Benji Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Wanted: Lost Family - Blow my mind - Int. Music Bag VG++ or better Willing to pay 20 quid incl. post and Paypal fees. Anyone? Please PM Thanks Benji
Paul-s Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Wanted: Lost Family - Blow my mind - Int. Music Bag VG++ or better Willing to pay 20 quid incl. post and Paypal fees. Anyone? Please PM Thanks Benji I have a copy. will check condition tonight...best paul
Benji Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 I have a copy. will check condition tonight...best paul Thanks but I'm already sorted...
Ernie Andrews Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Thanks but I'm already sorted... Benji - Watch out for the Int music bag repros mate!
Benji Posted January 21, 2010 Author Posted January 21, 2010 Benji - Watch out for the Int music bag repros mate! Phew! Lucky me, the one I bought is on Innovation. I didn't know it came out on two labels, that's why I wrote Int. Music Bag in my post.
bri pinch Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Phew! Lucky me, the one I bought is on Innovation. I didn't know it came out on two labels, that's why I wrote Int. Music Bag in my post. INNOVATION 2 BETTER SOUND QUALITY MATE BRI PINCH. YORK SOUL CLUB, SAT 6TH FEB.
boba Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 Benji - Watch out for the Int music bag repros mate! there are no repros
Benji Posted January 22, 2010 Author Posted January 22, 2010 INNOVATION 2 BETTER SOUND QUALITY MATE BRI PINCH. YORK SOUL CLUB, SAT 6TH FEB. same Innovation 2 as Babs Hall?
Sebastian Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 same Innovation 2 as Babs Hall? Yes. The International Music Bag copies I've had sounds just as good as the INNOVATION II copies though (and the IMB copies are on vinyl, not styrene).
Liljimmycrank Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 What's the crack with the diff labels then? Which one's rarer, best to have etc?
Dave Pinch Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 What's the crack with the diff labels then? Which one's rarer, best to have etc? BOUT THE SAME, UNLESS YOU GOT THE DEMO'S OF EM. DAVE.
Maxwell Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 BOUT THE SAME, UNLESS YOU GOT THE DEMO'S OF EM. DAVE. How much does the white demo on Innovation go for?
Dave Pinch Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 How much does the white demo on Innovation go for? ONLY £25/30 NICE THO DAVE
Ernie Andrews Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 there are no repros Yes there are Boba its the colour of the Text one is Straight blue and one is Red and Blue You dont know eveything mate!
boba Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) Yes there are Boba its the colour of the Text one is Straight blue and one is Red and Blue You dont know eveything mate! no it's not, who bootlegged it? If you're saying it's bootlegged because a certain seller in vegas is selling it, I know exactly where he got the records from, he got them from Stormy, a group member, Stormy specifically told me about dealing with him, that's also where he got the Saborian and the Los LPs he sells. The record was pressed more than once, it was a local hit, the fact that there are label variations doesn't mean that one's a boot. If you have more information than speculation based on a label variation, please post it, otherwise your post is 100% unfair speculation. Edited January 23, 2010 by boba
boba Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 no it's not, who bootlegged it? If you're saying it's bootlegged because a certain seller in vegas is selling it, I know exactly where he got the records from, he got them from Stormy, a group member, Stormy specifically told me about dealing with him, that's also where he got the Saborian and the Los LPs he selles. The record was pressed more than once, it was a local hit, the fact that there are label variations doesn't mean that one's a boot. If you have more information than speculation based on a label variation based, please post it, otherwise your post is 100% unfair speculation. oh yeah, i have found both label variations in chicago at least 10 years ago btw, was it booted then?
KevH Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 Benji - Watch out for the Int music bag repros mate! Which begs the question - why would it get booted?.I thought it was a case of one label picking it up from the other ( IMB to Inn II?).
Ernie Andrews Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 oh yeah, i have found both label variations in chicago at least 10 years ago btw, was it booted then? Maybe because the las vegas person unfortunately let it slip in a conversation. But its like anything Bob unless you were there at the time anything is pure speculation in this business. And as Peter Brown told me in person in New York you can have anything pressed up for small dollars these days - (Amazing how the Saborion LPs look so new)
Ernie Andrews Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) Which begs the question - why would it get booted?.I thought it was a case of one label picking it up from the other ( IMB to Inn II?). The reason is quite simple Kev - MUS Int label presses only so many - It gets picked up by a national or subsiduary. It becomes popular so someone boots or represses the local label as its more bother if you do the Big label or its Subsiduary. Take it from an old bootlegger - Admit that one if you have BOB! I think I have hit a nerve here in Bobas replies to me! Edited January 23, 2010 by Ernie Andrews
boba Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 Maybe because the las vegas person unfortunately let it slip in a conversation. But its like anything Bob unless you were there at the time anything is pure speculation in this business. And as Peter Brown told me in person in New York you can have anything pressed up for small dollars these days - (Amazing how the Saborion LPs look so new) the saborian LPs look new because they were never distributed. Stormy (RIP) and his ex-wife have boxes of them still sealed in shrink and they look just like that. They were selling them to joe for $7 apiece. You are just spreading lies now. You did hit a nerve because I hate when people go on the internet and make up straight up lies based on random speculation (in this case, a different color label, like there aren't a million cases of original presses with slight label variations). I have no loyalty to a known bootlegger in las vegas who has ripped lots of people off. And I have been wrong about things and I admit it when I am wrong, apparently unlike you.
boba Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) The reason is quite simple Kev - MUS Int label presses only so many - It gets picked up by a national or subsiduary. It becomes popular so someone boots or represses the local label as its more bother if you do the Big label or its Subsiduary. Take it from an old bootlegger - Admit that one if you have BOB! I think I have hit a nerve here in Bobas replies to me! that's ridiculous, I used to have 2 25 count boxes of this, this was an ultra common record in chicago, why would I end up with a bootleg I bought off Joe in las vegas? This record was super common (which is another reason no one would ever boot it). I don't know if stormy ever even ran out of originals. Now you're accusing me of making up a story to legitimize me having a bootleg. Nice. Edited January 24, 2010 by boba
boba Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 the saborian LPs look new because they were never distributed. Stormy (RIP) and his ex-wife have boxes of them still sealed in shrink and they look just like that. They were selling them to joe for $7 apiece. You are just spreading lies now. You did hit a nerve because I hate when people go on the internet and make up straight up lies based on random speculation (in this case, a different color label, like there aren't a million cases of original presses with slight label variations). I have no loyalty to a known bootlegger in las vegas who has ripped lots of people off. And I have been wrong about things and I admit it when I am wrong, apparently unlike you. one final point -- Joe's bootlegs look pretty obviously like recent presses -- e.g. the toby bullard. It would be hard for you to convince me that he could make a record that looked like and had vinyl similar to the lost family vinyl, it would likely have the 80s style vinyl. Why don't you post the emails where he let it slip that he bootlegged it (or was it over the phone)?
Dranny Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 Local issue imo , label cheaply printed my copy slight warp with imperfection in the vinyl , have you ever seen a boot with a warp not sure looks original to me Martyn
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