Harry Crosby Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 Hi all are these copies bootleggs? many thanks for any help
Guest Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 Hi all are these copies bootleggs? many thanks for any help These ? Reissue
Sebastian Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) Black text on blue background is the second issue (and it mis-credits the title as "You're Number One"). Original white demo has got black text on white background. Original issue has got dark-blue text on light-blue background. Edited November 2, 2009 by Sebastian
Harry Crosby Posted November 2, 2009 Author Posted November 2, 2009 These ? Reissue Cheers ken, is this a legit re-issue then?
45cellar Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 Black text on blue background is the second issue (and it mis-credits the title as "You're Number One"). Original white demo has got black text on white background. Original issue has got dark-blue text on light-blue background. Here's the White DEMO, made all the harder to acquire as the "B Side" is a Garage Collectible.
Harry Crosby Posted November 2, 2009 Author Posted November 2, 2009 Here's the White DEMO, made all the harder to acquire as the "B Side" is a Garage Collectible. Many thanks guys, great info as per usual-HARRY
45cellar Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 Hi Harry I believe that many of the Arctics were kept on catalogue over a number of years. Possibly, Pressed to supply demand from Original Plates or Source. The difficulty sometimes is the correct timeline / order of issue. These two from the 60's. This one has the same Layout as the White DEMO that I have recently seen, title over two lines. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The STYRENE Copies were from the 70's as I recall & I have always considered them to be 70's Re-Issues from Original Source.
Harry Crosby Posted November 2, 2009 Author Posted November 2, 2009 Hi Harry I believe that many of the Arctics were kept on catalogue over a number of years. Possibly, Pressed to supply demand from Original Plates or Source. The difficulty sometimes is the correct timeline / order of issue. These two from the 60's. This one has the same Layout as the White DEMO that I have recently seen, title over two lines. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The STYRENE Copies were from the 70's as I recall & I have always considered them to be 70's Re-Issues from Original Source. Thanks very much roger
Mick Holdsworth Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 Black text on blue background is the second issue (and it mis-credits the title as "You're Number One"). Original white demo has got black text on white background. Original issue has got dark-blue text on light-blue background. Although when you think about it "Your Number 1" as per the original, is wrong, and the 70's repress saying "You're Number 1" is a correction. Cheers Mick
KevH Posted November 2, 2009 Posted November 2, 2009 While we're on the Arctic subject can someone put up scan/info on "help wanted" please.(apologies Harry)
45cellar Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) While we're on the Arctic subject can someone put up scan/info on "help wanted" please.(apologies Harry) Unfortunately I haven't a copy of "HELP WANTED" in my collection Yet. Arctic is one of the labels we're compiling at Hitsville. The DEMO Is Single Sided like these two. Edited November 3, 2009 by 45cellar
Val (Chunky) Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 While we're on the Arctic subject can someone put up scan/info on "help wanted" please.(apologies Harry) here ya go
Jerry Hipkiss Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 How legal were the reissues? I know most have Virtue scratched in but I sort of recall it might have been a liitle bit of a grey area...
soulsalmon Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 How legal were the reissues? I know most have Virtue scratched in but I sort of recall it might have been a liitle bit of a grey area... Totally legal,done by Bonnie Brenner at jamie/guyden,also reissued anneDeandrea and pookie hudson,billy floyd ,kenny gamble and 3 or four of the volcano's tracks,seem to recall weldon mcdougall & val shiveley having something to do with the reissues
KevH Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Totally legal,done by Bonnie Brenner at jamie/guyden,also reissued anneDeandrea and pookie hudson,billy floyd ,kenny gamble and 3 or four of the volcano's tracks,seem to recall weldon mcdougall & val shiveley having something to do with the reissues Light blue label/dark blue lettering of "Help Wanted/lady's man",,?
Guest Perception Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 A lot of these re-issues are legal, but are really a specialist product for the UK market (Northern Soul). They where not re-issued for the USA record buying public. For that reason there is no demos of the re-issues, because they did not need to promote them! When they where done in the 70's we just called them pressings along with the bootlegs!
bri pinch Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 A lot of these re-issues are legal, but are really a specialist product for the UK market (Northern Soul). They where not re-issued for the USA record buying public. For that reason there is no demos of the re-issues, because they did not need to promote them! When they where done in the 70's we just called them pressings along with the bootlegs! SO NOT A BOOTLEG, BUT BASICALLY SHOULD BE CLASSED AS SUCH. BRI PINCH.
Harry Crosby Posted November 3, 2009 Author Posted November 3, 2009 SO NOT A BOOTLEG, BUT BASICALLY SHOULD BE CLASSED AS SUCH. BRI PINCH. To quote the MARVELLOWS-I`M SO CONFUSED if theses were pressed up by the jamie guyden corp, does that not make them a legit re-press? this is where i don`t understand this bootlegg thing, if records were pressed legally then there not a bootlegg are they? i allways thought bootleggs were illegal and had nothing to do with the original company, is that right?,-HARRY
KevH Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 To quote the MARVELLOWS-I`M SO CONFUSED if theses were pressed up by the jamie guyden corp, does that not make them a legit re-press? this is where i don`t understand this bootlegg thing, if records were pressed legally then there not a bootlegg are they? i allways thought bootleggs were illegal and had nothing to do with the original company, is that right?,-HARRY Could have been worse Harry.You could have asked about Mirwood.
Ged Parker Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 To quote the MARVELLOWS-I`M SO CONFUSED if theses were pressed up by the jamie guyden corp, does that not make them a legit re-press? this is where i don`t understand this bootlegg thing, if records were pressed legally then there not a bootlegg are they? i allways thought bootleggs were illegal and had nothing to do with the original company, is that right?,-HARRY I'm with you Harry. They are 2nd issues not bootlegs. If you are a collector that concerns yourself with such things then there not original issues but they are legal and legitimate.
Harry Crosby Posted November 3, 2009 Author Posted November 3, 2009 I'm with you Harry. They are 2nd issues not bootlegs. If you are a collector that concerns yourself with such things then there not original issues but they are legal and legitimate. Thanks ged and all for the info, will close the thread, b4 we go down the old road again
Recommended Posts