Garethx Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 We've had many threads on the definitions and semantics of the term. We have the fantastic media thread on the subject which continues to entertain and inform. I thought I'd start a thread for people to nominate one record which they view as the ultimate embodiment of the genre. I appreciate that these generic definitions are problematic and maybe unnecessary but hopefully this thread will give those who wonder what all the fuss is about an insight as to why fans of these records are so passionate about them. It would be great if contributors could limit themselves to ONE record: that which is in their eyes the ultimate example of the term. I'll start the ball rolling and nominate RICHARD CAITON "I'D LIKE TO GET NEAR YOU" on UP TIGHT I'll write a bit about exactly why I think it's the ultimate Crossover record a bit later, but I'm already looking forward to others' choices and am eager to see what, if any, consensus emerges. There are no wrong answers. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) Gareth, surely not another contoversial thread.... Mine Chuck Ray - I Don't Mind - Tamboo. For me its the ultimate swayer and can never get bored or it. Can't keep it to one and cheating by also including Billy Kent - Take It All this Time - Expo - Complete magic. Edited March 25, 2010 by John Reed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Hopefully this thread will not be a place for controversy for controversy's sake John. Debate is welcomed. Remember, there are no wrong answers, but you will have to choose between Billy Kent and Chuck Ray, I'm afraid. There can only be one ultimate. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Its got to be Chuck Ray then Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Upthejunction Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Hopefully this thread will not be a place for controversy for controversy's sake John. Debate is welcomed. Remember, there are no wrong answers, but you will have to choose between Billy Kent and Chuck Ray, I'm afraid. There can only be one ultimate. Would Bobby Taylor - Don't Be Afraid sit in this category ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 Would Bobby Taylor - Don't Be Afraid sit in this category ? Most definitely I would say. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Tempest Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Don't know about it being the ULTIMATE crossover track , but it's a good un ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Guitar Ray -You gonna wreck my life Bobby Sheen-Something new to do Soul Brothers Inc - Pyramid Lyn Varnado - Was and wear love Houston Outlaws -Aint no telling Can't come up with just one, but here are a few that would be up there off the top of my head Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rob Wigley Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 "I Know You're Leaving Me" - Si Hightower Has it all, rarity megga following, and SOUL R & K Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Willie Wright "Right On for The Darkness" on Hotel Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Darrell Banks "I'm The One Who Loves You" Stax / Volt My tune! Sean 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sweeney Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I'll plump for "Pyramid" by Soul Bros Inc. on Golden Eye. Cuz it's like no other... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Ollie Lailey Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) The Volumes - I've Never Been So In Love or The Differences - Five Minutes Edited March 25, 2010 by Ollie Lailey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Baz Atkinson Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Put this up for my soulmate,too me along with the flip sums it up perfectly,pleased i got mine as the price will rocket on this eventually!! It is perfection. BERNARD SMITH - NEVER GONNA LET YOU GO - SPECTRUM 7" - BAZ A Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Benson Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 This one can't be narrowed down to just one, but just for this moment in time I'd go for: Maxine Brown's "Don't leave me baby" on Epic - one 'Epic' performance from the lady! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dennisoul Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Fab choice Baz, av played NGLYG out a few times north of the border with not much success yet. It will have it's day....2 perfect sides. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 The time is right for love Bobby Reed- OBVIOUSLY!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Don't know about it being the ULTIMATE crossover track , but it's a good un ! Top choice!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I would have probably plumped for Richard Caiton as well Gareth , but seeing as you've chosen it my choice is Clyde McPhatter " Anyone can tell [ we're in love ] " from the Decca album " Welcome Home " .Fantastic lyrics and production put this at the top of the Crossover tree for me .Great thread mate ....Best,Eddie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 This one can't be narrowed down to just one, but just for this moment in time I'd go for: Maxine Brown's "Don't leave me baby" on Epic - one 'Epic' performance from the lady! AGREED Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Daved Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I'd vote for Celest Hardy too. i always think of it as the most typical of crossover tunes. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Ella Woods - I need Your Love - Merging 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Blake H Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Narrowed it down to Len Jewel Elevator Song or Alex Brown I'm not Responsible. I'll ponder some more and eliminate one! BH Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Seagrave Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 No competition for this at all, Mel Britt - She'll Come Running Back - FIP 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 It's a tie for me: Celete Hardy - You're Gone - Reynolds or Willie Tee - First Taste Of Hurt - Gatur Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Way too many to decide. With Dave on Guitar Ray as one of them though. Achingly soulful and moving 45! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Reg Scott Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 As you say Gareth the definition of 'crossover' is difficult to say the least. However, for the price conscious anything by Candi Staton on Fame, BUT my single choice (atm) is: Almeta Lattimore - These Memories - Mainstream Just Beautiful! Regards, Greg. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
manus Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 George Benson My woman's good to me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul-s Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Double O domingos - Color One Tear Black Part 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul-s Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Willie Wright "Right On for The Darkness" on Hotel Xover...NO WAY! Thats proper superb ghetto soul/funk.. Think this will be a hard thread Gareth, as we all define it very differently...anyway, lets keep trying.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Double O domingos - Color One Tear Black Part 1 I'm still after this if anyone can oblige, apologies for going off thread. Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Impossible to nail one really, but Chuck Cockerham - Have I the Right - Mala, has gotta be up there. Also: Detroit Sounds of Friction Tierra Earls on Tee Ti etc, etc Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Patrinell Staten? We could be here all day........ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roger Williams Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) If I think of 'crossover', Gene Middleton 'No One To Love Me' on Funk Factory is always without fail the first record that springs to mind: Love it. Edited March 25, 2010 by Soulsorts Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 The Volumes - I've Never Been So In Love or The Differences - Five Minutes It just goes to show that one man's Northern is another man's crossover. I'd have put the Volumes very firmly in the bag labelled 'Northern', the tempo and style say so..... Since John's allready baggsied Chuck Ray, then I'll go for Robert Tanner - Sweet Memories.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
arnie j Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 MARGIE JOSEPH - ONE MORE CHANCE - loads of first choices already taken,mel britt,guitar ray etc,so ill plump for this one,great thread,could go on a long time ! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Xover...NO WAY! Thats proper superb ghetto soul/funk.. Think this will be a hard thread Gareth, as we all define it very differently...anyway, lets keep trying.. Right from the intro guitar riff you know that's never a crossover tune..... love it to death but I think your label defines it a whole lot better.... otherwise I'll claim Prince George - DPG.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
arnie j Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 OSCAR WRIGHT - FELL IN LOVE - or this one please ? jason Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
binsy Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Willie Tee - Teasin you again, so reminds me of Parkers. Brilliant times Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 If I think of 'crossover', Gene Middleton 'No One To Love Me' on Funk Factory is always without fail the first record that springs to mind: Love it. great choice Roger , best wishes ,Eddie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) Impossible to nail one really, but Chuck Cockerham - Have I the Right - Mala, has gotta be up there. Also: Detroit Sounds of Friction Tierra Earls on Tee Ti etc, etc Russ Still can't bring down to just one, Chuck Cockerham would have to be up there and on the slower side Johnny Gilliam - Room full of tears Edited March 25, 2010 by Dave Thorley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rob Wigley Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 OR The Old Codgers "My feet can't dance to fast records(anymore)" on I'll Buy Slower Records Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Reg Scott Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Xover...NO WAY! Thats proper superb ghetto soul/funk.. Think this will be a hard thread Gareth, as we all define it very differently...anyway, lets keep trying.. I dunno Paul, for me the Willie Wright "Right On for The Darkness" on Hotel has got enough soulful intent to just 'crossover'. As you say, traditionally a ghetto funk tune of quality and a cover that more than does justice to the original Curtis Mayfield 'Back To The World' album cut. ATB Greg. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Skegsoul Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) So very hard to pick one choon from so many crap records, but for me would have to be ; Ernie johnson " i can't stand the pain" artco. A close run thing tho' with Bobby wilburn/Burn "dreamer" & Pschedlic frankie"putting you out my life" pushing Ernie close. Edited March 25, 2010 by SKEGSOUL Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
binsy Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Still can't bring down to just one, Chuck Cockerham would have to be up there and on the slower side Johnny Gilliam - Room full of tears I remember you playing Johnny gilliam covered up at Stafford Dave. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) I'll go for Robert Tanner - Sweet Memories.... Cracking choice Cliff, the other side's great too. Kinda takes away some of the sting off the hefty price tag Edited March 25, 2010 by John Reed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted March 25, 2010 Author Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) I dunno Paul, for me the Willie Wright "Right On for The Darkness" on Hotel has got enough soulful intent to just 'crossover'. As you say, traditionally a ghetto funk tune of quality and a cover that more than does justice to the original Curtis Mayfield 'Back To The World' album cut. ATB Greg. I was always under the impression that Willie Wright's version pre-dated the Back To The World cut by quite a few years. It's only a theory but I wonder if Curtis Mayfield didn't specifically write the song for him. Finally getting to see a copy of the 45 was instructive too, featuring a Boston address and an incorrect telephone number with the area code scratched out and corrected in biro. I wonder if all of the pitifully few copies which survive are like this. Whatever genre it's classed in this is one of the greatest soul records of all to me. Edited August 19, 2012 by garethx 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jaco Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Amongst those already mentioned particularly Robert Tanner, Chuck Cockerham and Bernard Smith, I always think (rightly or wrongly) of Garfield Fleming - "Don't send me away" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Mark Holmes Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Has to be Emmit Long - Call Me Incredible slice of music Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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