Swifty Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Dave/Ian , yes was at the Gables I was was with Rob that night Cheers Swifty
Dave Raistrick Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Yep but I think he may have bought his copy off Rick Scott in Lincolnshire? We all got it pretty sharpish - instant classic....... Ian D Ian, l think it was Rick Todd from Grimsby.
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 l always thought that it was Searling.... Colin all the way
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Dave/Ian , yes was at the Gables I was was with Rob that night Cheers Swifty Linda Jones(Ian Levine) More importantly who discovered these....... Esperanto- Grand Piano Company/ Theme from the Fantastic Plastic Machine- Harry Betts/ Stop- Bobby Diamond/ Keeps on Burning- Burning Bush/ Name It You Got It- Mickey Moonshine/ Nine Times Out of Ten- Muriel Day Seeing as Ian D exposed me as 'The Flasher' please own up if you discovered the above!
Ady Croasdell Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Put me down for Burning Bush, great record and what a symbolic title.
Billywhizz Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 i hope im not going off track here, but did russ the founder of the casino, any discoveries come to mind. Billy
Guest Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 " Breakway " ( c/u as " The Black Ship To Hell " ) - supplied to Colin by Dave Godin . Malc Burton
Guest steve siz sale Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 dont know if anyone can clear up a mystery on uk cbs demo , chapter five you cant mean it, my mate found a pristine demo in a junk shop for 10p,sold it at wigan(totally unknown) for about a quid, then a few weeks later lo and behold guess what was played at wigan and well recieved,never really got my head round that one,who claimed they discovered that and did whoever buy it off my mate back in the day dave withers ,rod shard and dave mcaddon discovered possibly the biggest haul of uk demos ever in a recording studio very close to granada tv which was used for overstock i tumbled it on the 2nd day and still pulled a haul out of it richard searling had been in the building and never knew the haul was there the real winner was radio city dj billy butler who took 5 minutes and bought the lot (the real winner david bowie demos ect) richard walked away with one or 2 gems including chapter five and started hammering it in frustration i think but that made it big but he knew of it before posted by steve siz sale (by the way i discovered joey heatherton "when you call me baby" in a junk shop in brussels on black french brunswick and sue lynne dont pity me in the underground market at derek ords stall !!)
Guest Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Put me down for Burning Bush, great record and what a symbolic title. I am a fan of the record , but to those who dislike it , your statement might be viewed by some as an invite Malc Burton
Ian Dewhirst Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 From Kev..... More importantly who discovered these....... Esperanto- Grand Piano Company/ Theme from the Fantastic Plastic Machine- Harry Betts/ Stop- Bobby Diamond/ Keeps on Burning- Burning Bush/ Name It You Got It- Mickey Moonshine/ Nine Times Out of Ten- Muriel Day Seeing as Ian D exposed me as 'The Flasher' please own up if you discovered the above! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nope not guilty Kev, but that doesn't mean I didn't come up with some clunkers myself. "Danse A La Music" - The French Fries springs to mind.... Ian D
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 back in the day dave withers ,rod shard and dave mcaddon discovered possibly the biggest haul of uk demos ever in a recording studio very close to granada tv which was used for overstock i tumbled it on the 2nd day and still pulled a haul out of it richard searling had been in the building and never knew the haul was there the real winner was radio city dj billy butler who took 5 minutes and bought the lot (the real winner david bowie demos ect) richard walked away with one or 2 gems including chapter five and started hammering it in frustration i think but that made it big but he knew of it before posted by steve siz sale (by the way i discovered joey heatherton "when you call me baby" in a junk shop in brussels on black french brunswick and sue lynne dont pity me in the underground market at derek ords stall !!) Steve.....amazingly Joey's brother is one of my closest friends. She lives in Beverly Hills(as you do) and was married to Lance Rentzel(remember his Columbia 45?) I remember hearing the Instrumental to it from writer Johnny Madara in the late 70's. None of which takes anything away from the discoverer of Johanna Heatherton's classic. Arise Sir Siz!
Guest steve siz sale Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Steve.....amazingly Joey's brother is one of my closest friends. She lives in Beverly Hills(as you do) and was married to Lance Rentzel(remember his Columbia 45?) I remember hearing the Instrumental to it from writer Johnny Madara in the late 70's. None of which takes anything away from the discoverer of Johanna Heatherton's classic. Arise Sir Siz!
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) From Kev..... More importantly who discovered these....... Esperanto- Grand Piano Company/ Theme from the Fantastic Plastic Machine- Harry Betts/ Stop- Bobby Diamond/ Keeps on Burning- Burning Bush/ Name It You Got It- Mickey Moonshine/ Nine Times Out of Ten- Muriel Day Seeing as Ian D exposed me as 'The Flasher' please own up if you discovered the above! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nope not guilty Kev, but that doesn't mean I didn't come up with some clunkers myself. "Danse A La Music" - The French Fries springs to mind.... A true horror indeed......now who discovered The Ellusions(I cleaned out Lamon in 1981 of any copies they had, foolishly selling them for £8 each-way too honest! Or how about...Bobby Goldsboro-Too Many People, Kiki Dee-On A Magic Carpet Ride and Lord Thunder? Edited December 9, 2009 by The Golden 101
Guest steve siz sale Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I live near the trafford centre in manchester beverly hills !(i should co co) and occasionally dip my toe in the northern waters also pulled a few lesser known gems out back in the day (alan reuss zorba) thanks for the reply i will look forward to my nighthood SIZ
Ady Croasdell Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Kiki Dee was me to Clarkie. Terrific Randazzo Weinstein song in the only known recorded version. I'm not sure whether I did Too Many People too, Ian Clarke might remember.
Eddie Hubbard Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I thought Rod bought it off Searling ? ps. Who found the Moments on Hogg the vinyl copies that is !! ? Rob Moss found the first Moments on Hogg , still got the letter from him saying" guess what I've found It's not The Fabulous Impacts "...Rob also discovered the first Kell Osbourne " Quicksand " , taped 3/4 of it on the end of a tape " what do you think of this - think it would go ? " .Remember taking the tape to Stafford and playing it to Butch and Dave Thorley , think Dave bought it in the end ? Think Rob had one of the first Wayne Anthony's " Blow me a kiss " [ Waylana ] Sold it to Guy who played the flip " Go Go Wedding " instead ...Thought of covering up the top side as Carolyn Crawford as Wayne sounded a little female with his young vocals ...Best,Eddie
Chalky Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Johnny on the spot.....? Steve Smith I thought it was Martin Koppell/Tim Brown?
Simon M Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) I thought it was Martin Koppell/Tim Brown? I was thinking that . I remember Sam having it from Tim ? Edited December 9, 2009 by Simon M
Simon M Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Rob Moss found the first Moments on Hogg , still got the letter from him saying" guess what I've found It's not The Fabulous Impacts "...Rob also discovered the first Kell Osbourne " Quicksand " , taped 3/4 of it on the end of a tape " what do you think of this - think it would go ? " .Remember taking the tape to Stafford and playing it to Butch and Dave Thorley , think Dave bought it in the end ? Think Rob had one of the first Wayne Anthony's " Blow me a kiss " [ Waylana ] Sold it to Guy who played the flip " Go Go Wedding " instead ...Thought of covering up the top side as Carolyn Crawford as Wayne sounded a little female with his young vocals ...Best,Eddie Thanks , great stuff
Dave Raistrick Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Always wondered who discovered: Servicemen Salvadors ? Have an idea that Soul Sam & Keith Minshull discovered the 'Salvadors' on Bradford Market/Bostocks.
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Here's one from me.....Simon Soussan shouting to me through the toilet window at Ray Avery's in Glendale,California....Baby boy..look for WILLEEEE HUTCH 'the duck' on Dun-hill....do you know what I am saying baby boy! I had no idea....but he gave me his copy anyway! A first play at Wigan was ceremonously blown away by the Javells(thanks Dave Mac) I could have sworn my Vernon Greene on Minit and Obrey Wilson on Columbia would have scored points, only losing losing out to my DJ colleague Richard Searling playing Gary Lewis on a Liberty Demo! Edited December 9, 2009 by The Golden 101
Swifty Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 The only thing I discovered was when the ex missus was having an affair !!! whoops ! wrong site
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Rob Moss found the first Moments on Hogg , still got the letter from him saying" guess what I've found It's not The Fabulous Impacts "...Rob also discovered the first Kell Osbourne " Quicksand " , taped 3/4 of it on the end of a tape " what do you think of this - think it would go ? " .Remember taking the tape to Stafford and playing it to Butch and Dave Thorley , think Dave bought it in the end ? Think Rob had one of the first Wayne Anthony's " Blow me a kiss " [ Waylana ] Sold it to Guy who played the flip " Go Go Wedding " instead ...Thought of covering up the top side as Carolyn Crawford as Wayne sounded a little female with his young vocals ...Best,Eddie Didn't Kent release it as 'the fabulous impacts'?
Guest Soultown andy Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 back in the day dave withers ,rod shard and dave mcaddon discovered possibly the biggest haul of uk demos ever in a recording studio very close to granada tv which was used for overstock i tumbled it on the 2nd day and still pulled a haul out of it richard searling had been in the building and never knew the haul was there the real winner was radio city dj billy butler who took 5 minutes and bought the lot (the real winner david bowie demos ect) richard walked away with one or 2 gems including chapter five and started hammering it in frustration i think but that made it big but he knew of it before posted by steve siz sale (by the way i discovered joey heatherton "when you call me baby" in a junk shop in brussels on black french brunswick and sue lynne dont pity me in the underground market at derek ords stall !!) Were,ve you bin hidein,was goin to mention the sue lynne but thought id spare you the embarresment m8
Swifty Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Have an idea that Soul Sam & Keith Minshull discovered the 'Salvadors' on Bradford Market/Bostocks. Seem to remember Rob Thomas getting a Salvadors of a bloke at Ilkeston one night - John Black ??? I,m sure it had a chip out of it , Happy days eh! Swifty
Guest chorleybloke Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 asked a question on the recent jd bryant thread about who discovered it and i think it was tedsoul who replied and said it was kev roberts, which then got me wondering who discovered records like larry clinton,don gardner and and other big tunes like these If you talk to Dave Rivers, he'll tell you that The Coasters "Crazy Baby" was his discovery....plus plenty more. A well respected member of the NS brotherhood for decades so its gotta be kosher Cheers Pete
Eddie Hubbard Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Who discovered Frankie Beverly " Because of my heart " ? I remember one Wigan oldies night ,Mick Smith lent Searling his cracked Rouser copy to play , I was stood deck watching at the time .Sure Mick mentioned that it had been played at The Torch ? I got a copy on Fairmount for £25 in the early 80's off Dave Raistrick , how many did you have Dave ? Questions Questions LOL.....Best,Eddie
Eddie Hubbard Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Didn't Kent release it as 'the fabulous impacts'? Yes Kev , anniversary ' 45 .....
Samplat Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 If you talk to Dave Rivers, he'll tell you that The Coasters "Crazy Baby" was his discovery....plus plenty more. A well respected member of the NS brotherhood for decades so its gotta be kosher Cheers Pete Dave covered it up as "Hearts wide open" i think,
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) If you talk to Dave Rivers, he'll tell you that The Coasters "Crazy Baby" was his discovery....plus plenty more. A well respected member of the NS brotherhood for decades so its gotta be kosher[/im Covered as Freddie Jones. More Ian Levine discoveries; Esther Philips- Catch Me Im Falling, Melvin Carter- Midnight Brew, Mel Britt, LittleRichie. Russ - Mike Post Coalition Richard; Volcanos- Laws of Love Pep- The Velours, Little Joe Roman, Danny Monday Me: 4 Seasons-I'm Gonna Change, Yvonne Daniels, Lou Roberts, Eddie Regan via Derek Allen. Soul Sam: Rubin, Jimmy Mack. Edited December 9, 2009 by The Golden 101
Eddie Hubbard Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Why not by The Moments the original group? I think because the first copy to be played was an untitled acetate ? Ady C . can probably confirm ? Rob found the first actual released copy .Best,Eddie
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 How would Kent be able to release it if they did not know who it's by? Is this a Hey Little Way Out Girl on Grapevine kind of a release?
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) James Barnett/ Soul Bros Six- Thank You Baby/ Superiors Tony Jebb/Ian Levine Edited December 9, 2009 by The Golden 101
Harry Crosby Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Wasn`t BOBBY DIAMOND one of ALAN RHODES`S
Dave Raistrick Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Who discovered Frankie Beverly " Because of my heart " ? I remember one Wigan oldies night ,Mick Smith lent Searling his cracked Rouser copy to play , I was stood deck watching at the time .Sure Mick mentioned that it had been played at The Torch ? I got a copy on Fairmount for £25 in the early 80's off Dave Raistrick , how many did you have Dave ? Questions Questions LOL.....Best,Eddie Eddie, more than 1 but less than 25
Pete S Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 I like nearly all of those mentioned above and French Fries sounded fantastic at the Casino with all those feet stomping away to it
Pete S Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Why not by The Moments the original group? Nobody knew who it really was at that time.
Otis Smith Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Rick Cooper left global to work at Robinsons in Manchester, and also sold records at the ritz. Steve'siz' when did sue lynne come out of underground market, as pete wid, had it at wigan, covered up! And the late frank jackson, had arin demain, early seventies, also kindly informed, the late nev wherry, at wigan, his tony middleton, was harry starr.
Ady Croasdell Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Didn't Kent release it as 'the fabulous impacts'? Yes as one side of one of the early anniversary freebies as I discovered it in NYC on an original acetate and it had no name or writers or anything and we thought it was unissued and would never turn up. It must have taken 8 years before it did turn up.
Patto Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Question from me for IAN DEWHIRST.One of my fave late casino spins was WILBUR WALTON--24 HOURS OF LONELINESS.I once heard that IAN discovered this in a Sheffield junk shop circa 1978, is this true?
Ady Croasdell Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 If you talk to Dave Rivers, he'll tell you that The Coasters "Crazy Baby" was his discovery....plus plenty more. A well respected member of the NS brotherhood for decades so its gotta be kosher Cheers Pete Dave will know but again I thought it came out of this incredible trunk load of 45s Dave Burton got off Cas from Warners in 1971. i also thought the original Cooperettes came from there but perhaps it was the second or third.
Ady Croasdell Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Why not by The Moments the original group? Sorry Kev, I'd forgotten you weren't around in those days were you.
Ted Massey Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Hi guys n gals. Well I wouldn't say discovered but maybe given a shove on their way, but I remember asking Keb to take a listen to a track on a tape I'd received from Des Parker, I believe, on the way to stafford one night. Just the most awe-inspiring male harmony, blew me away...Keb covered it as Eddie Banks "Nothings To Good For My Baby" and it became shit hot and f88kin' massive! Another CTF was playing Chesham Elgiva Hall and dropping Soul Communicators as a new spin to rapturous applause, I was stoked, in the big hall it sounded unbelievable and was just another £5 Raistrick goodie, thanks Dave. Miles Warrington Think the Springers (eddie banksc/u) Keb bought from Clarkie for £100 already covered up
Dave Raistrick Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 From Kev..... More importantly who discovered these....... Esperanto- Grand Piano Company/ Theme from the Fantastic Plastic Machine- Harry Betts/ Stop- Bobby Diamond/ Keeps on Burning- Burning Bush/ Name It You Got It- Mickey Moonshine/ Nine Times Out of Ten- Muriel Day Seeing as Ian D exposed me as 'The Flasher' please own up if you discovered the above! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nope not guilty Kev, but that doesn't mean I didn't come up with some clunkers myself. "Danse A La Music" - The French Fries springs to mind.... Ian D MURIEL DAY I Think the first time l heard this was at an Alldayer Johnny Manship ran at Kirby Bellars, Leics - 'The Painted Lady Club' if l remember, Guy Hennigan and a bunch of others there - Was Nev Wherry the first to play it???
Sheldonsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Author Posted December 9, 2009 yvonne vernee just like you did me,don varner tear stained face,rubin you been away 3 of my all time favs. anybody know who found em first
Guest Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 MURIEL DAY I Think the first time l heard this was at an Alldayer Johnny Manship ran at Kirby Bellars, Leics - 'The Painted Lady Club' if l remember, Guy Hennigan and a bunch of others there - Was Nev Wherry the first to play it??? Correct Dave - NW was indeed the first to play " NTOOT " . Malc Burton
Eddie Hubbard Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Eddie, more than 1 but less than 25 Bloody hell, 24 then Dave ? LOL.....stone mint as well ... Best,Eddie
Gilly Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 Hi Murial Day was descovered by Philip (Pip) Smith from Shrewsbury,picked it up when in Ireland. I remember i used to tell him he should'nt brag about that too much regards Gilly and Nicola
Goldsoul Posted December 9, 2009 Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Sorry Kev, I'd forgotten you weren't around in those days were you. I was busy selling all my discoveries to Butch and others, while I tried my hand producing Dance records Tis true, I got lost in the 80's. Edited December 9, 2009 by The Golden 101
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