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Yes there are Boba its the colour of the Text one is Straight blue and one is Red and Blue

You dont know eveything mate!

no it's not, who bootlegged it? If you're saying it's bootlegged because a certain seller in vegas is selling it, I know exactly where he got the records from, he got them from Stormy, a group member, Stormy specifically told me about dealing with him, that's also where he got the Saborian and the Los LPs he sells. The record was pressed more than once, it was a local hit, the fact that there are label variations doesn't mean that one's a boot. If you have more information than speculation based on a label variation, please post it, otherwise your post is 100% unfair speculation.

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no it's not, who bootlegged it? If you're saying it's bootlegged because a certain seller in vegas is selling it, I know exactly where he got the records from, he got them from Stormy, a group member, Stormy specifically told me about dealing with him, that's also where he got the Saborian and the Los LPs he selles. The record was pressed more than once, it was a local hit, the fact that there are label variations doesn't mean that one's a boot. If you have more information than speculation based on a label variation based, please post it, otherwise your post is 100% unfair speculation.

oh yeah, i have found both label variations in chicago at least 10 years ago btw, was it booted then?


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oh yeah, i have found both label variations in chicago at least 10 years ago btw, was it booted then?

Maybe because the las vegas person unfortunately let it slip in a conversation. But its like anything Bob unless you were there at the time anything is pure speculation in this business. And as Peter Brown told me in person in New York you can have anything pressed up for small dollars these days - (Amazing how the Saborion LPs look so new)

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Which begs the question - why would it get booted?.I thought it was a case of one label picking it up from the other ( IMB to Inn II?).

The reason is quite simple Kev - MUS Int label presses only so many - It gets picked up by a national or subsiduary. It becomes popular so someone boots or represses the local label as its more bother if you do the Big label or its Subsiduary. Take it from an old bootlegger - Admit that one if you have BOB!

I think I have hit a nerve here in Bobas replies to me!

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Maybe because the las vegas person unfortunately let it slip in a conversation. But its like anything Bob unless you were there at the time anything is pure speculation in this business. And as Peter Brown told me in person in New York you can have anything pressed up for small dollars these days - (Amazing how the Saborion LPs look so new)

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the saborian LPs look new because they were never distributed. Stormy (RIP) and his ex-wife have boxes of them still sealed in shrink and they look just like that. They were selling them to joe for $7 apiece. You are just spreading lies now. You did hit a nerve because I hate when people go on the internet and make up straight up lies based on random speculation (in this case, a different color label, like there aren't a million cases of original presses with slight label variations). I have no loyalty to a known bootlegger in las vegas who has ripped lots of people off. And I have been wrong about things and I admit it when I am wrong, apparently unlike you.

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The reason is quite simple Kev - MUS Int label presses only so many - It gets picked up by a national or subsiduary. It becomes popular so someone boots or represses the local label as its more bother if you do the Big label or its Subsiduary. Take it from an old bootlegger - Admit that one if you have BOB!

I think I have hit a nerve here in Bobas replies to me!

that's ridiculous, I used to have 2 25 count boxes of this, this was an ultra common record in chicago, why would I end up with a bootleg I bought off Joe in las vegas? This record was super common (which is another reason no one would ever boot it). I don't know if stormy ever even ran out of originals. Now you're accusing me of making up a story to legitimize me having a bootleg. Nice.

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the saborian LPs look new because they were never distributed. Stormy (RIP) and his ex-wife have boxes of them still sealed in shrink and they look just like that. They were selling them to joe for $7 apiece. You are just spreading lies now. You did hit a nerve because I hate when people go on the internet and make up straight up lies based on random speculation (in this case, a different color label, like there aren't a million cases of original presses with slight label variations). I have no loyalty to a known bootlegger in las vegas who has ripped lots of people off. And I have been wrong about things and I admit it when I am wrong, apparently unlike you.

one final point -- Joe's bootlegs look pretty obviously like recent presses -- e.g. the toby bullard. It would be hard for you to convince me that he could make a record that looked like and had vinyl similar to the lost family vinyl, it would likely have the 80s style vinyl. Why don't you post the emails where he let it slip that he bootlegged it (or was it over the phone)?


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