'dipping' Records In Boiling Water - It Works

[Guest]

Having recieved a battered copy of GERALDINE CURRY 'You're so wonderful' as a birthday present, I played it and found that whilst there were no proper jumps or 'stuck' problems, the copy omitted an awful lot of background hisses, pops, crackles and a regular loud recurring noise at the beginning...

As I've done before with seriously damaged records, I boiled up a saucepan of hot water and repeatedly 'dipped' the disc in and out of the water - keeping it at boliing temperature for the next hour - for 2 seconds at a time, then immediately drying each time with a pure cotton cloth.

Result? 60-70 per cent improvement, the record plays much better now and would definetly be playable on a deck via big speakers etc. Most hisses and pops virtually inaudible at loud volume and the prominent noise at the beginning significantly reduced.

An old Rock'n'Roll dealer showed me this trick years ago but you have to be very careful, not to exceed the 2 second limit or you will see your record warp in front of your eyes! So best reserved for cheapos or as I said, seriously damaged vinyl.

Probably discussed many times before but so delighted with the result this morning had to share it!

Edited March 1, 2010 by chorleysoul

[Guest SteveJohnston]

Having recieved a battered copy of GERALDINE CURRY 'You're so wonderful' as a birthday present, I played it and found that whilst there were no proper jumps or 'stuck' problems, the copy omitted an awful lot of background hisses, pops, crackles and a regular loud recurring noise at the beginning...

As I've done before with seriously damaged records, I boiled up a saucepan of hot water and repeatedly 'dipped' the disc in and out of the water - keeping it at boliing temperature for the next hour - for 2 seconds at a time, then immediately drying each time with a pure cotton cloth.

Result? 60-70 per cent improvement, the record plays much better now and would definetly be playable on a deck via big speakers etc. Most hisses and pops virtually inaudible at loud volume and the prominent noise at the beginning significantly reduced.

An old Rock'n'Roll dealer showed me this trick years ago but you have to be very careful, not to exceed the 2 second limit or you will see your record warp in front of your eyes! So best reserved for cheapos or as I said, seriously damaged vinyl.

Probably discussed many times before but so delighted with the result this morning had to share it!

I thought today was 1st of March not April

Steve J

Edited March 1, 2010 by SteveJohnston

[Kev Harker]

I thought today was 1st of March not April

Steve J

:D

nice one ,

kev

[Pete S]

I thought today was 1st of March not April

Steve J

It will work Steve.

I used to do it using the steam from a boiling kettle.

Dave K says it works if you pour boiled water (left for 40 seconds) over a 45.

Note that I only refer to british records pressed by EMI (liberty, ua, stateside etc)

I once tried it with Anthony & The Aqualads (found in a shop in Eastbourne!) and it made the vinyl look terrible

[Donkit]

It will work Steve.

I used to do it using the steam from a boiling kettle.

Dave K says it works if you pour boiled water (left for 40 seconds) over a 45.

Note that I only refer to british records pressed by EMI (liberty, ua, stateside etc)

I once tried it with Anthony & The Aqualads (found in a shop in Eastbourne!) and it made the vinyl look terrible

Yes, but did it play Pete ?

Don

[Mace]

I've discovered you can remove warps from records by leaving them on a tarmac drive on a hot sunny day for 2 hours, and then reversing over them in your motor.

Please note, you must use reverse and tyres must be at 28PSI max.

[Guest]

It will work Steve.

I used to do it using the steam from a boiling kettle.

Dave K says it works if you pour boiled water (left for 40 seconds) over a 45.

Note that I only refer to british records pressed by EMI (liberty, ua, stateside etc)

I once tried it with Anthony & The Aqualads (found in a shop in Eastbourne!) and it made the vinyl look terrible

They can sneer all they want mate, the geezer who showed me how to do it has been selling records for 40 years and he still has a shop doing just that so maybe he just might have picked up a few tricks along the way.

The first record I ever did it with was a UK ATLANTIC demo copy of MARY WELLS 'Dear Lover'. It sounded bloody awful and was badly marked. After a day's careful treatment, it actually plays really well now and that was a diabolical record for hiss and pops.

The most notable one I ever did was a US MINIT copy of THE PLAYERS 'Why did you lie'. I bought it for a dollar in Greenwich Village and it looked like half of New York had been ice skating on it, sound was well poor. When I finished it plays as Ex, brilliant thru a deck, yet if you look at the vinyl you'd never believe it plays at all.

I have fucked up a few when I first did it, a copy of FOUR TOPS 'Something about you' warped when I left it in for longer than 2 secs and you have to make sure you dry it with something that absorbs the hot water immediately. It's something I reserve for drastic cases when you just would not bother to play the record unless something improves. Obviously the GERALDINE CURRY would be quite a valuable record if it was in good nick but thats the whole point. It was sounding diabolical before, no point in having a record you cannot play, so now I have a very nice tune which I can play at home or out.

If they don't believe it, what can I say?

Edited March 1, 2010 by chorleysoul

[Kevinkent]

I tried it but it made the peas taste of plastic.

[John Al]

I tried it but it made the peas taste of plastic.

Funny though, I was just thinking - I'd like to dip some of YOURS in boiling water.

[Phild]

Just tried this with my recently purchased George Lemons. It's now fooked !

[Guest Matt Male]

I did it with a copy of Joey Delorezo - Wake up to the sunshine girl.

I left it in for two hours, just to make sure the bastard would never play again... it worked

[Soulie80]

I did it with a copy of Joey Delorezo - Wake up to the sunshine girl.

I left it in for two hours, just to make sure the bastard would never play again... it worked

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

BOB SAYS...

Edited March 1, 2010 by soulie80

[Soulcarp]

Just tried this with my recently purchased George Lemons. It's now fooked !

what about "mama p"are you goner try it on that............????????????????? lol johno

[Phild]

what about "mama p"are you goner try it on that............????????????????? lol johno

Absolutely. I'll get the knack sooner or later

[Guest]

Absolutely. I'll get the knack sooner or later

Glad you're having fun boys, what about getting your charts into the TOP 100 thread, whilst your pissing about!

[Soulcarp]

Glad you're having fun boys, what about getting your charts into the TOP 100 thread, whilst your pissing about!

LOL

[Phild]

Chart? I don't even have an A to Z

[Wiggyflat]

what about "mama p"are you goner try it on that............????????????????? lol johno

My George Lemons has just warped............fashhhhhhhhhhhhhionating gurrrrrrrrrllllll thats whattttttttttt uuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrr..Best pub singer northern tune in ages.

[dthedrug]

Yes, but did it play Pete ?

Don

This method does work, I Have used this method many many times! as I said to Pete practice on loads of JACK 1St, best results are when you ware ribber gloves, and pour water of both sides from the kettle centre outwards, this system of restoring plastic shine was use on toys if they had sun fade, but the dealer would just toss it straight into the boiling water?? have a go. I have never used this method on any records that are not in the EMI group DAVE KIL

[Suinoz]

This method does work, I Have used this method many many times! as I said to Pete practice on loads of JACK 1St, best results are when you ware ribber gloves, and pour water of both sides from the kettle centre outwards, this system of restoring plastic shine was use on toys if they had sun fade, but the dealer would just toss it straight into the boiling water?? have a go. I have never used this method on any records that are not in the EMI group DAVE KIL

Ouch !! just hooked my finger through the centre hole of Lester Tipton, dipped it in boiling water and now have third degree burns to my right hand. Won't be using it for some time to come ( not an intended pun ) Am i doing something wrong ??

[Guest Heartnsoul]

I tried it but it made the peas taste of plastic.

Perhaps you should have used a copy of 'Memhis Soul Stew' for tastier results!

[Agentsmith]

My George Lemons has just warped............fashhhhhhhhhhhhhionating gurrrrrrrrrllllll thats whattttttttttt uuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrr..Best pub singer northern tune in ages.

DUNNO ABOUT GEORGE LEMONS MATE,.......SSSSSSSSSSSOUNDS LIKE B B B B BLOODY ARKWRIGHT,I SAID ARKWRIGHT.....ARE THEE LLLLLLLLISTENIN' LAD?

rob.h

[Mick Sway]

I ain't laughed so much in a week!

nice one guys, keep it up!!!!

Cheers

Mick

[Soulcarp]

Just tried this with my recently purchased George Lemons. It's now fooked

Phil,don't you mean cooked

[Guest SteveJohnston]

I was going to have a go at this on my copy of Four Blow Zero (to give it a fighting chance) but when i took the record out of it's cover somthing told me this is going to fooking warp this buger! it must of been ESP

Edited March 2, 2010 by SteveJohnston

[Soulcarp]

I was going to have a go at this on my copy of Four Blow Zero (to give it a fighting chance) but when i took the record out of it's cover somthing told me this is going to fooking warp this buger! it must of been ESP

lol

[Soulman]

I had an original first issue of the checker board squares called cookin'. Wasn't clean at all. Dipped it boiling water a couple of times and the results were tremendous. Somehow the title mysteriously changed to Double Cookin tho

[Guest Matt Male]

I dropped Sliced Tomatoes in the water. Best spag bog i've ever had.

[Guest]

I dropped Sliced Tomatoes in the water. Best spag bog i've ever had.

And thats funny is it. Yeah ok mate.

[Premium Stuff]

It would never work on styrene.

I warped a styrene 45 just by wiping it round quickly with a soft cloth dipped in hot(ish) water

Cheers

Richard

[Pete S]

And thats funny is it. Yeah ok mate.

Rich, chill out, ignore these heathens, let them keep their crappy, scratchy records why we vinyl-boilers have smart, shiny, new-looking 45's.

[Guest SteveJohnston]

Rich, chill out, ignore these heathens, let them keep their crappy, scratchy records why we vinyl-boilers have smart, shiny, new-looking 45's.

Pete come on it's only a bit of fun no need to call us all "heathens" . Tell you what mate I'll send you a copy of the Rosebuds on Tower if you can inprove the sound without a warp i'll be very happy to pay for the service.

Steve J

[Pete S]

Pete come on it's only a bit of fun no need to call us all "heathens"

Was only joking...

[Ritchieandrew]

Ouch !! just hooked my finger through the centre hole of Lester Tipton, dipped it in boiling water and now have third degree burns to my right hand. Won't be using it for some time to come ( not an intended pun ) Am i doing something wrong ??

Are you shure "This won't change"...............................

Ricardo.

[Guest]

It would never work on styrene.

I warped a styrene 45 just by wiping it round quickly with a soft cloth dipped in hot(ish) water

Cheers

Richard

Can you direct me to the thread advising this treatment for styrene? (I'm so chilled Pete, I might start laughing in a minute!)

Edited March 3, 2010 by chorleysoul

[Ian Dewhirst]

I've discovered you can remove warps from records by leaving them on a tarmac drive on a hot sunny day for 2 hours, and then reversing over them in your motor.

Please note, you must use reverse and tyres must be at 28PSI max.

Damn. Just tried that and f*cked my warped Matta Baby by not realising that my rear tyres are in fact @ 30psi. Please make sure no one else makes the same mistake......

Ian D

[Guest Matt Male]

And thats funny is it. Yeah ok mate.

FFS what a humourless twat.

Edited March 3, 2010 by Matt Male

[Guest Matt Male]

Was only joking...

Blimey Pete, i don't think we're allowed to joke any more. It's the last time i respond to anything of Chorley's on here.

Edited March 3, 2010 by Matt Male

[John A]

FFS what a humourless twat.

In his defence,all he did was come on here and share his "trick" and all you lot have done is take the piss. I've heard of this technique before and woulda liked to have heard more about it. Fat chance now.

[Guest SteveJohnston]

needed all round by the looks of it!

[Guest Matt Male]

In his defence,all he did was come on here and share his "trick" and all you lot have done is take the piss. I've heard of this technique before and woulda liked to have heard more about it. Fat chance now.

I thought i was a good idea as well John and i'll probably give it a go but his reaction to a few jokey comments is just out of order. I can't be bothered with him. I'm starting to think i'm on ChorleySoul Source these days.

[Soulcarp]

come on girls & boys lets not lose track of this its only good fun and no doubt i will try this on a few of my records when i get home and will let ever one know how i got on

[Guest]

In his defence,all he did was come on here and share his "trick" and all you lot have done is take the piss. I've heard of this technique before and woulda liked to have heard more about it. Fat chance now.

Cheers for that mate. I dont need any defending but it's nice to hear a voice of ration. Thing is with some people is that they think it's funny to take the piss out of somebody and when that person does not find it funny, they call him humourless. Yeah, good one that, make somebody the butt of a humourless joke and tell him to enjoy it. Of course it bloody works or I would not have bothered saying so lol! But there's even people on other threads now making remarks about it - as of somebody has advocated it as a method for general cleaning, which is just juvenile. It's a way of saving records that otherwise you'd NEVER play not for yourself or anybody else, so if that is not of interest to these clowns, fair enough. I'm just a Soul fan who likes records. If anybody can give me some good tips on cleaning or 'saving' (DAVE K has indeed done so on here on occasion) them I'm all ears, but I doubt some people will fancy posting any stuff like that after this little charade!

Edited March 3, 2010 by chorleysoul

[Guest]

I thought i was a good idea as well John and i'll probably give it a go but his reaction to a few jokey comments is just out of order. I can't be bothered with him. I'm starting to think i'm on ChorleySoul Source these days.

The sunshine just went out of my life.

[Guest]

FFS what a humourless twat.

That's the other thing I like about it. Now you can insult me as well and I suppose I'm supposed to find that funny too, I suppose?

[Steve G]

aything that can be done with a styrene job that has distortion on it?

[Guest Heartnsoul]

That's the other thing I like about it. Now you can insult me as well and I suppose I'm supposed to find that funny too, I suppose?

.... and I suppose you think I'm supposed to think its ok for you to over use the word 'suppose' ? ....supposedly

[Mark S]

Tune in for next weeks top tip How to clean your shoes with dog shit

But seriosly this boiling water method seems logical , the turbulance caused by the boiling water would dislodge dirt in a sort of ultrasonic way now theres an idea an ultrasonic record cleaner Back to the lab

[Trev Thomas]

FFS what a humourless twat.

have to disagree with you, i heard him sing with his group street heroes in the 80's.......he's definatly got a sense of humour

[Sebastian]

aything that can be done with a styrene job that has distortion on it?

It doesn't "rescue" the record, but for home enjoyment: invest in the new Ortofon 2M stylus (blue, bronze or black editions - not the red one!).

They've done a really good job with the inbuilt frequency curve on that one, it minimizes and sometimes entirely omits styrene noise from being reproduced.