ImberBoy Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Eddie Parker's "I'm Gone" The Hesitations - That's what Love is Richard Searling, spun Eddie Parker's "I'm Gone" at Wigan and we seam to have a dust off with this track and have done for some time on the nighter scene, the record features a mega lyric "Its all over like a three leaf clover", simply marvelous! The Hesitations - That's what Love is features "I'm Gone's" music without the thump! How does this happen, the same music, is it from the same record company? I know there are loads of examples of this sort of thing but I would like to know about these two? Could some one add the files?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 if someone are interested have the hesitations lp for sale pm me...!!! i think on refosoul section are both loaded !!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Patto Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Two Versions of my all time fave Northern Soul track Imberboy.The Eddie Parker shades it for me but the Hesitations is a real builder that leaves you in raptures at the fade out.Only ever owned Eddie on the 70s boot but got the Soul Superman L.P and the Hesitations also appeared on a legit(i think) SOUL SERIES 45 which came out in the 90s. As for the connection would love to know myself good question mate Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Eddie Parker's "I'm Gone" Writen by J. Ashford & E. Lewis. AWAKE was Jack Ashford's record label The Hesitations - That's what Love is Writen by J. Ashford & E. Lewis. A Pied Piper production, which was Jack Asford's production company I know there are loads of examples of this sort of thing but I would like to know about these two? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ImberBoy Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 Thanks Simon Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Could some one add the files?? your very welcome Imberboy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Eddie Parker's "I'm Gone" The Hesitations - That's what Love is Richard Searling, spun Eddie Parker's "I'm Gone" at Wigan and we seam to have a dust off with this track and have done for some time on the nighter scene, the record features a mega lyric "Its all over like a three leaf clover", simply marvelous! The Hesitations - That's what Love is features "I'm Gone's" music without the thump! How does this happen, the same music, is it from the same record company? AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THERE'S NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO, JUST PROBABLY A SIMPLE CASE OF DIFFERENT WORDS BEING PUT TO A TUNE. AS YOU SAY, LOADS OF EXAMPLES OF THIS. IMO THOUGH, THE EDDIE PARKER FAR OUTWEIGHS THE HESITATIONS. JUST MORE POWER AND SOUL TO IT..............SIMPLES. I know there are loads of examples of this sort of thing but I would like to know about these two? Could some one add the files?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THERE'S NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO, JUST PROBABLY A SIMPLE CASE OF DIFFERENT WORDS BEING PUT TO A TUNE. AS YOU SAY, LOADS OF EXAMPLES OF THIS. IMO THOUGH, THE EDDIE PARKER FAR OUTWEIGHS THE HESITATIONS. JUST MORE POWER AND SOUL TO IT..............SIMPLES. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ImberBoy Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 mikecook thank you Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Moore Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I'm hoping this ain't a wind up and it's a serious question....otherwise I may look a chump here but... The songs are most certainly connected! The names of Jack Ashford, Mike Terry, Lorraine Chandler, Herbie Williams, Joe Hunter etc are all over the music. It is of course the Peid Piper production Team of Detroit. They produced The Hesitations album before the group were later assigned to GWP Productions. All written about in There's That Beat! (Can't remember which issue). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest posstot Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Hey Simon. The connection being, as pointed out. Is the writers and production teams on most of these ,'same backing different lyrics' type songs. Or simply because an artist, writer, producer liked the track and wanted to put there slant on it. I suppose it could even start out as a jamming session whereby some of the musicians played on the original versions..and ended up simply titting about in the studio with a different artist and there and then decided to lay down a different vocal, just for the hell of it because they could. You could even presume that someone on the west coast had success with a track....so someone on the east coast thought we could use that, but lets put a different lyric on it, as it fits with our last release. Or even, a different production team trying to outdo there rivals with there version...."how do you like them onions then" type competition...... Either way, it is great to hear them from our point of view. Oh to have been there would be something else!! Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Moore Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Hey Simon. The connection being, as pointed out. Is the writers and production teams on most of these ,'same backing different lyrics' type songs. Or simply because an artist, writer, producer liked the track and wanted to put there slant on it. I suppose it could even start out as a jamming session whereby some of the musicians played on the original versions..and ended up simply titting about in the studio with a different artist and there and then decided to lay down a different vocal, just for the hell of it because they could. You could even presume that someone on the west coast had success with a track....so someone on the east coast thought we could use that, but lets put a different lyric on it, as it fits with our last release. Or even, a different production team trying to outdo there rivals with there version...."how do you like them onions then" type competition...... Either way, it is great to hear them from our point of view. Oh to have been there would be something else!! Mike Which brings us the the one version not mentioned yet: Billy Sha Rae's version on Spectrum. Another great slant on what is an absolute gem of a backing track coupled with some pretty remarkable lyrics too (in both songs). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Which brings us the the one version not mentioned yet: Billy Sha Rae's version on Spectrum. Another great slant on what is an absolute gem of a backing track coupled with some pretty remarkable lyrics too (in both songs). Not mentioned because it's rubbish. Thread about that version elsewhere after some lunatic paid £70 for it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest stash313 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 On 4/8/2010 at 16:47, Pete S said: Not mentioned because it's rubbish. Thread about that version elsewhere after some lunatic paid £70 for it. I think its an aquired taste! So to speak... As if by magic I have both the Soul Series 45 and the Soul Superman album up for sale at the minute. :-) I actually prefer the Hesitations to Eddie Parker's version, un-sure why but The Hesitations has just always done it for me. But they're both two examples of some extremely fine up-tempo Soul music. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Moore Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Not mentioned because it's rubbish. Thread about that version elsewhere after some lunatic paid £70 for it. Damn Pete! All these years I thought it was quite good! I'll go take a hammer to it now Mate and redress the balance! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 On 4/10/2010 at 13:53, Livesey said: I think its an aquired taste! So to speak... As if by magic I have both the Soul Series 45 and the Soul Superman album up for sale at the minute. :-) I actually prefer the Hesitations to Eddie Parker's version, un-sure why but The Hesitations has just always done it for me. But they're both two examples of some extremely fine up-tempo Soul music. LIKE OR DISLIKE THESE TUNES.............UPTEMPO THEY AIN,T........ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Johnmcc Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Eddie Parker, one of the tunes. You want Drum and Bass kids? Listen to this, with vibes on top! Who's never wanted to scream those words at a parent, teacher, boss or partner - Eddie says it - "I'm Gone" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Damn Pete! All these years I thought it was quite good! I'll go take a hammer to it now Mate and redress the balance! One less copy in the world won't do any harm.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geoff Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Steve Plumb played the Hesitations at Soul Essence last Friday in the spot where he featues LP only tracks. Had me and Dave Swift out there giving our all. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 still have my copy of lp for sale.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
viphitman Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I first only knew the Eddie Parker one but I much prefer Billy Sha Rae which is much clearer in sound and with a more punch to it!!! The Hesitations is great too!!! But I guess for some, brownie points weight a little heavy on their musical synapses Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I first only knew the Eddie Parker one but I much prefer Billy Sha Rae which is much clearer in sound and with a more punch to it!!! The Hesitations is great too!!! But I guess for some, brownie points weight a little heavy on their musical synapses Billy Sha Rae more punch than Eddie Parker? On what planet? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
viphitman Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Billy Sha Rae more punch than Eddie Parker? On what planet? Ha Ha ...I knew you would take the bait Let's just say we live on different planets now and then !!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 If there is one record that defines northern soul it might just be Eddie Parker its awesome. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 If there is one record that defines northern soul it might just be Eddie Parker its awesome. No might about it. The best record ever. Incredible! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Byrney Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 My number 1 northern soul record of all time. Pure and utter class. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 My number 1 northern soul record of all time. Pure and utter class. And mine 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 No might about it. The best record ever. Incredible! Absolutely Joan girl,what you said ! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest wangwanjo Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 About the hesitations thats where love is does anybody know when did the hesitations first get played on the sceene and who started playing it ,its a brilliant record ,can you only get it on the soul superman lp or did somebody boot leg it ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Jones Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Absolutely Joan girl,what you said ! He did a pretty good live version on my 21st too! Edited December 13, 2011 by soulechoes Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest jerrio Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 He did it pretty good live version on my 21st too! You know ,ive heard how The Stafford Show was The Dogs Carry on but sadly I never got there,Iwas too busy getting over the night before,.I was at the Dalia Club in Darlington Alot smaller venue than the Stafford gig but how intamat that show was,I personaly will never forget an encounter with two of the greatest Detroit Legends came to my home town and blew me away. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) while were at it, not sure of the credits on it, but there must be a connection between 'Im gone' and Derek Martin's unreleased 'flashback'? they sound so similar, imho. Billy Shae Rae aint as good but it isnt that bad a version either. Edited December 13, 2011 by geeselad Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Not mentioned because it's rubbish. Thread about that version elsewhere after some lunatic paid £70 for it. I have to agree there, its like comparing cat piss to a pint of Guiness!! I also don't think the hesitations version is anywhere near as good as Eddie`s I also heard at that time that Billy Sharae was Eddie Parkers brother but ive never heard that said since and I never gave it any thought since. Although I bought it in 73 from a barrow boy on Gt Windmill st (Ady? ) I had never heard the Hesitations version or Eddie Parkers, which has no equal on the scene, simply the best NS record of them all!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest jerrio Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I have to agree there, its like comparing cat piss to a pint of Guiness!! I also don't think the hesitations version is anywhere near as good as Eddie`s I also heard at that time that Billy Sharae was Eddie Parkers brother but ive never heard that said since and I never gave it any thought since. Although I bought it in 73 from a barrow boy on Gt Windmill st (Ady? ) I had never heard the Hesitations version or Eddie Parkers, which has no equal on the scene, simply the best NS record of them all!! I think the question of the relationship between Billy Sharae and Eddie Parker was brought uo in Lorraine Chandlers thread Steve,cant find it now like. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dazdakin Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 "Cat piss, to a pint of Guiness" fooking genius :D It's good to laugh your tit's off at a comment on a computer screen..........brilliant. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
lorchand Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) I'm glad you all like(d) I'm Gone. Eddie Parker did a wonderful job recording it. Eddie was electric and pulsating, just like what you heard. Just as clarification, Eddie and Billy Sha-Rae are not blood bothers. Just brothers in the Pied Piper family. Lorraine Edited December 13, 2011 by lorchand Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
lorchand Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 You know ,ive heard how The Stafford Show was The Dogs Carry on but sadly I never got there,Iwas too busy getting over the night before,.I was at the Dalia Club in Darlington Alot smaller venue than the Stafford gig but how intamat that show was,I personaly will never forget an encounter with two of the greatest Detroit Legends came to my home town and blew me away. It was a wonderful night and a good show too! Eddie and I will never forget it or the crowd. They were wonderful. Lorraine Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Not mentioned because it's rubbish. Thread about that version elsewhere after some lunatic paid £70 for it. Thanks Pete -BRILLIANT post and trust you to remember that one ! Rob Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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