Guest chrisbirmingham Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Steve - do you still keep in contact with Alf Hockaday? I lost touch with him years ago and we were always good friends - I have a great photo of him at the Torch! I am going to try and post my photos so you can see them! Fantastic photo Brigid-----------thanks for posting Steve
Guest chrisbirmingham Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Brigid - it's Carol from Wolverhampton at the front left in this one (not me). I have written on the back of my copy as follows: The Torch Sat 25th Nov 1972 L-R back row Keith (Hyde), Maurice (Worcs), Kenny (Preston), Chris (Mkt. Harborough), ?Chris (Preston), Clarke, Desi (Preston) standing at back, infront L-R Carol (Codsall, nr W'ton) & Rick (Grangham). You say it is Neal (Grantham) next to Chris (Mkt. H) - didn't have his name listed! Are you in touch with anyone from these photos? Chris Thanks for those Lorraine, Steve was a lovely guy. Here is one I have posted before but for anyone who missed it, I took this photo at the Torch end of 71' maybe you can put names to the ones I have forgotten, made the mistake of not writing the names on the back at the time, only the date. Names I do remember, left to right - Keith Shepherd (Hyde), Kenny (Preston), Guy at the front left Ric Tic (Grantham), girls behind and beside him Birmingham, guy in stripey jumper - Neal (Grantham), Dessi (Preston), Christine (Wolverhampton) Brigid
Guest chrisbirmingham Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Swish from Leeds? I remember him! I have this photo too! It was taken in Stockport on Sunday, May 14th 1972. The girl in yellow sweater is Liz (Corby) and of course me Chris (Birmingham)! Swish this is your fault, discovering your treasure trove of memorabilia has us all looking back through our archives hoping there might be something we missed before! Anyway here is another piccie I've found. I think this was one Sunday morning after the Cats. Pictured is Brian Lear and Pete Tilsley (Stockport), Dave Preece and Christine (Wolverhampton) and again I just can't remember the name of the second girl but she was also from Wolvs. Not very often you saw Pete without his glove on! Brigid
Guest chrisbirmingham Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Hi Brigid - Desi passed away some years ago. Have been in touch with Kenny (Preston) - he is still in Preston and Chris still goes to the northern soul nights! Not sure about Trevor (remember him? ). Chris p.s. how do you upload photos onto here? I have more!! Glad the photos have evoked some memories ... any more out there? Does anyone know what ever happened to the Preston crew from that time? Thanks Steve, should have remembered that name!! Just had an e-mail to say Dave Preece is running Kareoke disco nights in a pub now, we should all turn up one night and suprise him Brigid
Guest proudlove Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Hi Chris,I see Alf once or twicw a year,either when we go down to Newquay,or when he comes up here,usually when there is a Wheel allnighter on.I have contact details. Can you pm me your facebook details so I can have a butchers at your photos please? Thanks, Steve.
Guest roundtree Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Hi Chris,I see Alf once or twicw a year,either when we go down to Newquay,or when he comes up here,usually when there is a Wheel allnighter on.I have contact details. Can you pm me your facebook details so I can have a butchers at your photos please? Thanks, Steve. Photos on members gallery
Guest proudlove Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Photos on members gallery Two words..............Fan-tastic. Steve.
Souljer6 Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Hello Christine and Brigid - Gill here...... I have a picture of the Torch with a few of us on it - including you Christine from Birmingham haha and a couple of me and you in a photobooth on the services. Christine if you are the Chris I am thinking of and you are on Facebook - request to be my friend Gill Hillel. Hello Brig love to you xxxxx
Souljer6 Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) From the Post by Brigid dated 29th November 2009, the ther girl on this photo with Chris from Birmingham in the yellow jumper is LIz Fernandez from Corby - my old home town. Gill Edited January 9, 2011 by souljer6
Petedillon Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) Heres a couple . One from 1972 with Dave Thompson and Mick Eastwood along with Dave Godin and Irena from Barnsley at my house. . Also one from 1979 with Matchy, Steve Goodison, Myself(Pete Dillon) and others. I think the blonde haired girl in the pic with Ann Froggatt is called Lesley from Wakefield way. She shared a house with Ann around the time of Cleethorpes.. Edited January 9, 2011 by oscar toney
Guest manusf3a Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Swish from Leeds? I remember him! I have this photo too! It was taken in Stockport on Sunday, May 14th 1972. The girl in yellow sweater is Liz (Corby) and of course me Chris (Birmingham)! Liz Middletonn from Corby she went out with Mick Caine(snotty)r.i.p for a while she went round with his cousina ginger haired girl michelle I think
Guest manusf3a Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Liz Middletonn from Corby she went out with Mick Caine(snotty)r.i.p for a while she went round with his cousina ginger haired girl michelle I think muddled mind wrong Liz ,middletons the cambridge one liz from corbys liz caine and her mate was gill stapleton
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Brigid, Tommy from Grantham was Tommy Moore. I'm sure I'd heard somewhere that he's passed on. Will try and find out more. I'd say there were around half a dozen or so Grantham regulars around that time. Most into the music, scene and gear and a few just into the gear. Apart from Rick Clarke and Tommy Moore there was --- Big Gez, Little Gez, Mick Stevens, Dave Owen, Johnny Adams and girlfriend Sherry (from Notts worked in HMV) Bri Mitchell -------- memories shite nowadays as I'm sure there were at least a couple of others. Mick Stevens and Johnny Adams are long gone. ..I was about to ask..does anyone remember Mick Stevens?..he was working in Skegness and was a regular in the Maple room where we played soul/motown on Sat nites.I remember his fateful trip to the Torch when he was killed in car on route.Ross (Nottingham) survived as did pixie Mick tho sadly never the same.We had an impromtu whip round for the funeral..i was only 16 or so..tragic..anyone have a photo of Mick..? He used to come in our clothing shop and buy his shoes..
Guest Dave Turner Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) ..I was about to ask..does anyone remember Mick Stevens?..he was working in Skegness and was a regular in the Maple room where we played soul/motown on Sat nites.I remember his fateful trip to the Torch when he was killed in car on route.Ross (Nottingham) survived as did pixie Mick tho sadly never the same.We had an impromtu whip round for the funeral..i was only 16 or so..tragic..anyone have a photo of Mick..? He used to come in our clothing shop and buy his shoes.. Elvis, remember Mick Stevens quite well mate. Mick was 2 or 3 years older than me and Mick being the trend setter I occassionally accompanied him over to Leicester (Irishes) to stock up on Shermans, Sta-Prests, etc etc. I missed the Torch by a few months, me and a couple of mates were set to go when it shut. Anyway my first "event" was Top Rank Hanley. Late one Friday night was outside the pub when Mick asked us bump Ross' motor followed by "D'ya wanna go Va-Vas". Needless to say we piled in, Andy capes, Steve Gutteridge and I. Anyway, great night and came back to Grantham. Ross & Mick dropped us off. That following week my mum & dad were gonna be on holiday at Ingoldmells near Skeg and I was going to go over mid-week. Mick said to me "Come down the fairground I'll be on the Waltzers" I think it was the Waltzers he was working on but memory for small details is getting shite nowadays. That said, I went to the fairground midweek and asked for Mick. "He's dead mate, blah, blah, blah". I was stunned to find out that it was after Ross & Mick dropped us off that they had the smash, hit a bridge I think. Came home and went to his funeral. A bit later the law knocked on the door and started asking questions re gear. Then the 3 of us got a subpoena to attend court. Turned out in the end we didn't have to appear (phew). It deffo wasn't the Torch they were going to mate, as mentioned above Torch was closed by then. If I remember correctly they were on their way to Leeds. in my minds eye I can still see Mick in a number of situations. Great lad and one of the Torchites that had time for us who were a few years younger and starting out on the soul/nighter road. Coincidentally about 25 years later around 1998 I was in a charity shop when in the back room I saw a 50 record box. Opening it up I saw it was full of Northern and knew immediately it was Mick's box, bought the lot for a fiver. First thing I did getting the box back home was seeing if the gear was still in the bottom ... was it fook There must be some photos of him somewhere, anyone? Edited April 20, 2012 by Dave Turner
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Elvis, remember Mick Stevens quite well mate. Mick was 2 or 3 years older than me and Mick being the trend setter I occassionally accompanied him over to Leicester (Irishes) to stock up on Shermans, Sta-Prests, etc etc. I missed the Torch by a few months, me and a couple of mates were set to go when it shut. Anyway my first "event" was Top Rank Hanley. Late one Friday night was outside the pub when Mick asked us bump Ross' motor followed by "D'ya wanna go Va-Vas". Needless to say we piled in, Andy capes, Steve Gutteridge and I. Anyway, great night and came back to Grantham. Ross & Mick dropped us off. That following week my mum & dad were gonna be on holiday at Ingoldmells near Skeg and I was going to go over mid-week. Mick said to me "Come down the fairground I'll be on the Waltzers" I think it was the Waltzers he was working on but memory for small details is getting shite nowadays. That said, I went to the fairground midweek and asked for Mick. "He's dead mate, blah, blah, blah". I was stunned to find out that it was after Ross & Mick dropped us off that they had the smash, hit a bridge I think. Came home and went to his funeral. A bit later the law knocked on the door and started asking questions re gear. Then the 3 of us got a subpoena to attend court. Turned out in the end we didn't have to appear (phew). It deffo wasn't the Torch they were going to mate, as mentioned above Torch was closed by then. If I remember correctly they were on their way to Leeds. in my minds eye I can still see Mick in a number of situations. Great lad and one of the Torchites that had time for us who were a few years younger and starting out on the soul/nighter road. Coincidentally about 25 years later around 1998 I was in a charity shop when in the back room I saw a 50 record box. Opening it up I saw it was full of Northern and knew immediately it was Mick's box, bought the lot for a fiver. First thing I did getting the box back home was seeing if the gear was still in the bottom ... was it fook There must be some photos of him somewhere, anyone? yep..its making more sense..this must've been the summer of 73..because Ross was seeing Marilyn from Mansfield (both working in Skeg) at that time ..because i went out with her from early '74..so rightly Torch was closed.Leeds central maybe..we all knew Pixie mick well, but i never asked him about the crash! and i think Ross went from bad to worse..i also met another guy from Grantham who knew Mick (at Skegness weekender) called Dave i think..(gary Wade intro'd us) was that you or someone else?
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 yep..its making more sense..this must've been the summer of 73..because Ross was seeing Marilyn from Mansfield (both working in Skeg) at that time ..because i went out with her from early '74..so rightly Torch was closed.Leeds central maybe..we all knew Pixie mick well, but i never asked him about the crash! and i think Ross went from bad to worse..i also met another guy from Grantham who knew Mick (at Skegness weekender) called Dave i think..(gary Wade intro'd us) was that you or someone else? no its not you..another Dave?
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Elvis, remember Mick Stevens quite well mate. Mick was 2 or 3 years older than me and Mick being the trend setter I occassionally accompanied him over to Leicester (Irishes) to stock up on Shermans, Sta-Prests, etc etc. I missed the Torch by a few months, me and a couple of mates were set to go when it shut. Anyway my first "event" was Top Rank Hanley. Late one Friday night was outside the pub when Mick asked us bump Ross' motor followed by "D'ya wanna go Va-Vas". Needless to say we piled in, Andy capes, Steve Gutteridge and I. Anyway, great night and came back to Grantham. Ross & Mick dropped us off. That following week my mum & dad were gonna be on holiday at Ingoldmells near Skeg and I was going to go over mid-week. Mick said to me "Come down the fairground I'll be on the Waltzers" I think it was the Waltzers he was working on but memory for small details is getting shite nowadays. That said, I went to the fairground midweek and asked for Mick. "He's dead mate, blah, blah, blah". I was stunned to find out that it was after Ross & Mick dropped us off that they had the smash, hit a bridge I think. Came home and went to his funeral. A bit later the law knocked on the door and started asking questions re gear. Then the 3 of us got a subpoena to attend court. Turned out in the end we didn't have to appear (phew). It deffo wasn't the Torch they were going to mate, as mentioned above Torch was closed by then. If I remember correctly they were on their way to Leeds. in my minds eye I can still see Mick in a number of situations. Great lad and one of the Torchites that had time for us who were a few years younger and starting out on the soul/nighter road. Coincidentally about 25 years later around 1998 I was in a charity shop when in the back room I saw a 50 record box. Opening it up I saw it was full of Northern and knew immediately it was Mick's box, bought the lot for a fiver. First thing I did getting the box back home was seeing if the gear was still in the bottom ... was it fook There must be some photos of him somewhere, anyone? ..terrible thought just occurred to me..there but for the grace...in '73 i really became aware of Northern soul..having gradually been collecting Motown and Soul 45's for a few years..i hadn't passed my test so was always trying to get a lift here and there (usually to Boston's Gliderdrome) i knew Mick had wheels but i didn't know him well enough to cadge a lift..of God go I...never thought about it before..heres weird thing..i can remember clearly Mick's outfit! usually wore white skinners with a navy blue wool long sleeve jumper with green collar..that he bought from us,,,can see it now..
Guest Dave Turner Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) no its not you..another Dave? No, not me mate. Can't think who else called Dave from Grantham would know him. Apart from Dave Owen who was living in Grantham at the time but can't imagine it would be him somehow. Dave Raistrick from Skegg knew him, any chance you've got wires crossed. I can remember him in denim skinners, they looked great on him as he had the right build for 'em. I can also remember coming back from Leicester where he'd bought a new maroon Harrington, probably a year or so before I got into soul ie '71 ish. Anyway at a local village disco a scrap started and someone got whacked. As he was falling back he grabbed what he could to stop himself landing on the deck. Unfortunately it was Mick's new Harrington that he was wearing at the time and he ripped it. Very vivid memory of Mick then hitting this same poor fooker, him landing in a chair whence Mick gave him a kick with his brogues which glances off this blokes chin and hit's the underneath of the fire extinquisher which came off it's bracket and fell on the blokes head ... I kid you not, can still see it . Edited April 20, 2012 by Dave Turner
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 No, not me mate. Can't think who else called Dave from Grantham would know him. Apart from Dave Owen who was living in Grantham at the time but can't imagine it would be him somehow. Dave Raistrick from Skegg knew him, any chance you've got wires crossed. no it was Dave Owen..deffo..Dave Rai knew him but like me from afar..
Guest Dave Turner Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 no it was Dave Owen..deffo..Dave Rai knew him but like me from afar.. Ah, Dave Owen then. Dave used to live in Grantham and was a window cleaner. I used to borrow records off him to tape. Think he's in Donny now, at least he was last time I spoke to him about 3 years ago.
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Ah, Dave Owen then. Dave used to live in Grantham and was a window cleaner. I used to borrow records off him to tape. Think he's in Donny now, at least he was last time I spoke to him about 3 years ago. sounds about right..Ross turned up at Eastgate market nr Skegness about 7/8 years ago..completely lost the plot..he'd tried to convince my mate he was Ross Winstanley..still had all the great Wigan records..but needed to sell them quick..my mate who should,ve known better didnt twigg..and called me to see i wanted to buy..after several minutes..i figured it out..
Daveyboy66 Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 no it was Dave Owen..deffo..Dave Rai knew him but like me from afar.. Wasn't Dave Owen living in that flat on Infirmary Rd in Sheffield by then with Karen...he had the bottom flat and Dodger and Pauline had the middle one..I was knocking about with Judy S at the time and shortly afterwards Dodger moved back to Grantham cos' me and Judy used to go and stop with them
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