How Long Will N.soul Last

[ulyssees]

Hello all.

Simple question, How long until the last ever soul night?

Over to you.....

Ulyssees

[Ian Parker]

as long as Keith minshull and Soul Sam are around . looking at the scene at present, i would say a few more years yet!

[Guest]

Hello all.

Simple question, How long until the last ever soul night?

Over to you.....

Ulyssees

When hell freezes over ......

Malc Burton

[Guest kid mohair]

20 years, thats when most of the people on the scene will be retired, which i think then will be left to the young crowd who now will be around the age of 40 to take it back underground.... well thats what i think....

Edited November 28, 2009 by kid mohair

[Dancinshoes]

How long is a piece of string? I hope to be still dancin with the aid of a zimmer as do many others. I think there needs to be sheltered accommodation built ready for the soulies invasion............ Bridlington maybe?

[Guest kid mohair]

How long is a piece of string? I hope to be still dancin with the aid of a zimmer as do many others. I think there needs to be sheltered accommodation built ready for the soulies invasion............ Bridlington maybe?

Dont.....the thought of it, oww i can still do a back drop now and im 80,just help me out of me chair and ill show ya.

[Guest mooma]

we will all be dead long before Northern ends so wont be around long enuff to give ya the correct answer lol

sue bushby

[Guest LizandRoger]

As long as there is still someone to

Listen to it

enjoy it

feel it

and maybe even still move to it

then northern soul will live on.................

and the last one to turn up there toes better be sure to bring the vinyl with them as there will no doubt be a very large and eager reception waiting for them.................................

[Guest kid mohair]

so whens the best time to sell all your records before they become, well lets say not worthless but more like less in demand? cus in 20 years it will get to this,i think now its at its peak,with the amount of dos and relative stuff going on.....

[Guest POTTERIESPECK]

To keep the scene on-going it got to get back to it's basic's and try to encourage & embrace the younger ones that are new to it. Is is not the togethernes,friendlieness & sharing our different levels of knowledge of the music we all embrace anymore. How many people have we all made friends with by brushing past each other and then spent hours getting to know them.Meeting people at Motorway,Bus & Railway stations and shooting the breeze with them, because we all could tell by just looking at each other that we were all part of a family that most would welcome with open arms, no matter what colour, creed or what part of the country you where from. To me it was like a tight knit community where we all looked out for each other with certain morales + standards to adhere to, yes there were some blacksheep [ is that politically correct ] amongst us and i'm sure we all knew a few, i suppose most of us would say they were lovable rougues, but to me it was a family that was spread the breadth and width of the country who where united in our love of the music.In my own mind i think part of the demise was caused by a Goverment who let all our manufacturing jobs go to the floor,industries like mining,mills,steel works to name a few ,these were the backbone of communties with local workermans clubs and estate pubs where lots of us would socialise with people of our own kind, all these have gone by the wayside and it seems it has lead to a selfish society where a attitude of f*k you jack i'm allright and b*llocks to the rest. Gone are the days where you new everybody in your street, i bet there's lot's now who don't even know there next door neighbour. a parallel to which you could say about the scene where most of us knew lots and lots of people who would unite together in times of need. The Scene in it's unity & togetherness as took a bit of a demise just like a our society.Me personally, i hold all these strong morales & values of the scene and society which i think go side by side but it seems a lot don't, and are'nt prepared to make the the sacrificies to make, wether the scene or country a better place to be part of. That's just my theory i suppose others have their own, i'm not spoiling for a argument. My two biggest gripes are about how we are all letting the MP'S keep putting their pensions up besides them all being indexed linked [ when ours are getting to the stage ware they are'nt worth a s*it ] and also the increase of energy prices after shutting all the Oilfields and British Coalfields [ and no i ain't a ex-miner ]The N U M warned the british public what would happen when all the coalfields and oil refineries were closed or sold off, that we would in time be paying a lot more for our energy resources and oh how that has come back to haunt us all. All in all it's up to us all to make sacraficies to make the scene and in my eyes the country a better place to be amongst. Thanks - that was a letter on behalf of the Monster Raving Loony Party.

Edited December 11, 2009 by POTTERIESPECK

[Guest steve64]

My daughter is 6 years old & she loves dancing around the front room to northern,for her 18th she wants to go to a 100 club niter, so I think we have plenty of time left.

[Rob Wigley]

How long is a piece of string? I hope to be still dancin with the aid of a zimmer as do many others. I think there needs to be sheltered accommodation built ready for the soulies invasion............ Bridlington maybe?

we have the Spa booked for another 9 years, hope to have my new knees by then Morts already bought a retirement home there ! Whats next customized disability scooters?

Rob

[TOAD]

just waiting on my bus pass ! i hear theres cheap oap trainfares

"YOUNG TOAD"

[Zed1]

.................'till everyone's chin wears out.

[Guest proudlove]

.................'till everyone's chin wears out.

Kin good post mate--------------but I bet there will be a lot that don't know what you mean...............................

[Guest bazabod_downunder]

Will we get pensioner entry rates?.....there's a few more years left I think, but 20+ is being a tad bit optimistic.

KTF

Baz

just waiting on my bus pass ! i hear theres cheap oap trainfares

"YOUNG TOAD"

[Guest aintgotit]

Hello all.

Simple question, How long until the last ever soul night?

Over to you.....

Ulyssees

till the dj has no more records to play? i dont know quite why i feel the way i do about this question, whats your take on it ulyssees?i mean, music evolves dpending on the ingenuity of artists songwriters and arrangers. doesn,t it. punters like to dabble with different genre,s and some are inspired to share their love of music with others, for others its a desire to own and collect .As long as you want to socialise with like minded individuals and not live in some virtual world with your knob stuck in a laptop there,ll be a venue somewhere which will not just cater for your needs but exceed (or decimate if thats more appropriate ) your expectations. for a soul night ,i interpret that you mean a night of soul ful music not an exclusively sixties oriented "TOP 500" come get these memories ,and this mug and coasters, and those rather voluminous clothes , and that bumper sticker suggesting you dont own a bed, if you want to listen to music you find soul in most places you might care to look.because your own tastes will draw you there.If oldies are the only real definition of authentic soul music, maybe then for some people, the last soul night ,may already have passed.i like to think with me knob and talk out me arse though,so its over to you!

[Guest Brian Ellis]

To keep the scene on-going it got to get back to it's basic's and try to encourage & embrace the younger ones that are new to it. Is is not the togethernes,friendlieness & sharing our different levels of knowledge of the music we all embrace anymore. How many people have we all made friends with by brushing past each other and then spent hours getting to know them.Meeting people at Motorway,Bus & Railway stations and shooting the breeze with them, because we all could tell by just looking at each other that we were all part of a family that most would welcome with open arms, no matter what colour, creed or what part of the country you where from. To me it was like a tight knit community where we all looked out for each other with certain morales + standards to adhere to, yes there were some blacksheep [ is that politically correct ] amongst us and i'm sure we all knew a few, i suppose most of us would say they were lovable rougues, but to me it was a family that was spread the breadth and width of the country who where united in our love of the music.In my own mind i think part of the demise was caused by a Goverment who let all our manufacturing jobs go to the floor,industries like mining,mills,steel works to name a few ,these were the backbone of communties with local workermans clubs and estate pubs where lots of us would socialise with people of our own kind, all these have gone by the wayside and it seems it has lead to a selfish society where a attitude of f*k you jack i'm allright and b*llocks to the rest. Gone are the days where you new everybody in your street, i bet there's lot's now who don't even know there next door neighbour. a parallel to which you could say about the scene where most of us knew lots and lots of people who would unite together in times of need. The Scene in it's unity & togetherness as took a bit of a demise just like a our society.Me personally, i hold all these strong morales & values of the scene and society which i think go side by side but it seems a lot don't, and are'nt prepared to make the the sacrificies to make, wether the scene or country a better place to be part of. That's just my theory i suppose others have their own, i'm not spoiling for a argument. My two biggest gripes are about how we are all letting the MP'S keep putting their pensions up besides them all being indexed linked [ when ours are getting to the stage ware they are'nt worth a s*it ] and also the increase of energy prices after shutting all the Oilfields and British Coalfields [ and no i ain't a ex-miner ]The N U M warned the british public what would happen when all the coalfields and oil refineries were closed or sold off, that we would in time be paying a lot more for our energy resources and oh how that has come back to haunt us all. All in all it's up to us all to make sacraficies to make the scene and in my eyes the country a better place to be amongst. Thanks - that was a letter on behalf of the Monster Raving Loony Party.

Why the monster font and no paragraphs? - makes it unreadable.

Edited November 28, 2009 by Brian Ellis

[Guest GFAS03]

My daughter is 6 years old & she loves dancing around the front room to northern,for her 18th she wants to go to a 100 club niter, so I think we have plenty of time left.

I agree - I said to my 10 year old that I proudly told one of my mates that her favourite song is "Pushed out of the picture", and she crossly informed me that now it's 'Say something nice to me'. Ok, so they're both known tunes, but I have high hopes that she'll be buying my beers at the 100 club in a few years...

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

Well 20 years would suit a lot of you so your 40 and coming up to 60 and ones who are 50 coming up to 70. Maybe can go longer with some of you lot.

But i predict that at least in 20 years time, There could be less venues and the very few who are gonna be 40 or longer then ie me (well technically 49) in hope will still be out either djing or dancing to Northern soul. But sadly part of me feels it won't be the same cause there will be no one i know or very little and some of the new people might not care and to drag my friends along will be like how long is a piece of string

But i hope that in 20 years and longer until i am well into my 60's there is a scene and people who appricate good music and original vinyl (not to have it all done with IPods or whatever new format has emerged)

[dthedrug]

Hello all.

Simple question, How long until the last ever soul night?

Over to you.....

Ulyssees

I bet it will be just as it has always been at the end of my life, after that I wont be bothered about much "I Guess" till then i will continue to play Soul 45s on a daily basis when I want and what I want. Remember it is all about the Vinal TThats why its called Record collecting DAVE *MORE THAN SKIN DEEP)KIL.

[Guest]

Edited November 29, 2009 by ken

[Guest]

we have the Spa booked for another 9 years, hope to have my new knees by then Morts already bought a retirement home there ! Whats next customized disability scooters?

Rob

Another nine years ? sound good to me Robert lad .

God willing , that will see me age wise in line with a certain Beatles song , and will hopefully at that time I will be still sound in body and mind enabling me to be at T'Spa with you young folk , providing that you will have me ( oo - er matron ).

Malc Burton

[NUFCSOUL]

Got to say it - 'IT'LL NEVER BE OVER' - for me, you or anyone else that loves the music, in all it's shapes and forms.

Detroit, blue eyed, doo-wop, modern it is all interlinked. Youger lads who go to the match and drink with me are now well into the Northern Soul I've banged on about. I'm not bothered they are not yet! collectors or anoraks on matrix numbers but they firmly like the music - their age of mid twentyish would imply that if they stick with it then they've got a few more years left in them, rather than us 50+ lot.

It may seem mainstream where you live in your part of the country but elsewhere the mass British public haven't got a clue that it's the biggest underground scene going.

I was talking to a bloke who had a second hand stall earlier this month, (when I was down London) - got on about the Dansettes he had on show - he had the quiff, tight jeans etc - turns out him and his crew are bang into jive, rock'n'roll type nights and let's face it although you don't see teddy boys roamin about the streets there are still nights held 50 odd years after it's mainstream birth.

Thankfully our record collections may be destined for the scene of the future and in the hands of a whole new generation of enthusiasts who will keep the faith going.

Cheers

Tony Fiddes

[barney]

Got to say it - 'IT'LL NEVER BE OVER' - for me, you or anyone else that loves the music, in all it's shapes and forms.

Detroit, blue eyed, doo-wop, modern it is all interlinked. Youger lads who go to the match and drink with me are now well into the Northern Soul I've banged on about. I'm not bothered they are not yet! collectors or anoraks on matrix numbers but they firmly like the music - their age of mid twentyish would imply that if they stick with it then they've got a few more years left in them, rather than us 50+ lot.

It may seem mainstream where you live in your part of the country but elsewhere the mass British public haven't got a clue that it's the biggest underground scene going.

I was talking to a bloke who had a second hand stall earlier this month, (when I was down London) - got on about the Dansettes he had on show - he had the quiff, tight jeans etc - turns out him and his crew are bang into jive, rock'n'roll type nights and let's face it although you don't see teddy boys roamin about the streets there are still nights held 50 odd years after it's mainstream birth.

Thankfully our record collections may be destined for the scene of the future and in the hands of a whole new generation of enthusiasts who will keep the faith going.

Cheers

Tony Fiddes

great post tony and spot on

wil pm you

[John A]

I agree - I said to my 10 year old that I proudly told one of my mates that her favourite song is "Pushed out of the picture", and she crossly informed me that now it's 'Say something nice to me'. Ok, so they're both known tunes, but I have high hopes that she'll be buying my beers at the 100 club in a few years...

Don't bank on it..my daughter used to love a bit of "Mello souls" and others when she was around 6-10 years old.Shes 13 now,has her own gang of mates and laughs at the northern soul now..quite right too.

[barney]

quite few youngens into the scene round our way (teens and early 20s)and seeing more every month but if you want them to really get into the scene take them to places like the kingsway hall forrest town

100% northern soul , clothes ,music , friendly people and atmosphere , no diverging into other genres of music , its classic proper northern soul

[NEV]

Why the monster font and no paragraphs? - makes it unreadable.

Agree Brian ..that's why i never read it

[Guest GFAS03]

Don't bank on it..my daughter used to love a bit of "Mello souls" and others when she was around 6-10 years old.Shes 13 now,has her own gang of mates and laughs at the northern soul now..quite right too.

fair point - it's what happened with my lad.... but I can dream, can't I?

[Guest lizz]

TILL JOHNNY BEGGS HAIR FALLS OUT

[Zed1]

I don't think any of us need to be Werner Von Braun (The original 'Rocket scientist') to work out that for the music to continue after we're all tucked up in some home smelling of Germaline and urine, that it needs to be taken on by our 'Yoof' which means it needs to look a 'cool' scene to be involved in, ie an alternative to usual garbage that the MTV generation are subject too (exactly the same reasons that many of us got involved in the first place with the crap that we were fed on TOTP)

The emphasis needs to be placed on a scene of like minded people going out and having a fookin good time listening and dancing to great music thats a little different than the norm', and not a scene thats solely inhabited by a bunch of chin stroking adanoid suffererers who's only interest is matrix numbers, Manships auction finishing prices and what format of plastic the music comes on........

After all, weren't we all young once?.

[Julie Moore]

My kids used to love it when they were younger but took my 29 yr old to a do last night... sat playing with his fone all bloody nite said it was shite

then had to endure his bang bang music 40 odd miles home

[Guest GFAS03]

My kids used to love it when they were younger but took my 29 yr old to a do last night... sat playing with his fone all bloody nite said it was shite

then had to endure his bang bang music 40 odd miles home

lol - you bring them up to think for themselves and then they bloody go and think for themselves....

anyway, this thread is meant to be about the music, not a gripe about the younger generation, so I'll shut up now....

[Guest Brett F]

Probably about 17 days...............

[Guest]

My kids used to love it when they were younger   but took my 29 yr old to a do last night... sat playing with his fone all bloody nite   said it was shite

then had to endure his bang bang music 40 odd miles home

he looked like he was having a great time to me lolol

[Fuzzj]

you can only piss with the prick youve got.

[Philly]

"Until the rivers run dry and there's no moon in the sky,

until the sun rises in the west and the birds no longer need their nest"

Philly

[Julie Moore]

he looked like he was having a great time to me lolol

you dont read ppl well then do you ????????????????????

[good angel]

N/Soul, is it still going,bloody hell I will have to get my old baggy trousers out,white belt and vest.

Kev

Edited November 30, 2009 by good angel

[Chalky]

20 years, that's when most of the people on the scene will be retired, which i think then will be left to the young crowd who now will be around the age of 40 to take it back underground.... well that's what i think....

I can't see me travelling all over to venues in 10 years let alone 20. Knackered now with trying to fit home life, work and soul into one week. Don't think there are nowhere near enough young un's to carry on the scene, certainly not nationwide, maybe the odd local night or so. Kids in general aren't interested in vinyl, most weren't even born when cd's were introduced. They all live in a digital age and Northern Soul isn't in the digital world...maybe at home to a certain extent but not in the venues.

Edited November 29, 2009 by chalky

[wiganelli]

In 1974 if somebody would have told me that l would still be dancing to Northern Soul in 2009 l'd have laughed at them...'Don't know 'is the answer to your question...

good answer that 1974 at wigan thinking 35+years we would still be dancing !!!! im enjoying it more now than ever love every day and night of it the people the music THE LOT so come on you lot lets enjoy what we got and keep on dancing till we drop ELLI WIGAN

[Samson]

We should probably launch some records out into space to drift forever......if someone could send me a copy of every shrine record and maybe Frank Wilson too, I'll errrr send them up.

[Julie Moore]

Actually,mate l would love to send Frank Wilson into orbit!!

DITTO

[Guest MBarrett]

We are living in an increasingly "left brain" world - where people are literally being reprogrammed to rely on mechanisation, formulae and rules.

Soul music is "right brain" music - with its foundations in empathy and creativity.

It doesn't bode well for the future!

MB

[Speedlimit]

Hello all.

Simple question, How long until the last ever soul night?

Over to you.....

Ulyssees

The scene could be around for decades to come ,but only if the majority of venues i e oldies nights gave younger blood a chance . ie on the dance floor d.jing etc most seem to shun them and think theyer takin the p..s , we were all young once . also get rid of the baggy trouses and beer towels they dont know how daft he look to the younger generation

[Fuzzj]

although interesting diverse comments and synopsis, but come on every body it isnt up for debate because when we are pontificating about the longevity of the scene it then in its own right becomes in decline in our own hearts and minds.yesterday is history tomorrow is a mystery today is a gift enjoy even after youve took delivry of a mint stairlift.

[Guest suehey]

I took my 30year old daughter to the Torch reunion and she said it was one of the best nights out she's had and shes still banging on about it.

My kids used to love it when they were younger but took my 29 yr old to a do last night... sat playing with his fone all bloody nite said it was shite

then had to endure his bang bang music 40 odd miles home

[Guest suehey]

ditto

DITTO

[Naughty Boy]

maybe we should ask those few those very few who according to them invented it all

[Chalky]

The scene could be around for decades to come ,but only if the majority of venues i e oldies nights gave younger blood a chance . ie on the dance floor d.jing etc most seem to shun them and think theyer takin the p..s , we were all young once . also get rid of the baggy trouses and beer towels they dont know how daft he look to the younger generation

I've heard plenty of youngsters DJ but IMO they have very little to offer that isn't already on offer. In some cases all they jhave is there parents taste which isn't hardly forward thinking. They don't have the knowledge or experience that many older DJ's have to offer so why shun the older generation just to give youngsters a chance. As far as DJing is concerned knowledge and experience should come over youthful exuberance. In any other music field knowledge is god, rarely do you see younger inexperienced DJ's at the top or even on the radio.

Anyway who cares how long it will last, enjoy it while you can or for as long as you want. I will . Even if I stopped attending venues I will still have the same passion for the music that I always have had.