Guest BIG H Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 loving this thread the late 60's early 70's was by far my favorite era in soul music, another cheapie that's worth a mention is Creations - A Dream on Zodiac proper crossover tune
Garethx Posted March 27, 2010 Author Posted March 27, 2010 Following on from The Independents I don't know if anyone's mentioned Maurice Jackson on Lakeside or Candlelite yet: an enduring Crossover classic. Along with Bobby Reed on Bell it was one of the very first records to get me into this style. Maybe not quite in the 'ultimate' category but other things that I don't think have been mentioned yet are Sharon McMahan "Get Out Of My Life" on Columbia, Gemini "Unchanging Love" on Rosa and The Perfections "Leaning Post" on Drive. I think the latter two are yet to have their day.
George M Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 I second Ian on Ray Frazier as my ultimate. A tune that hits me hard on many levels. Good calls by Dave F on L.T. & Cooperettes, Dave R on Fantastics etc, Gareth on Gemini & Merv Murphy and Sam on Elois, though.
Bjorn Nilsson Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) Carl Hall-What about you-Columbia George Perkins-I`m so glad your mine-Royal Shield Chris George Perkins would be my top choice too! For me it's the very definition of crossover and so soulful "I could cryyyy"! Edited March 27, 2010 by B Nilsson
Guest Black Gold of the Sun Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) Got to be the New Sounds "Dont Take Your Love From Me "just love the vocals ! Love The Sugar Bears tune Edited March 27, 2010 by Black Gold of the Sun
dthedrug Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 Hi All...The ultamate Crossover Record IS "When I'am Lovin you" - Jimmy Holiday? MASSIVE at Soulful Samanthas in 75 Am I getting it right now.. DAVE..A 6ts Wulverhomton Stomp Luvver...
Sweeney Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 I'm going to suggest Bobby Hutton's Come See What's Left of Me as an archetypal crossover record.
Guest JIM BARRY Posted March 27, 2010 Posted March 27, 2010 I'm going to suggest Bobby Hutton's Come See What's Left of Me as an archetypal crossover record. GREAT GREAT TUNE . LITTLE GIRL ......COREY GLOVERIS MY CHOICE AND THOUSAND YEARS.....BRAND NEW
Sweeney Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) I'll also give a mention to 'Just Loving You' by Ruby Andrews on Zodiac. It may be very played out and a tad groanworthy these days but I think it's an important record in the acceptance of crossover as a distinctive genre. Edited March 28, 2010 by sweeney
Neiljon31 Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Staying with the cheap as chips theme, boy oh boy, for the dancers this just sums up group crossover INDEPENDENTS - I LOVE YOU YES I DO - WAND 1973 - Absolutley top shout on the Independents Dave, Anyone mentioned Albert Jones ?
Guest stromberg Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 this topic rubs in some salt in not-yet-healed-wounds, as a lot of the mentioned titles were stolen from me, but the passion for the music stays I am surprised no-one has mentioned the best crossover record ever: Delegates of Soul- I'll come running back to me it's the blueprint of a crossover dancer or would that be the Hesitations: Is this the way to treat a girl or.. best Stefan
Guest stromberg Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Am I alone in appreciating the merits of Johnny Moore..... Such a Wonderful Feeling - Blue Rock Lonely Heart In The City - Blue Rock I Wanna Spend The Rest Of My Life/Just Be For Real - Brunswick I'm Only Half A Man Without Your Love - Jadan It's All Over (And Our Love Is A Faded Dream) - Jadan Just My Way Of Loving You - Date not forgetting the awesome Your love is fadin'-Mercury
KevH Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 And this, got to be one of the best blue eyed soul singles ever cut THE MOB - I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF YOU - UK AMERICAN - Add to that one of the best on a UK label too Dave.(Anyone got a Polydor demo of it they don't want?).Great thread.
Reg Scott Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) Seeing as nobody else is sticking to just one, I'm going to add one more to Almeta Lattimore's beauty and that is: Either version: T S U Toronadoes - A Thousand Wonders - Ovide Archie Bell & the Drells - A Thousand Wonders - Atlantic BTW if anyone has a nice copy of the Spanish release of A Thousand Wonders by Archie I would be interested in a copy ............................................. Regards, Greg. Edited March 28, 2010 by ClearVinyl
Guest Richard Bergman Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Alex Brown - I'm Not Responsible - Sundi
Dave Thorley Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Al Perkins Yes my goodness yes. The Original Atco recording (Which I can't find in Refosoul), not the later Buddah mix
Eddie Hubbard Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 I wonder Why - Sy Hightower , memories of Thorne .......Best,Eddie
Ady Pountain Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Alright Ken calm down! Just posted two of my favourite xover tracks on the topic page. The Implements and Bobby Hutton both on Philips. How they ended up ther is a mystery to me, and I don't want an explanation! Enjoy!
Guest Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Alright Ken calm down! Just posted two of my favourite xover tracks on the topic page. The Implements and Bobby Hutton both on Philips. How they ended up ther is a mystery to me, and I don't want an explanation! Enjoy! What do you mean calm down ? only asked you to post 'em in right section/thread, like its some big deal,and i cant explain it either,try post in refo-soul and the cut & paste into topic,but dont tell me to calm down.
Steve G Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Al Perkins Yes my goodness yes. The Original Atco recording (Which I can't find in Refosoul), not the later Buddah mix I like the Velma Perkins take on this on Twinight......but for ultimate x over well my taste chages by the day, and today's favourite is: HERMAN HITSON on Sweet Rose.
Northernguy Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Tough call this one loads already mentioned but I'll go for my current ring tone "Triplettes that man of mine" only problem with having it as tone is I can't answer phone cos I wanna listen to choooon. Alan
Geoff Posted March 28, 2010 Posted March 28, 2010 Like the Northern Soul top 30 this changes every day but currently it's a tie between these 3 records: La'Dellics - Never Gonna Change Ella Woods - I Need Your Love Four Dynamics - Things A Lady Ain't Supposed To Do
Guest OntheScene Posted March 29, 2010 Posted March 29, 2010 It just has to be the late 60s 'Loveland' by Spanky Wilson on Mother Records - wunn-derr-fulllll This is what crossover is to me not like some people think, ie; mid seventies soul tune like Gloria Scott's Too much lovemakin'. Good it may be but it's not crossover.
Lfcjunkie Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 annette poindexter-a wayward dream-twinight don't know if its already been posted but one hell of a crossover biggie a t b dave
pikeys dog Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Staying with the cheap as chips theme, boy oh boy, for the dancers this just sums up group crossover INDEPENDENTS - I LOVE YOU YES I DO - WAND 1973 - Also came out on UK - think it was Pye International (the 70s pink one).
John Benson Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Correct Joe - it did come out on Pye over here
Diamondjim Posted March 31, 2010 Posted March 31, 2010 Great thread this one think this will be going for a while yet....my choice would be Sag War Fare....Girl! you better change....Libra James Bell & The Highlighters Band....The love of my girl....3 Diamonds Michael
Garswood Posted April 1, 2010 Posted April 1, 2010 was gonna choose Bobbyy Reed, but already picked so what about Lee Brackett - Ruby / Save a foolish man on excello, great double sider
Ncfc Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 JJ Barnes "Forgive me" Groovesville nice and cheap and perfect Crosover.
John Benson Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 JJ Barnes "Forgive me" Groovesville nice and cheap and perfect Crossover. Lovely version, but for me Darrell Banks version has the edge - from his Volt LP
Sean Hampsey Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 Lovely version, but for me Darrell Banks version has the edge - from his Volt LP:thumbsup: Agree mate, The 'Here To Stay" LP is always in my box and a regular spin of mine at Yarmuff etc. Must give it a spin this weekend. Sean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kO8EXDdChE
Guest D'Arcy Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 Agree mate, The 'Here To Stay" LP is always in my box and a regular spin of mine at Yarmuff etc. Must give it a spin this weekend. Sean Fantastic record, and I for one Sean, will wait with anticipation till you do
Flanny Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 For me the ultimate late 60.s early 70.record that suits the terminology xover is FREDERICK HYMES THE 111 TIME AINT GONNA DO ME NO FAVOUR A KILLER and sonny till a close second
kevinsoulman Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 mandells how to love a woman MANDELLS - HOW TO LOVE A WOMAN - kev
Guest dicklincoln72 Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 A bit cheeky I know, but getting back to the great Tyrone Davis, "I Had It All The Time". Spot the crossover in the intro?
Guest GreenCoilRecords Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 I can shed some light on this, as I have been associated with Willie since the late 60's. He released his cover of Curtis Mayfield's "Right On For The Darkness" shortly after Mayfield's release, on a label he and Susan Haynes founded called "Hotel Records." Willie sent a demo copy to Curtis Mayfield at the time, but never got a reply. Willie's assumption at the time and today is that Mayfield either didn't get it, or was peeved at the cover, given how soon it came out after the original. They never met, but Curtis is Willie Wright's stated ultimate favorite of all times. I think Mayfield must have released it as a B side on a single, and WIllie heard it and loved it. The version on the album is only there as a bonus track on the 2010 Numero Group re-release of "Telling the Truth." In reality, Willie Wright only released "Right On" as a 45, and only 500 copies were ever produced.
dean jj Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Crossover [from where to what you may well ask] emerged in 85/86. Basically quality soul records not played on the northern or wider jazz-funk scenes in the 70's,with it only becoming about rare records and virtually northerns litte cousin much later on. So the roots of crossover or the early years: DEBBIE TAYLOR 'JUST DON'T PAY' BOBBY WILSON 'DEEPER AND DEEPER' WE THE PEOPLE 'MAKING MY DAYDREAM REAL' JOE ANDERSON 'YOU AND I' JEAN WELLS 'WHAT HAVE WE GOT TO LOOSE' MARVIN GAYE 'COME GET TO THIS' dean
Guest Soulatthedale Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Tommie Young Hit & Run Lover.........the label says it all... Soul Power
dean jj Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Yep Tommy Young should be on my last list of original crossover tunes.
Guest micksoul Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 The Paramount four 'Sorry aint the word ' has to be right up there , a record that epitomises crossover for me
Mak Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 For me the ultimate late 60.s early 70.record that suits the terminology xover is FREDERICK HYMES THE 111 TIME AINT GONNA DO ME NO FAVOUR A KILLER and sonny till a close second Superb taste sir.
Otis Smith Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 limitations-all because of you-volt, sam nesbit-chasing those clouds away-amos, natural four-the situation needs no explanation-abc.
MarkWhiteley Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Doc Peabody - Here Without You.......................Does it for me!
Sjclement Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Women Like it Harder Milton Parker Closet (bit pricey but worth every penny) Just noticed that this is a resurrected thread and I'd posted previously but a good thread to keep going
Marshman Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Its got to be Chuck Ray then That gets a massive from me!
Marshman Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 I've been a bit lazy and not read through the whole thread so apologies if already listed.. Norma Jean - I've taken Over - Hep'me That's if I reach it in the box before I get to Chuck Ray of course
Guest Ed B Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 "I Know You're Leaving Me" - Si Hightower Has it all, rarity megga following, and SOUL R & K Spot on Rob!! true class and a musical journey !! Quality.
Guest bleusuperb Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Johnny Gilliam Can't really see many things above that tune, loved it since mid 80s and still do today, really wished i had bought it for £20 all that time ago.. Tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuune..... That man Thorley got taste.... Will have a think of my own and get back on this..... Sorry but that is truly dreadful, in a thread which contains many poor tracks, that stands alone. Maybe all the good stuff has been found and played, and as a result, we accept the garbage and call it crossover, if the scene had relied on records of this standard then it would never have happened. Of course this is only my opinion, but WTF.
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