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TELL YA WHAT. IT MUST TAKE A LOT OF THOUGHT AND EFFORT FOR DEBBIE TO OBTAIN THE LOOK THAT SHE WEARS AS WELL AS EXPENCE. WHICH IS MORE THAN CAN BE SAID FOR A LOT OF SOULIES THAT I SEE. SHE DOES LOOK NICE BY THE WAY

Thank you ever so much Jim :) that's very kind of you :thumbup:

Debbie x

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Steve- Just a reminder.... The Northern Soul Top 500 is full of all time greats. I doubt that 300 of them rarely get played by the, well.. Top 500 crowd!

A very good point, and quite amazing when you think about it that a large section of the scene can live on a playlist of 200 - 300 sounds, given that some of them purport to have been on the scene non stop since the 70s ohmy.gif

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What Simon said a few posts back about dressing 60's; I'm sat here wearing a pair of Levis, a white Fred perry and a black v neck jumper. I was probably wearing exactly the same 'uniform' 30 years ago. Some looks never go out of fashion...but there's no way I'd swap the levis for a pair of baggies, I wore my last paid in 1978 and that was that for them.

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Retro soulie

Retro ....to look back in the past/ to wear clothes from the past

soulie...someone on or from the soul scene

retro soulie....a descriptive term for a soulie who dresses from a past era ie the 1970s

so mr warrior wheres the paradox?

Susan

Posted

A good honest post indeed...

You will also get a difference from folk who are still out on " the scene " and those that stay home and get pleasure/soul fix in other ways....

An indifference perhaps sleep3.gif LOL

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What Simon said a few posts back about dressing 60's; I'm sat here wearing a pair of Levis, a white Fred perry and a black v neck jumper. I was probably wearing exactly the same 'uniform' 30 years ago. Some looks never go out of fashion...but there's no way I'd swap the levis for a pair of baggies, I wore my last paid in 1978 and that was that for them.

Its just about personal taste again Mate innit !

I ride a 60s Lambretta - I still get my suits and Shirts made to measure - still polish my loakes before I go out - still collect soul - ska - etc.

Into a different retro style than the soulies - but still a reto style

And if anyone had a problem with what I dress like or listen to I would not take any fooking notice anyway ! thumbsup.gif

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It's 'Dance wear' , nothing more , nothing less. as for Debbie wearing it in Tesco's..... that's been known too :thumbup:

please people, enough of the slagging off of the folk who wear what they feel comfortable in. personally i can wear bags at a good oldies event, i can also wear vintage 20" bottom Spencers. but when it comes to tops, I wear MODERN ones. Ben Sherman's latest designs or anything else that looks good will do me. no bowling shirts or the like. Shoes ? I love my Icon shoes, they look fantastic regardless of what is with them. so its not all 'wigan casino' styles or era. I will also add that EVERY single event we go to, Debbie gets polite, positive and nice comments about her appearence. she looks good, she makes an affort (more than can be said for a lot of you) and she enjoys to dance. end of. :) can we get back to the original thread regarding the dance classes?

ta, Ian

Ben Sherman & Ikon are both horrible high street brands, sorta pseudo wannabe Mod wear, better of wearing a nice John Smedley or some Bass Weejun loafers or Loake/Church brogues etc, properly made classic clothing that sits right & feels right, oozes quality 'an all!

Simon thumbsup.gif

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Ben Sherman & Ikon are both horrible high street brands, sorta pseudo wannabe Mod wear, better of wearing a nice John Smedley or some Bass Weejun loafers or Loake/Church brogues etc, properly made classic clothing that sits right & feels right, oozes quality 'an all!

Simon thumbsup.gif

hahahahahahahhaaaaaaaa :)

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hahahahahahahhaaaaaaaa :)

Just getting back on topic - I think the dance classes are a great idea - I am thinking about starting a Ska Dance class.

Everyone gets 8 pints of Red stripe - smokes a big spliff - and moves their arms up and down for 2 hours ?

25 quid a session

Bargain !

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Guest clanger v2
Posted (edited)

Ben Sherman & Ikon are both horrible high street brands, sorta pseudo wannabe Mod wear, better of wearing a nice John Smedley or some Bass Weejun loafers or Loake/Church brogues etc, properly made classic clothing that sits right & feels right, oozes quality 'an all!

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Ikon, I agree with you 100%. Expensive cheap shoes (if you know what I mean).

But Ben Sherman? An iconic 60's fashion icon, not a pseudo wannabe by any stretch of the imagination. True enough, there's some complete pap in the stores these days, but aslo some fantastic 60s cut clothing along side it.

I will add that I wont buy from there tho, not at £90 a shirt that wont last half as long as they should for that price.

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Guest MBarrett
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Ben Sherman & Ikon are both horrible high street brands,

Simon thumbsup.gif

Makes me want to weep when you compare the modern day Ben Shermans to the one you could buy in the 60's.

They just can't seem to replicate the material, the style, the fit . . . . . .

I used to have a source for factory seconds in the late 60's. Gave a few to my mum to wear as blouses. The look on my mates faces when they came round our house . . . !

MB

(Regardless of comments above - got to agree with Clanger - Ben Sherman and Ikon don't really belong in the same sentence)

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Guest becchio
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Im rockin the hippy look at the mo . It feels comfy an groovy especially at a niter . Its all about shoes i think . I tried to get dressy n fashionable but its just too square man

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Makes me want to weep when you compare the modern day Ben Shermans to the one you could buy in the 60's.

They just can't seem to replicate the material, the style, the fit . . . . . .

I used to have a source for factory seconds in the late 60's. Gave a few to my mum to wear as blouses. The look on my mates faces when they came round our house . . . !

MB

(Regardless of comments above - got to agree with Clanger - Ben Sherman and Ikon don't really belong in the same sentence)

Sorry, a bit clumsy of me there, i was referring only to the 'Modern' Ben Shermans, i wear the 6ts originals & occasionally a modern one if it's cut properly.

Simon

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I wear spankly silver thongs under my Paul Smith Jeans and no one has commented on them so they must be ok to wear to a soul doo hatsoff2.gif

Guest Trevski
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Ben Sherman & Ikon are both horrible high street brands, sorta pseudo wannabe Mod wear, better of wearing a nice John Smedley or some Bass Weejun loafers or Loake/Church brogues etc, properly made classic clothing that sits right & feels right, oozes quality 'an all!

Simon thumbsup.gif

True.

Today I am clad in slimfit chino's, Panama Jack basic brown 'Chukka Boots' dark blue Smedley turtle neck sweater, and when popping out to Morrisons, I topped it off with a navy blue Baracuta G9 Harrington. A classic, cool look that never dates, and looks as good today as it did on Steve McQueen in "The Thomas Crown Affair." The problem I have with the Baggie/Circle skirt look, is that it doesn't stand the test of time. Fine when the women wearing circle skirt, ankle socks, vest etc were in their teens/twenties, but today with wearers in their 40's/50's- its like seeing your Gran in a school uniform! Very disturbing! :)

P.S. for anyone who hasn't checked 'em out, Panama Jack's made in Spain, are a cracking pair of boots!

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I'll try to keep this on topic by relating a dance style and clothes worn in 1975. The all nighters at the Wirrina Peterborough in 1975 would sometimes attract African-American US servicemen from RAF Alconbury. I can remember marvelling at their dance styles which was completely different from ours, naturally. Some of them happened to be wearing kaftans and I thought at the time, jesus, those geezers must be really comfortable in those flowing garments. The music was stuff like Ann Sexton, Betty Wright, Gil Scott Heron, Bataan, World Column etc and it all seemed very exciting. They stopped coming after a few sessions, maybe phased by all those English kids blocked out of their tits giving them patronising Soul brother salutes and having to endure inexplicable records like Barnaby Bye and Cats Eyes. I digress. Back to 2010. A kaftan or a linen Kashmiri long shirt with matching strides would be most comfortable in my opinion.


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A kaftan or a linen Kashmiri long shirt with matching strides would be most comfortable in my opinion.

So would Gandhi's nappy, but you won't catch Me in one! :)(Not unless they come in Mohair...)

Guest becchio
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Yeh trevski. It isnt a look that has stood the test of time. I dont think i could stand wearing a skirt nevermind a full circle jobby . When i said hippy i didnt mean like with a dog on string type thing . More classic mix like faded flared jeans and indian shirt but with a chanel style tweed jacket and bangly things. It can all get a bit "uniform" from both "brigades" . The bags and the mods armys . Both are guilty of it i think. I did wear a full circle at wigan in bout 80ish but not for long . Soon got all stripey bretton tops or haiwian . Thing i remember most at wigan was the early casuals n blazer types (check me fotos) NOT any bags vests n badges folks hardly at all really

Posted

Spot on! it's the same at some Mod rallies, some mod life crisis types bring out their parkas with Who patches on just for the weekend,

Simon

kinnel they aint happy with having a crisis at their rallies they bring it on this one....

Guest Trevski
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Yeh trevski. It isnt a look that has stood the test of time. I dont think i could stand wearing a skirt nevermind a full circle jobby . When i said hippy i didnt mean like with a dog on string type thing . More classic mix like faded flared jeans and indian shirt but with a chanel style tweed jacket and bangly things. It can all get a bit "uniform" from both "brigades" . The bags and the mods armys . Both are guilty of it i think. I did wear a full circle at wigan in bout 80ish but not for long . Soon got all stripey bretton tops or haiwian . Thing i remember most at wigan was the early casuals n blazer types (check me fotos) NOT any bags vests n badges folks hardly at all really

Sounds Ok to Me! Individual, chic, cool. A bit Sienna Miller-ish. :thumbsup:

Posted

Just getting back on topic - I think the dance classes are a great idea - I am thinking about starting a Ska Dance class.

Everyone gets 8 pints of Red stripe - smokes a big spliff - and moves their arms up and down for 2 hours ?

25 quid a session

Bargain !

are the joints includedlaugh.gif

Posted

Oh Dear!

Sort of agree with bits of all of this. I remain aggressively on the fence! Re the ads at the bottom of the page, we bought a sofa from DFS very comfortable!

I dress in vintage clothes but early 60's and had a spiffing suit made to measure on Trevski's advice from Seymours of York. I hate a lot about the modern world (not everything obviously or I would be sending this in by telegram or Aldiss Lamp)and particulaly dislike most modern menswear. I do go to work (as a geography teacher) dressed in a paired down version of what I wear at the weekend (today a sheepskin, black driving gloves, polo neck, staypressed, DM's (snow)). For some strange reasons I am nicknamed Zoro!

I am also intersted in Monorails.

Don't really care what labels people put on stuff horses for courses, In true Yorkshire fashion 'I know what I like'

What I really like however is Dancing! oh and monorails!

Finally and seriously I am repelled by anything that links me with people in their 40/50's as though we are a musical wing of SAGA!

Comrade (retro) or should it be rare? Moustache (age 46)

Guest Trevski
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Oh Dear!

Sort of agree with bits of all of this. I remain aggressively on the fence! Re the ads at the bottom of the page, we bought a sofa from DFS very comfortable!

I dress in vintage clothes but early 60's and had a spiffing suit made to measure on Trevski's advice from Seymours of York. I hate a lot about the modern world (not everything obviously or I would be sending this in by telegram or Aldiss Lamp)and particulaly dislike most modern menswear. I do go to work (as a geography teacher) dressed in a paired down version of what I wear at the weekend (today a sheepskin, black driving gloves, polo neck, staypressed, DM's (snow)). For some strange reasons I am nicknamed Zoro!

I am also intersted in Monorails.

Don't really care what labels people put on stuff horses for courses, In true Yorkshire fashion 'I know what I like'

What I really like however is Dancing! oh and monorails!

Finally and seriously I am repelled by anything that links me with people in their 40/50's as though we are a musical wing of SAGA!

Comrade (retro) or should it be rare? Moustache (age 46)

Zoro! Must be the 'tache! Ha Ha! Kids, brilliant!

Musical wing of SAGA? I'm in the Para-Military wing of 'help the Aged"!

You two have individual style aplenty! See you soon for a good chinwag!

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Guest becchio
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I think compromise and then unity is key. Modish n bagishness together could turn out some interesting "combinations " (tune !) if we could all join forces and er squat in a dancehall type venue thats say er "about to be turned into flats" (allegedly) . The music could still be good and underplayed oldies but loads of that uptempo r n b and funky s**t (like what they play at burnley ect) . But all under one roof and played side by side. Come on gang i mean the spongin govt allocated millions of lottery money for that opera house darn that posh larndon years ago innit ? Lets squat the joint (last maple sprung floor ) demand our yuman rights and have sharon as our dance guru :-) you know it makes sense

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True.

Today I am clad in slimfit chino's, Panama Jack basic brown 'Chukka Boots' dark blue Smedley turtle neck sweater, and when popping out to Morrisons, I topped it off with a navy blue Baracuta G9 Harrington. A classic, cool look that never dates, and looks as good today as it did on Steve McQueen in "The Thomas Crown Affair." The problem I have with the Baggie/Circle skirt look, is that it doesn't stand the test of time. Fine when the women wearing circle skirt, ankle socks, vest etc were in their teens/twenties, but today with wearers in their 40's/50's- its like seeing your Gran in a school uniform! Very disturbing! :thumbsup:

P.S. for anyone who hasn't checked 'em out, Panama Jack's made in Spain, are a cracking pair of boots!

No Spencers I'm afraid.

But how about a blend of 80s and contemporary?

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Guest becchio
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You think its funny ? I used to help sell spencers at wigan . Try selling spencers to a load of mancs n scousers without losing money . Now thats funny

Guest becchio
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lol

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I dont want to look exactly like someone else...........but yes that is a great look, the film Roman Holiday is my fav, have a look at the full skirt........it's stunning!

Im also inspired by Betty Page & a Burlesque look, a bit of Biba & my fav Victorian Book, Alice In Wonderland, so i just like to add bit's of what i like, not a complete image, if you see what i mean?

Debbie x

You're into Betty Page?thumbup.gif .You've just got yourself a groupielaugh.gif .Let me know when you plan on dressing up as BP at the next venue,i'll be there - ding dong !!!.

Just for the record.Agree with the Ben Sherman theory.Not as good a cut and fit now as in the 60's/70's.For me Paul Smith aftershave is the only thing to wear on an evening of rare vinyl.

Anyone still raiding TK Maxx for labels?wink.gif

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my gender is all confused and trying to find a nice place to shop

Did you really mean to say this Stevie?whistling.gif

Only kidding and taken completely out of context, but I couldn't resist.

At least I'm reading all the posts, great thread.

Posted

How on earth has this thread lasted 8 pages?

Good grief!

have you not seen the weather outside ?

its fooking freezing !


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Nice post, great contribution.

As it's related to this ever expanding thread I'd like to add some comments to this. Pleas forgive the self indulgence, but it is relevent.

Yes, I used to be and still am a Deepfunk DJ. My passion was sparked in 1996 when I stumbled upon Keb's Deepfunk night at Madame Jo Jo's on a Sunday night. His passion and suffer no fool attitude was not just infectiousus and intoxitating, it was so much more than that. It was enpowering, uplifting, a quasi spiritual experience which gave meaning to why I collected records and DJed and danced. It turned something that was ultimately pointless, self indulgent and meaningless and gave it reason, social importance, cultural significance, aesthetic reason and importantly is was super cool, all original 45s, no bootlegs or compilations, that stuff was fine for a little mid week event in middle of Dunstable, but nto for us, it was all about OG vinyl, the best new discoveries, the most exicting tunes, the best dancers, a no compromise attitude.

Yes it was a tourist attraction, but instead of the tourist activitiy causing destruction they cemented the established values, Keb would get on the mic and tell the tourists to get their drink off the dance floor or f&ck off next door etc and this made their activity empowering for "us". We were better, mroe important, more significant, and we were right to feel that. We became justifiably arrogant. Everythign we were doing had meaning and importance.

It was our Wigan, our Mecca, our Studio 54, our Staford. It was, around 1996-2002ish a really very special and important place. Every single week.

It eventually changed though. The tourists became more important, the numbers swelled, it moved to a Friday, when beer was spilled Keb started shrugging his shoulders. He sold his records and started played carvers and reissues. He got some old northern soul DJ to do the warm up, yes he was good on the mic but he didn't have a clue about what records to play, Keb had to tell him. And when Keb wasn't there to tell him he was terrible. The specialness had gone. It was no longer important in the way it used to be. It didn't inspire, it caused frustration and at times anger.

I was fortunate enough, after years of dismissing northern soul, to have been draggged down the 100 Club by Keb around 2001, where at 2am walking down the stairs a DJ called Butch filled me with the same feeling I had at Jo Jo's in 1996. It once again gave meaning to everything, but even more so than before. This was IT, it's been like this since the 1970s, it's never sold out, it'll never change, this is where I belong, this is embodiment of what Keb had been preaching to us, it was everything that Deepfunk could have become, spiritually, culturally, emotionally and asthetically. Only this time it wasn't owned by one conspicuous individual, the romance could not be shattered by one person's change in attitude. This was more than that, it was a militant community on masse, a principled stronghold of community policed values, beliefs and rules of conduct. This was a place that could not be exploited by one individual, the community would resist and enforce any kind of nonsense. It has it's own language, ideas, beliefs, customs, taboos, codes, institutions, tools, techniques, works of art, rituals, ceremonies, and symbols. It is more than just music, it is a vessel for learning and transmitting our ideas and beliefs.

It can not be sold.

It can not be packaged onto a DVD and rented out.

It can not be given away on a CD.

It does not suffer fools.

This is our life.

And as Keb used to say, if you don't like it, you can pi$ of next door to some other club, because you are not welcome here!

I remember Keb DJing with Smithers in the leisure lounge in Holborn in about 1994 playing rare funk - It was good mate. Smithers

was a good old mate of mine.

But I must admit to getting off my nut on doves and going next door to dance to Kenny Dope and Louie Vega after about an hour. laugh.gif

it was fooking good times man !

but in the same breath.................its only music and collecting old original 45s - its not the cure for cancer or anything ?

with respect

M

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Guest BigPaul
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You're into Betty Page?thumbup.gif .You've just got yourself a groupielaugh.gif .Let me know when you plan on dressing up as BP at the next venue,i'll be there - ding dong !!!.

Just for the record.Agree with the Ben Sherman theory.Not as good a cut and fit now as in the 60's/70's.For me Paul Smith aftershave is the only thing to wear on an evening of rare vinyl.

Anyone still raiding TK Maxx for labels?wink.gif

Trust you to lower the tone whistling.gif

As per normwicked.gif

Posted (edited)

You're into Betty Page?thumbup.gif .You've just got yourself a groupielaugh.gif .Let me know when you plan on dressing up as BP at the next venue,i'll be there - ding dong !!!.

Just for the record.Agree with the Ben Sherman theory.Not as good a cut and fit now as in the 60's/70's.For me Paul Smith aftershave is the only thing to wear on an evening of rare vinyl.

Anyone still raiding TK Maxx for labels?wink.gif

I have been known to swing my tassles at the odd Soul night! :sleep3:

On my wedding day, i have told Ian my partner that i will be dressed as Betty Page, i love the Burlesque thing! :yes:

Perhaps that's another reason i like the circle skirts.........i like a tight pulled in waist & when you spin, you flash your knickers! :sleep3:

Debbie x

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Guest BigPaul
Posted

Well, I for one am pleased this lady has started the Dance Classesthumbsup.gif

I have booked SteveL and KevH on a crash course of lessons for my latest DVD only Movie

"Stan and Ollie flying down to the Casino":thumbup:

In which they naturally play the lead roleswhistling

Its a sequel to my No1 bestselling DVD

"Boys with toys in The Attic":ohmy:

Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely co-incidental

Be Good

Paul

PS expected release date 2017:laugh:

Guest soul elite
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True.

Today I am clad in slimfit chino's, Panama Jack basic brown 'Chukka Boots' dark blue Smedley turtle neck sweater, and when popping out to Morrisons, I topped it off with a navy blue Baracuta G9 Harrington. A classic, cool look that never dates, and looks as good today as it did on Steve McQueen in "The Thomas Crown Affair." The problem I have with the Baggie/Circle skirt look, is that it doesn't stand the test of time. Fine when the women wearing circle skirt, ankle socks, vest etc were in their teens/twenties, but today with wearers in their 40's/50's- its like seeing your Gran in a school uniform! Very disturbing! :laugh:

P.S. for anyone who hasn't checked 'em out, Panama Jack's made in Spain, are a cracking pair of boots!

When i managed a Russell & Bromley shop we used to sell lots of those boots and yes they do look good but how can you dance in them because the're very heavy!

:chinstroke:

Guest James Trouble
Posted

I remember Keb DJing with Smithers in the leisure lounge in Holborn in about 1994 playing rare funk - It was good mate. Smithers

was a good old mate of mine.

But I must admit to getting off my nut on doves and going next door to dance to Kenny Dope and Louie Vega after about an hour. :laugh:

it was fooking good times man !

but in the same breath.................its only music and collecting old original 45s - its not the cure for cancer or anything ?

with respect

M

Do they do Doves any more? They were good in 94 :unsure:

Posted (edited)

Do they do Doves any more? They were good in 94 unsure.gif

every ones too old for all that weird stuff now ! biggrin.gif

most people stay in and slag off everyone else on Soul Source for fun these days don't they wicked.gif

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Guest alanbonthrone
Posted

So would Gandhi's nappy, but you won't catch Me in one! :laugh:(Not unless they come in Mohair...)

Gandhi,s nappy. Excellent !

Guest Trevski
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When i managed a Russell & Bromley shop we used to sell lots of those boots and yes they do look good but how can you dance in them because the're very heavy!

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Day wear only! For soul do's I choose one of these four, depending on the Suit!

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Guest soul elite
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Day wear only!

Aaah, I was intrigued at how you could've danced in those boots but now i know!whistling.gif

Guest soul elite
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Day wear only! For soul do's I choose one of these four!

STOP PLEASE, IT MAKES ME WANT TO GO BACK AND SELL BEAUTIFUL SHOES AGAIN .....ONLY PROBLEM IS I CAN'T STAND THE CUSOMERS boxing.gif

haha - x-

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I have been known to swing my tassles at the odd Soul night! :laugh:

On my wedding day, i have told Ian my partner that i will be dressed as Betty Page, i love the Burlesque thing! thumbsup.gif

Perhaps that's another reason i like the circle skirts.........i like a tight pulled in waist & when you spin, you flash your knickers! :wicked:

Debbie x

totally agree with you Debbie...theres nothing wrong with a bit of knicker flashing...I like doing that too.

I also like Betty Page,Ive got her life story on DVD as you know, but im not as knowledgeable on the subject as you are.

what i have seen of her on pictures etc she looks really nice....is she still alive?

susan x

Posted

Day wear only! For soul do's I choose one of these four, depending on the Suit!

Fine choices Sir!

Simon :good:

Posted

Well, I for one am pleased this lady has started the Dance Classesthumbsup.gif

I have booked SteveL and KevH on a crash course of lessons for my latest DVD only Movie

"Stan and Ollie flying down to the Casino":thumbup:

In which they naturally play the lead roleswhistling

Its a sequel to my No1 bestselling DVD

"Boys with toys in The Attic":ohmy:

Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely co-incidental

Be Good

Paul

PS expected release date 2017:laugh:

which set of lessons do you think they would need Paul:laugh:

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