]

Yeah done Stoke but they are mostly oldies events.Is there anywhere similar who programme new stuff n a similar style amongst the oldies.

Surely 'programming new stuff' is hardly hand in glove with 'Traditional northern' or am I way off base

Confused

M.

[Guest Bearsy]

Eagerly awaiting Bearsys pearls of wisdom!!

dont eat yellow Snow Martin you keeping well matey

[Julie Moore]

If its traditional NORTHERN as in classic oldies youv`e no chance down in the smoke

[Harry Crosby]

https://yorksoultrain.webs.com/index.htm If your talking about mixing up the genres, this might be good for you, we try to cover everything. The wife diane [djdivadi] adds an hour hour of forward thinking 60`s soul music, all details in the link. playlists, photos etc plus theres a lovely little shopping centre for the missus, makes a nice weekend if your travelling

[Guest sarahleen]

And why when anyone asks a simple question are they accused of causing trouble . And why is the thread then closed down . Why does it feel like NORTHERN SOUL is a dirty word these days. Im not trying to cause trouble Im asking this on the verge of tears here .

[Wiggyflat]

Dont worry about Mischief thats actually a compliment from him

Solid Hit Soul in London is a must and to be honest there aint many venues that like to keep it mainly uptempo all night, SAYING THAT, Groovesville in Bedford, Move On in the midlands and many more to name too, but its also about knowing your djs i guess and you obviously know these anyway, looking back through Lookbacks and seeing playlists and of course asking on here you should get many good response and ideas,

ps, Mischief plays wishy washy disco drollful tunes so avoid him like the plague

I do go to Solid Hit Soul...a great night but they play across the board r&b,midtempo and a bit of latin etc.Theres about 3 of these gigs in London that are alike.I like them but I want late sixties uptempo and seventies..not an across the board mix.

[Ady Croasdell]

If its traditional NORTHERN as in classic oldies youv`e no chance down in the smoke

I beg to differ ma'am, 100 Club Xmas party and the Crossfire dos, though Wiggy probably didn't enjoy the recent one which was London Oldies.

It depends when you grew up and got into it, my first nights included records like Tony Clarke The Entertainer, The Platters Washed Ashore and an obscure Jimmy Radcliffe release called Long After Tonight Is All Over; so no one's gonna tell me that a sublime mid tempo Detroit track like Tobi Lark's Lots Of Heart that I'll play on Saturday at the 100 Club ain't Northern.

[Wiggyflat]

Surely 'programming new stuff' is hardly hand in glove with 'Traditional northern' or am I way off base

Confused

I mean newly discovered stuff in a similar style ie.......uptempo danceable stuff.I don't want to just hear the obvious sounds all night either.

M.

[Chalky]

And why when anyone asks a simple question are they accused of causing trouble . And why is the thread then closed down . Why does it feel like NORTHERN SOUL is a dirty word these days. Im not trying to cause trouble Im asking this on the verge of tears here .

no one has accused anyone of causing trouble, or if they did I didn't see that bit, I simply asked if the topic was a genuine request because to me it comes across as a bit of a p*ss take. The topic starter knows his stuff from previous discussions so to ask this question is a little puzzling. He also asked what is crossover when we've just had world war 3 over the very same question in another topic. I also went and looked at the flyer gallery and 3 of the first 5 said Northern Soul.

The majority of the venues in the north are oldies driven! Especially the midlands and north west.

So get thee sen a hanky and dry your eyes, why what is in this topic would make anyone shed tears is beyond me

[Guest sarahleen]

But crying isnt me. Julie thats the point wiggy is tryin to make . That is not a true description of NORTHERN SOUL

[Guest Bearsy]

I do go to Solid Hit Soul...a great night but they play across the board r&b,midtempo and a bit of latin etc.Theres about 3 of these gigs in London that are alike.I like them but I want late sixties uptempo and seventies..not an across the board mix.

in that case i think your never gonna find what you want if SHS dont do it for you, there aint a venue ive been to the last few years that dont play a bit of this and that and the one that did in my opinion get as close to what your after was SHS, if you do find this event then please let me know cos what your looking for is right up my street to i think

Burnley would of been a suggestion but thats finished now

[Guest kent soul club]

dont eat yellow Snow Martin you keeping well matey

Actually this sorbet has a bit of a tang to it! Yeah, I'm well. Hard up, but well

[Wiggyflat]

I beg to differ ma'am, 100 Club Xmas party and the Crossfire dos, though Wiggy probably didn't enjoy the recent one which was London Oldies.

It depends when you grew up and got into it, my first nights included records like Tony Clarke The Entertainer, The Platters Washed Ashore and an obscure Jimmy Radcliffe release called Long After Tonight Is All Over; so no one's gonna tell me that a sublime mid tempo Detroit track like Tobi Lark's Lots Of Heart that I'll play on Saturday at the 100 Club ain't Northern.

Adey had no problem with London oldies...it said London oldies on the tin so I knew what I was getting.If I didn't like it I wouldn't pay my £15 and go.I like Solid Hit Soul and Boogaloo as well but I just want to go to some venues where the majority of the music is uptempo sixties and seventies and I don't mean played on CD/The Top 500.As I have said I love R&B,Jazz,Punk all different forms of music but I went to Marton Manor in the north east and wondered if there were similar nights all over the UK.

[Guest Bearsy]

wiggy, does the 100 Club not do it for you then

[Guest kent soul club]

If its traditional NORTHERN as in classic oldies youv`e no chance down in the smoke

Oh, Julie!!

[Guest]

Go past the 3rd star on the right and carry on until morning

There you will find Never Never land where no one ever grows up and the music never changes

Edited April 16, 2010 by Guest

[mischief]

Wiggy (first name terms now )... you already promoted a do on here...

maybe this is your calling do the do that you want... if its what you want i'm sure others will want it as well...

and attend it and support it...

promote it as an uptempo night.... see what happens..

most of us probably got in to "northern" because of uptempo stuff any way..

[Guest sarahleen]

Yes ha! We have page after page of arguements and we STILL dont know what "crossover" is . You tell me . Is it modern , is it circa 1970s, is it jazz funk is it a cross over of genres . Lord we even debate over wether its spelt xover or not . Wiggy asked a simple question (like webby did) . And both have been accused of a having a hidden agenda . Excuse me if i get emotional while NORTHERN SOUL gets kicked to death people !

[Wiggyflat]

wiggy, does the 100 Club not do it for you then

I like the 100 Club.Started going in 86 but it was unique at the time playing rare soul,r&b,early mod sounds, mid tempo and out and out northern.The 100 Club type of night seems to have spawned loads of other similar sort of nights up and down the country but the 100 Club is still a few steps in front of the game.As I said there are about 2 or 3 in London at the moment similar that are great places but I just want a change. A place that is not necessarily only oldies either but who programme uptempo sixties and seventies.I'm not trying to be controversial...if I was I would be saying that is crap that is good.As I have said I was at Marton Manor up in the Boro at xmas and the music played was exactly up my street.I don't want this thread to get into a slanging match either.

Edited April 16, 2010 by wiggyflat

[KevH]

Someone pass me a rope.

[Guest Bearsy]

I like the 100 Club.Started going in 86 but it was unique at the time playing rare soul,r&b,early mod sounds, mid tempo and out and out northern.The 100 Club type of night seems to have spawned loads of other similar sort of nights up and down the country but the 100 Club is still a few steps in front of the game.As I said there are about 2 or 3 in London at the moment similar that are great places but I just want a change. A place that is not necessarily only oldies either but who programme uptempo sixties and seventies.I'm not trying to be controversial...if I was I would be saying that is crap that is good.As I have said I was at Marton Manor up in the Boro at xmas and the music played was exactly up my street.I don't want this thread to get into a slanging match either.

sorry if i come accross a bit slanging im not meaning to i am genuinely interested as i like i think the same as you and would love a night like it too, i just dont think your gonna find one but if you do let me know for me the 100 Club and SHS in London are as good as it gets and an equal to any "Northern do" in the Country

[Wiggyflat]

Told ya... todays wishy washy is tomorrows classic... when it goes up in price...

I think Wiggy has got us all at it...

looked at the do he promoted on here..

An across the board deejay lineup

Wiggy... your do you promoted was across the board....

I booked Roger Stuart who I thought was across the board (whatever it means) but he ended up playing a full set of traditional Northern Soul.I knew where I was with Ian Dewhirst(He played loads of seventies/cleethorpes/Mecca sounds).I played uptempo sixties and seventies.Think I will advertise the next as uptempo northern soul and seventies and leave it at that.What do you call records in the same style that are not oldies though?? and will people think its oldies/baggies and the top 500 and CD's.It used to be so simple...

Edited April 16, 2010 by wiggyflat

[Pete S]

Following on from Webby's highly charged debate re R&B.I've looked at the flyer gallery and I've noticed Quality Soul, Rare Soul, Northern Soul,Popcorn, Latin etc etc.I did a night in London recently where it was advertised as Northern Soul ie uptempo sixties/seventies dance music.Not necessarily oldies.Can anyone point me in the direction of similar nights around the UK.I don't want this to get into a slanging match re oldies....vests/bags/bootlegs CD's versus Rare soul....midtempo,popcorn, r&b,doo wop etc.I do go to rare soul nights and do enjoy them for what they are but I would like to get out to more Northern Soul Nights around the UK that play originals and lots of new sounds in a similar style and don't playlist r&b,ska,popcorn etc as there are at least 3 or 4 of these type of gigs I visit in London.

Never mind that, stop in and write me a list of 50 or so super obscure British things I should be looking for, I thought I knew pretty much everything til you posted those scans up.

p.s. I said I thought I had that "Circus" record on Parlophone, found it, and it's not that bad really!

[Julie Moore]

I beg to differ ma'am, 100 Club Xmas party and the Crossfire dos, though Wiggy probably didn't enjoy the recent one which was London Oldies.

It depends when you grew up and got into it, my first nights included records like Tony Clarke The Entertainer, The Platters Washed Ashore and an obscure Jimmy Radcliffe release called Long After Tonight Is All Over; so no one's gonna tell me that a sublime mid tempo Detroit track like Tobi Lark's Lots Of Heart that I'll play on Saturday at the 100 Club ain't Northern.

Oh Well pardon me Mr croasdell as ive never been to a 100 club xmas bash i do apolagise

and as for crossfire yes it does but they arn`t too regular i thought the question was where to find northern classics on a regular basis sorry my mistake

Regards julie x (ma`am)

[mischief]

It used to be so simple...

What do you call records in the same style that are not oldies though?

Good finds

right leaving work in a minute.. wiggy mate hope you find what your looking for.....

[Julie Moore]

Oh, Julie!!

Sorry martin

Dont mean to offend anyone

I was trying to make the point if the topic poster was looking for just ?.....................lets say wigan days (classic oldies all night ) he would be hard pushed to find it in the smoke don`t go trying to crusify me its omvho

[Guest proudlove]

Someone pass me a rope.

And me mate,and me........................but if this isn't a wind up.....................Get yourself down to the next Wheel All Nighter...............or the Torch Reunion

Steve