Converting The Non Soulies

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

This is a thread about what songs do you add for a CD to make someone who not really know or into soul

i made a CD for someone in Austria using this track-list

1. Aretha Franklin - Wonderful - Arista - 2003

2. Harold Melvin - Prayin - Planet - 1979

3. Al Green - Keep On Pushing Love

4. The Honey Cone - It's Better To Have Loved and Lost - Invictus - 1972

5. The Embers - Just Crazy Bout You Baby

6. Bud Harper - Wherever You Were - Geffen - 1965

7. Charles Sheffield - It's Your Voodoo Working - Excello - 1961

8. Etta James - Seven Day Fool - Argo - 1961

9. Reggie Garner - Hot Line - Capitol - 1970

10. The Flirtations - Change My Darkness Into Light - Medal Music - 1966

11. Irma Thomas - Long After Tonight Is All Over - EMI - 1964

12. Irma and the Fascintors - You Need Love

13. Gene McDaniels - It's a Lonely Town - Capitol - 1963

14. Barbara Banks - River of Tears - Veep - 1967

15. Little Joe Cook - I'm Falling In Love With You Baby - 1967

16. Bob and Earl - Dancin Everywhere

17. Debra Anderson - Funny How We've Changed Places - 1974

18. The Spellbinders - Chain Reaction - 1966

19. Robert Parker - Let's Go Baby

20. The Chi-Lites - Love Bandit - 1966

21. Percy Sledge - Baby Help Me - Atlantic - 1967

22. Sam Cooke - Soothe Me - RCA - 1962

23. The Elgins - Stay In My Lonely Arms - Motown - 1966

24. The Contours - I Like Everything About You - Motown - 1967

25. Michael Jackson - Love's Gone Bad - Motown

26. The Supremes - Don't Let True Love Die - Motown - 1965

27. Barbra McNeir - Baby a Go Go - Motown - 1966

28. Marvin Gaye - When I Feel The Need - Motown - 1994

Only thing is he says not into soul and the cd dosen't do it for him, but if i recieved a cd like that first time i would be happy to hear the great tracks on offer

[Guest Trevski]

Covert a non soulie? Don't waste your time!

[ImberBoy]

I have often pondered this given the fact that over the years I have played Northernsoul "cold" to some of my friends who were less than impressed.

I think it's a case of going fishing and catching a fish the first time out and getting hooked for life or watching football and seeing an excellent goal then ending up supporting that team through thick and thin.

Northernsoul played cold misses too much out, the atmosphere, the ravel, the venue, the anticipation, the naughtiness of sneaking out and staying up all night when most souls are in their beds, these are all very potent components that make up a soulie and to trying to circumnavigate these small but important pieces gives an incomplete jigsaw puzzle that can some times make no sense.

I will be brutally honest and say that I have heard many records on CD that meant nothing to me until submerged in the full flow of our strange cult with all of the trimmings needed to make the meal a hearty and memorable experience.

Put your CD away, log off from Youtube and save your self some time, you can never capture the essence of Northernsoul without an allnighter, to say so is to lie and to believe so is to have never done an apprenticeship on the scene.

[Guest soul elite]

I have often pondered this given the fact that over the years I have played Northernsoul "cold" to some of my friends who were less than impressed.

I think it's a case of going fishing and catching a fish the first time out and getting hooked for life or watching football and seeing an excellent goal then ending up supporting that team through thick and thin.

Northernsoul played cold misses too much out, the atmosphere, the ravel, the venue, the anticipation, the naughtiness of sneaking out and staying up all night when most souls are in their beds, these are all very potent components that make up a soulie and to trying to circumnavigate these small but important pieces gives an incomplete jigsaw puzzle that can some times make no

I will be brutally honest and say that I have heard many records on CD that meant nothing to me until submerged in the full flow of our strange cult with all of the trimmings needed to make the meal a hearty and memorable experience.

Put your CD away, log off from Youtube and save your self some time, you can never capture the essence of Northernsoul without an allnighter, to say so is to lie and to believe so is to have never done an apprenticeship on the scene.

Totally agree with you young man, I have tried and failed many times!

[Rbman]

Covert a non soulie? Don't waste your time!

Absolutely....how will it be kept our special underground scene if you open it up to tourists...

[Guest Dave Turner]

I think I pretty much agree with you there Simon.

Also the word SOUL in this context I presume means Northern or Northern related. Send someone a Northern CD and it could leave them flat. Send the same person a CD of either Sweet Soul, R&B, Deep Soul, Southern Soul, Soulful House, Modern, Funk etc etc etc and perhaps just one of those would knock them off their chair.

Individuals will pick up on a genre or sub-genre because something just hits them about it. I think some folks could hit onto Northern and like it but as you say there is far more than the track itself in order to appreciate it fully.

[hullsoul]

It's hard enough trying to get some soulies who have been on the scene years to listen to different aspects of the scene never mind try to get someone into it from one CD?

This is not a statement I use often but Simon is right,the scene is made up of many facets which need to be sampled simultaneously to have the full experience.

Good luck.

Cheers

Martyn

[Guest Simon]

Absolutely....how will it be kept our special underground scene if you open it up to tourists...

Agree, there's already too many of the wrong sort of people into it due to certain people over commercialising NS a few years back, cull not recruitment!

Simon

[Guest Simon]

Covert a non soulie? Don't waste your time!

Sounds a bit religeous, thou shalt covert a non soulie.

Saint Simon

[Guest Bearsy]

waste of fooking time when you cant even convert most of the scene into hearing something new

you either get it or you dont, give it to them rare then let them find the over played kak in tesco

[Spacehopper]

what about a chair , gaffer tape and an i pod on continuous play !!

but seriously hah dont bother...if you dont get it you wont get it

[Ian Parker]

I think it's quite hard to convert someone completely........................but some folk who are not really into the music, might like the odd track or two

Debbie x

[Guest]

waste of fooking time when you cant even convert most of the scene into hearing something new

you either get it or you dont, give it to them rare then let them find the over played kak in tesco

TOTALLY AGREE. BESIDES A 'SOULIE' SHOULD NOT NEED TO BE CONVERTED. THEY SHOULD BE THE ONE GOING OUT LOOKING FOR IT....WANTING TO HEAR MORE BECAUSE OF THE BUZZ IT GIVES THEM. IF THEY GET THAT BUZZ IN THE FIRST PLACE OF COURSE.

Edited April 12, 2010 by The Joker

[Guest Matt Male]

waste of fooking time when you cant even convert most of the scene into hearing something new

Brilliant, absolutely spot on.

[macca]

An opportunity to recant, followed by confession under duress, and then the stake (or the snake)...

[Guest Matt Male]

You either love it or you don't Mathew....Good Luck anyway!

I think his name is Paul, the OP i mean.

[Britmusicsoulfan]

I've got a mate that I played a bunch of Motown stuff to that he liked, so I'll play the Northern Soul stuff to him next.

[Kevinkent]

Hey Matthew, have you given up on trying to convert your fellow bus passengers?

For the uninitiated, Matthew is WPaulVanDyke and this is one of his youtube blogs:

Edited April 12, 2010 by KevinKent

[Guest Dave Turner]

I think his name is Paul, the OP i mean.

What puzzles me is how come Sugar Dumpling ain't on the CD

Edited April 12, 2010 by Dave Turner

[ImberBoy]

Hey Matthew, have you given up on trying to convert your fellow bus passengers?

For the uninitiated, Matthew is WPaulVanDyke and this is one of his youtube blogs:

KevinKent I salute you sir! That surely has to be theeee top youtube clip ever!

I love it and wish I had found it, essence!

[KevH]

What puzzles me is how come Sugar Dumpling ain't on the CD

One step at a t t time.

[Guest Dave Turner]

One step at a t t time.

You got a sticky keyboard?

[Guest Biz]

Wicked pizza maker too

pity there aint a smiley for spewing

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

Playing Northern soul on a bus when the driver says turn it down lol is fun, lucky they like Blues but still it be like getting water in a deserst island trying to get new people into Northern soul

one person i knew once said i liked Sugar dumpling years ago but had no idea it was Northern soul

[SOULCENTRAL]

I have often pondered this given the fact that over the years I have played Northernsoul "cold" to some of my friends who were less than impressed.

I think it's a case of going fishing and catching a fish the first time out and getting hooked for life or watching football and seeing an excellent goal then ending up supporting that team through thick and thin.

Northernsoul played cold misses too much out, the atmosphere, the ravel, the venue, the anticipation, the naughtiness of sneaking out and staying up all night when most souls are in their beds, these are all very potent components that make up a soulie and to trying to circumnavigate these small but important pieces gives an incomplete jigsaw puzzle that can some times make no sense.

I will be brutally honest and say that I have heard many records on CD that meant nothing to me until submerged in the full flow of our strange cult with all of the trimmings needed to make the meal a hearty and memorable experience.

Put your CD away, log off from Youtube and save your self some time, you can never capture the essence of Northernsoul without an allnighter, to say so is to lie and to believe so is to have never done an apprenticeship on the scene.

AGREE WITH MOST OF YOUR OBSERVATIONS ON THIS ONE EXCEPT THE ALLNIGHTER BIT. GREAT POST BUT CONSIDER THIS.

Surley the essence of what is Northern Soul is the actual music/sound itself. Many people who are into northern, who are now in their senior years, had their first introduction to soul/northern at many of the smaller evening venues and youth organisations.

When the music/sound grabbed you and you were hungry for more, that for me was the very essence of the beginings of Northern Soul. The allnighter gave you all the bells and whistles so to speak and was integral to the scene and very important as it still is today for the introduction of new and vibrant sounds.

Arkright,s post is spot on when highlighting how people grasp the genres of soul.

ROY

[Guest popper]

Wicked pizza maker too

pity there aint a smiley for spewing

[barney]

Wicked pizza maker too

pity there aint a smiley for spewing

here ya go

[ImberBoy]

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AGREE WITH MOST OF YOUR OBSERVATIONS ON THIS ONE EXCEPT THE ALLNIGHTER BIT. GREAT POST BUT CONSIDER THIS.

Surley the essence of what is Northern Soul is the actual music/sound itself. Many people who are into northern, who are now in their senior years, had their first introduction to soul/northern at many of the smaller evening venues and youth organisations.

When the music/sound grabbed you and you were hungry for more, that for me was the very essence of the beginings of Northern Soul. The allnighter gave you all the bells and whistles so to speak and was integral to the scene and very important as it still is today for the introduction of new and vibrant sounds.

Arkright,s post is spot on when highlighting how people grasp the genres of soul.

ROY

[ImberBoy]

"Converting The Non Soulies", don't convert them! "Burn them!"