Heart Aches In Pain Pages

[Billywhizz]

there an original on ebay or first edition whatever with the same matrix number as mine TSB 1001A 96 superdisc n the b side is 95 can anyone confirm that n its 11cm i have been told its not its on ebay for $350 with a day n a half to go.

Billy P.S: this record is doing my head in

[Ted Massey]

Hi Billy it was confirmed at Nuneaton that yours is a second issue mate

[Billywhizz]

Hi Billy it was confirmed at Nuneaton that yours is a second issue mate

hi Ted, by the way excellent spot at Nuneaton forgot to mention it, theres one on ebay has already had a bid on it standing at $350 by the way wat is the orginal matrix number ive been told manships listing do make mistakes not saying they hav'nt, but no ones perfect.

Billy

[Billywhizz]

Think you might find it's 'Heartaches And Pain',mate!!

to much spinning last night webby thanks for info

[Ted Massey]

hi Ted, by the way excellent spot at Nuneaton forgot to mention it, theres one on ebay has already had a bid on it standing at $350 by the way wat is the orginal matrix number ive been told manships listing do make mistakes not saying they hav'nt, but no ones perfect.

Billy

Thanks Billy

Rob Smith had a good look at it and also Adam Topping( he had recently done research on it so as soon as he saw it knew it was a boot)

[Billywhizz]

Thanks Billy

Rob Smith had a good look at it and also Adam Topping( he had recently done research on it so as soon as he saw it knew it was a boot)

you said matrix number was wrong that was last words, there is a well known collecter at stoke i showed him the record keith mitchell sed it was the original

[Ted Massey]

Billy its even got the red stains on the label that signifys a boot

[Soulcarp]

ted your wasting your time

[Billywhizz]

Billy its even got the red stains on the label that signifys a boot

There IS 4 STAINS NOT RED ,RECORD IS 29 YEARS OLD,

[Ted Massey]

Billy its a F***** BOOT

Edited November 1, 2009 by Tedsoul

[NEV]

there an original on ebay or first edition whatever with the same matrix number as mine TSB 1001A 96 superdisc n the b side is 95 can anyone confirm that n its 11cm i have been told its not its on ebay for $350 with a day n a half to go.

Billy P.S: this record is doing my head in

Billy ,if your matrix numbers are same as the one Brad is selling on ebay and your "Superdisc" is spelt same both sides as i have wrote it ,then it is original.

We've been thru this too many times on here already.

The way to tell a boot is the writing, "SUPERDISC" is a boot

"Superdisc" both sides is original !

Jeez there are some unscrupulous people in the record buying game

[Guest]

you said matrix number was wrong that was last words, there is a well known collecter at stoke i showed him the record keith mitchell sed it was the original

Billy,

I looked at your copy at Nuneaton and it took me less than 10 seconds to know it was a boot. I've had the boot before and spent a lot of time working out how to tell the difference between a real one and a boot. Keith, or anyone else who tells you your copy is original are mistaken. It's not the matrix number that tells them apart but the way it's written in the dead wax that makes it easy to spot the boot.

Having said all that, the boot still has value IMO about £40-£50 if it's sold fairly. Seen boots described as boots sell on eBay for up to £100 which I think is crazy!! Also seen boots described as original or as 'not sure' sell for a lot more but thats pure greed from sellers and foolishness from buyers who should ask the questions before bidding.

Hope that helps,

Adam Topping.

[Guest]

Billy ,if your matrix numbers are same as the one Brad is selling on ebay and your "Superdisc" is spelt same both sides as i have wrote it ,then it is original.

We've been thru this too many times on here already.

The way to tell a boot is the writing, "SUPERDISC" is a boot

"Superdisc" both sides is original !

And thats how it took less than 10 seconds to know Billy's copy was a boot when i looked at it...

[NEV]

Billy,

I looked at your copy at Nuneaton and it took me less than 10 seconds to know it was a boot. I've had the boot before and spent a lot of time working out how to tell the difference between a real one and a boot. Keith, or anyone else who tells you your copy is original are mistaken. It's not the matrix number that tells them apart but the way it's written in the dead wax that makes it easy to spot the boot.

Having said all that, the boot still has value IMO about £40-£50 if it's sold fairly. Seen boots described as boots sell on eBay for up to £100 which I think is crazy!! Also seen boots described as original or as 'not sure' sell for a lot more but thats pure greed from sellers and foolishness from buyers who should ask the questions before bidding.

Hope that helps,

Adam Topping.

Adam ..i've spotted the ebay boots too and asked for the details ,and duly told them it's a boot !

The feeble replies come but they never change the listing details ...unscrupulous ,but as you say ...if your gonna pay big money for a record

Do the research or be prepared to get your fingers burned

[Billywhizz]

Billy its a F***** BOOT

TED U COULD BE RIGHT WILL DIG DEEP I NORMALLY DONT LIKE TO LOSE LOL TAKE CARE,BILLY.

[Soulcarp]

TED U COULD BE RIGHT WILL DIG DEEP I NORMALLY DONT LIKE TO LOSE LOL TAKE CARE,BILLY.

[Sebastian]

For the full story on boots vs. originals, check this out:

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/63310-sunstruck-pages-heartaches-and-pain/page__p__660190entry660190

[Billywhizz]

Hi Billy it was confirmed at Nuneaton that yours is a second issue mate

Hi ted,yeah you did,your knowledgement of records over last 30+ years is next to none,the record went straight back into the box,then i went on ebay yesterday,seen this record ,not known at the time it was a 2nd issue,it had 1 bid at 350 dollars,i checked it with mine,and that had the same matrix number,i notice on ebay it never said if it was 1st .2nd or 3rd,i just persumed at that price, it was a big O,also i was well out of order to mention Keiths name,at the time at Stoke he was very busy with his own records and he quickly looked at mine,if he had a few minutes to spare he would have said it was a 2nd edition,i thought i'd just clear the air on that one,keep on keeping on.

Billy

Ps.I wonder if the bidder think its the original.

[NEV]

Hi ted,yeah you did,your knowledgement of records over last 30+ years is next to none,the record went straight back into the box,then i went on ebay yesterday,seen this record ,not known at the time it was a 2nd issue,it had 1 bid at 350 dollars,i checked it with mine,and that had the same matrix number,i notice on ebay it never said if it was 1st .2nd or 3rd,i just persumed at that price, it was a big O,also i was well out of order to mention Keiths name,at the time at Stoke he was very busy with his own records and he quickly looked at mine,if he had a few minutes to spare he would have said it was a 2nd edition,i thought i'd just clear the air on that one,keep on keeping on.

Billy

Ps.I wonder if the bidder think its the original.

Pheww ..gald you are now sorted on this Billy

If it went on any longer i had visions of you changing your name to BILLYTHEBOOT

Gotta admit Bill it has a nice ring to it

[Billywhizz]

Pheww ..gald you are now sorted on this Billy

If it went on any longer i had visions of you changing your name to BILLYTHEBOOT

Gotta admit Bill it has a nice ring to it

Hey nev ,keep mr George lemons in the box billy