Mike Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 stumbled across this on youtube geezer who first filmed it seems to be restoring it and releasing as a short dvd WIGAN CASINO -- Some months ago I had an irate e-mail from a Northern Soul fan complaining that my short 1977 film had now appeared, complete, on YouTube and that the quality was TERRIBLE. Was I responsible for this abomination? I must say I was shocked when I checked myself and complained furiously to Granada Television about why they had allowed this to happen. Needless to say I had no reply, and when I discovered that a feature film called (probably) Soul Boy, based on Wigan Casino and actually using clips from my film, was being finished off for release next spring, I decided that something must be done about rescuing my old documentary. I had always kept a copy of the original broadcast, so I set about attempting to restore it to its former glory as best I could. The pictures were not too much of a problem, despite having been filmed on 16mm celluloid which had none of the advantages of modern-day digital technology. But the music, especially the Northern Soul tracks, needed completely re-mixing. So that is what weve done. Looking at the film again, Im struck not only by the extraordinary dancing (later to become world famous as breakdancing), not only by the brilliant Northern Soul tracks, but by the social observations the film makes ever so gently, but incredibly relevant today just as they were then. Listening to an old miner remembering when his best friend had been killed down the mine, you might not immediately think this is relevant to Wigan Casino. But all the old mines have gone; the old miner himself is now dead; the world he inhabited changed beyond all recognition. Just like the Wigan Casino itself, and what it represented. Gone, but like the miner, definitely not forgotten. I hope the film will bring back those memories and ensure they are never forgotten. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2lyv4XiJ0E
Phil_H Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 stumbled across this on youtube geezer who first filmed it seems to be restoring it and releasing as a short dvd https://www.youtube.c...h?v=A2lyv4XiJ0E Well, I'll say it. I can't wait to see this There, i've said it, anyone else? Phil
Tabs Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 Me too. Replace my old VHS to DVD transfer. Well, I'll say it. I can't wait to see this There, i've said it, anyone else? Phil
45cellar Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 Definitely Interested, I Remember This First Time On TV. Years Before I Saw It Again, YouTube, etc.
Mike Posted October 21, 2009 Author Posted October 21, 2009 wonder if he's got the out-takes ( that were doing the rounds originaly with no sound) with the actual original backing
Guest Soultown andy Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Ive been invited to pre release viewing of this in wigan,so will do a bit of a review.
Eddie Hubbard Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Hope so cuz I'm on some of them YEAH , you and me in the record bar Tabs , heading for that box of Okeh WD's ........Best,Eddie
Guest nubes Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Hope so cuz I'm on some of them complete with a blonde bop hairstyle!!!!!!...Delxxxx
Tabs Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Remember watching this when it was first aired, at your Mum and Dad's house. Where the fook have all them years gone. YEAH , you and me in the record bar Tabs , heading for that box of Okeh WD's ........Best,Eddie
Guest Matt Male Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Did it ever have original sound and not dubbed over music? Be nice to actually hear the room as well as see it.
Eddie Hubbard Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Remember watching this when it was first aired, at your Mum and Dad's house. Where the fook have all them years gone. Yes that's right Tabs , and we taped it on a small cassette player as well , who would have thought we'd still be digging the scene eh ?
Tabs Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Lost the hair now Del but still got my charm Take it steady and see you soon complete with a blonde bop hairstyle!!!!!!...Delxxxx
Davetay Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Yes that's right Tabs , and we taped it on a small cassette player as well , who would have thought we'd still be digging the scene eh ? Ya I taped it as well, and used the photo from the TV Times to put on the cover.
Ady Croasdell Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 I bet the juxtaposition with the old stuff still looks bollocks though. If he needs any help with licensing we might be able to assist, if he's selling it, it'll all need doing again.
Guest nubes Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Yes that's right Tabs , and we taped it on a small cassette player as well , who would have thought we'd still be digging the scene eh ? So did I Eddie!!!!..and yes totally agree...Del...xxxx
Jerry Hipkiss Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 I bet the juxtaposition with the old stuff still looks bollocks though. ...wouldn't it be an idea to replace that with the out-takes?
Jerry Hipkiss Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) Did it ever have original sound and not dubbed over music? Be nice to actually hear the room as well as see it. Not as far as I know - certainly can't remember seeing any mikes at the time of filming. Edited October 23, 2009 by Jerry Hipkiss
snooky Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Hi guys & gals,well the first guy dancing in the This England Judy Street clip is old mate Andy Hicken 20 seconds in and i,m 35 seconds....nobody reconnise me!!!!i had hair then and was slim But still good lookin even now cheers snooky Nobody contacted me for rights issues!!!!!hope i dont get bootlegged
Ady Croasdell Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Hi guys & gals,well the first guy dancing in the This England Judy Street clip is old mate Andy Hicken 20 seconds in and i,m 35 seconds....nobody reconnise me!!!!i had hair then and was slim But still good lookin even now cheers snooky Nobody contacted me for rights issues!!!!!hope i dont get bootlegged We wouldn't recognise you from your name, owzabout a mug shot? If you bring your mate along to the 100 Club and we get Billy Whizz down there as well we can recreate it like Frank Skinner used to do famous footy incidents.
Ged Parker Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 If you bring your mate along to the 100 Club and we get Billy Whizz down there as well we can recreate it like Frank Skinner used to do famous footy incidents. That would be soooooo funny
Citizen P Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Did it ever have original sound and not dubbed over music? Be nice to actually hear the room as well as see it. Yes, the original sound would be interesting. All of us stood under the balconey, saying F*ck Off, I aint going out there til they turn the lights off Tony
snooky Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 We wouldn't recognise you from your name, owzabout a mug shot? If you bring your mate along to the 100 Club and we get Billy Whizz down there as well we can recreate it like Frank Skinner used to do famous footy incidents. mugshot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i was the blonde one in vid clip....all gone pete tong now all salt&pepper now cant do mug shot i might frighten you all... snooky
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