Anyone tell me whether there are any decent CDs covering the Fortune and Hi-Q labels please, and if so where I can pick them up?

Cheers

Richard

  On 13/02/2010 at 11:33, Premium Stuff said:

Anyone tell me whether there are any decent CDs covering the Fortune and Hi-Q labels please, and if so where I can pick them up?

Cheers

Richard

Hi Richard,

Legit reissue companies (including Ace and at least two others I've worked for previously) have been trying for years to license the Fortune group of labels, but the owner - who is the son of the husband and wife who started Fortune in the 50s - is a couple of rarities short of a hotbox when it comes to business.

Unfortunately the catalogue's worth to the likes of Ace is diminishing by the year, as the prime content of its catalogue gradually disappears into the public domain and the OOC boys get stuck into it - as they did about 15 years ago, when an extensive series of Canadian bootleg CDs appeared on the (genuine) Regency label, by the likes of Nolan Strong, Nathaniel Mayer, the Royal Jokers, Dr. Ross and loads more. They're all in 'from mastertape' sound, too - which would suggest a bit of 'insider involvement' somewhere along the line...

15 years is a long time, and I haven't seen any of these around at rock 'n' roll record fairs in ages. But they're out there somewhere I guess...

  On 13/02/2010 at 11:53, TONY ROUNCE said:

is a couple of rarities short of a hotbox when it comes to business.

Lovely!

Sean

  On 13/02/2010 at 11:53, TONY ROUNCE said:

Hi Richard,

Legit reissue companies (including Ace and at least two others I've worked for previously) have been trying for years to license the Fortune group of labels, but the owner - who is the son of the husband and wife who started Fortune in the 50s - is a couple of rarities short of a hotbox when it comes to business.

Unfortunately the catalogue's worth to the likes of Ace is diminishing by the year, as the prime content of its catalogue gradually disappears into the public domain and the OOC boys get stuck into it - as they did about 15 years ago, when an extensive series of Canadian bootleg CDs appeared on the (genuine) Regency label, by the likes of Nolan Strong, Nathaniel Mayer, the Royal Jokers, Dr. Ross and loads more. They're all in 'from mastertape' sound, too - which would suggest a bit of 'insider involvement' somewhere along the line...

15 years is a long time, and I haven't seen any of these around at rock 'n' roll record fairs in ages. But they're out there somewhere I guess...

Nice one Tony - great info thank you - very much appreciated.

Cheers

Richard

Edited February 13, 201015 yr by Premium Stuff

  On 13/02/2010 at 11:33, Premium Stuff said:

Anyone tell me whether there are any decent CDs covering the Fortune and Hi-Q labels please, and if so where I can pick them up?

Cheers

Richard

Hi Richard I gladly tape/record you whatever tunes on these two labels your are after mate! Just pm me.

Marc

Richard

Consulted Craig Butler who's into those labels and he doesn't know of any other CD's in addition to those on Regency that Tony referenced, but went on to say that Relic Records put out some great vinyl LP's in the 80's although most of those may now be out of stock.

Mick

  On 13/02/2010 at 12:04, Sean Hampsey said:

Lovely!

Sean

one of the best comments/insult I've seen for a while

this guy has scans of some cds, there is a fortune one in there. He does mention he doesn't sell cds?

https://www.lexjansen...tune/covers.htm

https://www.lexjansen.com/fortune/

Edited February 14, 201015 yr by chalky

I don't know how they did it, but the (as far as I know) legit Vampisoul label out of Spain issued two CDs about 5 years ago by Nathaniel Mayer and Andre Williams that featured some of their Fortune sides.

NATHANIEL MAYER:

https://www.vampisoul.com/detail_cd.asp?referencia=72

https://www.discogs.com/Nathaniel-Mayer-I-Want-Love-And-Affection-Not-The-House-Of-Correction/release/1790746

ANDRE WILLIAMS:

https://www.vampisoul.com/detail_cd.asp?referencia=73

https://www.discogs.com/Andre-Williams-Movin-On-With-Andre-Williams-Greasy-And-Explicit-Soul-Movers-1956-1970/release/1088228

  On 14/02/2010 at 11:40, chalky said:

one of the best comments/insult I've seen for a while

You're right mate.

Gave me the widest smile I've had in ages.

He's a way with words our Tony.

Sean

  On 14/02/2010 at 11:53, Sebastian said:

I don't know how they did it, but the (as far as I know) legit Vampisoul label out of Spain issued two CDs about 5 years ago by Nathaniel Mayer and Andre Williams that featured some of their Fortune sides.

NATHANIEL MAYER:

https://www.vampisoul...p?referencia=72

https://www.discogs.c...release/1790746

ANDRE WILLIAMS:

https://www.vampisoul...p?referencia=73

https://www.discogs.c...release/1088228

Not quite but almost...Both, Andre Williams and Nathaniel Mayer were getting paid by Vampisoul in order to get the publishing rights to publish these tunes. Wether Nathaniel and Andre indeed were the right persons to negotiate about these copyrights I am not the one to say...

  On 14/02/2010 at 11:30, Mick Howard said:

...that Relic Records put out some great vinyl LP's in the 80's although most of those may now be out of stock.

Mick

Some great LP`s indeed but none about Hi Q and Fortune alone. The Detroit -related comps covered Chex, Lupine and some mixed stuff from labels such Flick, Kudo etc.

  On 13/02/2010 at 11:53, TONY ROUNCE said:

Hi Richard,

Legit reissue companies (including Ace and at least two others I've worked for previously) have been trying for years to license the Fortune group of labels, but the owner - who is the son of the husband and wife who started Fortune in the 50s - is a couple of rarities short of a hotbox when it comes to business.

Unfortunately the catalogue's worth to the likes of Ace is diminishing by the year, as the prime content of its catalogue gradually disappears into the public domain and the OOC boys get stuck into it - as they did about 15 years ago, when an extensive series of Canadian bootleg CDs appeared on the (genuine) Regency label, by the likes of Nolan Strong, Nathaniel Mayer, the Royal Jokers, Dr. Ross and loads more. They're all in 'from mastertape' sound, too - which would suggest a bit of 'insider involvement' somewhere along the line...

15 years is a long time, and I haven't seen any of these around at rock 'n' roll record fairs in ages. But they're out there somewhere I guess...

In fact Debora Brown (part-owner) was offered a cheque worth of 250.000 USD back in the day but refused to finalize the deal with ACE. She said "she would only sell if she was offered the same amount as this other Detroit label"...she was talking about Motown

Nice instrumental by Butch Vaden

Thanks for all the info guys - very much appreciated.

Thanks for the offer of some tracks Marc - very kind of you & I will drop you a PM

Cheers

Richard

  On 13/02/2010 at 11:53, TONY ROUNCE said:

Hi Richard,

Legit reissue companies (including Ace and at least two others I've worked for previously) have been trying for years to license the Fortune group of labels, but the owner - who is the son of the husband and wife who started Fortune in the 50s - is a couple of rarities short of a hotbox when it comes to business.

Unfortunately the catalogue's worth to the likes of Ace is diminishing by the year, as the prime content of its catalogue gradually disappears into the public domain and the OOC boys get stuck into it - as they did about 15 years ago, when an extensive series of Canadian bootleg CDs appeared on the (genuine) Regency label, by the likes of Nolan Strong, Nathaniel Mayer, the Royal Jokers, Dr. Ross and loads more. They're all in 'from mastertape' sound, too - which would suggest a bit of 'insider involvement' somewhere along the line...

15 years is a long time, and I haven't seen any of these around at rock 'n' roll record fairs in ages. But they're out there somewhere I guess...

tony,

where have we heard this scenario before?....aka rca, which adey has no forthcoming resolution with. LIKE WITH MY WIGAN THREAD.......WHY DO SELFISH PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO THEIR GRAVES AND NOT SHARE WHATS PRECIOUS WITH THIS WORLD.......DO THEY SERIOUSLY THINK THEY ARE GOING TO LIVE FOREVER......OR ARE THEY ALREADY OUT THERE LOOKING FOR SHANGRI-LA?. its their loss if they cant make a dime when everythings booted which aint the way we want to obtain it.

rob.h

bloody cameo parkway's another thorn in the side....without the bootlegs

rob.h

  On 21/02/2010 at 19:29, Premium Stuff said:

Thanks for all the info guys - very much appreciated.

Thanks for the offer of some tracks Marc - very kind of you & I will drop you a PM

Cheers

Richard

I`ll answer asap

Not a straight compilation -but Melvin Davis has a couple of CDs out later in the year covering his Fortune recordings -watch this space.

Rob

Those Regency bootleg CDs were in two series, one was called "Itty Bitty Treasure Chest" and the other was called "Motor City Doo Wops".

Most if not all of them seem to be available, quite cheaply, from a variety of sellers on amazon.com, who presumably don't realise that they are boots (amazon.com that is, not the sellers - who may well know and just don't want to own up to it...)