NEV Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Hi what is the correct info on this please?? I just asked the seller on ebay about his copy ....he reckons the jury is out on wether this record was ever legitimatley pressed ,insinuating it is not officially recognised ? Surely this is not so convoy records https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200439122504&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123
St James Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Hi what is the correct info on this please?? I just asked the seller on ebay about his copy ....he reckons the jury is out on wether this record was ever legitimatley pressed ,insinuating it is not officially recognised ? Surely this is not so convoy records https://cgi.ebay.co.u...E:X:RTQ:GB:1123
Kjw Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Hi Nev There were 3 bootlegs all copies of the original promo (no one has ever seen an issue although it was listed on the release sheets at the time) 2 in vinyl - one has the initials PB in the run out and the other has a ridge close to the centre edge (same as the one up for sale) The third bootleg is styrene I'm pretty sure this info is right but I may be shot down in flames
St James Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Is this "I can see him"? If so Im sure Manships sold one at auction for £900! last year. Press is around £20/£30.
De-to Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 nev,was deffo issued on vinyl my mate has one mono/stereo both sides it has very thin vinyl around the edge the thickish edged styrene mid 70s copys were boots,
De-to Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 nev,heres a proper one which looks like my mates as i said its thin vinyl and also a 70s boot,great record imo,i know there was a thread on here about the anderson brothers ages ago so did we ever discover who the anderson brothers were???
Chris Anderton Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 I believe the tell tail sign is that the original has a longer run out groove than the press. Never seem an issue and dont know anyone who has. Chris ps. Found mine in Washington DC 6 years ago for 25 cents!
De-to Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 I believe the tell tail sign is that the original has a longer run out groove than the press. Never seem an issue and dont know anyone who has. Chris ps. Found mine in Washington DC 6 years ago for 25 cents! a lucky find mr chris anderson,
Wrongcrowd Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 nev,heres a proper one which looks like my mates as i said its thin vinyl and also a 70s boot,great record imo,i know there was a thread on here about the anderson brothers ages ago so did we ever discover who the anderson brothers were??? The 'proper' one also looks like the first vinyl bootleg with the deep depression towards the centre hole. These were passed off as originals in the mid 70's complete with GSF company sleeves.
Wrongcrowd Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 same anderson brothers,??? Yep, the very same.
Chris Anderton Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 a lucky find mr chris anderson, ............... Its like the lottery mate, if you dont buy a ticket you aint gonna win it! I didnt have a load of people offering to pay for my plane ticket, food, hotel bills if i found nothing on that 3 month buying trip! But yeah it was lucky! Happened 3 days after finding 3 Paul Thompsons for a dollar each.... Still got it, wonderful tune, Helens fave... Chris ps. and its Anderton not Anderson...!
NEV Posted February 14, 2010 Author Posted February 14, 2010 ............... Its like the lottery mate, if you dont buy a ticket you aint gonna win it! I didnt have a load of people offering to pay for my plane ticket, food, hotel bills if i found nothing on that 3 month buying trip! But yeah it was lucky! Happened 3 days after finding 3 Paul Thompsons for a dollar each.... Still got it, wonderful tune, Helens fave... Chris ps. and its Anderton not Anderson...! Chris .....i think the four emoticons after de-tos sentence are a give away However ,thanks for all the info ,let's hope some poor beggar does'nt end up paying over the odds for a boot
Chris Anderton Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Yeah i know mate.... Its a rare record, even when i found the copy in DC i thought it was a boot, until i took the time to research it and it met every criteria... i`d be interested to know how many real copies there are out there...guess all of the main 70s guys have a copy...maybe 50 or 100? Chris
Suinoz Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 Yeah i know mate.... Its a rare record, even when i found the copy in DC i thought it was a boot, until i took the time to research it and it met every criteria... i`d be interested to know how many real copies there are out there...guess all of the main 70s guys have a copy...maybe 50 or 100? Chris Hiya Chris, brilliant record mate. It was huge at Cleethorpes and i think it was Mary Chapmans fave too. ATB Tony.
Davetay Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 (edited) Yeah i know mate.... Its a rare record, even when i found the copy in DC i thought it was a boot, until i took the time to research it and it met every criteria... i`d be interested to know how many real copies there are out there...guess all of the main 70s guys have a copy...maybe 50 or 100? Chris There weren't that many in the 70s (no way 50-100) that's for sure. No idea how many have turned up since, but with JM getting £900 for one it must be still quite rare. Or is someone gonna tell me loads have been found now. Edited February 15, 2010 by davetay
Steve Plumb Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 (edited) There weren't that many in the 70s (no way 50-100) that's for sure. No idea how many have turned up since, but with JM getting £900 for one it must be still quite rare. Or is someone gonna tell me loads have been found now. No, it's still as rare as ever Dave You're right it was not around even back in the day! I think a poll on here would verify that? I remember in the 70's a mate of mine sold it on his list for £4 (which was quite a lot then and it was way before it was booted), then he found out that Richard Searling had just paid £90 for it......................oh how we laughed I don't care whether the Anderson Bros are white, black, brown, yellow or even related to Z Z Top, my copies coming in the box with me One of the key 'turning point' records of the Northern scene imho! Cheers Steve Edited February 16, 2010 by Steve Plumb
Paul McKay Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 I spoke to John Manship earlier in the week about this record, funnily enough, having just got my sweaty hands on a copy and the proviso he added to the boot descriptions in his guide was that the boots did not have a stereo side. So a careful listen should point anyone in the right direction.
Guest Lobster Madras Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Hi Nev There were 3 bootlegs all copies of the original promo (no one has ever seen an issue although it was listed on the release sheets at the time) 2 in vinyl - one has the initials PB in the run out and the other has a ridge close to the centre edge (same as the one up for sale) The third bootleg is styrene I'm pretty sure this info is right but I may be shot down in flames The vinyl boot copies with the ridge were sold as originals I seem to remember and came via Soussan ? Advert in the back of Black echoes ? Was offered along with another looky likey boot but my memory eludes me .. Very good boots though.. been fooling people for a long time.
Guest Lobster Madras Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Hi Nev There were 3 bootlegs all copies of the original promo (no one has ever seen an issue although it was listed on the release sheets at the time) 2 in vinyl - one has the initials PB in the run out and the other has a ridge close to the centre edge (same as the one up for sale) The third bootleg is styrene I'm pretty sure this info is right but I may be shot down in flames The vinyl boot copies with the ridge were sold as originals I seem to remember and came via Soussan ? Advert in the back of Black echoes ? Was offered along with another looky likey boot but my memory eludes me .. Very good boots though.. been fooling people for a long time.
John Benson Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 I'd go for the Israeli LP - thats not a boot
Wrongcrowd Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I'd go for the Israeli LP - thats not a boot So you got it then John.........let's have the details already...
Steve G Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Yes a lovely record even if the vocals are a bit weak. As the Plumbmeister says one of those turning point records, and a great dancer too. Ray Dahrouge wrote it and later covered it on Polydor, and he's on here as well......Steve
Wrongcrowd Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Yes a lovely record even if the vocals are a bit weak. As the Plumbmeister says one of those turning point records, and a great dancer too. Ray Dahrouge wrote it and later covered it on Polydor, and he's on here as well......Steve Whilst we're discussing alternative versions, as much as I love the Anderson Brothers original, the unissued Mayberry Movement's version takes it to another level....another Kent find...
John Benson Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) So you got it then John.........let's have the details already... Just read the rest of my original post... it's all there, pics and all! https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/121248-soul-explosion-lp/page__p__1242649__fromsearch__1entry1242649 Edited February 17, 2010 by John Benson
Davetay Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Just read the rest of my original post... it's all there, pics and all! https://www.soul-sour...1entry1242649 Very very nice find, like Gavin said (+100s others ) would love a copy.
Steve Plumb Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Whilst we're discussing alternative versions, as much as I love the Anderson Brothers original, the unissued Mayberry Movement's version takes it to another level....another Kent find... Yeah I LOVE that version - agree, what a find!!!!!! Then there was that Trieste version on IX Chains, there's probably more? Cheers Steve
Steve Plumb Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Just read the rest of my original post... it's all there, pics and all! https://www.soul-sour...1entry1242649 Gobsmacked! What a find! Is it the same mix, longer, shorter, is it stereo or mono???????????? Well done mate Cheers Steve
Guest Gogs Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 white demo previous owner decided to colour in. why? And the issue
Davetay Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 (edited) Yeah I LOVE that version - agree, what a find!!!!!! Then there was that Trieste version on IX Chains, there's probably more? Cheers Steve Steve, Kev Darge played a nice funk version at the Southport Weekender about 5 or 6 years ago. Dave. P.S. John's LP is abit nice. Edited February 18, 2010 by davetay
John Benson Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 Gobsmacked! What a find! Is it the same mix, longer, shorter, is it stereo or mono???????????? Well done mate Cheers Steve Steve, it doesn't sound any different to the 45 recording to my ears, I haven't thought to check if it's in stereo, but the album cover and labels do say 'Stereo' So it's a fair bet that it actually is! When I get a chance, I'll have another listen... and I'll time it for you if you want
Citizen P Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 white demo previous owner decided to colour in. why? And the issue Quite like the Trieste, got a kind of Creative Source feel to it. If you see what i mean Tony
pogo paul Posted February 20, 2010 Posted February 20, 2010 I spoke to John Manship earlier in the week about this record, funnily enough, having just got my sweaty hands on a copy and the proviso he added to the boot descriptions in his guide was that the boots did not have a stereo side. So a careful listen should point anyone in the right direction. Here's a scan of my copy, has Stereo / mono sides. It has Mick Viggars scratched in , with GSFM 1179 and PB in the grooves.
Rob Wigley Posted February 20, 2010 Posted February 20, 2010 The vinyl boot copies with the ridge were sold as originals I seem to remember and came via Soussan ? Advert in the back of Black echoes ? Was offered along with another looky likey boot but my memory eludes me .. Very good boots though.. been fooling people for a long time. I bought one at the time £4 I think rings a bell-a member on here was behind bringing some copies in advance all in nice GSF sleeve s too !! must have been very early on 1975/ 1976 ? Tats has got one they are easy to spot "In the flesh" you can feel the label A long time personal want for me.... Rob
Greety Posted February 20, 2010 Posted February 20, 2010 Not much help I know but mine came from Tim Ashibende about fifteen years ago. He tracked down Ray Dahrouge the producer, Tim would have asked him the right questions, was it issued etc. Try contacting "colouredman" on here.
Steve Plumb Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 Steve, Kev Darge played a nice funk version at the Southport Weekender about 5 or 6 years ago. Dave. Hi Dave Sorry for the delay mate - do you have any more details on the above version? Cheers Steve
Davetay Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 Hi Dave Sorry for the delay mate - do you have any more details on the above version? Cheers Steve Hi Steve, I have done a great sin (forgot), please don't tell the soul police. Anyway I will tell you the story at Bury on Friday. Dave.
Steve Plumb Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Hi Steve, I have done a great sin (forgot), please don't tell the soul police. Anyway I will tell you the story at Bury on Friday. Dave. Nice one Dave, see what you can remember at Bury on Friday Cheers Steve
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