Elvis Presley - Soul Music - Viva Las Vegas

[Sunnysoul]

I was watching Elvis' classic movie "Viva Las Vegas" for the 62nd time last night when I was reminded of the club scene where this brilliant black RnB group comes on stage and does this superb dance number called "The Climb" .. but I had never bothered to research who the hell they were!!!

Well they are the Jubilee Four !!! Check 'em out !!!

https://www.youtube.c...h?v=pXcgKpiTuo8

And they are immediately followed by Elvis himself doing a cover version of Ray Charles' "What I'd Say".

Did Elvis have any "soul" ??? You decide ....

Edited March 7, 2010 by sunnysoul

[Guest]

I was watching Elvis' classic movie "Viva Las Vegas" for the 62nd time last night when I was reminded of the club scene where this brilliant black RnB group comes on stage and does this superb dance number called "The Climb" .. but I had never bothered to research who the hell they were!!!

Well they are the Jubilee Four !!! Check 'em out !!!

https://www.youtube.c...h?v=pXcgKpiTuo8

And they are immediately followed by Elvis himself doing a cover version of Ray Charles' "What I'd Say".

Did Elvis have any "soul" ??? You decide ....

" Rubbernecking " was played on the scene in the early 70s .

As for The Jubilee Four , they were a gospel / spiritual singing group formed in the early 1920s , and made two film appearances , the first being a 1924 film about themselves , and the other being " VLV " in 1964 . They made several US TV appearances between 1961 and 1964 , with the last time being in an episode of "The Hollywood Palace " in 1964 . Sadly not much background information on the internet about them .

A CD - " Greatest Spirituals " - was released in 1996 by Quicksilver , but is now deleted .

Malc Burton

Edited March 7, 2010 by Malc Burton

[Rob Wigley]

" Rubbernecking " was played on the scene in the early 70s .

As for The Jubilee Four , they were a gospel singing group formed in the early 1920s , and performed in several films between 1924 and 1964 ( including " VLV " ) , with the last time being in an episode of the US TV series " "The Hollywood Palace " in 1964 . Not much information on the internet about them .

Malc Burton

All Panty hose, girdles and under wired bras them were the days aye Godfrey? The Jubilee 4 went on to appear in Dads Army-where they were shot by Pike, as they parachuted in to perform at Sgt Wilsons 60th birthday party.

Pike had never seen a black face before and presumed they were German spys.

Elvis's hair style has recently been voted, by men, as the greatest haircut ever.

The more you find out about Elvis you realise just how good he was-I'm a big fan of his music and I'm lucky enough to have been to Graceland a couple of times-Poor white boy made good-very polite and just an all round nice guy with a great voice.

Rob

[Guest]

All Panty hose, girdles and under wired bras them were the days aye Godfrey? The Jubilee 4 went on to appear in Dads Army-where they were shot by Pike, as they parachuted in to perform at Sgt Wilsons 60th birthday party.

Pike had never seen a black face before and presumed they were German spys.

[b]Elvis's hair style has recently been voted, by men, as the greatest haircut ever.

Priceless - but be careful Rob , or you will end up as daft as I am

" Elvis's hair style has recently been voted, by men, as the greatest haircut ever " ?

This must have been the results of a poll done on " T'Scene " , when most of the males these days who are sans

barnets , harken back - and wish for - the days of their youth ........

This could be give us a killing in / for Northern Soul Marketing Rob - " Elvis Casino Syrups "

As foe EP's Vocal talent , I really like the early Sun recordings : a lot of balls in that voice

Malc Burton

Edited March 7, 2010 by Malc Burton

[AlanB]

I watched the VLV DVD recently too and was also impressed by The Climb . On the DVD commentary feature it says the track was recorded by the lead singer of the Jubileee Four but the backing vocals, oddly, were by the Jordanaires (Elvis's backing group) and Elvis.

Alan

[Guest]

I watched the VLV DVD recently too and was also impressed by The Climb . On the DVD commentary feature it says the track was recorded by the lead singer of the Jubileee Four but the backing vocals, oddly, were by the Jordanaires (Elvis's backing group) and Elvis.

Alan

The " group " in / for the puposes of " VLV " , performing " The Climb " were called " The Forté Four " , who were a combination of the band The Forté Four , which was fronted by the song's composer , Dan Anthony , The Jubilee Four and The Jordonaires .

Malc Burton

Edited March 7, 2010 by Malc Burton

[Drew3]

I've said it several times on here before, Kentucky Rain is very much a soulful record as far as I'm concerned.

Anyone able to post up a Youtube Clip.

There are several on Youtube but I don't know how to do it.

If some kind person would post one up the simple recording of the song (with stills of Elvis) is the clearest as opposed to the 'live' footage ones.

KTF.

Drew.

Edited March 7, 2010 by Drew3

[Guest soulboy]

I've said it several times on here before, Kentucky Rain is very much a soulful record as far as I'm concerned.

Anyone able to post up a Youtube Clip.

There are several on Youtube but I don't know how to do it.

If some kind person would post one up the simple recording of the song (with stills of Elvis) is the clearest as opposed to the 'live' footage ones.

KTF.

Drew.

agree great record' in the ghetto' is a fav to, he had a great voice ,if you listen to anyone who can sing ,then listen to them live ! thats the test Elvis could do it with out any effort what so ever ,

Edited March 7, 2010 by soulboy

[Guest JIM BARRY]

to a lot of people elvis in later life became a bit of a joke, i,e fat elvis. when ou see somebody doing a tribute its always in the white jump suit. for me the comeback special in '68 epitomised what the guy was all about, the songs , the moody look i wanted to be him. couple of years after that came what i believe to be the golden years, in the ghetto suspicious minds, kentucky rain,just can't help believin, don't cry daddy always on my mind ,the wonder of you and the fabulous if i can dream, and american trilogy yes the guy had soul and what a great legasy he left behind.

[Guest]

ELVIS PRESLEY - ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE - RCA LP -

[Chalky]

to a lot of people elvis in later life became a bit of a joke, i,e fat elvis. when ou see somebody doing a tribute its always in the white jump suit. for me the comeback special in '68 epitomised what the guy was all about, the songs , the moody look i wanted to be him. couple of years after that came what i believe to be the golden years, in the ghetto suspicious minds, kentucky rain,just can't help believin, don't cry daddy always on my mind ,the wonder of you and the fabulous if i can dream, and american trilogy yes the guy had soul and what a great legasy he left behind.

he might have been a joke to some but he still had his voice. He was still a great talent even over weight but at the end of the day it was vegas and he was a showman, what vegas is all about. My favourite singer away from soul music. He paved the way for popular music. I've quite a few dvd's of his shows from the 70's including his last ever show.

[Ceejay]

to a lot of people elvis in later life became a bit of a joke, i,e fat elvis. when ou see somebody doing a tribute its always in the white jump suit. for me the comeback special in '68 epitomised what the guy was all about, the songs , the moody look i wanted to be him. couple of years after that came what i believe to be the golden years, in the ghetto suspicious minds, kentucky rain,just can't help believin, don't cry daddy always on my mind ,the wonder of you and the fabulous if i can dream, and american trilogy yes the guy had soul and what a great legasy he left behind.

LOVE THE 68 COMEBACK SPECIAL - ELVIS AT HIS BEST.

TO ANSWER THE QUESTION 'HAS ELVIS GOT SOUL' - I ONLY HAVE TO LISTEN TO 'IF I CAN DREAM' AND THE ANSWER IS DEFINITELY YES!!!!

[Guest]

oh happy day

Edited March 7, 2010 by ken

[Rhino]

the guy with the deep voice in the you tube clip(viva lost vegas) sounds like he could have sung pyramid or is it the stella

Edited March 7, 2010 by rhino

[Baz Atkinson]

You cant be brought up in Tupelo at that point in history and not be influenced by gospel-his fav singer was Jake hess and elvis does gospel -is deffo worth a listen-lets face it folks sam phillips wanted the R/B sound to the wider audience -its really good to see this even discussed !!!

BAZ A

[Baz Atkinson]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=gospel+elvis&tag=googhydr-21&index=music&hvadid=4944775655&ref=pd_sl_5pf1hd06co_b

WORTH A LOOK FOLKS!!!

[Ady Croasdell]

A lot of his 60s film songs were written by Giant, Baum & Kaye of Lou Johnson Big Top soul fame.

[Simsy]

Did Elvis have any "soul" ?

[Baz Atkinson]

Really good read this -imo sheds a bit light on the gospel side etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley

[Windlesoul]

How about this then - thanks Craig Butler for putting me onto this!

Elvis and Roy Hamilton, AGP sessions was it Craig?

Always thought Elvis would do a fab version of Heartache hurry on by.....

Edited March 7, 2010 by mark w.

[Guest]

let yourself go (with the Blossoms)

The original and best

Edited March 7, 2010 by ken

[Guest soulboy]

may be if he hadnt been so big, we would have been playing his sfuff out and about ,look at tom jones no one can say he aint got soul !so i for one agree the big man had it big time .

[Shsdave]

Nothing wrong with a bit of Elvis, wouldn't want to hear it at a soul nite tho'

Has he got soul? Listen to Kens clip of "Only the Strong survive" & then listen to Jerry Butlers version for the real deal

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

some good stuff here that he did and can't argue with fact he could sing and does have soul but i do prefer to hear soul singers

[Geoff]

It was through Elvis that I came to black music when I was just in secondary school. I heard his versions of songs like Money Honey and I Got A Sweetie (Woman) and found out that they were originally recorded by black singers (Drifters and Ray Charles) and were classed as Rhythm and Blues. This sparked an interest in original versions of songs that he and other rock'n'roll singers recorded. It wasn't easy in those days to hear the original black versions, many were never issued in the UK at the time. That interest led me onto the R&B sounds from the states in the very early 60s and onto soul music.

Did he have soul? Yes, but he's not a soul singer, there is a difference imo. I think he was the best all round pop singer ever, could tackle most styles of music with conviction. Forget about those awful film soundtracks, listen to his pre-Army RCA records, and many good ones after the army.

Molly played Elvis's version of Any Day Now at Bedford last year. To me not as good as Chuck Jackson, but that is one of my favourite records anyway.

Generally not for a soul night, but great to just listen to him otherwise.

[Guest soulboy]

HE MUST HAVE WATCHED JACKIE WILSON IN HIS EARLY DAYS ,HIS STYLE ,LOOKS , THE WAY HE DANCED SO MUCH LIKE HIM !

[Guest JIM BARRY]

HE MUST HAVE WATCHED JACKIE WILSON IN HIS EARLY DAYS ,HIS STYLE ,LOOKS , THE WAY HE DANCED SO MUCH LIKE HIM !

elvis was late for a recording session one day. he arrived at the studio raving about seeing a guy in concert that he thought was unbeleivable....jackie wilson

[Guest soulboy]

This made me get elvis out again and i notice the name Otis Blackwell ? is the the Otis that we know

[Guest]

This made me get elvis out again and i notice the name Otis Blackwell ? is the the Otis that we know

Yes

[jocko]

Cmon Ken, don't forget your new responsibilities, it has the E word, get it over to Freebasing, can't have one rule for some......

And somebody already answered it he might have been soulful, in some peoples opinion, but he aint a soul singer, so Freebasing NOW

[Guest]

Cmon Ken, don't forget your new responsibilities, it has the E word, get it over to Freebasing, can't have one rule for some......

And somebody already answered it he might have been soulful, in some peoples opinion, but he aint a soul singer, so Freebasing NOW

Not my area of responsability Jock,so find the mod who is

[Liamgp]

Cmon Ken, don't forget your new responsibilities, it has the E word, get it over to Freebasing, can't have one rule for some......

And somebody already answered it he might have been soulful, in some peoples opinion, but he aint a soul singer, so Freebasing NOW

I'd rather talk about Ann-Margaret anyway!