Do Collectors Really Pay For "place Holders"?

[Agent45]

You're digging out in the field and you happen upon a very rare/sought after/expensive 45 but it's totally trashed to the point that you wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy's turntable. But your conscience won't let you leave the 45 there so you pick it up and bring it home. Now what? You can't really play it, but would anyone else want it either? What are your thoughts on this phenomenon?

[Dylan]

got a few vg things tha play very well.

but only if thats all i've been able to locate. But I won't pay top $ for them.

for reference that last leste tipton that just went through ebay falls way below my idea of what a vg record should sound like. It was more like G.

[Benji]

Frame it and put it on the wall, or cut around the label and stick it on your DJ box, or melt it into a nice cup for your beloved ones hair ties (or flower pot if it's a 12").

Failing that I'd really put it into the collection I guess....

[Guest REVILOT]

If it only costs pennies, buy it and frame it.

[Ezzie Brown]

sell it cheap to someone desperate for it ,in any condition, ezzie

[Codfromderby]

i reckon a record when trashed has some sort of provenance therefore history of being used so makes it more interesting, used to have a copy of the professionals that looked like the playing surface had been sanded down, the labels had been scrubbed with a pan scourer and the writing was barely visible and it had edge chips, it played all the way through with the sound of bacon frying in the back ground , i loved that record ! before the days of cds etc it was my only way of enjoying the sound, also are some shrine records still collecatable even though the paper label has come of the record and been lost

[Garethx]

Or start specialising in collecting such records and open an ebay store.

[Agent45]

Or start specialising in collecting such records and open an ebay store.

Ah yes! Possible business names:

"Trashed Treasures"

"Holey Grails"

"Dashed Dreams"

"Wrecked Rares"

I like it....

[Codfromderby]

Or start specialising in collecting such records and open an ebay store.

i,d buy from them if the price was right, if it plays all the way through and i can hear the music it,ll do, the store would have to be in the states though, a record that has been used and abused in detriot i like,

if its been used and abused in coventry it dosnt seem the same somehow

[Garethx]

Ah yes! Possible business names:

"Trashed Treasures"

"Holey Grails"

"Dashed Dreams"

"Wrecked Rares"

I like it....

Indeed. It seems like many sellers are currently adopting this business model. But without the catchy names.

For what it's worth I'll happily buy a trashed record if it's priced accordingly. Sometimes when I've upgraded to a better copy of a record I'll miss the pops and clicks of the older copy.

On a wider note do people outside of 'collectors' still trash records with everyday use? I know less people still play records these days but I often marvel at quite how beaten-up records used to get 'back then' as it were. Even only a few months of owning a record, playing it and taking it to parties used to result in some quite remarkable wear. I notice on the few occasions I see fairly recent second-hand reggae records that they can get absolutely battered within a few months of release.

[Agent45]

I notice on the few occasions I see fairly recent second-hand reggae records that they can get absolutely battered within a few months of release.

I figured that reggae records were just pressed up in VG- condition!

[George G]

You mean like this?

https://www.popsike.c...0182110343.html

A VG+ or better playing copy would be $4000+

Edited November 11, 2009 by George G

[Garethx]

You mean like this?

https://www.popsike.c...0182110343.html

A VG+ or better playing copy would be $4000+

Classic. I love the description:

"Doesn't skip or jump on either side, as easily removable price stickers keep the record lined up to track correctly."

Edited November 11, 2009 by garethx

[Samson]

Classic. I love the description:

"Doesn't skip or jump on either side, as easily removable price stickers keep the record lined up to track correctly."

Man, Detroit can be really hard on some records......:boxing:This one looked like it got ran over by the people mover.

[michael-j]

from the notch in the label, looks like it was cracked whilst having one of those stupid clip-in metal centres removed.

[Corbett80]

"Or start specialising in collecting such records and open an ebay store."

You've encountered Les Harris of San Antonio then Gareth? I hedged my bets and had a battered Primes on Lotta Soul off him at £40 but it arrived and was truly screwed.

Lupton had a mashed copy of the Royal Imperials on Mellow Town that we bought at Lifeline. It had a few stories to tell. Personally i think it had been glued to the wall of a bar or something and then creosoted. Strangely we managed to get a couple of jumps out of it by rubbing it feverishly with alcohol, so perhaps there is hope yet for it?! Maybe if we rub harder a genie might pop out and grant us a 100 box of Arthur Willis and the Tuska back catalogue?

[Codfromderby]

I figured that reggae records were just pressed up in VG- condition!

why does that happen, ive seen reggae stuff that looks like its been shot blasted never mind played, once bought a 50 box off an old jamaican guy, all 50 records were trashed and loads of them had very little left of the labels so i never really knew what they were, strangely all played though, no jumps or sticks,

theres a seller in the states who specialises in records that are in crap condition, dirty, smelly and sends them from the states taped to old cereal boxes as packaging, still not got to the bottom of what the brown dust all over the record and packing is

[The Tempest]

Picked up a copy of this last year at a car boot sale for £1.00 , sleeve mint , vinyl wrecked , I offered it for sale, fully explaining the vinyl was a goner , BUT still got £25.00 !!!!!!

[Rich B]

I once paid a tenner for a Checkerboard Squares that looked absolutely ready for the bin - just for the record room wall really. But when home I figured 'what have I got to lose?' gave it a good scrub, and hey presto, good as new! I just wonder why the owner hadn't tried doing the same? As Rob Smith had been the middleman on the deal I was curious as to why he hadn't taken a chance on doing the same thing.

On the down side I bought a knackered cracked Bernie Williams for £15 at Stafford after playing it through the Dj headphones, and it didn't sound too bad. It did when I got home though!

Win some lose some I guess.

RB