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this is on cleopatra isnt it?? or is there another label?? the old john vincent spin,,,wasnt covered up as the gladiators??

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Flip used to get played out too. Sometimes by mistake as loads of copies were labeled the wrong way round. "4th Dimension" is an insane piece of surf music that I'd never part with. :(

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Flip used to get played out too. Sometimes by mistake as loads of copies were labeled the wrong way round. "4th Dimension" is an insane piece of surf music that I'd never part with. no.gif

i stand corrected!, infact ive been talking to tim brown this afternoon about this record and he mentioned it was on cleopatra so ive got my facts wrong there. yes, it was covered up as the gladiators - "the miami sound" and john was yer man....odd-ball tune but in 74/75 massive floorpacker, but then it wasnt hard to please 1800 souls baying for stompers!....i still want a copy though...incidentally, tim tells me there exists another version....i wonder if it has the "clangers flute-whistle in an echo-chamber" intro?.

yes, you're right its insane, its surf, west coast?, but 100mph and i want to see what it does at the tower!, so if someone can oblige i will be grateful.

rob.h

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i stand corrected!, infact ive been talking to tim brown this afternoon about this record and he mentioned it was on cleopatra so ive got my facts wrong there. yes, it was covered up as the gladiators - "the miami sound" and john was yer man....odd-ball tune but in 74/75 massive floorpacker, but then it wasnt hard to please 1800 souls baying for stompers!....i still want a copy though...incidentally, tim tells me there exists another version....i wonder if it has the "clangers flute-whistle in an echo-chamber" intro?.

yes, you're right its insane, its surf, west coast?, but 100mph and i want to see what it does at the tower!, so if someone can oblige i will be grateful.

rob.h

and ive even got my glasses on and i still make mistakes!!! its east coast....sorry!

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....i wonder if it has the "clangers flute-whistle in an echo-chamber" intro?.

rob.h

That sounds like an accurate description of the intro to the flip side "4th Dimension" that I referred to above.

A piece of trivia that I think I've mentioned before is that exactly the same noise is used on one of the Gerry Anderson 'Century 21' EPs: "The Daleks". My guess is that it's from a sound effects library type LP or tape from the 60s.

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That sounds like an accurate description of the intro to the flip side "4th Dimension" that I referred to above.

A piece of trivia that I think I've mentioned before is that exactly the same noise is used on one of the Gerry Anderson 'Century 21' EPs: "The Daleks". My guess is that it's from a sound effects library type LP or tape from the 60s.

right, so can you put me straight about this then,...the b-side is the same as the a-side, but with the wierd begining yes?. and shoestring is another version...but does that have the wierd begining?....either way can i get a copy of the record with THE WIERD BEGINING?. ive been advised about the one on 20th century but i want to be sure im getting the right record so if someone does have what i want and is willing to sell im waiting to do a deal.

rob.h

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That sounds like an accurate description of the intro to the flip side "4th Dimension" that I referred to above.

A piece of trivia that I think I've mentioned before is that exactly the same noise is used on one of the Gerry Anderson 'Century 21' EPs: "The Daleks". My guess is that it's from a sound effects library type LP or tape from the 60s.

WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING UP A SOUNDCLIP PLEASE?

rob.h

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right, so can you put me straight about this then,...the b-side is the same as the a-side, but with the wierd begining yes?. and shoestring is another version...but does that have the wierd begining?....either way can i get a copy of the record with THE WIERD BEGINING?. ive been advised about the one on 20th century but i want to be sure im getting the right record so if someone does have what i want and is willing to sell im waiting to do a deal.

rob.h

The flip is a different tune called 4th Dimension and is a great surf tune. It has all the sound effects on the intro. The Shoestring 45 is an unrelated vocal called that Candy Andy that has an instrumental on the B side called "Shoop de Hooop Twine. This is exactly the same recording as Jack 23.

I'm not aware of a version of Jack 23 with any sound effects on, but - as I stated - I have heard "4th Dimension" played and announced as Jack 23. Probably one of the many mislabeled copies.

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The flip is a different tune called 4th Dimension and is a great surf tune. It has all the sound effects on the intro. The Shoestring 45 is an unrelated vocal called that Candy Andy that has an instrumental on the B side called "Shoop de Hooop Twine. This is exactly the same recording as Jack 23.

I'm not aware of a version of Jack 23 with any sound effects on, but - as I stated - I have heard "4th Dimension" played and announced as Jack 23. Probably one of the many mislabeled copies.

right!, so here's the mystery then,.....lets say jv had this record and when he started djing at the casino during 74/75 and a copy does not exist with the intro on it.....then he must have gone to a studio and had an acetate cut with the intro engineered onto it and if thats a fair presumption, then does john still posess it?

rob.h


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