Sheldonsoul Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 looking at usa e bay some seller called partinville found 4 shrine gems in an estate lot, j.d bryant ,sidney hall,the cairos and les chansonettes. lucky feckin bastard
bri pinch Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 looking at usa e bay some seller called partinville found 4 shrine gems in an estate lot, j.d bryant ,sidney hall,the cairos and les chansonettes. lucky feckin bastard R, SEEN EM IN THE EBAY SIDEBAR ON HERE LAST DAY OR SO. LOOKS LIKE HE'S GONNA MAKE A MINT. BRI PINCH.
NEV Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 R, SEEN EM IN THE EBAY SIDEBAR ON HERE LAST DAY OR SO. LOOKS LIKE HE'S GONNA MAKE A MINT. BRI PINCH. Ayye those lucky beggars at ebay are gonna make a killing in commision from rare soul ........as per usual The two plus two , looks set to hot up too .....last time i checked there were 350 people watching it I wonder what percentage are snipers .....versus rubber neckers Somebodys gonna have a few nice prezzies before xmas........and it won't be me
Sheldonsoul Posted November 23, 2009 Author Posted November 23, 2009 Ayye those lucky beggars at ebay are gonna make a killing in commision from rare soul ........as per usual The two plus two , looks set to hot up too .....last time i checked there were 350 people watching it I wonder what percentage are snipers .....versus rubber neckers Somebodys gonna have a few nice prezzies before xmas........and it won't be me how can you check how many watchers there are ?
De-to Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 how can you check how many watchers there are ? bottom of the ad, https://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Rare-Northern-Soul-J-D-Bryant-Shrine-Records_W0QQitemZ290373261649QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item439b985951
Ted Massey Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 Ayye those lucky beggars at ebay are gonna make a killing in commision from rare soul ........as per usual The two plus two , looks set to hot up too .....last time i checked there were 350 people watching it I wonder what percentage are snipers .....versus rubber neckers Somebodys gonna have a few nice prezzies before xmas........and it won't be me wouldnt say thats a nice pressie in that condition Nev
Sheldonsoul Posted November 23, 2009 Author Posted November 23, 2009 bottom of the ad, https://cgi.ebay.com/...=item439b985951 thats not watchers though is it, thought that was how many people had viewed the page
Dylan Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 thats not watchers though is it, thought that was how many people had viewed the page its not even how many people is it ? I think its how many times the item has been viewed but might be wrong...... so some people might have viewed it 10 times etc etc
Gasher Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 it only registers individual hits so it you look at it 10 times it still just registers once unles you log in as a different user. 300 = 300 individual hits not 30 people looking at it 10 times gasher
bri pinch Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 REALISTICALLY, WOULDNT HAVE THORT THE'D BE OVER 300 PEEPS WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS, NEVER MIND BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO BE ABLE TO BUY IT. BRI PINCH.
Sheldonsoul Posted November 23, 2009 Author Posted November 23, 2009 REALISTICALLY, WOULDNT HAVE THORT THE'D BE OVER 300 PEEPS WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS, NEVER MIND BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO BE ABLE TO BUY IT. BRI PINCH. right lets get back on the thread, j d bryant whats it gonna go for and is anyone thinking of bidding
NEV Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 REALISTICALLY, WOULDNT HAVE THORT THE'D BE OVER 300 PEEPS WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS, NEVER MIND BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO BE ABLE TO BUY IT. BRI PINCH. 391 WATCHIN TWO PLUS TWO 54 WATCHING J.D BRYANT But the shrines have only just gone up whereas the TPT is finishing on Wednesday And the two plus two is currently the most watched 45 on ebay
NEV Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 391 WATCHIN TWO PLUS TWO 54 WATCHING J.D BRYANT But the shrines have only just gone up whereas the TPT is finishing on Wednesday And the two plus two is currently the most watched 45 on ebay And discounting "buy it now" high priced items For auctions only this is the highest priced item on the record buyers live auction https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/U2-Out-of-Control-numbered-12-548-1000-U2-Three-U23_W0QQitemZ300368015285QQcategoryZ306QQcmdZViewItem
Sheldonsoul Posted November 23, 2009 Author Posted November 23, 2009 dont even think jd bryant is that good a record, in fact i think its shat
Iancsloft Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 right lets get back on the thread, j d bryant whats it gonna go for and is anyone thinking of bidding ======================================================================== £4750
Sheldonsoul Posted November 24, 2009 Author Posted November 24, 2009 £6750 the winner who guesses correctly will actually win a nice shiny mint copy (pressing) lol
Dave Pinch Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 dont even think jd bryant is that good a record, in fact i think its shat dont think any of the four shrines up for grabs or that 2 plus 2 are anything to shout about. plenty of better rare 45`s to spend money on if you`ve got it dave
grant Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 dont think any of the four shrines up for grabs or that 2 plus 2 are anything to shout about. plenty of better rare 45`s to spend money on if you`ve got it dave well they dont come much better that the cautions, that tune has everything
Sheldonsoul Posted November 24, 2009 Author Posted November 24, 2009 well they dont come much better that the cautions, that tune has everything [/quo got to agree the cautions and eddie daye & the four bars are by far the best
NEV Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 Always amazes me , when one of the big money records appears on ebay and someone starts a thread regarding price Loads of people come on and start knocking the tune. It's totally irrelevant to the thread topic imho The fact is theyre rare and obviously very desirable to a lot of soul collectors ,but only a few can afford em. If you were at a rare soul venue and someone put J.D BRYANT on the decks, trust me it'd sound awesome out loud. Even William Powell in the right venue i:e a proper Northern soul night ,would fill the floor and have em drooling. Theyre collectors pieces to me ,great examples that represent the scene wether you like the "rare soul" scene or the nostalgic oldies sounds. I'm sure we all know a £10 record that sounds better ,but it has nothing to do with the price /rarity of the subject in hand. Needless to say we are here to debate so carry on ...who thinks all shrine records are overpriced ,over hyped and just boring pieces of plastic But then again ..we are here to debate all things soul ,so carry on
Chalky Posted November 24, 2009 Posted November 24, 2009 391 WATCHIN TWO PLUS TWO 54 WATCHING J.D BRYANT But the shrines have only just gone up whereas the TPT is finishing on Wednesday And the two plus two is currently the most watched 45 on ebay but if thats the counter figure at the bottom of the page it's views not watching. I've viewed it but I'm not watching it.
Gasher Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 are you fools deaf?????????????????? JDB and the Cairos are fukin awesome 2 of the best NS tunes ever IMO average my arse along with the Prophets..you got 3 in my top 10 ever. so im going to buy them.. gasher
KevH Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Always amazes me , when one of the big money records appears on ebay and someone starts a thread regarding price Loads of people come on and start knocking the tune. It's totally irrelevant to the thread topic imho The fact is theyre rare and obviously very desirable to a lot of soul collectors ,but only a few can afford em. If you were at a rare soul venue and someone put J.D BRYANT on the decks, trust me it'd sound awesome out loud. Even William Powell in the right venue i:e a proper Northern soul night ,would fill the floor and have em drooling. Theyre collectors pieces to me ,great examples that represent the scene wether you like the "rare soul" scene or the nostalgic oldies sounds. I'm sure we all know a £10 record that sounds better ,but it has nothing to do with the price /rarity of the subject in hand. Needless to say we are here to debate so carry on ...who thinks all shrine records are overpriced ,over hyped and just boring pieces of plastic But then again ..we are here to debate all things soul ,so carry on Nev,nev,nev,nev,nev.Are you saying that there's a 10 quid record better than JDB ? ..Or than WP? . Back to the Shrine find,wouldn't it be nice if the Cairo's had ED & 4 Bars on the flip...?
Benji Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 are you fools deaf?????????????????? JDB and the Cairos are fukin awesome I'm with you on JDB but not sure about the Cairos, sometimes I think it's ok the next day I think it's rubbish. Personal top three Shrine tracks (that come to mind w/out 2nd thought): 1) Shirley Edwards - Dream my heart 2) JD Bryant - I won't be coming back 3) Ray Pollard - No more like me These three overshadow everything else that was recorded for Shrine (IMO!)
Jaco Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 I'm with you on JDB but not sure about the Cairos, sometimes I think it's ok the next day I think it's rubbish. Personal top three Shrine tracks (that come to mind w/out 2nd thought): 1) Shirley Edwards - Dream my heart 2) JD Bryant - I won't be coming back 3) Ray Pollard - No more like me These three overshadow everything else that was recorded for Shrine (IMO!) Dont disagree with your top 3 being awesome, but nothing overshadows the Prophets as far as I'm concerned. The epitomy of group soul.
Guest Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Always amazes me , when one of the big money records appears on ebay and someone starts a thread regarding price Loads of people come on and start knocking the tune. It's totally irrelevant to the thread topic imho The fact is theyre rare and obviously very desirable to a lot of soul collectors ,but only a few can afford em. If you were at a rare soul venue and someone put J.D BRYANT on the decks, trust me it'd sound awesome out loud. Even William Powell in the right venue i:e a proper Northern soul night ,would fill the floor and have em drooling. Theyre collectors pieces to me ,great examples that represent the scene wether you like the "rare soul" scene or the nostalgic oldies sounds. I'm sure we all know a £10 record that sounds better ,but it has nothing to do with the price /rarity of the subject in hand. Needless to say we are here to debate so carry on ...who thinks all shrine records are overpriced ,over hyped and just boring pieces of plastic But then again ..we are here to debate all things soul ,so carry on Fair point and I agree to an extent. The rarity and that kudos of owning something which nobody, or only a handful of others possess, have always been an integral part of the Northern scene. The problem I have with this area of collecting is how it affects the price of everything else. The higher the big rarities go, the higher the general price of records has risen, to the point where we now have 100s of records which used to be obtainable for 20 or so, selling at £100 every time a dealer gets hold of one. There are no more or less of these records around and a lot of people have copies of them, they simply bought them at an earlier point before the prices inflated. As for Shrine itself, personally I think the records are somewhat overrated, somebody has said JD BRYANT would sound great up loud at a Niter, but it depends on where you place the barometer of 'great'.... Nothing on the label (In my opinion) comes close to touching something from Motown like SPINNERS 'I'll always love you', which remains a 20 quid odd record, but as a piece of 60S dance soul, eptimomises perfection. (Melody, production, vocals, lyrics etc).
Mal C Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) Think you all might wanna add Tommy Knight-Dont bring back those memories / Unissued Shrine and Bobby Reed to that list of amazing Shrine productions...??? I know they never actually came out in the 6ts, But Shirley Edwards, JD Bryant, Ray pollard, Carios, Prophets cant be mentioned without them, can they? Christ I'd just love to own a Shrine record, I never have... Can somebody get the Gasher another bit of Cake!! he looks like he's about to BURST!!! Mal.C. Edited November 25, 2009 by Mal.C.
Sheldonsoul Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 Dont disagree with your top 3 being awesome, but nothing overshadows the Prophets as far as I'm concerned. The epitomy of group soul. got a soundclip of the prophets
bri pinch Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Nothing on the label (In my opinion) comes close to touching something from Motown like SPINNERS 'I'll always love you', which remains a 20 quid odd record, but as a piece of 60S dance soul, eptimomises perfection. (Melody, production, vocals, lyrics etc).
bri pinch Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 got a soundclip of the prophets WOULDNT BOTHER..... IT'S AWFUL.(IMHO) BRI PINCH.
Sheldonsoul Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 WOULDNT BOTHER..... IT'S AWFUL.(IMHO) BRI PINCH. seems like theres an awful lot of shite on the shrine label
Guest Matt Male Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) Dont disagree with your top 3 being awesome, but nothing overshadows the Prophets as far as I'm concerned. The epitomy of group soul. Totally agree. It doesn't get any better than this in my opinion. When it kicks off a minute in, that's soul heaven. Edited November 25, 2009 by Matt Male
Guest Polyvelts Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Its all a matter of taste of course, but "This Time" is IMO the standout track on a label full of class tunes ! One of those records that when you dance to it you can truly lose yourself in it.
Sheldonsoul Posted November 25, 2009 Author Posted November 25, 2009 Totally agree. It doesn't get any better than this in my opinion. When it kicks off a minute in, that's soul heaven. thats not bad at all
bri pinch Posted November 25, 2009 Posted November 25, 2009 Totally agree. It doesn't get any better than this in my opinion. When it kicks off a minute in, that's soul heaven. THATS THE TROUBLE IT TAKES A MINUTE TO KICK IN AND THEN IT;S LIKE.........OVER BRI PINCH.
Guest franky m Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 What a find ! anyone know how many copys of JD Bryant are in circulation ?
bri pinch Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 NOT REALLY, MAYBE ONLY HALF A DOZEN BRI PINCH
boba Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 Totally agree. It doesn't get any better than this in my opinion. When it kicks off a minute in, that's soul heaven. flip is better
Garethx Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 The Youtube clip of "One Gold Piece" above sounds quite different to the 45.
Guest sean daniels Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 dont even think jd bryant is that good a record, in fact i think its shat YOU F###ING WHAT??????
Guest sean daniels Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 are you fools deaf?????????????????? JDB and the Cairos are fukin awesome 2 of the best NS tunes ever IMO average my arse along with the Prophets..you got 3 in my top 10 ever. so im going to buy them.. gasher Here Here young man. Here Here
Iancsloft Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 are you fools deaf?????????????????? JDB and the Cairos are fukin awesome 2 of the best NS tunes ever IMO average my arse along with the Prophets..you got 3 in my top 10 ever. so im going to buy them.. gasher ==================================================================================== Me too
Dylan Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 another good one on the label. One of my fave's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TP6ZPth0GI
Guest Matt Male Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 The Youtube clip of "One Gold Piece" above sounds quite different to the 45. Well i think it's Mark Speakman's copy and he's posted it on YouTube as Netspeaky, so i'm pretty sure it is the 45. The 45 in the picture is the one playing and he discusses it in the comments. Here's the link You're right though, there is another version.
Sheldonsoul Posted November 26, 2009 Author Posted November 26, 2009 What a find ! anyone know how many copys of JD Bryant are in circulation ? going by the price tag is in the top 10 rarest along side don gardner and the likes
Garethx Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 Well i think it's Mark Speakman's copy and he's posted it on YouTube as Netspeaky, so i'm pretty sure it is the 45. The 45 in the picture is the one playing and he discusses it in the comments. Here's the link You're right though, there is another version. Thanks Matt. I stand corrected: it's nice to hear the 45 at close quarters, even through weedy PC speakers. I think there are three distinct mixes: this one (lots of echo on the falsetto lead vocal from about half way through); the mix used on the Kent Shrine compilation CD and the mix used on the Horace's vinyl LP which (to my ears) sounds quite different again. Am I right in thinking that the latter was done from the unmixed master tape by Eddie Singleton himself before a copy of the 45 actually resurfaced? Perhaps Ady C. or Andy Rix can enlighten us. I don't have the facility to upload soundfiles but it might be instructive if someone could kindly upload the versions from both 'Capitol Soul Volume 2' on Horace's and the Kent Shrine CD. I must say I prefer the Horace's mix, but this may be a case of it being the first way I heard the tune. Whatever, to me it's one of the single greatest harmony Northern records bar none. Those who knock Shrine as a label misunderstand its appeal I think.
Sheldonsoul Posted November 27, 2009 Author Posted November 27, 2009 YOU F###ING WHAT?????? thats just my personal choice,if every one liked the same thing what a shite world this would be
Corbett80 Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) Prophets best soul record i've ever heard. Probably one of the best pieces of music i've ever heard full stop. Could gas on endlessly about how good it actually is, but i won't because i'd end up boring myself. Chewed Mick H's ear off about it in Asturias, sorry Mick Edited November 27, 2009 by mulf
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