Walter Wilson

[Speedlimit]

yet another big ticket sound on ebay Walter Wilson love keeps me crying originally played by mr darge then butch who also as the inst this is the 4th know copy what you recken this will go for awesome uptempo soul of the highest order

[De-to]

yet another big ticket sound on ebay Walter Wilson love keeps me crying originally played by mr darge then butch who also as the inst this is the 4th know copy what you recken this will go for awesome uptempo soul of the highest order

yep,heres the link and the seller has some other nice records for sale,!!!

https://cgi.ebay.com/Walter-Wilson-MEGA-RARE-Northern-Soul-45-on-Wand_W0QQitemZ120497837564QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item1c0e3b15fc

Edited November 29, 2009 by de-to

[Ady Croasdell]

i don't like to brag:lol: but first played by me off a master tape.

[Steve G]

i don't like to brag:lol: but first played by me off a master tape.

Think that's right Ady hence it's appearance on CD with the wrong artist title , then Mick Smith had a cracked copy which he played.....then I got one, and Sam won one in a John Manship auction. It's the rarest Wand that I know of and has a fabulous B side as well, some would say better than "Crying". We think it got pulled post pressing because of a dust up between producer and label.

Speedlimit not sure Keb has played it, and you are right Butch has the instrumental.

Steve

Edited November 30, 2009 by Steve G

[Ady Croasdell]

And still not bragging, I discovered that first one in Billy Jackson's flat, years after I'd put it out on CD. The tape box had Walter Johnson and the label had Walter Wilson but neither are correct, it's actually Tommy Keith.

The flip is superb and is also out on CDKEND 149, the dancer is on 104

[Manfromsoul45s]

I got one off the bay a while back now..not sure that many people saw it..lucky for me..Fantastic record, both sides..

[Gene-r]

I would imagine this to be much rarer than The Ivories on Wand, and would swipe a guess at the finishing price being around $1,600.

[Tony Smith]

I would imagine this to be much rarer than The Ivories on Wand, and would swipe a guess at the finishing price being around $1,600.

$4,979.99

With a day to go

[Md Records]

Wasn't Walter Wilson one of the Delites (Cuppy) ?

Des Parker

[Raresoul45s]

Wasn't Walter Wilson one of the Delites (Cuppy) ?

Des Parker

Yes Des he was, and thats him performing Lover which he also wrote.

Value got to be around £3500+ missing from many of the finest collections a very very rare record.

Cheers Darren

www.raresoul45s.co.uk

[Raresoul45s]

I would imagine this to be much rarer than The Ivories on Wand, and would swipe a guess at the finishing price being around $1,600.

You wouldn't get a Ivorys on Wand for that, another very rare Wand release

Cheers Darren

www.raresoul45s.co.uk

[Guest Perception]

You wouldn't get a Ivorys on Wand for that, another very rare Wand release

Cheers Darren

www.raresoul45s.co.uk

Why are records so rare on these big labels, they must have pressed up hundreds of copies! Still to be found?!

[Ady Croasdell]

Wasn't Walter Wilson one of the Delites (Cuppy) ?

Des Parker

Though the producer Billy Jackson says it was Tommy Keith.

[Steve G]

Why are records so rare on these big labels, they must have pressed up hundreds of copies! Still to be found?!

Because sometimes they pressed em up, then didn't put them out and ended up throwing the copies out....it happened quite a bit in the strange world of 60s record biz.

Ady I was keeping quiet about it being Tommy Keith But yes it is he.

[Pete S]

Because sometimes they pressed em up, then didn't put them out and ended up throwing the copies out....it happened quite a bit in the strange world of 60s record biz.

Ady I was keeping quiet about it being Tommy Keith But yes it is he.

Should we know who Tommy Keith is?

[Raresoul45s]

What did it fetch in the end ??

Cheers Darren

www.raresoul45s.co.uk

[Guest Dave Turner]

What did it fetch in the end ??

Cheers Darren

www.raresoul45s.co.uk

6,149 USD (approx £3,718 )

Anyone know why so rare on a quite major label when there should have been at least a few thousand pressed.?

Withdrawn, warehouse fire/flood ?????????????????

Every record has a story somewhere.

[Anoraks Corner]

Should we know who Tommy Keith is?

Same guy who recorded on Vibration?

[Steve Plumb]

Same guy who recorded on Vibration?

Lead singer with the Moments.....................

[Steve G]

Tommy Keith was a seminal figure on the Jersey soul scene........That's New Jersey Pete

[Pete S]

Tommy Keith was a seminal figure on the Jersey soul scene........That's New Jersey Pete

So seminal that I never heard of him in my life

[Garethx]

So seminal that I never heard of him in my life

He wrote and produced "Nine Times" Pete, among many other of the Moments greatest, er, moments.

Don't think he was ever actually in any incarnation of the group itself, but their history is long and quite tangled. Time has shown that the business practices of Joe and Sylvia Robinson at All Platinum were sometimes quite creative (to say the least), so I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that he may have actually sung on some of the Moments tracks.

I've never heard any of Tommy Keith's Vibration material, but if it is him on the Wand 45 he had a more than competent voice. I really love "Not Now But Later", the midtempo side on Wand and was gobsmacked when told how rare it actually is.

On a side note I'd be really grateful if someone could post the long-deleted Moments CD-only track "Sleep Won't Come" in refosoul. I'm sure it's just relative unfamiliarity which has held this track back from being a total monster on the allnighter scene. As far as feel-good 70s dancers with instant hooks go it's of the same calibre as classics such as "Nine Times": a magnificent record basically.

Edited December 8, 2009 by garethx

[Steve Plumb]

He wrote and produced "Nine Times" Pete, among many other of the Moments greatest, er, moments.

Don't think he was ever actually in any incarnation of the group itself, but their history is long and quite tangled. Time has shown that the business practices of Joe and Sylvia Robinson at All Platinum were sometimes quite creative (to say the least), so I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that he may have actually sung on some of the Moments tracks.

I've never heard any of Tommy Keith's Vibration material, but if it is him on the Wand 45 he had a more than competent voice. I really love "Not Now But Later", the midtempo side on Wand and was gobsmacked when told how rare it actually is.

On a side note I'd be really grateful if someone could post the long-deleted Moments CD-only track "Sleep Won't Come" in refosoul. I'm sure it's just relative unfamiliarity which has held this track back from being a total monster on the allnighter scene. As far as feel-good 70s dancers with instant hooks go it's of the same calibre as classics such as "Nine Times": a magnificent record basically.

His 'Loving you comes easy' on Vibration is a fabulous early 70's crossover dancer - well recommended

'I agree 100% on 'Sleep won't come' Totally brilliant unreleased 70's dancer as good as 'nine times/i got the need/just having your love etc' a potentially monsterous record!

Cheers

Steve

[Pete S]

He wrote and produced "Nine Times" Pete, among many other of the Moments greatest, er, moments.

Oh, THAT Tommy Keith.

[Garethx]

To be honest Pete I had to check a copy of Nine Times. I'm generally fairly interested in the credits on records but even I had never really given much thought to who was behind the song.