Jackie Trent, You Baby. Casino Classics Test Press

[Guest]

Thanks Ken

Definately a case of ignorance was absolutely blissful

Probably best if I don't post anymore

Why ? anyway its not like you have ever taken me serously ever before anyway,anybody would think i played this stuff out

Edited February 18, 2010 by ken

[Guest Dale]

...Bev Harrell on Australian HMV - not just pretty good but very good!

I collect versions of this song, I just can't get enough of 'em. Here's my 'You Baby' Top 5!:

1. Len Barry - Decca

2. Linda Scott - Kapp

3. Bev Harrell - (Australian) HMV

4. The Ronettes - Philles

5. Jackie Trent - Pye

MUST AGREE THE BEV HARREL TOPS IT FOR ME WAS CERTAINLY GETTIN SPINS IN OZZ IN O5 BY GOOD OLD JONNY RED PANTS

.

Edited February 18, 2010 by Dale

[Shsdave]

Why ? anyway its not like you have ever taken me serously ever before anyway,anybody would think i played this stuff out

Ha ha sorry Ken I wasn't having a go at you at all mate I was grateful that you had posted Pet to give me the chance to hear it , but personally i thought it bloody awful hence the ignorance is bliss comment.

The only reason I said i wouldn't post anymore was, all that I really had to say was I didn't wanna hear all of this sort of stuff out & I couldn't see the discussion going any further than 2 sides saying my opinion is the right one ........... (when I knew I was right )

I'm surprised you took me seriously ....Now about these des oconner records that i hear you've been covering up

atb

dave

Edited February 18, 2010 by SHSDave

[Guest]

Ha ha sorry Ken I wasn't having a go at you at all mate I was grateful that you had posted Pet to give me the chance to hear it , but personally i thought it bloody awful hence the ignorance is bliss comment.

The only reason I said i wouldn't post anymore was, all that I really had to say was I didn't wanna hear all of this sort of stuff out & I couldn't see the discussion going any further than 2 sides saying my opinion is the right one ........... (when I knew I was right )

I'm surprised you took me seriously ....Now about these des oconner records that i hear you've been covering up

atb

dave

Well at least we can agree on not wanting to hear this stuff out,but at home when no-ones around

[Shsdave]

Well at least we can agree on not wanting to hear this stuff out,but at home when no-ones around

Absolutely mate

[Guest Paul]

I've always loved the Len Barry version, very powerful, no need for inferior versions

[Suinoz]

Because it is a Northern Soul record,like hundreds that were played that are not very soulful but still were popular on the Northern scene.I own a mint Pye copy and always loved it, and there is still room for the odd nostalgia tracks like this to get played,usually the punters love to hear them

EXACTLY... glad someone has a brain !!

[Wiganer1]

i got a pink issue too,,and its still great!,,lol

[Guest]

EXACTLY... glad someone has a brain !!

Yes he's got a propper one,ask him when he last played it out.................now go sell your Leroy for double its price cause you played it once.

[Suinoz]

Yes he's got a propper one,ask him when he last played it out.................now go sell your Leroy for double its price cause you played it once.

Oh dear have i got under your lily white Pommy skin YET again Ken ?? You defo need to get some quality sleep cos your getting ( or have you alway's been ) very negative. We really must stop meeting like this.Crikey talk about putting the cat among the pigeons. I merely asked if the record had been overlooked, NOT to start world war 3 over whether it was liked or approved of. And who's to say any of you are the world's authority on soul music. I have certainly never regarded myself as any sort of expert, just someone who is enthusiastic about the scene as a WHOLE and who IS prepared to move forward. Some of you need to get a life for gawds sake. Snow for brains !!!!!!! certainly comes to mind. Look out ! I have my gloves ready to put on.

[Guest ganesh]

Errr - don't you mean "Be my baby"? - Or did they actually cover "You baby"

I've got "Be my baby" by the Ronnettes on London but can't say I'm aware of "You baby"

they definately covered "you baby" i have a london demo - would scan it but i'm sure - if i can find it - it has a blank label - ie london records etcetc, but no artist and title -

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

they definately covered "you baby" i have a london demo - would scan it but i'm sure - if i can find it - it has a blank label - ie london records etcetc, but no artist and title -

Do some of you people ever read a thread?

I've said this at least twice now -

THE RONETTES IS THE ORIGINAL OF ' YOU BABY'!!!!!

...as I said last time I drew this to everyone's attention, Phil Spector wrote it with Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil. Big clue there, in that the Ronettes were on Spector's label Philles...

Can I also just reiterate that a 'cover' is only a 'cover' if it comes out in direct competition to an original. If it doesn't, it's a revival. As far as I am aware, no other versions of "You Baby" came out in direct competition to the Ronettes, therefore they are all revivals.

See you back here in about 10 postings time to repeat this info, no doubt...

Edited February 19, 2010 by TONY ROUNCE

[Guest ganesh]

you baby -ronettes released on uk london - i have a demo but the label is devoid of artist and title so pointless scan

all this talk of pet clark etc is it time to rake back through my pop collection and put back those tracks into my dj box

how about barbra streisend - corner of the night - uk cbs us columbia

contrasts - what a day - monument

anita harris - the playground - uk cbs

samantha jones - and suddenly/ray of sunshine

bobby goldsboro - it's too late/longer than forever/hold on/she chased me/too many people/love arrestor

karen young - are you kidding - (what's her release on major minor?)

[Pete S]

you baby -ronettes released on uk london - i have a demo but the label is devoid of artist and title so pointless scan

all this talk of pet clark etc is it time to rake back through my pop collection and put back those tracks into my dj box

how about barbra streisend - corner of the night - uk cbs us columbia

contrasts - what a day - monument

anita harris - the playground - uk cbs

samantha jones - and suddenly/ray of sunshine

bobby goldsboro - it's too late/longer than forever/hold on/she chased me/too many people/love arrestor

karen young - are you kidding - (what's her release on major minor?)

Too Much Of A Good Thing..

[Benelew]

I was very fortunate to recently acquire a Casino Classics test press of Jackie Trent, you baby from John Manship's auction. He described it as being a one off and from what i can make out it was a record that Dave Macaleer who in the early 70's ran the Pye record company and subsequently Casino Classics was going to release but it did'nt happen. The vinyl as very heavy and is about twice the thickness of a standard disc. The label is hand written and has the night owl logo with 'September release' written across the top. It has just a few light scratches but play's really well and sounds fantastic. Was this overlooked by the Northern Soul scene back then ?? It's a thumping dancer and just perfect for today's scene. I would appreciate anyone shedding any light on this song please. Obviously we all know that Jackie Trent was a white female artist that sang mainstream songs way back in the 60's and probably before then but i don't recall her ever having a northern style hit... is this it ?? I intend to play the record while at Prestatyn in the U.K. in March. Thanks for looking, Tony OZ.

Think it's a great tune but not sure I'd play it out (a recently departed mate of mine was a friend and neighbour of Ms Trent a few years back, in Majorca I think). Got a nice UK White Demo on PYE. One of those crystal clear recordings that came out of PYE's Oxford Street studios in the mid-60s a la Pet Clarke (although Jackie's vocal is certainly more soulful than the rather plumby sounding Petula ever was). Husband Tony Hatch wrote it with her I think, as he did a lot of stuff for Pet and others ("Call me") etc.

Jorge

[Guest]

Think it's a great tune but not sure I'd play it out (a recently departed mate of mine was a friend and neighbour of Ms Trent a few years back, in Majorca I think). Got a nice UK White Demo on PYE. One of those crystal clear recordings that came out of PYE's Oxford Street studios in the mid-60s a la Pet Clarke (although Jackie's vocal is certainly more soulful than the rather plumby sounding Petula ever was). Husband Tony Hatch wrote it with her I think, as he did a lot of stuff for Pet and others ("Call me") etc.

Jorge

And wrote the neighbours theme toon.

Best record i like by her is her version of the Tim Rose number "morning dew"

Edited March 10, 2010 by ken

[Benji]

Best record i like by her is her version of the Tim Rose number "morning dew"

Ken, can you upload a soundfile of it? I think Tim Roses is a lovely record and am curious what Jackie's take sounds like...

[Guest]

Ken, can you upload a soundfile of it? I think Tim Roses is a lovely record and am curious what Jackie's take sounds like...

If i knew where it was i would,its on one of those cheap msp lps a hour of Jackie......got the human beans(uk band) columbia version too,somewhere love the record.

Edited March 10, 2010 by ken

[Pete S]

If i knew where it was i would,its on one of those cheap msp lps a hour of Jackie......got the human beans(uk band) columbia version too,somewhere love the record.

THats a rare single, Dave Edmunds first UK release I think, sold one on ebay for £50 a few years ago.

[Guest]

THats a rare single, Dave Edmunds first UK release I think, sold one on ebay for £50 a few years ago.

You on about human beans Pete,i have had two of em the one now looks shagged but plays realy nice.