soimeone mentioned this to me today and it brought back a memory of having it on a yellow lable, or am i dreaming, anyway whats the original on ? its doing me head in

Soundville?? yellow label

  On 17/02/2010 at 22:23, John A said:

Soundville?? yellow label

i reckon your right, scan or picture anyone, please

  On 17/02/2010 at 22:27, codfromderby said:

i reckon your right, scan or picture anyone, please

matrix stamped in the run out, not scratched like in the boots hope that helps regards johno

  On 17/02/2010 at 22:37, soulcarp said:

matrix stamped in the run out, not scratched like in the boots hope that helps regards johno

Matrix scratched in but with raised machined 'M ? '

Edited February 17, 201015 yr by MarkWhiteley

  On 17/02/2010 at 23:11, MarkWhiteley said:

Matrix scratched in but with raised machined 'M ? '

you have a boot?????

The copy on Soul Town is a different version of Love Can't Be Modernised on the other side.

  On 17/02/2010 at 23:17, soulcarp said:

you have a boot?????

werent the boots missing the raised 'M' John ?

  On 17/02/2010 at 23:17, Prophonics 2029 said:

The copy on Soul Town is a different version of Love Can't Be Modernised on the other side.

Seen it on the red Soul Town label - is it also about on the yellow?

No I thought this was a later release from 70ts with a Monarch style press in the dead wax but its a different take "Blow Your Horn Joe"

here's a scan of Love Can't Be Modernized off Benji's site....

There's That Mountain is on JM's ROTR but its that small you can hardly see owt! https://www.raresoulm...f-the-rare/T/13

There is a red Soultown one HERE

Edited February 18, 201015 yr by chalky

  On 18/02/2010 at 09:47, chalky said:

here's a scan of Love Can't Be Modernized off Benji's site....

There's That Mountain is on JM's ROTR but its that small you can hardly see owt! https://www.raresoulm...f-the-rare/T/13

There is a red Soultown one HERE

Here's the Red Soultown copy with the Matrix Mark, not sure which Matrix that is, Unusual.

Edited February 18, 201015 yr by 45cellar

This has been discussed in depth (almost!) on another thread from last year I think. Me and Pottsy think the Soultown release is a legit copy, mainly because of the stamp (thanks 45cellar) and the different cut of 'LCBM'.

this looks like a proper one from popsike,

  On 18/02/2010 at 18:30, Soul-Slider said:

This has been discussed in depth (almost!) on another thread from last year I think. Me and Pottsy think the Soultown release is a legit copy, mainly because of the stamp (thanks 45cellar) and the different cut of 'LCBM'.

As far as I know, the Soultown issue is a sound legit release. Agree with the points above by Slider.

Cheers,

Greg.

Edited February 18, 201015 yr by ClearVinyl

  On 17/02/2010 at 23:21, MarkWhiteley said:

werent the boots missing the raised 'M' John ?

was always lead to believe scratch matrix where boots whether stamp m? or not regards johno any one else on here help!

  On 18/02/2010 at 19:27, soulcarp said:

was always lead to believe scratch matrix where boots whether stamp m? or not regards johno any one else on here help!

Yellow Soundville label has a raised H in the dead wax not a raised M as previously mentioned. The boot of the soundville is a exact replica but does'nt have the raised H.

Hope that helps.

Darren

www.raresoul45s.co.uk

Edited February 19, 201015 yr by BROWNIE

  On 18/02/2010 at 19:27, soulcarp said:

was always lead to believe scratch matrix where boots whether stamp m? or not regards johno any one else on here help!

John.....Beaten to it, but my Soultown copy is as the scans above.......PaulB *(Aka DanDAre )

  On 18/02/2010 at 19:27, soulcarp said:

was always lead to believe scratch matrix where boots whether stamp m? or not regards johno any one else on here help!

Hi John, I bought a copy of this a few years back from a well known dealer in the states, when it arrived I was certain it was a boot, so I took it round to John Phillips to compare it with his copy as I knew he had an original, and as you say his copy had the number machine stamped in the runout and the copy I had bought had the number scratched into the runout. I returned the record and received a full refund.

  On 18/02/2010 at 12:06, 45cellar said:

Here's the Red Soultown copy with the Matrix Mark, not sure which Matrix that is, Unusual.

[/quoteIs this it, a little blurred tho.

  On 19/02/2010 at 01:17, Prophonics 2029 said:

Is this it, a little blurred tho.

Yes Mate, Many Thanks for the Picture.

Just wondering which Matrix it is. Anyone know.

Looks very similar to the one's on some 'Atlantic' 45s?

The bottom one is The Sweets on Soul Town!

  On 18/02/2010 at 12:06, 45cellar said:

Here's the Red Soultown copy with the Matrix Mark, not sure which Matrix that is, Unusual.

Were't the red ones re-issues??

  On 19/02/2010 at 16:45, NEV said:

Were't the red ones re-issues??

Well, I bought the Soultown copy in the 70's, think it was 90p

To buy the Soundville Look-A-Like in the 70's I think was £1

the Soundville Look-A-Likes had a Full Label over a Tri-Center,

The Paper label would have needed to be sliced through with a sharp knife & plastic center & paper removed to make it Large center.

So I bought the Soultown copy &

I thought at the time that both were BOOTs 100%,

However, that stamp is Intriguing & apparently the same as The Sweets,

so the Soultown as a re-issue from Source, I would say is almost certain.

Edited February 19, 201015 yr by 45cellar

  On 18/02/2010 at 20:25, BROWNIE said:

Yellow Soundville label has a raised H in the dead wax not a raised M as previously mentioned. The boot of the soundville is a exact replica but does'nt have the raised H.

Hope that helps.

Darren

www.raresoul45s.co.uk

Thanx Darren, armed with me specs this time I have looked again and yes it is a 'H'

M.

  On 19/02/2010 at 11:03, 45cellar said:

Yes Mate, Many Thanks for the Picture.

Just wondering which Matrix it is. Anyone know.

didnt some of the renfro 45`s have this stamp........case of love certainly

dave

  On 19/02/2010 at 18:44, MarkWhiteley said:

Thanx Darren, armed with me specs this time I have looked again and yes it is a 'H'

M.

same stamp as the servicemen on chartmaker & mirwood/ keymen 45`s from hollywood

dave

Edited February 19, 201015 yr by dave pinch

  On 19/02/2010 at 17:33, 45cellar said:

Well, I bought the Soultown copy in the 70's, think it was 90p

To buy the Soundville Look-A-Like in the 70's I think was £1

the Soundville Look-A-Likes had a Full Label over a Tri-Center,

The Paper label would have needed to be sliced through with a sharp knife & plastic center & paper removed to make it Large center.

So I bought the Soultown copy &

I thought at the time that both were BOOTs 100%,

However, that stamp is Intriguing & apparently the same as The Sweets,

so the Soultown as a re-issue from Source, I would say is almost certain.

stamps and all that aside, i,m now confused about the soundville look a likes with a full label, do you mean like a british label ? i,m sure the one i had was styrene with "bubbly" paper label

  On 19/02/2010 at 22:02, codfromderby said:

stamps and all that aside, i,m now confused about the soundville look a likes with a full label, do you mean like a british label ? i,m sure the one i had was styrene with "bubbly" paper label

Yes Like a British Label with a Plastic Tri-center like this one under the labels.

Both sides the center of the Look-A-Like Label could be removed with a Sharp Knife,

Plastic Tri-Center then flipped out

to make a Large Center Disc.

Not sure if all were like this though, but the few that I saw were for some reason.

A little bit like this, but not by using the sticker, Just a full label STUCK over eack side.

Edited February 19, 201015 yr by 45cellar