Winstanley's Disoveries?

[Davenpete]

Just heard The Chiffons "Sweet talking guy" on the radio, Russ used to play an instrumental version of this a lot...

Got it for sale on eBay now.

Dx

[Pete S]

I'm not having James Coit as RW. Because I was there, I first heard this in the Morecambe/Lancaster area. bought it cheap and at the time I did a couple of spots in Mr M's in the early session before the all-nighter, played it, Searling came over and asked if he could 'borrow' it. I said he could, if he played it. in the event he didn't, but gave it to the DJ following him, who did. That's the first play at WC. I remember people singing the hookline as they flooded out in the morning. what an awful recording !

 

I'm sure Minshull was first to play Black Power, same night as he played Tim Tam for the first time?

[Pete S]

I'm sure Minshull was first to play Black Power, same night as he played Tim Tam for the first time?

 

March 11th 78, got it on tape, my 18th birthday allnighter

[Simsy]

The problem with this thread , i.e. the debating and confirming as to what WC sounds that Dustbin Stanley " discovered " , any acknowledgemnt of them will be overshadowed by the feelings that people have for him , and the stigma of being associated with Simon Soussan .

 

Edit. Nothing pos to say, say nowt.

Edited November 30, 2013 by Simsy

[jocko]

 

I was there in '79, can't remember 'My Generation' being played, or a massive influx of revival Mods, I think a lot of existing NS fans reverted to Mod clothes, because it was the fashion. But then I can't recall coachloads of Slade fans accompanied by Pan's People tipping up at 'nighters just because Footsie was in the pop charts. I also love an Urban Myth.

 

I think it was much later, late 80, early 81 when some young mods arrived, and some of us young dudes as you were saying started wearing harringtons etc (I wore one pretty much every Saturday) but never directly a mod, in fact I was quite anti mod at that point considering they were too retro, the Saturday nights had instilled an anti oldies attitude after only going for about 3 months, ah the cockinesses of Youth. Pretty sure they did have a mod allnighter, certainly a Motown one in that period but it was empty, as many were, but the most Quadrophenia style record I remember from then was Green Onions, I remember it very well as I jumped up thinking it was Lou Pride, yes I know but I was young and new to the game, and after realising it wasn't waved my arms as if I was moaning about what they were playing but not dancing! So my vote is the Who never got played unless this Mod allnighter happened

Russ wasn't that bad in my short time there, some big old things Posse and Dee Dee Barnes being biggies on my dance floor, even things like Gene Latter And the Mary Wilson Candi Staton c/u I loved at that time. He was generally playing to a few hundred die hards so it wasn't a huge challenge for him. It was all over for me and Russ in September 1981 and he now just doesn't feature in my world, thankfully.

[Guest Matt Male]

 

It was all over for me and Russ in September 1981 and he now just doesn't feature in my world, thankfully.

 

 

Not even a card at Christmas?

[Barry]

 

 

I think it was much later, late 80, early 81 when some young mods arrived, and some of us young dudes as you were saying started wearing harringtons etc (I wore one pretty much every Saturday) but never directly a mod, in fact I was quite anti mod at that point considering they were too retro, the Saturday nights had instilled an anti oldies attitude after only going for about 3 months, ah the cockinesses of Youth. Pretty sure they did have a mod allnighter, certainly a Motown one in that period but it was empty, as many were, but the most Quadrophenia style record I remember from then was Green Onions, I remember it very well as I jumped up thinking it was Lou Pride, yes I know but I was young and new to the game, and after realising it wasn't waved my arms as if I was moaning about what they were playing but not dancing! So my vote is the Who never got played unless this Mod allnighter happened

Russ wasn't that bad in my short time there, some big old things Posse and Dee Dee Barnes being biggies on my dance floor, even things like Gene Latter And the Mary Wilson Candi Staton c/u I loved at that time. He was generally playing to a few hundred die hards so it wasn't a huge challenge for him. It was all over for me and Russ in September 1981 and he now just doesn't feature in my world, thankfully.

 

Yeah, quite a few local scooter clubs would turn up at that time and generally they always seemed to sit on the stage for that 'we're here now' look.

 

I remember Warrington Scooter Club doing the same, so I waited for my chance and robbed all the peaks to their helmets - funny watching em in the car park in the morning with their now 'shit pot' helmets on.

Edited November 29, 2013 by Barry

[jocko]

 

Not even a card at Christmas?

 

The restraining order makes if difficult, if not impossible.

[Guest Dave Ward]

I'm sure Minshull was first to play Black Power, same night as he played Tim Tam for the first time?

I can't remember which DJ Richard gave it to, to play, I know it was immediately after his set and was the first one played by the next DJ. Hope this ties in with your tape recording Pete. Edited November 29, 2013 by Dave Ward

[Steve G]

I can't remember which DJ Richard gave it to play, I know it was after RS's set and was the first one played by the next DJ. Hope this ties in with your tape Pete.

 

Yep that would be Keith then…..he normally followed Richard...

[Otis Smith]

I used to enter Mr m's via gerrys inn, pint,pool and then early session, with searling, soul twins etc. I had found a copy of James Coit and len barry- you baby, in a secondhand shop, in southport, that very same day.Both sold that night, as soon as I got there, more than likely, already known, by then. Since, led to believe James coit, to have been a soul pack record.

[Pete S]

I can't remember which DJ Richard gave it to, to play, I know it was immediately after his set and was the first one played by the next DJ. Hope this ties in with your tape recording Pete.

 

It's hard to remember specific weeks now, maybe the one I have was the second week it was played, because people seemed to know it by then?

[TOAD]

James coit was played in early 78 @Coalville all-nighters by soul sam

[pogo paul]

1 page advert for mod allnighter in blues and soul magazine in 1980, wasn't it Prince Buster- Al Capone, that caused all the fuss.

One of the music mags printed a list of Russ discoveries,i'll try and find it.

Edited November 30, 2013 by pogo paul

[TOAD]

1 page advert for mod allnighter in blues and soul magazine in 1980, wasn't it Prince Buster- Al Capone, that caused all the fuss. Yes you are correct but it was played on a Saturday night

One of the music mags printed a list of Russ discoveries,i'll try and find it.

[Wicked]

John Bowie, You've Gonna Miss A Good Thing was a decent Russ spin.

He played tons tons and tons of cr@p in my time though, used to go to early sessions on a Friday too, he was the resident in my time so I heard him a lot, I do remember him playing Yum Yums Big Thing, was he the first,?? Could well be, kudos if he was.

People used to tell me that in his earlier years he was much much better, but in my time, he was a stooge for Sousaan, to get a record pressed that he could go on and make some coin, he always looked bored out of his brain on the decks.

A few others off the top of my head I know for sure that he played regular, and were regarded as his spins.

The Point Of No Return, Dusk. cr@p

Bobby Diamond, Stop. (which I think is a great record).

Joey Heatherton When You Call Me Baby.

And he deffo make James Coit, Black Power massive at the Casino, not my cup of tea, but that was a very big record in it's day.

I thought Joey Heatherton was a Richard spin, but I may be wrong (I usually am ) was it Russ that played Prince and Princess Stick Together ?

Edited November 30, 2013 by wicked

[Jim G]

Notwithstanding the fact the Russ played some rubbish Richard did as well and "broke" and played many a white pop piece of trash (I too have same tape as Pete S where Richard plays Gary Lewis in 1974)

 

Back on topic, as mentioned earlier, Tobi Legend, he broke and pushed it death. I have loved it from first hearing and for that I forgive him some of his awful records at that time. Can't forgive some of sins since then, but hey ho.

[Barry]

Remember Russ' little record booth/stall upstairs on the M's side balcony?

[Pete S]

I thought Joey Heatherton was a Richard spin, but I may be wrong (I usually am ) was it Russ that played Prince and Princess Stick Together ?

 

It was, he had it covered up for ages as Cindy Scott.  Richard also played Prince & Princess.

[Steve G]

Remember Russ' little record booth/stall upstairs on the M's side balcony?

Yes first couple of visits it was my first stop, til I realised it was mostly bootlegs in there…..Didn't his wife work in there?

 

 Richard also played Prince & Princess.

 

Yes agreed. £4 from Soul Bowl at the time Richard was playing it. i know becos I bought one…..

[Steve G]

One of the music mags printed a list of Russ discoveries,i'll try and find it.

 

Don't try too hard Paul   

Edited November 30, 2013 by Steve G

[Jim G]

Yes first couple of visits it was my first stop, til I realised it was mostly bootlegs in there…..Didn't his wife work in there?

 

 

Yes agreed. £4 from Soul Bowl at the time Richard was playing it. i know becos I bought one…..

 

Yep his wife worked there. I bought a few from her, nearly all originals as well!

[Steve G]

Yep his wife worked there. I bought a few from her, nearly all originals as well!

 

I didn't go til 76 or 77. But yes now you come to mention it there were originals in there as well….two rows of 45s…..

 

Coke 30p a bottle, Barmcakes - Jees what a place.

Edited November 30, 2013 by Steve G

[Barry]

I didn't go til 76 or 77. But yes now you come to mention it there were originals in there as well….two rows of 45s…..

 

Coke 30p a bottle, Barmcakes - Jees what a place.

 

The patches used to be stuck up inside the window.

[SHEFFSOUL]

Notwithstanding the fact the Russ played some rubbish Richard did as well and "broke" and played many a white pop piece of trash (I too have same tape as Pete S where Richard plays Gary Lewis in 1974)

 

Back on topic, as mentioned earlier, Tobi Legend, he broke and pushed it death. I have loved it from first hearing and for that I forgive him some of his awful records at that time. Can't forgive some of sins since then, but hey ho.

 

..no surprise..'My hearts symphony' was massive for about a month..i remember it played at wigan and the dancefloor got mobbed..it was of its time like many more..

[SHEFFSOUL]

Yep his wife worked there. I bought a few from her, nearly all originals as well!

 

yep..i bought Larry Hale £1...mustve slipped thru the net..

[Wiganer1]

I got chrystal motion - main squeeze 50p at the end of an era night

[Barry]

I got chrystal motion - main squeeze 50p at the end of an era night

 

Oh the thrill of getting home with stuff that got played.

[Chatty]

Didn't he break the "biggest record of" them all?

[Guest Soultown andy]

It was, he had it covered up for ages as Cindy Scott.  Richard also played Prince & Princess.

 

JH definatley searling discovered and sold to him by siz from Manchester,think siz also discovered sue lyn unfortunately. 

[spot]

He discovered the Wogan/Scargill hair style & most definitely did NOT discove FW, Bloody hell he wanted to play all Soussan's & Pye's crap.    

Spot.  

[Guest gfarrington]

[Wiganer1]

that was one keith minshulls gary -  bigger culprit imo

[Drewtg]

Gotta feel sorry for Russ (Tee hee). He could have been a legend, instead all people will remember him for is Joe 90 and Tony Blackburn.

 

You reap what you sow

[Guest smudgesmith]

tommy bush was his which is really popular again...

 

You may be wrong there Mark.I was with RS at Soul Bowl when we both purchased this and RS didnt know it at that time.

[Wiganer1]

hi smudge...prob one of those he made big,,,he was big for him in 78 ..but im sure ive got a tape of him playing it in 75....

 

glad I got my copy cheap before the price went mad

[SHEFFSOUL]

hi smudge...prob one of those he made big,,,he was big for him in 78 ..but im sure ive got a tape of him playing it in 75....

 

glad I got my copy cheap before the price went mad

yes it was big before '78..ive a few tapes with TB on..

[grouse]

ps when he played leon Thomas L-O-V-E I used to think it was called "Hello Vicky"

 

So did I,

 

I was recording tapes quite regularly from 78 to 80 and apart from Richard Searling who was outstanding more or less throughout and Gary Rushbrooke (towards the end) I don't think RW was playing anything worse than anyone else. Think Love Hustle and Tim Tam.

 

But as soon as Wigan Tiffanies started I went there instead......

Edited December 10, 2013 by grouse

[ZootSuit]

think they all had one as it used to get played half a dozen times a night at one stage

Torch as well !!!!

[Guest DeeJay]

more Russ exclusives:

sammy lee - what goes around

servicemen - sweet magic

I'll list them as they come into my head...

 

I remember him playing Jay Traynor exclusively from about 77 on

[Jim G]

Perhaps Russ's biggest discovery was not a record, but the Casino itself. Had the venue never opened what impact would it have had. Many current fans and people on here got their first real experience of the music and the scene by going to the Casino and became lifelong fans since then. Just a thought...

[Scal]

Perhaps Russ's biggest discovery was not a record, but the Casino itself. Had the venue never opened what impact would it have had. Many current fans and people on here got their first real experience of the music and the scene by going to the Casino and became lifelong fans since then. Just a thought...

[Scal]

Wise words, mate!

[Wiganer1]

royal blues orchestra be young be foolish be happy.thats one of his. first heard him spin it 77.

horn cut of the tams hit with girly backing.

this has never turned up - been after for 25 years !

[Gilly]

Only decent thing that I remember was the Ambassadors, Too Much Of A Good Thing or can someone correct me on that.

[Pete S]

Only decent thing that I remember was the Ambassadors, Too Much Of A Good Thing or can someone correct me on that.

 

I remember Alan Rhodes playing this. I think. Twas long ago.

[macca]

Didn't know he was responsibe for Jay Traynor, but it figures. Along with Ben Zine, Construction-Del Capris, a "Wigan Walk" demonstration record. Hated them all.

[Rob Wigley]

Construction was a Searling record i think ?

 

What about Nightwatch.."from your lips to your heart" ?

[Pete S]

Construction was a Searling record i think ?

 

What about Nightwatch.."from your lips to your heart" ?

 

Construction was Searling alone...

ask Rod about Nightwatch 

[Zed1]

 

 

What about Nightwatch.."from your lips to your heart" ?

 

Wasn't this CU as the Elingtons?...