Posted April 14, 201015 yr whats the difference between the real and the bootleg ....both look the same i believe..and how much for original ...thanks in advance
April 14, 201015 yr On 14/04/2010 at 18:43, staceys dad said: whats the difference between the real and the bootleg ....both look the same i believe..and how much for original ...thanks in advance Quite hard to tell it's all in the run out groove mate. Orig also has fainter ink than the boot. I have both so I'll have a look. Orig rarely comes up for sale. Edited April 14, 201015 yr by Steve G
April 14, 201015 yr On 14/04/2010 at 18:50, Steve G said: Quite hard to tell it's all in the run out groove mate. Orig also has fainter ink than the boot. I have both so I'll have a look. Orig rarely comes up for sale. Is there still only 3 or 4 copies of this?
April 14, 201015 yr the orig is dog rare -there was a superb thread on this a while back re the authenticity issue -can someone kindly put it up-very good reading -the record has a deep soul record to die for [ONE OF THE BEST ON THE FLIP] -ill post it up!!! BAZ A
April 14, 201015 yr GWEN & RAY - IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD - BEE BEE 223 B - there you go folks one up for the deep soul possee lol!!! BAZ A
April 14, 201015 yr its as rare as rockin horse shit mate, a proper rare track. I would say with todays values around £2000
April 14, 201015 yr an old s.source link here, https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/84419-gwen-ray-build-your-house/page__p__905357__hl__Gwen%20And%20Ray__fromsearch__1entry905357
April 14, 201015 yr On 14/04/2010 at 19:00, baz atkinson said: GWEN & RAY - IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD - BEE BEE 223 B - there you go folks one up for the deep soul possee lol!!! BAZ A Great raw and low budget deep Anyone any clue who Gwen & Ray were, apart from being named Gwen & Ray of course. Did they go on to anything else under different names etc ? Ok, we've all got hard luck stories but I remember just missing this on Soul Bowl's list around 1975ish for £1.75 "Sorry it's gone" F--k!
April 14, 201015 yr Right orig has narrower run out groove, and actually looks like a 60s record with a flat edge. Unlike the pressing which has a wider run out and more rounded edges if that makes sense. Also orig has BB223 A in run out in v small letters, boot has BEE 223 A in run out in spread out larger letters. I'm an anorak right?Anyway hope that helps....Steve Edited April 14, 201015 yr by Steve G
April 14, 201015 yr I was in Baltimore with Tats and Bully around 15 years ago when one of 'em pulled a minter out of a back room in a Shopping mall. So I figure it can't be that difficult . Think I'll try my luck at Meadowhall in the mornin' Sean
April 14, 201015 yr On 14/04/2010 at 19:22, Arkwright said: Great raw and low budget deep Anyone any clue who Gwen & Ray were, apart from being named Gwen & Ray of course. Did they go on to anything else under different names etc ? Ok, we've all got hard luck stories but I remember just missing this on Soul Bowl's list around 1975ish for £1.75 "Sorry it's gone" F--k! gwen owens and ray winston
April 23, 201015 yr On 14/04/2010 at 20:11, Sean Hampsey said: I was in Baltimore with Tats and Bully around 15 years ago when one of 'em pulled a minter out of a back room in a Shopping mall. So I figure it can't be that difficult . Think I'll try my luck at Meadowhall in the mornin' Sean Yeah i pulled it from under the bulmiesters nose, maybe thats why i still carry the bruises. the record is in storage at Rob's. it might be rare but it's pretty awful!, although i have never played the flip,it is nice a deep trackwhich Baz has just posted up. Tats
April 23, 201015 yr On 23/04/2010 at 12:43, foolish fool said: the record is in storage at Rob's. it might be rare but it's pretty awful!, although i have never played the flip,it is nice a deep trackwhich Baz has just posted up. Tats Can only imagine what you two have got 'in storage' from all your buying trips together. That said, I've seen the state of Robs garage... so I'm volunteering to come and help you both sort 'em out. one for you... one for Rob... one for me! Sean
April 23, 201015 yr On 14/04/2010 at 19:22, Arkwright said: Great raw and low budget deep Anyone any clue who Gwen & Ray were, apart from being named Gwen & Ray of course. Did they go on to anything else under different names etc ? Ok, we've all got hard luck stories but I remember just missing this on Soul Bowl's list around 1975ish for £1.75 "Sorry it's gone" F--k! I thought the Gwen was Gwen McCrae wasn't it? And the original is super, super rare. Had it long ago and never seen another real one since...... Ian D
April 23, 201015 yr I've heard Andy Dyson play it out a couple of times this year, packed the floor. I hadn't heard it or seen a real one for many years.
April 23, 201015 yr On 23/04/2010 at 13:40, Ian Dewhirst said: I thought the Gwen was Gwen McCrae wasn't it? And the original is super, super rare. Had it long ago and never seen another real one since...... Ian D Oh Ian really!!!! Next you'll be telling us that Althea & Donna who had the hit "Uptown Top Ranking" featured Alethia Lattimore and Donny Hathaway The Yorks ensemble will be coming on here to tell us how they found one in someones toilet, and it's in their garage etc etc..... Can't get away from it though Gwen & Ray is a good solid norman oldie. Edited April 23, 201015 yr by Steve G
April 23, 201015 yr On 23/04/2010 at 15:05, Steve G said: Oh Ian really!!!! Next you'll be telling us that Althea & Donna who had the hit "Uptown Top Ranking" featured Aleta Lattimore and Donny Hathaway The Yorks ensemble will be coming on here to tell us how they found one in someones toilet, and it's in their garage etc etc..... Can't get away from it though Gwen & Ray is a good solid norman oldie. To be fair Steve, that was always the strong rumour back in the Mecca days, when it first turned up. A rumour got around that it was George & Gwen McCrae. And as a wordplay, you can see how it got there. Course, it was total ballocks, we all realised later, but by that time Ian had bought a one way ticket to LA, so he kinda missed the revelation! Sean PS: It's really Gwen Guthrie & Ray Charles. But I might have just made that up.
April 23, 201015 yr On 23/04/2010 at 15:17, Sean Hampsey said: but by that time Ian had bought a one way ticket to LA, so he kinda missed the revelation! Sean Missed the Revolution more like Steve
January 3, 201114 yr On 23/04/2010 at 12:43, foolish fool said: Yeah i pulled it from under the bulmiesters nose, maybe thats why i still carry the bruises. the record is in storage at Rob's. it might be rare but it's pretty awful!, although i have never played the flip,it is nice a deep trackwhich Baz has just posted up. Tats ouch!
January 4, 201114 yr On 03/01/2011 at 23:52, foolish fool said: ouch! Ouch! ???? Kin hell Tats, it took you 8 months to come up with that
January 5, 201114 yr On 04/01/2011 at 14:33, Arkwright said: Ouch! ???? Kin hell Tats, it took you 8 months to come up with that All will be revealed over the next few months........
whats the difference between the real and the bootleg ....both look the same i believe..and how much for original ...thanks in advance