grant Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 anyone tell me which one is the first issue? im guessing not the one with the 'i' on the label? Any difference in price between them. Thanks Grant
Bigsoulman Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) anyone tell me which one is the first issue? im guessing not the one with the 'i' on the label? Any difference in price between them. Thanks Grant Top one is original Grant but never seen the bottom one before but would think it's a re-release Lenny Edited March 10, 2010 by BIGSOULMAN
Guest Perry Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 anyone tell me which one is the first issue? im guessing not the one with the 'i' on the label? Any difference in price between them. Thanks Grant Remember sometime back in the mid 70's John Anderson gave me a copy of the original pink issue. Asked him about it in Soul Bowl and he said he'd bring me a copy in from home, i thought oh yeah, i'll never see that, next time i went in he handed me a copy. Mind you ,I did used to spend rather a lot from my wages in there every week!.
grant Posted March 10, 2010 Author Posted March 10, 2010 Top one is original Grant but never seen the bottom one before but would think it's a re-release Lenny thanks Lenny, first time ive seen the bottom one too, sure the re-release came out on the multi-coloured palm tree island label..... anyone?
45cellar Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) thanks Lenny, first time ive seen the bottom one too, sure the re-release came out on the multi-coloured palm tree island label..... anyone? Yes, this one a second issue, I bought my copy around 1969/70 However, it was from a record shop just as it was to be deleted if memory serves. I bought their last 2 copies, could be that the design changed while still on catalogue. Edited March 10, 2010 by 45cellar
Benelew Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 thanks Lenny, first time ive seen the bottom one too, sure the re-release came out on the multi-coloured palm tree island label..... anyone? Yeah, funny this. Top one seen most often as original in my view. Bottom could be label redesign rather than a formal second release. 70s reissue definitely couloured Palm Tree and there's also an EP on Sue label with Anglos (from late 70s i think). Jorge
45cellar Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 Yes, this one a second issue, I bought my copy around 1969/70 However, it was from a record shop just as it was to be deleted if memory serves. I bought their last 2 copies, could be that the design changed while still on catalogue. Yeah, funny this. Top one seen most often as original in my view. Bottom could be label redesign rather than a formal second release. 70s reissue definitely couloured Palm Tree and there's also an EP on Sue label with Anglos (from late 70s i think). Jorge Yes, that's what I suspect may have happened. I used to go to the local record shop asking for titles that I had heard at the Youth Club & Local Disco. Many titles were deleted by that time, but I used to trawl through the catalogue just in case. If I remember correctly, Julien Covey I had to order, when It arrived the lady took 2 copies from the shelf & passed one to me. I said is the other ordered for anyone, she said no we just ordered 2 copies, 1 to re-stock, so I bought both. It may well be that I caught the end of the Initial release, which had undergone a design change during that time.
Bigsoulman Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) Yeah, funny this. Top one seen most often as original in my view. Bottom could be label redesign rather than a formal second release. 70s reissue definitely couloured Palm Tree and there's also an EP on Sue label with Anglos (from late 70s i think). Jorge Yes the palm tree was a 70s issue. Slightly off topic, a mate of mine from Nottingham said Covey was still playing in the area, can anyone confirm this?, also this must be the only record he ever made as I can't find anything else by him, strange really as ALBH was a massive club tune when it first came out Lenny Edited March 10, 2010 by BIGSOULMAN
Pete S Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 tHE BOTTOM ONE ISN'T A REISSUE, IT WAS JUST STILL ON CATALOGUE WHEN THEY CHANGED LABEL DESIGN. But it is tougher than the first pink label.
45cellar Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 tHE BOTTOM ONE ISN'T A REISSUE, IT WAS JUST STILL ON CATALOGUE WHEN THEY CHANGED LABEL DESIGN. But it is tougher than the first pink label. Many Thanks for confirming Pete, thought that was the case.
Pete S Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 Many Thanks for confirming Pete, thought that was the case. I'm getting deja vu here Roger, we did this topic before I think!
Guest Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) 1968 First press with the red, black & pink "EYE" logo on the left hand side! 1970 white "I" logo left hand side. Actually this press is the rarest of it's 3 UK releases Edited March 10, 2010 by john manship
grant Posted March 10, 2010 Author Posted March 10, 2010 1968 First press with the red, black & pink "EYE" logo on the left hand side! 1970 white "I" logo left hand side. Actually this press is the rarest of it's 3 UK releases so £26 well spent?
Pete S Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) 1968 First press with the red, black & pink "EYE" logo on the left hand side! 1970 white "I" logo left hand side. Actually this press is the rarest of it's 3 UK releases It's not a 1970 press, it's a label change of the 1968 pressing right at the end of it's time on catalogue, if it was 'pressed' in 1970, when it was getting played, why aren't there thousands of copies about? The authority on British labels from Stotfold will confirm this. Edited March 13, 2010 by Pete S
Dave Pinch Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 It's not a 1970 press, it's a label change of the 1968 pressing right at the end of it's time on catalogue, if it was 'pressed' in 1970, when it was getting played, why aren't there thousands of copies about? The authority on British labels from Stotfold will confirm this. not wanting to split hairs with anyone but the first issue is july 1967. the other pink one came sometime between july 1969 & nov 1970. but its a safe bet to say it was originaly on catalogue for 3 years dave
Pete S Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 not wanting to split hairs with anyone but the first issue is july 1967. the other pink one came sometime between july 1969 & nov 1970. but its a safe bet to say it was originaly on catalogue for 3 years dave You are correct of course. I have the VIP's - Straight Down To The Bottom WIP-6005 plainly stating 1967 on the label.
Dave Pinch Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 You are correct of course. I have the VIP's - Straight Down To The Bottom WIP-6005 plainly stating 1967 on the label. just pulled a few pink islands out, i think nirvana, penticost hotel (6020) from september 67 is bloody marvelous........... i`ll get me coat dave
Pete S Posted March 13, 2010 Posted March 13, 2010 just pulled a few pink islands out, i think nirvana, penticost hotel (6020) from september 67 is bloody marvelous........... i`ll get me coat dave I've got that as well LOL
Guest Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Yeah, funny this. Top one seen most often as original in my view. Bottom could be label redesign rather than a formal second release. 70s reissue definitely couloured Palm Tree and there's also an EP on Sue label with Anglos (from late 70s i think). Jorge Does anyone know the value of this 'Anglos' original "Since you've been gone/Small town Boy on 'Shiptown label'......?
Wiggyflat Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 I've got that as well LOL And me..also got Rainbow Chaser,What A Performance and a few others.Some great stuff on Uk Island, Sarolta L.OV.E (Version of Jackie Edwards) and some Wynder K Frog stuff.Wasn't he supposed to be Mick Weaver?
Pomonkey Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 You could have fun trying to buy all the different European picture sleeve variations of Julien Covey, have seen a myriad variations over the years Sarolta's story is epic, she was proposed to by not one but two of the Bee Gees and is now locked up in her native Hungary for embezzlement!!
Wiggyflat Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 You could have fun trying to buy all the different European picture sleeve variations of Julien Covey, have seen a myriad variations over the years Sarolta's story is epic, she was proposed to by not one but two of the Bee Gees and is now locked up in her native Hungary for embezzlement!! Jesus....banged up.I have another track by her on President which is good.Did she do any other tracks in the UK?I've a foreign piccie of a little bit hurt with a crowd picture in hysterics.Had a picture of Julian in a fur coat fom an old NME.One band from the UK I would like info on is Harlem Johns Reshuffle. They were a northern mod band from 69....lp has covers of That Driving Beat and Looking For A Fox,
Pomonkey Posted April 8, 2010 Posted April 8, 2010 Forget the dodgy song, here's my favourite clip of her, total Magyar Fox
Chris L Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 anyone tell me which one is the first issue? im guessing not the one with the 'i' on the label? Any difference in price between them. Thanks Grant I've always been of the opnion that this was the re-issue............................
Wiggyflat Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 (edited) I've always been of the opnion that this was the re-issue............................ It is the reissue.Total pink first issue,Island with (i) second issue, reissue yellow palm tree.Jackie Edwards I Feel So Bad is also on the red white Island original and yellow palm (reissue) but the yellow palm still goes for 40 to 50 quid.Got about 6 or 7 UK Jackie albums which I might post up in the collecting British section.Jackie was schizophrenic in his output with soul/pop/christian/bluebeat/reggae and M.O.R..Loads of labels as well Trojan/Island/Alladin/Fontana etc.Only got about 3 good tracks on Alladin,Prince and Princess and 1 Jackie Edwards track (Hush).His He'll Have to Go is a bit duff and an OK Owen Gray track.....over to Pete Smith re any other good Alladin stuff.Ive stuck a Jackie Edwards acetate in my last post on collecting British. Edited April 9, 2010 by wiggyflat
Philippe Posted April 9, 2010 Posted April 9, 2010 I found this : THE CHANGING FACE OF ISLAND RECORDS, 1967-1970 The 1st pink label design. Note the lowercase 'island' and orange/ black circle logo. Pink label design No. 2 from late 1969: the so-called 'black block' pressing. The 3rd and most common pink label design, with its large lower-case 'i'. The pink labels finally gave way to this 'palm tree' or 'pink rim' design.
bri pinch Posted April 10, 2010 Posted April 10, 2010 I found this : THE CHANGING FACE OF ISLAND RECORDS, 1967-1970 The 1st pink label design. Note the lowercase 'island' and orange/ black circle logo. Pink label design No. 2 from late 1969: the so-called 'black block' pressing. The 3rd and most common pink label design, with its large lower-case 'i'. The pink labels finally gave way to this 'palm tree' or 'pink rim' design. LOVE TO HAVE ALL THOSE NICK DRAKE LP'S WITH THESE LABLE DESIGNS BRII PINCH SUNDAY CHILLOUT@ HORSE AND GROOM, 25TH APRIL, EAST LAITH GATE, DONCASTER.
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