Matt Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Brilliant tune- great to see it being played again- would love one myself but pretty rare- brings me back to Stafford in the 80's
Guest jkw Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Brilliant tune- great to see it being played again- would love one myself but pretty rare- brings me back to Stafford in the 80's Bradys Lee Otis Williams C/U?
Ged Parker Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Southern Artists is the local issue and therefore should be rarer. Mind you your more likely to get one in that condition that one in the Bell copies condition. I think it was Pat that played this first but not sure on the Lee Otis Williams C/U name. It was 25+ years ago
Reg Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) Covered up as Lee Otis Valentine not Williams. Edited January 19, 2010 by Reg
Scooterboy Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I think it was originally covered up by Pat Brady as Lee Otis Valentine & The Lost Souls. I remember travelling all over the country as a young impressionable fledgling 'soulie' to hear Pat play this at ths start and end of his 'sets'. It took me 20 years to get a copy (from Neil Brown - thanks Buddy) on Bell (just about as Minty as you can get) and it's still my No.1 tune of all time as it brings back many, many happy memories. Sourced a copy on Southern Artists for Dave Truscott not long after getting mine and this now lives in France with Trevor Bridge. Still makes the hair stand up on the back of neck every time I hear it.
Matt Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I think it was originally covered up by Pat Brady as Lee Otis Valentine & The Lost Souls. I remember travelling all over the country as a young impressionable fledgling 'soulie' to hear Pat play this at ths start and end of his 'sets'. It took me 20 years to get a copy (from Neil Brown - thanks Buddy) on Bell (just about as Minty as you can get) and it's still my No.1 tune of all time as it brings back many, many happy memories. Sourced a copy on Southern Artists for Dave Truscott not long after getting mine and this now lives in France with Trevor Bridge. Still makes the hair stand up on the back of neck every time I hear it. I know Carl Willingham had one a few years ago, I think it was sold, Not sure if it was on Bell or local label. I have only the cheap bootleg that was brought out at the time, at least I can listen to the sound at home but would love an original to play out. Nice to see a copy in such great condition- well done mate!
grant Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Brilliant tune- great to see it being played again- would love one myself but pretty rare- brings me back to Stafford in the 80's and memories of parr hall, warrington
Anoraks Corner Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I had a Bell demo and Irish Greg had a Southern Artists copy...a right pair at the time of the Capitol Soul Club (By the way and off on a tangent, Jimmy Church's superb Northern track, 'Right on time' also came out on Southern Artists as well as SS7...there's one prime for reactivation!)
Ady Croasdell Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Could someone put up the sound on the flip or send it me somehow please? We've got an extended version from the master tape
Guest jkw Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Covered up as Lee Otis Valentine not Williams. of course...duhhhh
Phil Shields Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 one of the truly brilliant 45s and I'd love a copy......£10 a month anybody
Marc Forrest Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Bradys Lee Otis Williams C/U? One of the rare 45s he sold onto Gary Spencer who again made it very popular end eighties/start nineties. Marc
Upthejunction Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Manships price difference between the two labels seems to be narrowing. Edition 3 - Southern Artists £700 , Bell £400 Edition 5 - Southern Artists £1250, Bell £1000. If you can get one, you're more likely to get a better condition one on Bell, I've got a minty one, and no I'm not selling ATB Steve
Pete S Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I had a Bell demo and Irish Greg had a Southern Artists copy...a right pair at the time of the Capitol Soul Club (By the way and off on a tangent, Jimmy Church's superb Northern track, 'Right on time' also came out on Southern Artists as well as SS7...there's one prime for reactivation!) You checked your emails lately Dave?
Anoraks Corner Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 You checked your emails lately Dave? Funny you say that, Pete, as a bunch to one of my addresses suddenly all bulk-arrived over the last 48 hours Nothing from you, mind...should I be expecting anything in particular...PM me Back to the Hytones...you also have an alternative take of YDEKMN at Ace Towers, Ady, albeit not as good as the released version...imo
Pete S Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Funny you say that, Pete, as a bunch to one of my addresses suddenly all bulk-arrived over the last 48 hours Nothing from you, mind...should I be expecting anything in particular...PM me Back to the Hytones...you also have an alternative take of YDEKMN at Ace Towers, Ady, albeit not as good as the released version...imo Yes mate emailed you saturday or sunday...will find the ,message and pm you
Pete S Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Funny you say that, Pete, as a bunch to one of my addresses suddenly all bulk-arrived over the last 48 hours Nothing from you, mind...should I be expecting anything in particular...PM me Back to the Hytones...you also have an alternative take of YDEKMN at Ace Towers, Ady, albeit not as good as the released version...imo It won't let me PM you, keeps saying message content is empty..so will have to paste it here Dave, Pete here, hope you're ok, I'll take whatever you've got of these, if any Best wishes pete DAVE MITCHELL 30 DEL ROYALS 25 EMANUEL LASKEY ACETATE - IS IT THE ISSUED TAKE - IF IT'S AN ALT TAKE I'LL TAKE IT IF AVAILABLE EXCITERS 10 SOMETHING WEIRD HAPPENED NEXT, I COULD NOT SEE ANY OF THE TEXT USING EITHER IE OR FIREFOX, I'D SEEN IT EARLIER ANDS THERE WAS A HOWARD TATE - YOU'RE LOOKING GOOD FOR...150? I'D DEFINITELY WANT THAT IF DEFINITELY EX CONDITION. KNICKERBOCKERS 75 SYLVIE VARTAN 10
Anoraks Corner Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 It won't let me PM you, keeps saying message content is empty..so will have to paste it here PM reply sent...feel free to delete your post...back to the Hy-Tones (sorry chaps!)
Trevor Bridge Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Yes, as Chris Penn says, I was lucky enough to get the Hy-Tones Southern Artists copy that he'd sourced for Dave Truscott - and its in superb condition. One of the all-time great tunes! Trevor Bridge
Guest JIM BARRY Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Yes, as Chris Penn says, I was lucky enough to get the Hy-Tones Southern Artists copy that he'd sourced for Dave Truscott - and its in superb condition. One of the all-time great tunes! Trevor Bridge YOURS IS A BOOT PAL
KevH Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 I had a Bell demo and Irish Greg had a Southern Artists copy...a right pair at the time of the Capitol Soul Club (By the way and off on a tangent, Jimmy Church's superb Northern track, 'Right on time' also came out on Southern Artists as well as SS7...there's one prime for reactivation!) Didn't know about the JC on Southern Artists,but you're damn right about it being prime. Back on topic i'd have a Southern Artists Hytones please.
Dave Pinch Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 PERSONALLY IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE, HAVE SEEN MORE COPIES ON SOUTHERN ARTISTS THAN BELL, ARE THE RECORDINGS THE SAME, HEARD THEY WERE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. DAVE.
Chalky Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 PERSONALLY IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE, HAVE SEEN MORE COPIES ON SOUTHERN ARTISTS THAN BELL, ARE THE RECORDINGS THE SAME, HEARD THEY WERE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. DAVE. Back in the day hardly saw one on either then saw more on Bell but in more recent years seen more probably on Southern Artists. If both came up for auction I doubt there would be too much price discrepancy between either release.
Ady Croasdell Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 I'd still love to hear the flip if anyone can oblige. ta Ady
Mr Soul Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 TOOK ME YEARS TO GET ONE OF THESE,ON SOUTHERN ARTISTS OF COURSE BUT IN A CONVERSATION WITH BUTCH HE RECKONED STILL SHIT RARE ON BELL, EITHER WAY MY ALLTIME TUNE
Chalky Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 is there an article about the Hytones, wasn't Dan involved?????? or am I thinking of summat else?
Ady Croasdell Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 is there an article about the Hytones, wasn't Dan involved?????? or am I thinking of summat else? Dan certainly got me eddie Frierson's number and that's how Good News eventually came out. Thanks for the clip Simon. Ady
Benji Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 I know three Hy-Tones tracks only, "You don't even know my name", "bigger and better" and "good news". It's still hard for me to believe they're the same group on all three songs. Musical style and vocals are sooo different. E.g. "YDEKMN" sounds poppy and blue-eyed whereas "good news" is pure Sam & Dave. What do you guys think?
boba Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 I know three Hy-Tones tracks only, "You don't even know my name", "bigger and better" and "good news". It's still hard for me to believe they're the same group on all three songs. Musical style and vocals are sooo different. E.g. "YDEKMN" sounds poppy and blue-eyed whereas "good news" is pure Sam & Dave. What do you guys think? my friend said the same thing but the article in shades of soul confirmed they were the same group
Pete S Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 I did post up some footage of the Hy-Tones from "Night Train", I think they did two solo numbers and backing vocals on several others. I think "Bigger and better" must be by a different group. "You don't even know my name" is surely by a bad white group.
boba Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) I did post up some footage of the Hy-Tones from "Night Train", I think they did two solo numbers and backing vocals on several others. I think "Bigger and better" must be by a different group. "You don't even know my name" is surely by a bad white group. it's not. in derek pearson's magazine article (he didn't write the text though) they even talk about how one of the members sold his copy of "you don't even know my name" to some Brit. the flip of "bigger and better" is an awesome sweet soul cut that is very deep ish, called "I've got my baby" btw. Edited January 23, 2010 by boba
Chalky Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 Do you know which issue of Shades of Soul the article is in? I'll dig it out and scan it. I don't doubt Dan's article, he did the research, Robert Holmes is credited on both the discs.
Stevemochan Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 Manships price difference between the two labels seems to be narrowing. Edition 3 - Southern Artists £700 , Bell £400 Edition 5 - Southern Artists £1250, Bell £1000. If you can get one, you're more likely to get a better condition one on Bell, I've got a minty one, and no I'm not selling ATB Steve [/quote Thinking of selling mine
Ady Croasdell Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 I know three Hy-Tones tracks only, "You don't even know my name", "bigger and better" and "good news". It's still hard for me to believe they're the same group on all three songs. Musical style and vocals are sooo different. E.g. "YDEKMN" sounds poppy and blue-eyed whereas "good news" is pure Sam & Dave. What do you guys think? They were all by the same black group, Eddie Frierson, Freddie Waters and one other i can't think of at the moment, all Bob Holmes productions. They may have used different leads within the group.
Ady Croasdell Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 Finally got to play the flip and it's ultra MOR but the same session and style as an unreleased one we have by them. Though it sounds a hundred miles away from it it's definitely the same group as Good News
Tony Turner Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 Are we going to see it included on the next instalment of Northern Soul's Classiest Rarities Ady?
Ady Croasdell Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 Are we going to see it included on the next instalment of Northern Soul's Classiest Rarities Ady? 'Appen!
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