Jethro

[Agentsmith]

READING DUBLINMAN'S THREAD....WELL, BEARING IN MIND THAT RICHARD SEARLING TOOK HIS BOX TO THE TOP OF THE WORLD STAFFORD WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, I PRESUME ITS POSSIBLE THE SPRINGER'S MAY HAVE BEEN A TAIL-END WIGAN RECORD LIKE SO MANY OTHERS THAT GOT STAFFORD STARTED BUT ITS PLAINLY OBVIOUS THAT NOTHIN'S TOO GOOD IS DUBBED OVER A SHORT FILM CLIP FROM WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUTUBE, SO ITS LIKELY , IN THAT FILM CLIP, IT WASNT WHAT THE DANCERS WERE MOVING TO. BUT THIS STARTED ME THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THATS INTRIGUING....SO HERE WE GO!.

BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT SOMEONE WHO IS 49 IN 2010, WOULD HAVE JUST ABOUT BEEN OLD ENOUGH TO ATTEND THE CASINO IN 1981, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET WHO:

TOOK A CAMERA TO THE CASINO AND STILL POSSESS PHOTOGRAPHS?

TOOK A CASSETTE RECORDER ALONG AND STILL HAVE TAPES? e.g ones that still sound audible as opposed to muffled.

WERE IN A DECENT JOB AND....COULD AFFORD TO PURCHASE A CINE-CAMERA AND.... HAVE GENUINE FOOTAGE....INCLUDING SOUND RECORDING?

LOOK... WEVE ALL SEEN THIS ENGLAND, SOUL FUNCTION AND EVEN FOOTSIE ON TOTP! BUT, BEARING IN MIND OVER 8 YEARS 1000'S OF PEOPLE MADE THE PILGRIMAGE

SURELY THERE MUST BE ENOUGH MATERIAL OUT THERE TO:

MAKE A CONCISE DVD AND EVEN A GOOD HARDBACK PHOTO ALBUM OR BIOGRAPHY.

SO....AFTER 40 YEARS, LETS HAVE A CONCENSUS AND GET EVERYONE IN ON IT...WOW!, MASSIVE PROJECT OR WHAT? WELL, THIS IS SOULSOURCE, THE BIGGEST WEB SITE PURELY FOR NORTHERN SOUL LOVERS AND IT SURELY CAN BE DONE. NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE AROUND FOREVER YET THERE HAS TO BE SO MUCH THAT WE STILL DONT KNOW OR WERENT PREVIOUSLY AWARE OF SO THIS COULD BE THE MOST AUTHORITATIVE EDICT OF THE SCENE WE LOVE AND THE VENUE THAT CAPTURED THE TRUE SPIRIT OF NORTHERN SOUL.

ROB.H

[Ian Parker]

We'd love to see some footage and good quality photo's. bear in mind, the 'run of the mill' cameras most folk had were pretty basic. i had a dreadful 110 jobbie. it took pic's but anything further away from close up was destined to be mediocre in quality and clarity. I have one photo of me in Mr M's and one of a friend in the main hall. both are awful quality.....

as for cine footage, that would be fab, fingers crossed, ya never know

[Agentsmith]

We'd love to see some footage and good quality photo's. bear in mind, the 'run of the mill' cameras most folk had were pretty basic. i had a dreadful 110 jobbie. it took pic's but anything further away from close up was destined to be mediocre in quality and clarity. I have one photo of me in Mr M's and one of a friend in the main hall. both are awful quality.....

as for cine footage, that would be fab, fingers crossed, ya never know

thats the idea....somebody shot all the footage for the tv documentaries so its presumable ther may be some of the edited stuff boxed up gathering dust at the bbc or itv and the edited stuff could run into endless hours and its highly unlikely such evidence will see the light of day, but, for instance 250000 people went through those swing doors and a lot of those youngsters emigrated to all four corners, some still alive but even the deceased's relatives could have a tale to tell and souveniers. are we just going to settle for short clip re-runs?...sure most people werent aware of the importance of photogenetiscism and in the main they got blurred images, but for every ten of those there will be 1 visually perfect shot ....even with pure luck and we already have the evidence of such images...but we dont have a pictorial or dvd bible, a definition that says yes! this is it....til now its all fragmented. in this day and age we can buy the history of anything...concise anything. why cant we buy and hold in our hands the definitive wigan?. casino history

[Rob Wigley]

thats the idea....somebody shot all the footage for the tv documentaries so its presumable ther may be some of the edited stuff boxed up gathering dust at the bbc or itv and the edited stuff could run into endless hours and its highly unlikely such evidence will see the light of day, but, for instance 250000 people went through those swing doors and a lot of those youngsters emigrated to all four corners, some still alive but even the deceased's relatives could have a tale to tell and souveniers. are we just going to settle for short clip re-runs?...sure most people werent aware of the importance of photogenetiscism and in the main they got blurred images, but for every ten of those there will be 1 visually perfect shot ....even with pure luck and we already have the evidence of such images...but we dont have a pictorial or dvd bible, a definition that says yes! this is it....til now its all fragmented. in this day and age we can buy the history of anything...concise anything. why cant we buy and hold in our hands the definitive wigan?. casino history

As a regular there, I have several "early" photos which are really crap-as Parkash said 110 cassette film and a 2 watt flash !!

in 1979 i bought a 35mm camera with built in flash and got some really good pics of people-and some of the dance floor as well.

i have cassette tapes-but we used to record over the tapes week on week to get the latest sounds.

There was never enough light for a cine camera-so doubt if anyone did it-most were without sound anyway !

Rob

[Agentsmith]

As a regular there, I have several "early" photos which are really crap-as Parkash said 110 cassette film and a 2 watt flash !!

in 1979 i bought a 35mm camera with built in flash and got some really good pics of people-and some of the dance floor as well.

i have cassette tapes-but we used to record over the tapes week on week to get the latest sounds.

There was never enough light for a cine camera-so doubt if anyone did it-most were without sound anyway !

Rob

i went to the catacombs in 73, prior to wigan and surprise, surprise there is even less photographic evidence of a legendary venue but wigan was a massive stage for everything, with huge crowds year in, year out ....just thinking out loud, imagination or not, there has to be a possibility that someone was privilaged to have a cine-camera. on the other hand as years passed cameras became more accessible and better quality so by 1979-81 there should be some great pictures. like i say this was a global phenomenon as we all know....so who knows if someone in france, usa, australia, japan, thailand etc, who came as a tourist or a brit who emigrated, might have something in their posession that nobody has ever seen. you have to consider all possibilities. as i suggested this should be a broad concensus, ive posted this as a way of jogging peoples memories like no other...... I CAN SEE PEOPLE ARE VIEWING IT SO ARE YOU INTERESTED OR NOT....I SAY THIS BECAUSE THERE APPEARS TO BE A LOT OF INQUISITVE POSTS ABOUT WIGAN....IT IS A MAGNETIC FASCINATION....DONT YOU THINK, UK AND THE REST OF THE WORLD, WE SHOULD TIE ALL OF THESE STRANDS TOGETHER BEFORE WERE ALL IN OUR COFFINS AND LEAVE A LEGACY FOR OTHER GENERATIONS TO UNDERSTAND?

ROB.H

[TheBigO]

In memory serves correct, and Taff should be able to verify, the only film inside the Casino that I know of was taken by Tom Hassett from Letchworth during the filming of This England doc during the breaks when the serious dancers took to the floor again after the cameras were off. Not sure where Tom or that film now are!

Edited February 2, 2010 by TheBigO

[Billywhizz]

READING DUBLINMAN'S THREAD....WELL, BEARING IN MIND THAT RICHARD SEARLING TOOK HIS BOX TO THE TOP OF THE WORLD STAFFORD WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, I PRESUME ITS POSSIBLE THE SPRINGER'S MAY HAVE BEEN A TAIL-END WIGAN RECORD LIKE SO MANY OTHERS THAT GOT STAFFORD STARTED BUT ITS PLAINLY OBVIOUS THAT NOTHIN'S TOO GOOD IS DUBBED OVER A SHORT FILM CLIP FROM WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUTUBE, SO ITS LIKELY , IN THAT FILM CLIP, IT WASNT WHAT THE DANCERS WERE MOVING TO. BUT THIS STARTED ME THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THATS INTRIGUING....SO HERE WE GO!.

BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT SOMEONE WHO IS 49 IN 2010, WOULD HAVE JUST ABOUT BEEN OLD ENOUGH TO ATTEND THE CASINO IN 1981, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET WHO:

TOOK A CAMERA TO THE CASINO AND STILL POSSESS PHOTOGRAPHS? Had a few,i gave one to Janine and Alison many years ago, theres one on my avatar as we speak. Billy

TOOK A CASSETTE RECORDER ALONG AND STILL HAVE TAPES? e.g ones that still sound audible as opposed to muffled.

I had an ITT recorder,all together about 30 odd tapes, i let them go to some lad in France when i was on ANS. Billy

WERE IN A DECENT JOB AND....COULD AFFORD TO PURCHASE A CINE-CAMERA AND.... HAVE GENUINE FOOTAGE....INCLUDING SOUND RECORDING? I had a cine 8 camara,no sound which was taken on footsie when it was on top of the pops. Transferred it to a cassette many years ago and to this day i can not find it. To have a film of footsie which was on top of the pops,is rarer than Frank Wilson.

Billy

LOOK... WEVE ALL SEEN THIS ENGLAND, SOUL FUNCTION AND EVEN FOOTSIE ON TOTP! BUT, BEARING IN MIND OVER 8 YEARS 1000'S OF PEOPLE MADE THE PILGRIMAGE

SURELY THERE MUST BE ENOUGH MATERIAL OUT THERE TO:

MAKE A CONCISE DVD AND EVEN A GOOD HARDBACK PHOTO ALBUM OR BIOGRAPHY.

SO....AFTER 40 YEARS, LETS HAVE A CONCENSUS AND GET EVERYONE IN ON IT...WOW!, MASSIVE PROJECT OR WHAT? WELL, THIS IS SOULSOURCE, THE BIGGEST WEB SITE PURELY FOR NORTHERN SOUL LOVERS AND IT SURELY CAN BE DONE. NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE AROUND FOREVER YET THERE HAS TO BE SO MUCH THAT WE STILL DONT KNOW OR WERENT PREVIOUSLY AWARE OF SO THIS COULD BE THE MOST AUTHORITATIVE EDICT OF THE SCENE WE LOVE AND THE VENUE THAT CAPTURED THE TRUE SPIRIT OF NORTHERN SOUL.

ROB.H

[dthedrug]

In memory serves correct, and Staff should be able to verify, the only film inside the Casino that I know of was taken by Tom Hassett from Letchworth during the filming of This England doc during the breaks when the serious dancers took to the floor again after the cameras were off. Not sure where Tom or that film now are!

Hi I can confirm it as i shot a lot of it I have said this before, it was taken on the night of England this England, unfortunately,All the Letchworth Crowd had a Premier night that also included the Mexican Taxi Driver from Stotfold..The film is in.******>? it's down to Tuff ? it's a very rare and unique and lots of balcony r/h side looking at Kieth and ? each spool is 20 Min's long & there's also Mug shots.

I would love to see it as for some reason I missed the night properly in HMP HOTELS, but somewhere in the Garden City there is real Super 8 Film of the Casino also we are all over the thing the red record box still got it

Dave(The Director)KIL

The Kids & Me ©Taff

[TheBigO]

F**K me is that a young Charlie Frost 4th right???? A legend for my generation and an all round top bloke! The Magnum tash is a bit worrying, much like Taffs high waisters!!!!!

[Agentsmith]

Hi I can confirm it as i shot a lot of it I have said this before, it was taken on the night of England this England, unfortunately,All the Letchworth Crowd had a Premier night that also included the Mexican Taxi Driver from Stotfold..The film is in.******>? it's down to Tuff ? it's a very rare and unique and lots of balcony r/h side looking at Kieth and ? each spool is 20 Min's long & there's also Mug shots.

I would love to see it as for some reason I missed the night properly in HMP HOTELS, but somewhere in the Garden City there is real Super 8 Film of the Casino also we are all over the thing the red record box still got it

Dave(The Director)KIL

The Kids & Me ©Taff

see dave, jogged your memory didnt it...so suspicions would be correct...NO ONE'S GOING TO TELL ME THAT IN 8 YEARS, SOMEONE DIDNT DO SOME INDEPENDANT FILMING FOR THEIR OWN KEEP SAKES. its like antiques roadshow isnt it?. so far 200+ people have looked at this. THERE ARE 6 BILLION PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET AND AMONGST THEM ARE MILLIONS OF NORTHERN SOUL LOVERS AND 100'S OF 1000'S WHO WENT TO WIGAN. THERE MUST BE ANORAKS WHO HAVE KEPT PRISTINE TAPES AND LOVINGLY PRESERVED PICS.

i can see this is going to take time to wake people up but as lainie hill said "time marches on". THERE ARE LOADS OF YOU I KNOW AND MANY WHO DONT KNOW ME FROM ADAM SO.....DO YOU THINK THIS IS AN INTERESTING THREAD THAT DESERVES TO BE EXPLORED, IF SO AND YOU HAVE THINGS TO SAY OR CONTRIBUTE GET ONLINE AND DO IT!.

SO FAR IV READ ALL THE THREADS ABOUT THE MUSIC, DJS, CLOTHES ETC,...WEVE ALL BOUGHT AND SEEN THESE....THATS TOO EASY....THIS IS THE REAL CHALLENGE....SO WHAT ABOUT ALL THE EX-PATS IN OZ FOR INSTANCE, WHAT DID THEY DISAPPEAR ABROAD WITH TO KEEP THEM COMPANY THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN HERE?

COME ON SOULIES, START PULLING THESE THREADS TOGETHER!

ROB.H

[Guest toby]

In memory serves correct, and Taff should be able to verify, the only film inside the Casino that I know of was taken by Tom Hassett from Letchworth during the filming of This England doc during the breaks when the serious dancers took to the floor again after the cameras were off. Not sure where Tom or that film now are!

Your memory is ok Neil,

Yes there was a film made by Tom,as far as i know he still has it somewhere,i think he still lives in Letchworth,but i have not seen him in over 10 years

But as you say im sure that Taffy can verify the film and Toms location along with the film,i did see it many many years ago......id forgotten all about it

Im sure Taffy will look thru'SS soon to confirm etc...

Dave K you were the leading light and founder of Northern in Letchworth along with Mick Smith,do you remember your flat in the Wynd (town center),fun times eh!!

Toby

[Guest becchio]

this is my fave one i took ,got some more if ya click on photo icon on my avavtar

Edited February 3, 2010 by becchio

[Guest becchio]

lol . some people keep saying theyv got photos but the tight gits never seem to share em .

i coudnt wait to share mine and hope people enjoy them

[dthedrug]

Your memory is ok Neil,

Yes there was a film made by Tom,as far as i know he still has it somewhere,i think he still lives in Letchworth,but i have not seen him in over 10 years

But as you say im sure that Taffy can verify the film and Toms location along with the film,i did see it many many years ago......id forgotten all about it

Im sure Taffy will look thru'SS soon to confirm etc...

Dave K you were the leading light and founder of Northern in Letchworth along with Mick Smith,do you remember your flat in the Wynd (town center),fun times eh!!

Toby

Hi TOBY Thanks for the comments

as you are well aware even though I have lived in WOLVES 30 years I still miss everyone from them Days as going to All- Nighters back in the 7ts was very hard work, up until the Peterborough St Ives and even Samantha's and the 2 Cleethorpes venues opened Just around the time of this Photo and it made things a bit more handy not just for the Letchworth crowd but for all Lovers of Rare SOUL /Northern Soul in the 3 counties in Bedford & Cambridge Crowds, But as Mick has Always stated I am Pure Wigan Casino by that he means if a Record starts with Bells Vibes or Slay Bells and it is over 80 MPH I would buy it? where the Mick Smiths of the Scene are pure Blackpool Mecca & Torch and in Micks Case a MOD through and through were I am Boot Boy (Skinhead) through & through- Your remarks are Kind and the strange thing I still call you all the Kids when I am talking about every one from Letchworth and Taffy still calls me DAD strange that and even Andy C for some unknown reason I seem to include him s one of the Kids why as he is my age beggars belief Properly because he has not got the Cockney traits of Mick & the Wild Wide Boy Aggression of the Kilworths??(ferrell), The Film is with Tom who I last met with in Mcdonalds 20 years ago and I told him to get the film put on Video and as far as I no it is the only movie film taken at the Casino, unless someone on here states other wise and as for requests about Photos from 67 to 75 most photos were the ones from booths on a strip, and also in that period of time the majority of people on the Northern Soul Scene came from the same type of background Working Class and to be seen with a Camera would of been like saying you were Gay back then & even Ian Levine could not do that as it would be a Kicking, this was only 2 years or so from the 67 act and we were all bigots then as we were all kids? Hence my right up on Drugs which is a good link to Charlie Frost as he was one of the few people who did not use any Drugs at all, And the Flat was owned by Joe Maylin, can you remember me breaking into the chemist near buy and my lookout bottled it and there was I casualty doing the place what was his name he lived in the fleets in Leys Avenue that Taffy lived in?? Toby I was going to Kettering on the Weekend but I really have had a bad time over the last 2 years and my health and more recently finances have been screwed up big time and at 58 I have become a recluse Paul M told me to go but this sounds soft I don't want to go if I don't recognise anyone that's how bad I have become stupid ain't it anyway Micks in Wolves Saturday Record fair time I will see him and he will advise me as he knows all about the sh*t that's gone on My LOVE TO YOU ALL and ALSO TO THE BEDFORD & CAMBRIDGE PEOPLE DAVE KIL

[Pete S]

Hi TOBY Thanks for the comments

as you are well aware even though I have lived in WOLVES 30 years I still miss everyone from them Days as going to All- Nighters back in the 7ts was very hard work, up until the Peterborough St Ives and even Samantha's and the 2 Cleethorpes venues opened Just around the time of this Photo and it made things a bit more handy not just for the Letchworth crowd but for all Lovers of Rare SOUL /Northern Soul in the 3 counties in Bedford & Cambridge Crowds, But as Mick has Always stated I am Pure Wigan Casino by that he means if a Record starts with Bells Vibes or Slay Bells and it is over 80 MPH I would buy it? where the Mick Smiths of the Scene are pure Blackpool Mecca & Torch and in Micks Case a MOD through and through were I am Boot Boy (Skinhead) through & through- Your remarks are Kind and the strange thing I still call you all the Kids when I am talking about every one from Letchworth and Taffy still calls me DAD strange that and even Andy C for some unknown reason I seem to include him s one of the Kids why as he is my age beggars belief Properly because he has not got the Cockney traits of Mick & the Wild Wide Boy Aggression of the Kilworths??(ferrell), The Film is with Tom who I last met with in Mcdonalds 20 years ago and I told him to get the film put on Video and as far as I no it is the only movie film taken at the Casino, unless someone on here states other wise and as for requests about Photos from 67 to 75 most photos were the ones from booths on a strip, and also in that period of time the majority of people on the Northern Soul Scene came from the same type of background Working Class and to be seen with a Camera would of been like saying you were Gay back then & even Ian Levine could not do that as it would be a Kicking, this was only 2 years or so from the 67 act and we were all bigots then as we were all kids? Hence my right up on Drugs which is a good link to Charlie Frost as he was one of the few people who did not use any Drugs at all, And the Flat was owned by Joe Maylin, can you remember me breaking into the chemist near buy and my lookout bottled it and there was I casualty doing the place what was his name he lived in the fleets in Leys Avenue that Taffy lived in?? Toby I was going to Kettering on the Weekend but I really have had a bad time over the last 2 years and my health and more recently finances have been screwed up big time and at 58 I have become a recluse Paul M told me to go but this sounds soft I don't want to go if I don't recognise anyone that's how bad I have become stupid ain't it anyway Micks in Wolves Saturday Record fair time I will see him and he will advise me as he knows all about the sh*t that's gone on My LOVE TO YOU ALL and ALSO TO THE BEDFORD & CAMBRIDGE PEOPLE DAVE KIL

Dave why don't you come to the charity do at the MEB club Chapel Ash on saturday night, I'll be there, well not for too long as my parents are babysitting, but for a couple of hours anyway. See you at the fair if not. Bear in mind the record fair is not this saturday but the saturday after!

Edited February 4, 2010 by Pete S

[Ezzie Brown]

i cant understand why so many people remember there early days on the scene. .......all a blur to me....so long ago...................the incidents i do remenber are blurred and embellished with time naturally.....yep i got a couple of live tapes and there ruined now, prob not much good when they where done anyway. lol.........good luck to all who get involved ...but live for todays scene , its no worse than the old days just different, like everything is, cheers ezzie

[Harrythedog]

Used to go from 1975 until 1979, with the Doncaster & Rotherham crowd and met up with a group from Rochdale. I have got a number of photos and a cassette from the Friday night Wheel & Torch night. As i remember at that time walking around generally taking photos was frowned upon, and if someone wandered about with a cine camera, i know for certain that they would have been warned off in no uncertain manner.

[Eddie Hubbard]

this is my fave one i took ,got some more if ya click on photo icon on my avavtar

Some good photos , love the colour one outside The Casino , superb ...Best wishes ,Eddie

[Eddie Hubbard]

READING DUBLINMAN'S THREAD....WELL, BEARING IN MIND THAT RICHARD SEARLING TOOK HIS BOX TO THE TOP OF THE WORLD STAFFORD WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, I PRESUME ITS POSSIBLE THE SPRINGER'S MAY HAVE BEEN A TAIL-END WIGAN RECORD LIKE SO MANY OTHERS THAT GOT STAFFORD STARTED BUT ITS PLAINLY OBVIOUS THAT NOTHIN'S TOO GOOD IS DUBBED OVER A SHORT FILM CLIP FROM WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUTUBE, SO ITS LIKELY , IN THAT FILM CLIP, IT WASNT WHAT THE DANCERS WERE MOVING TO. BUT THIS STARTED ME THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THATS INTRIGUING....SO HERE WE GO!.

BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT SOMEONE WHO IS 49 IN 2010, WOULD HAVE JUST ABOUT BEEN OLD ENOUGH TO ATTEND THE CASINO IN 1981, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET WHO:

TOOK A CAMERA TO THE CASINO AND STILL POSSESS PHOTOGRAPHS?

TOOK A CASSETTE RECORDER ALONG AND STILL HAVE TAPES? e.g ones that still sound audible as opposed to muffled.

WERE IN A DECENT JOB AND....COULD AFFORD TO PURCHASE A CINE-CAMERA AND.... HAVE GENUINE FOOTAGE....INCLUDING SOUND RECORDING?

LOOK... WEVE ALL SEEN THIS ENGLAND, SOUL FUNCTION AND EVEN FOOTSIE ON TOTP! BUT, BEARING IN MIND OVER 8 YEARS 1000'S OF PEOPLE MADE THE PILGRIMAGE

SURELY THERE MUST BE ENOUGH MATERIAL OUT THERE TO:

MAKE A CONCISE DVD AND EVEN A GOOD HARDBACK PHOTO ALBUM OR BIOGRAPHY.

SO....AFTER 40 YEARS, LETS HAVE A CONCENSUS AND GET EVERYONE IN ON IT...WOW!, MASSIVE PROJECT OR WHAT? WELL, THIS IS SOULSOURCE, THE BIGGEST WEB SITE PURELY FOR NORTHERN SOUL LOVERS AND IT SURELY CAN BE DONE. NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE AROUND FOREVER YET THERE HAS TO BE SO MUCH THAT WE STILL DONT KNOW OR WERENT PREVIOUSLY AWARE OF SO THIS COULD BE THE MOST AUTHORITATIVE EDICT OF THE SCENE WE LOVE AND THE VENUE THAT CAPTURED THE TRUE SPIRIT OF NORTHERN SOUL.

ROB.H

Great idea...wish you every success with this ,I'll see what I've got ..Best,Eddie

[dthedrug]

Great idea...wish you every success with this ,I'll see what I've got ..Best,Eddie

If you are serious go to a Uni that has its own Faculty for Art & Design blag yourself into the Deans office talk to him about Post modernist retrospective facets formulating from 6ts modernism in metamorphosing into 7ts uniformed unpractical fashion of glam..deflect the attention away from the obscene middle classes into a sub culture that can only have survived on the banning of advertisement's not the mixed tongues of chines whisper but into a world of matrix were the 6ts word plastic meant false but vinyl was gold and through osmosis the creation of the worlds undisturbed subculture that for long geverty only the stench of the Hells Angels Hog seat can rival the perfume of the urinals in Wigan Casino and we have chosen your media student to collate and clip for the 50th anniversary of the first recognised soul All-Nighter the Scene, he will be like putty in your hand a bit like the young girl who is orgasmic at the prospect? Or you could just say can we borrow you stuff to make a movie in fact make a movie about these blokes who meet up from creating the concept of making a movie it could be a modern Carry on the Soul scene or "more than SKIN Deep"© the Movie, I think i should leave my pickle onions and whelk sarnies tonight Dave(the nutter)Kil

[Agentsmith]

If you are serious go to a Uni that has its own Faculty for Art & Design blag yourself into the Deans office talk to him about Post modernist retrospective facets formulating from 6ts modernism in metamorphosing into 7ts uniformed unpractical fashion of glam..deflect the attention away from the obscene middle classes into a sub culture that can only have survived on the banning of advertisement's not the mixed tongues of chines whisper but into a world of matrix were the 6ts word plastic meant false but vinyl was gold and through osmosis the creation of the worlds undisturbed subculture that for long geverty only the stench of the Hells Angels Hog seat can rival the perfume of the urinals in Wigan Casino and we have chosen your media student to collate and clip for the 50th anniversary of the first recognised soul All-Nighter the Scene, he will be like putty in your hand a bit like the young girl who is orgasmic at the prospect? Or you could just say can we borrow you stuff to make a movie in fact make a movie about these blokes who meet up from creating the concept of making a movie it could be a modern Carry on the Soul scene or "more than SKIN Deep"© the Movie, I think i should leave my pickle onions and whelk sarnies tonight Dave(the nutter)Kil

ah, me old china,

just took a days sabatical on account of internet dosnt like telford and every 2nd wednesday of month it pulls a fast one and logs off....very strange?

so, 700+ have looked now and 20 replies....better have a nice bit of mahogany or teak ordered. if its true, i cant understand why people would not want to share their keepsakes and souveniers with the rest of the family as theyre achieving no objective at all....oh, by the way it took neil rushton, bless him, 4 years to put his brilliant observation of northern soul life together and he is living to see the result. im no author, producer,archivist etc., but if this thing ever stirs the imagination of enough people im sure that someone with collateral nowse will come forward and snowball it....THE CLOCK IS TICKING AND WHAT THIS THREAD NEEDS IS FOR 700 VIEWS TO BE OUTNUMBERED BY 700 POSTS.

YES IT SOUNDS LIKE IM ASKING FOR THE WORLD TOMORROW BUT,...SOMEONE ELSE WILL SHUFFLE OFF THEIR MORTAL COIL JUST LIKE THERE'S NO 1ST WORLD WAR VETERANS LEFT AND WE AINT GOT NO FURTHER TO SOLVING THE MYTH AND MYSTERY.

so there's some unique footage that no ones seen, thats great...if you believe there's life on other planets then there has to be more film...in the hands of a 70's tourist even?...this is it isnt it? we have to get to the bottom of the truth to build upwards.

just think on this...A GLOSSY HARDBACK 800 PAGE DICTIONARY WITH HUNDREDS OF PREVIOUSLY UNSHARED PICTURES AND UNCHARTED TESTIMONIALS TO THE VENUE...AND....IN THEORY, A DVD CONTAINING ONE OR SEVERAL OFFERINGS OF COLOUR FOOTAGE THAT WERE THOUGHT, NEVER TO EXIST...BLOODY HELL, EVEN GRANADA WOULD BE INSANE TO TRASH ANYTHING THAT THEY HAD EDITED AND CANNED BACK IN 77/78?.

DAVE, YOU'RE A FEW NOTCHES OLDER THAN ME BUT OUR GENERATIONS HAVE OBVIOUSLY EARNED THE RESPECT OF OTHERS, LIKE I SAY SOUL SOURCE MEMBERS DONT KNOW ME FROM ADAM BUT YOU MUST AGREE ITS AS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER AND PRESERVE YOUR PAST AS IT IS TO NURTURE THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS WHO ARE GETTING INTO THIS MUSIC AS A MEANS OF ESCAPING THE DESOLATION THAT IS POP MUSIC AS WE KNOW IT NOW.

ROB.H

P.S. EDDIE,....HOW GOOD IS SUBCITY?

[Pete S]

ah, me old china,

just took a days sabatical on account of internet dosnt like telford and every 2nd wednesday of month it pulls a fast one and logs off....very strange?

so, 700+ have looked now and 20 replies....better have a nice bit of mahogany or teak ordered. if its true, i cant understand why people would not want to share their keepsakes and souveniers with the rest of the family as theyre achieving no objective at all....oh, by the way it took neil rushton, bless him, 4 years to put his brilliant observation of northern soul life together and he is living to see the result. im no author, producer,archivist etc., but if this thing ever stirs the imagination of enough people im sure that someone with collateral nowse will come forward and snowball it....THE CLOCK IS TICKING AND WHAT THIS THREAD NEEDS IS FOR 700 VIEWS TO BE OUTNUMBERED BY 700 POSTS.

YES IT SOUNDS LIKE IM ASKING FOR THE WORLD TOMORROW BUT,...SOMEONE ELSE WILL SHUFFLE OFF THEIR MORTAL COIL JUST LIKE THERE'S NO 1ST WORLD WAR VETERANS LEFT AND WE AINT GOT NO FURTHER TO SOLVING THE MYTH AND MYSTERY.

so there's some unique footage that no ones seen, thats great...if you believe there's life on other planets then there has to be more film...in the hands of a 70's tourist even?...this is it isnt it? we have to get to the bottom of the truth to build upwards.

just think on this...A GLOSSY HARDBACK 800 PAGE DICTIONARY WITH HUNDREDS OF PREVIOUSLY UNSHARED PICTURES AND UNCHARTED TESTIMONIALS TO THE VENUE...AND....IN THEORY, A DVD CONTAINING ONE OR SEVERAL OFFERINGS OF COLOUR FOOTAGE THAT WERE THOUGHT, NEVER TO EXIST...BLOODY HELL, EVEN GRANADA WOULD BE INSANE TO TRASH ANYTHING THAT THEY HAD EDITED AND CANNED BACK IN 77/78?.

DAVE, YOU'RE A FEW NOTCHES OLDER THAN ME BUT OUR GENERATIONS HAVE OBVIOUSLY EARNED THE RESPECT OF OTHERS, LIKE I SAY SOUL SOURCE MEMBERS DONT KNOW ME FROM ADAM BUT YOU MUST AGREE ITS AS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER AND PRESERVE YOUR PAST AS IT IS TO NURTURE THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS WHO ARE GETTING INTO THIS MUSIC AS A MEANS OF ESCAPING THE DESOLATION THAT IS POP MUSIC AS WE KNOW IT NOW.

ROB.H

P.S. EDDIE,....HOW GOOD IS SUBCITY?

Rob if I had anything you could have it but all my photos were lost in a house move in 1991.

I am also still in complete shock after seeing that Top Of The Pops footage of Footsee. I never thought I would ever see that again. I was saying to Eddie that I think it may have come from a BBC 3 documentary where they show just a small amount of footage and someone managed to record it. To all intents and purposes, it was lost.

[Agentsmith]

Rob if I had anything you could have it but all my photos were lost in a house move in 1991.

I am also still in complete shock after seeing that Top Of The Pops footage of Footsee. I never thought I would ever see that again. I was saying to Eddie that I think it may have come from a BBC 3 documentary where they show just a small amount of footage and someone managed to record it. To all intents and purposes, it was lost.

pete,

remember watching it there and then, infact i think steve powell said they made at least three appearances the "tourists" just stood around in amazement!. bloody footsie.....the late bryn lane (r.i.p. 1979) had blue max's original soussan acetate with car horns on and no football crowd and.....a record collection that mysteriously disappeared from sight?.

remember, that was 1975.....anyway SO AS NOBODY GETS THE WRONG IDEA.....I'LL EMPHASIZE, I DONT WANT PERSONAL RECOLLECTIONS OR EXHIBITS FOR ME .....I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY SCRATCH THEIR HEADS, RACK THEIR BRAINS AND ALL DO IT IN UNISON, NOT JUST IN THE UK BUT WORLDWIDE....WHEREVER THERE ARE SOUL AND EX-SOUL PEOPLE WHO JUST SO HAPPEN TO HAVE IN COMMOMN THE FACT THEY WERE THERE.....I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.....DONT WE ALL THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE EPITOME OF ALL WE HAVE KNOWN, SEEN AND HEARD IN ONE DEFINITIVE COLLECTION. IF ITS A PHOTOGRAPH ALBUM WOULDN'T THAT BE BRILLIANT?.....NOTHING LIKE THAT EXISTS TO STIR EVERYONE'S MEMORIES AT THE SAME TIME. people are posting pictures on here.......BUT THEY SHOULD BE ALTOGETHER IN A COMPREHENSIVE BOOK! can you see what im driving at?.

as for cinefilm, we could and should, be getting somewhere, AGAIN, DO WE WANT TO BE REMINISCING OVER A FEW EDITED CLIPS. INTO DOTEAGE?.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN OUR RANKS WHO HAVE THE CONNECTIONS AND KNOWHOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. 800+ on the board now, lets keep it going but we want 800 POSTS AS WELL!. i'll bet many of you are nodding your heads thinking this is a potential project....WELL, I BELIEVE IT IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL FOR THE SAKE OF POSTERITY AND FOR MUSICAL HISTORY BECAUSE, MARK MY WORDS, WITHOUT DOUBT NORTHERN SOUL IS THE BIGGEST SINGLE CULT MUSIC PHENOMENON THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN AND WILL SEE AND THE VENUE THAT SEALED ITS DESTINY IS WIGAN CASINO.

ROB.H

[Agentsmith]

Rob if I had anything you could have it but all my photos were lost in a house move in 1991.

I am also still in complete shock after seeing that Top Of The Pops footage of Footsee. I never thought I would ever see that again. I was saying to Eddie that I think it may have come from a BBC 3 documentary where they show just a small amount of footage and someone managed to record it. To all intents and purposes, it was lost.

pete,

remember watching it there and then, infact i think steve powell said they made at least three appearances the "tourists" just stood around in amazement!. bloody footsie.....the late bryn lane (r.i.p. 1979) had blue max's original soussan acetate with car horns on and no football crowd and.....a record collection that mysteriously disappeared from sight?.

remember, that was 1975.....anyway SO AS NOBODY GETS THE WRONG IDEA.....I'LL EMPHASIZE, I DONT WANT PERSONAL RECOLLECTIONS OR EXHIBITS FOR ME .....I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY SCRATCH THEIR HEADS, RACK THEIR BRAINS AND ALL DO IT IN UNISON, NOT JUST IN THE UK BUT WORLDWIDE....WHEREVER THERE ARE SOUL AND EX-SOUL PEOPLE WHO JUST SO HAPPEN TO HAVE IN COMMOMN THE FACT THEY WERE THERE.....I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.....DONT WE ALL THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE EPITOME OF ALL WE HAVE KNOWN, SEEN AND HEARD IN ONE DEFINITIVE COLLECTION. IF ITS A PHOTOGRAPH ALBUM WOULDN'T THAT BE BRILLIANT?.....NOTHING LIKE THAT EXISTS TO STIR EVERYONE'S MEMORIES AT THE SAME TIME. people are posting pictures on here.......BUT THEY SHOULD BE ALTOGETHER IN A COMPREHENSIVE BOOK! can you see what im driving at?.

as for cinefilm, we could and should, be getting somewhere, AGAIN, DO WE WANT TO BE REMINISCING OVER A FEW EDITED CLIPS. INTO DOTEAGE?.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN OUR RANKS WHO HAVE THE CONNECTIONS AND KNOWHOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. 800+ on the board now, lets keep it going but we want 800 POSTS AS WELL!. i'll bet many of you are nodding your heads thinking this is a potential project....WELL, I BELIEVE IT IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL FOR THE SAKE OF POSTERITY AND FOR MUSICAL HISTORY BECAUSE, MARK MY WORDS, WITHOUT DOUBT NORTHERN SOUL IS THE BIGGEST SINGLE CULT MUSIC PHENOMENON THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN AND WILL SEE AND THE VENUE THAT SEALED ITS DESTINY IS WIGAN CASINO.

ROB.H

[Guest Bearsoul]

LOOK IN MY PROFILE UNDER 'GALLERY' PICS WOT I TOOK AT WIGAN...SADLY LOST LOADS OF PICS YEARS AGO AND STILLED PISSED ABOUT IT . I FIRST WENT TO WIGAN WHEN I WAS 15 AND AT SCHOOL ! 50 now !

CLICK ALL IMAGES PAGE 3

CHRIS 'BEARSOUL' MORGAN

STUFF ON WEBSITE TOO WWW.BEARSOUL.MOONFRUIT.COM

Edited February 5, 2010 by bearsoul

[Mike]

Rob if I had anything you could have it but all my photos were lost in a house move in 1991.

I am also still in complete shock after seeing that Top Of The Pops footage of Footsee. I never thought I would ever see that again. I was saying to Eddie that I think it may have come from a BBC 3 documentary where they show just a small amount of footage and someone managed to record it. To all intents and purposes, it was lost.

Pete

reads like you seen it recently

that right ?

if so, maybe it come from below

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/articles/news-soul/wigan-chosen-few-totp-tape-exists

[Agentsmith]

LOOK IN MY PROFILE UNDER 'GALLERY' PICS WOT I TOOK AT WIGAN...SADLY LOST LOADS OF PICS YEARS AGO AND STILLED PISSED ABOUT IT . I FIRST WENT TO WIGAN WHEN I WAS 15 AND AT SCHOOL ! 50 now !

CLICK ALL IMAGES PAGE 3

CHRIS 'BEARSOUL' MORGAN

STUFF ON WEBSITE TOO WWW.BEARSOUL.MOONFRUIT.COM

see, i was right about the age limit for 80/81 the theory bears out....i was 16+ in 74 when i first went hence, 52 now so.....you can see there is a group of generations who associate exclusively with the casino and its a fair bet that the oldest group would range between 65 and 68 so some old soulies are already collecting their pensions but dont want anyone to know!. its this group who would have the most vivid recollections i reason and probably some of the earliest photos. nearly 900 views so it must make interesting and intense debate. i dont know if its like talking to big brother, but if soulsource took over this thread and allocated a unique seperate section where all this information could be stored then possibly more people would contribute if they new where to direct it. in the meantime i bet its making many a mouth salivate at the prospect of this film footage turning up but, like i say with so many tourists having visited the casino, there has to be a likelihood, even if remote, that someone has something else of value.

RIGHT THEN LETS SEE THIS HIT THE 1000+BARRIER AND A 100 POSTS....YOU KNOW ITS POSSIBLE, JUST JOG THE GREYCELLS!

CHEERS FOR YOUR COMMENTS, CHRIS

ROB.H

[Agentsmith]

LOOK IN MY PROFILE UNDER 'GALLERY' PICS WOT I TOOK AT WIGAN...SADLY LOST LOADS OF PICS YEARS AGO AND STILLED PISSED ABOUT IT . I FIRST WENT TO WIGAN WHEN I WAS 15 AND AT SCHOOL ! 50 now !

CLICK ALL IMAGES PAGE 3

CHRIS 'BEARSOUL' MORGAN

STUFF ON WEBSITE TOO WWW.BEARSOUL.MOONFRUIT.COM

CORRECTION CHRIS AND APOLOGIES, 15.... THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 76 YES? A PERIOD WHEN THE CASINO WAS IN FULL FLOW AND SOME FANTASTIC TUNES!

[Mike]

see, i was right about the age limit for 80/81 the theory bears out....i was 16+ in 74 when i first went hence, 52 now so.....you can see there is a group of generations who associate exclusively with the casino and its a fair bet that the oldest group would range between 65 and 68 so some old soulies are already collecting their pensions but dont want anyone to know!. its this group who would have the most vivid recollections i reason and probably some of the earliest photos. nearly 900 views so it must make interesting and intense debate. i dont know if its like talking to big brother, but if soulsource took over this thread and allocated a unique seperate section where all this information could be stored then possibly more people would contribute if they new where to direct it. in the meantime i bet its making many a mouth salivate at the prospect of this film footage turning up but, like i say with so many tourists having visited the casino, there has to be a likelihood, even if remote, that someone has something else of value.

RIGHT THEN LETS SEE THIS HIT THE 1000+BARRIER AND A 100 POSTS....YOU KNOW ITS POSSIBLE, JUST JOG THE GREYCELLS!

CHEERS FOR YOUR COMMENTS, CHRIS

ROB.H

Rob

Site team dont always catch every post so best bet for suggestions like above is to post up in feedback, that way team is aware and can look at things, plus replies/dicsussion on such doesnt then clog the threads up.

Think know what you mean but if you post in feedback can answer better there

Just a tip. Posting in capitals does make posts hard to read, it work better if switch over to lower case

cheers

mike

[Pete S]

Pete

reads like you seen it recently

that right ?

if so, maybe it come from below

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/articles/news-soul/wigan-chosen-few-totp-tape-exists

I don't know Mike, I still think it must have been a short incidental clip from a more recent documentary. Central tv did one about Pete Waterman about 5 years ago and included Northern dancing footage which I'd never seen before and as you know, I was sure I had everything. I used to have a really good friend way on the inside at the BBC, he got me tons of Bowie stuff which had never been seen since the day it was broadcast, also three or four full episodes of TOTP from 71-72, sadly he left and I've lost touch with him now.

[Steve Foran]

READING DUBLINMAN'S THREAD....WELL, BEARING IN MIND THAT RICHARD SEARLING TOOK HIS BOX TO THE TOP OF THE WORLD STAFFORD WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, I PRESUME ITS POSSIBLE THE SPRINGER'S MAY HAVE BEEN A TAIL-END WIGAN RECORD LIKE SO MANY OTHERS THAT GOT STAFFORD STARTED BUT ITS PLAINLY OBVIOUS THAT NOTHIN'S TOO GOOD IS DUBBED OVER A SHORT FILM CLIP FROM WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUTUBE, SO ITS LIKELY , IN THAT FILM CLIP, IT WASNT WHAT THE DANCERS WERE MOVING TO. BUT THIS STARTED ME THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THATS INTRIGUING....SO HERE WE GO!.

BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT SOMEONE WHO IS 49 IN 2010, WOULD HAVE JUST ABOUT BEEN OLD ENOUGH TO ATTEND THE CASINO IN 1981, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET WHO:

TOOK A CAMERA TO THE CASINO AND STILL POSSESS PHOTOGRAPHS?

TOOK A CASSETTE RECORDER ALONG AND STILL HAVE TAPES? e.g ones that still sound audible as opposed to muffled.

WERE IN A DECENT JOB AND....COULD AFFORD TO PURCHASE A CINE-CAMERA AND.... HAVE GENUINE FOOTAGE....INCLUDING SOUND RECORDING?

LOOK... WEVE ALL SEEN THIS ENGLAND, SOUL FUNCTION AND EVEN FOOTSIE ON TOTP! BUT, BEARING IN MIND OVER 8 YEARS 1000'S OF PEOPLE MADE THE PILGRIMAGE

SURELY THERE MUST BE ENOUGH MATERIAL OUT THERE TO:

MAKE A CONCISE DVD AND EVEN A GOOD HARDBACK PHOTO ALBUM OR BIOGRAPHY.

SO....AFTER 40 YEARS, LETS HAVE A CONCENSUS AND GET EVERYONE IN ON IT...WOW!, MASSIVE PROJECT OR WHAT? WELL, THIS IS SOULSOURCE, THE BIGGEST WEB SITE PURELY FOR NORTHERN SOUL LOVERS AND IT SURELY CAN BE DONE. NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE AROUND FOREVER YET THERE HAS TO BE SO MUCH THAT WE STILL DONT KNOW OR WERENT PREVIOUSLY AWARE OF SO THIS COULD BE THE MOST AUTHORITATIVE EDICT OF THE SCENE WE LOVE AND THE VENUE THAT CAPTURED THE TRUE SPIRIT OF NORTHERN SOUL.

ROB.H

Great thread I think I have some stuff somewhere. RE the original thread by dublinman could some kind soul point me in the direction of the video please?

[Eddie Hubbard]

Great thread I think I have some stuff somewhere. RE the original thread by dublinman could some kind soul point me in the direction of the video please?

Steve , here is the link to the video , hope you are ok mate ..Best wishes ,Eddie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di02cko2SMM

[Mike]

I don't know Mike, I still think it must have been a short incidental clip from a more recent documentary. Central tv did one about Pete Waterman about 5 years ago and included Northern dancing footage which I'd never seen before and as you know, I was sure I had everything. I used to have a really good friend way on the inside at the BBC, he got me tons of Bowie stuff which had never been seen since the day it was broadcast, also three or four full episodes of TOTP from 71-72, sadly he left and I've lost touch with him now.

ahh, cheers Pete

there is itn video libary database some where online that may help/confirm

when see threads like this do wonder if anyone ever followed up that auction in the link, the episode was listed, know the price was high, but given the collecting side of things and price of vinyl wonder what value coudl put on it, or say if a promoter got hold sure could do something with it to cover costs

local tv stations may have something, there was that saturday banana saturday morning tv thing planned which got cancelled cause of unions , maybe others did similar ?

[Guest bazabod_downunder]

Tough call but would be fantastic if some unseen footage was unearthed, I have pics but as most other peoples shot on a 110 & mostly looking down at the dance floor from the right hand side balcony, I'll dig them out & post them, I had a fair few tapes but I think there may only be one or two in a box somewhere & the quality wouldn't be up to much with a mic dangling over the top of the balcony & invariably the batteries running out, I might try & put them on the computer to see if I can clean up the sound & add some clarity.

KTF

Baz

READING DUBLINMAN'S THREAD....WELL, BEARING IN MIND THAT RICHARD SEARLING TOOK HIS BOX TO THE TOP OF THE WORLD STAFFORD WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, I PRESUME ITS POSSIBLE THE SPRINGER'S MAY HAVE BEEN A TAIL-END WIGAN RECORD LIKE SO MANY OTHERS THAT GOT STAFFORD STARTED BUT ITS PLAINLY OBVIOUS THAT NOTHIN'S TOO GOOD IS DUBBED OVER A SHORT FILM CLIP FROM WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUTUBE, SO ITS LIKELY , IN THAT FILM CLIP, IT WASNT WHAT THE DANCERS WERE MOVING TO. BUT THIS STARTED ME THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THATS INTRIGUING....SO HERE WE GO!.

BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT SOMEONE WHO IS 49 IN 2010, WOULD HAVE JUST ABOUT BEEN OLD ENOUGH TO ATTEND THE CASINO IN 1981, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET WHO:

TOOK A CAMERA TO THE CASINO AND STILL POSSESS PHOTOGRAPHS?

TOOK A CASSETTE RECORDER ALONG AND STILL HAVE TAPES? e.g ones that still sound audible as opposed to muffled.

WERE IN A DECENT JOB AND....COULD AFFORD TO PURCHASE A CINE-CAMERA AND.... HAVE GENUINE FOOTAGE....INCLUDING SOUND RECORDING?

LOOK... WEVE ALL SEEN THIS ENGLAND, SOUL FUNCTION AND EVEN FOOTSIE ON TOTP! BUT, BEARING IN MIND OVER 8 YEARS 1000'S OF PEOPLE MADE THE PILGRIMAGE

SURELY THERE MUST BE ENOUGH MATERIAL OUT THERE TO:

MAKE A CONCISE DVD AND EVEN A GOOD HARDBACK PHOTO ALBUM OR BIOGRAPHY.

SO....AFTER 40 YEARS, LETS HAVE A CONCENSUS AND GET EVERYONE IN ON IT...WOW!, MASSIVE PROJECT OR WHAT? WELL, THIS IS SOULSOURCE, THE BIGGEST WEB SITE PURELY FOR NORTHERN SOUL LOVERS AND IT SURELY CAN BE DONE. NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE AROUND FOREVER YET THERE HAS TO BE SO MUCH THAT WE STILL DONT KNOW OR WERENT PREVIOUSLY AWARE OF SO THIS COULD BE THE MOST AUTHORITATIVE EDICT OF THE SCENE WE LOVE AND THE VENUE THAT CAPTURED THE TRUE SPIRIT OF NORTHERN SOUL.

ROB.H

[Pete S]

ahh, cheers Pete

there is itn video libary database some where online that may help/confirm

when see threads like this do wonder if anyone ever followed up that auction in the link, the episode was listed, know the price was high, but given the collecting side of things and price of vinyl wonder what value coudl put on it, or say if a promoter got hold sure could do something with it to cover costs

local tv stations may have something, there was that saturday banana saturday morning tv thing planned which got cancelled cause of unions , maybe others did similar ?

I'm sure it's insiders smuggle most of the stuff out. I've got 3 tracks by the Damned from 1977 from an unbroadcast show directed by Mike Mansfield. Never shown anywhere.

[Mike]

ahh just seen that clip on the youtube link just posted

that same bit you were on about Pete?

3-5 secs, think the guys mirrored it to use same clip again later

looks different than what i remeber

[Pete S]

ahh just seen that clip on the youtube link just posted

that same bit you were on about Pete?

3-5 secs, think the guys mirrored it to use same clip again later

looks different than what i remeber

Ah now thats weird because when I told Eddie I'd seen this yesterday for the first time since it's broadcast, it looked exactly how I remembered it to be. Three minutes of footage viewed just once 35 years ago, it's amazing that we can still get a picture of it in our heads at all. I have to say it made me feel very strange watching it, I actually felt like crying, I don't know why, very emotional, like a bit of lost youth coming back to me yeah I know, but thats what it felt like

[Mike]

Ah now thats weird because when I told Eddie I'd seen this yesterday for the first time since it's broadcast, it looked exactly how I remembered it to be. Three minutes of footage viewed just once 35 years ago, it's amazing that we can still get a picture of it in our heads at all. I have to say it made me feel very strange watching it, I actually felt like crying, I don't know why, very emotional, like a bit of lost youth coming back to me yeah I know, but thats what it felt like

maybe my dodgy memory or the camera angle of that clip

trick be ask central where clip come from and any more of it

few members involved in that type of work on here

if there is more and central have any wits about them

they could do a "now and then" sort of human interest mini-doc thing

fronted by alan partridge of course

[Agentsmith]

Rob

Site team dont always catch every post so best bet for suggestions like above is to post up in feedback, that way team is aware and can look at things, plus replies/dicsussion on such doesnt then clog the threads up.

Think know what you mean but if you post in feedback can answer better there

Just a tip. Posting in capitals does make posts hard to read, it work better if switch over to lower case

cheers

mike

mike,

sorry if its causing confusion, naturally im composing this as i go along and some of the strong statements i feel have to be voiced in capitals, almost in bold type like trying to make people sit up and notice without doing it aurally, with the pretense that it actually is. it certainly seems to work as over a 1000+ people have viewed it and now we are getting a response from our antipodean brothers. the fact that you have responded suggests that the snowball effect has every chance of succeeding....if it does, it'll need somebody bigger than this ordinary joe to turn it into a serious workable project. to everyone else out there, pics and tapes are of great relevance now so it goes to show they are not in scant supply and some of you are posting them, maybe now others wont find it so hard to reveal their previously hidden or forgotten past especially if they think its for the greater good of the scene......oh look........no capitals....im an observant person!. so keep it going, lets have 1500 views and 100 posts by sunday and next week, 2000 views and 200 posts hopefully by that time somebody influential will jump in and say " lets get it on".

can i just add ( on the vicky baines thread ) to me the epitome of spine-tingling, hairs standing up on the back of your neck dancers. 1978 could never be more vivid, amongst some of the mediocrity, this was a beacon to show wigan could still dish the tunes.....stand on the balcony?....come on malc where's yer 40 inchers?....on the floor mate, on the floor!

rob.h

[Guest Bogue]

Pete...or anyone for that matter...do you know who the lads were that were dancing to Footsee on TOTP ? Because I have a vague memory of a bunch of older lads from Warndon Youth Center in Worcester being amongst them.

Probably wouldn't help much in respect of a video but if i'm right there is a good chance that they might have some pics of the day. I'll do some delving see what I can find...I can remember at least one of them's name.

As an aside :- Today's generation just don't know how lucky they are to have things like camera phones eh!!

Edited February 5, 2010 by Bogue

[dthedrug]

Hi Soulsters especially those who have creative minds!..This could be the latent start of what I believe to be the same desire that the Writer/Editor/Producers of Fanzines must of dreamed of when creating material that they believed at the time they realised that there was a gap in the market where certain information that they had gathered over the years was not lost in the manure of time?.. A few days back in a article Pete S informed a member of the meaning of the rubber # stamp on 6ts DECCA labels was all about..this took me back nearly 40 years and triggered of the feelings of enlightenment and my increased knowledge base and also the individual who told me this info made me even more to collect 45s and as such the Sage to Student relationship started and it is this knowledge sharing that is the backbone of the very essence of the Rare SOUL Scene, as we all have our own personal Sages and the Scene has it's top Sages even if you never met them or were 2 young their Names are so familiar to us All and so much so some of these well known names have taken on PANTOMINE roles as Good Guys or the Bad Villain if I say "Alan Day & TORCH" Vs "Ian Levine DJ" what do you think? it is just the same if you say the word "Vietnam" if you auto thoughts are of WAR and not of a modern and Beautiful Country as the War finished over 30 years ago and your opinion is contaminated and biased to USA Hollywood's interpretation of GOOD against BAD and the issues of FACT Vs FICTION if not put into context or documented as History of our Sub-Culture that we covert with a passion, so much so it scares or confuses the new people of the Scene hence no young blood as the patronage of the Soul Scene has become dictatorial and right wing almost anti-social and unwelcoming and strong element of Dictatorial Capitalists who are unchallenged in what you here and don't here??

Over the last few years like Swish and a few more like minded people it has been a personal desire to write a book about my troubled life which has been clothed in the youth sub cultures from the late 6ts into the early 7ts under a working title of "more than SKIN Deep" the book was not about just Photos alone but what lay behind the picture? in other words try and put the picture in correct context? It still baffles myself and if you no better but the History of the period 68 to 74 seams to myself already and deliberately omits the the working class Youth Sub Cultures that I am speaking of all you see is the Middle Class students of France and the UK getting beaten up Tariq Ali and so on Marc Bolan Glam Kensington Market Sasha & Biba and then its Prog Rock and Punk Rock all reference to the 68 to 71 Skinhead is omitted or there are the familiar clips from the TROJAN film on the Wembley Concert of Jamaican Reggae (the story on that film is a good one as the whole film is very Rare ask PeteR as he is one of the few with it??)

To conclude this thread should be achieved and I for one will be very happy in helping it manifest into reality with SOULSORCE DAVE KIL

"Wot A Wonderhul Place"-

"where are all the septics gone"©2009

[Mike]

Rob

If got it right you are calling for a archive to be put together of video, photos and such from 70s, you mentioned a possible dvd and a book, and trying to get someone involved

Prefer to talk about in feedback, but if I read what you are saying right , there are many ways the site and its features can assist in such a project

There is the gallery which can quite easily be used for images.

Can set up a members category where all can upload in a few minutes

Video clips are slightly different as refosoul can be used to store/display video clips but it does encode them to a site format

However it could be a reference rather than an archive

Obviously with such a project there can be some concerns, whos the driving force, aim of it all, copyright issues ( not sure how a dvd or book would work)

but yep, sure any of the site features can be used

If let us know what after more than happy to assist , be it get things going with image categories or whatever

cheers

mike

[Agentsmith]

Pete...or anyone for that matter...do you know who the lads were that were dancing to Footsee on TOTP ? Because I have a vague memory of a bunch of older lads from Warndon Youth Center in Worcester being amongst them.

Probably wouldn't help much in respect of a video but if i'm right there is a good chance that they might have some pics of the day. I'll do some delving see what I can find...I can remember at least one of them's name.

As an aside :- Today's generation just don't know how lucky they are to have things like camera phones eh!!

aye up lad,

follow "wigans chosen few" post...they dont breed wolverhampton dancers like they used to!....best of it is, paul derby never appeared on it and he was a truely outstanding dancer but you can see him on "soul function"

rob.h

[Agentsmith]

Rob

If got it right you are calling for a archive to be put together of video, photos and such from 70s, you mentioned a possible dvd and a book, and trying to get someone involved

Prefer to talk about in feedback, but if I read what you are saying right , there are many ways the site and its features can assist in such a project

There is the gallery which can quite easily be used for images.

Can set up a members category where all can upload in a few minutes

Video clips are slightly different as refosoul can be used to store/display video clips but it does encode them to a site format

However it could be a reference rather than an archive

Obviously with such a project there can be some concerns, whos the driving force, aim of it all, copyright issues ( not sure how a dvd or book would work)

but yep, sure any of the site features can be used

mike,

i guess ive hit a nerve and a lot of people like the sound, but really, im just making the proposition that this should be an affair where everyone gets invloved in putting something together and no one person is charged with taking the credit because that leads to inevitable critisism and politicing....i also dont know how to use any of your other facilities, its like going back to primary school. nearly 1500 views, i knew this would be a totally different wigan thread because its saying dont have 300 different casino memories going on at the same time when the reality is they could all be under one banner and actually bring about something, hard cold and solid and bought for money across a counter and not forever "virtual". im pleased soulsource and yourself think this could be a life changing opportunity, giving people the chance to have in their hands, a reference to the past when the memories are starting to fade....just a glance will keep bringing it all flooding back.

rob.h

If let us know what after more than happy to assist , be it get things going with image categories or whatever

cheers

mike

[Guest Bogue]

aye up lad,

follow "wigans chosen few" post...they dont breed wolverhampton dancers like they used to!....best of it is, paul derby never appeared on it and he was a truely outstanding dancer but you can see him on "soul function"

rob.h

Hadn't seen that one.

I'm sure I remember a there being a contingent from this neck of the woods going up to TOTP for it though...I guess they could have just been in the audience crowd rather than on the stage though?

[Pete S]

Hadn't seen that one.

I'm sure I remember a there being a contingent from this neck of the woods going up to TOTP for it though...I guess they could have just been in the audience crowd rather than on the stage though?

Said above mate, the names are all in Neil's book but unfortunately it's not here so can't quote them to you, I honestly don't think there were any from Worcester though, their tractor broke down on the way...

[Codfromderby]

Pete...or anyone for that matter...do you know who the lads were that were dancing to Footsee on TOTP ? Because I have a vague memory of a bunch of older lads from Warndon Youth Center in Worcester being amongst them.

Probably wouldn't help much in respect of a video but if i'm right there is a good chance that they might have some pics of the day. I'll do some delving see what I can find...I can remember at least one of them's name.

As an aside :- Today's generation just don't know how lucky they are to have things like camera phones eh!!

as i remember, one dancer was ronnie newall from derby, he later found faith and turned to jesus, not seen him in years, (before the smart arses start i meant ronnie not jesus),

[Guest Bogue]

Said above mate, the names are all in Neil's book but unfortunately it's not here so can't quote them to you, I honestly don't think there were any from Worcester though, their tractor broke down on the way...

At least us cuntry folk could afford a Trattor...bet the yam yam's had to thumb it

I'm sure there is something in what i say though...could it have been on more than one week?....or perhaps it could have been another record ? something like Wayne Gibson. I'll see if I can find out more.

[Guest Bogue]

as i remember, one dancer was ronnie newall from derby, he later found faith and turned to jesus, not seen him in years, (before the smart arses start i meant ronnie not jesus),

[Mike]

i guess ive hit a nerve and a lot of people like the sound, but really, im just making the proposition that this should be an affair where everyone gets invloved in putting something together and no one person is charged with taking the credit because that leads to inevitable critisism and politicing....i also dont know how to use any of your other facilities, its like going back to primary school. nearly 1500 views, i knew this would be a totally different wigan thread because its saying dont have 300 different casino memories going on at the same time when the reality is they could all be under one banner and actually bring about something, hard cold and solid and bought for money across a counter and not forever "virtual". im pleased soulsource and yourself think this could be a life changing opportunity, giving people the chance to have in their hands, a reference to the past when the memories are starting to fade....just a glance will keep bringing it all flooding back.

rob.h

Rob

I think have got where you are coming from, you are proposing a non-virtual real world sort of wigan archive book affair yep ?

Sounds like a project that would be appreciated by many, hopefully this thread has stirred some interest and helps get things going.

There are members involved in publishing, have you spoke to any of them ?

Maybe if they are reading this they can drop ya a pm.

Sounds like a worthwhile thing, best of luck getting it going

cheers

mike