Underrated, underplayed or just underwhelmed?

What are your tracks?

Can we take a track on its own merit now days and just hold it up to the ear without and connection to the dance floor or to any hype? I think we can and I think now days is the first time we do this as a scene, prior to this was a reactive ear after the dance floor had approved or disapproved it?

For example, Drisabone played cold for the first time on ear phones doesn't quite have the impact as hearing it with a few hundred people going mad for it at a nighter and can we now hear the out played oldies and appreciate them as musical works without their former divvy label or without the Casino clutter?

I have just heard Seventh Wonder Captain Of My Ship cold and it is a very underrated track, my opinion of course but can we now listen without the baggage and if so what holds up and what surprises you now days.

There are loads of records that deserve a clean slate and some that should be turned into ash trays.

Always been a big favourite of mine for the last 25 yrs , but so underplayed !!!!

Cheap as chips as well !!!

  On 10/10/2009 at 17:11, 123-motown said:

Always been a big favourite of mine for the last 25 yrs , but so underplayed !!!!

Cheap as chips as well !!!

Well underplayed but fook knows why this realy is a class track

Steve J

  On 10/10/2009 at 10:06, ImberBoy said:

I was thinking of doing a thread entitled "Records considered "played out" (i.e. overplayed) that you wish weren't" which seems similar to this thread.

But unless my ears deceive me that is a truly awful tune. Just IMHO etc.

edit; this is my opinion of a great record that has been flogged to death but I wish it hadn't been:

pat and the blenders - just because -

Edited October 10, 200915 yr by paultp

  On 10/10/2009 at 23:31, paultp said:

I was thinking of doing a thread entitled "Records considered "played out" (i.e. overplayed) that you wish weren't" which seems similar to this thread.

But unless my ears deceive me that is a truly awful tune. Just IMHO etc.

Agreed !!!!

Always remembers me of a terrible soul night I went to , 20 people tops , and this guy was completely pissed and danced to this record by spinning and losing control , flattening a girl going to the bog !!!!!!!!!

A good chunk of my Collection is actually underated, underplayed or undervalued. I love digging a little deeper and could suggest quite a few for your interest. Only if captain of my ship is one of your choices....I could do with an ash-tray .

Here's a few i would suggest;

driving old school "northern" soul.

double sided driving dancers. (i have a apare of this one with knackered labels but decent vinyl!!

Seems to be picking up interest this one. But for the "don't leave me behind" side.(infact had an inquiry about it this morning). the "my last love" side for me is the superior side. Not taking anything away from t'other as this is a superb slab of double sided vinyl. Watch it's interest and value increase over the next few months!!

Mike

  On 11/10/2009 at 09:53, posstot said:

A good chunk of my Collection is actually underated, underplayed or undervalued. I love digging a little deeper and could suggest quite a few for your interest. Only if captain of my ship is one of your choices....I could do with an ash-tray .

Here's a few i would suggest;

driving old school "northern" soul.

double sided driving dancers. (i have a apare of this one with knackered labels but decent vinyl!!

Seems to be picking up interest this one. But for the "don't leave me behind" side.(infact had an inquiry about it this morning). the "my last love" side for me is the superior side. Not taking anything away from t'other as this is a superb slab of double sided vinyl. Watch it's interest and value increase over the next few months!!

Mike

ok, now you're just rubbing it in ya begger

  On 11/10/2009 at 10:23, mikecook said:

ok, now you're just rubbing it in ya begger

SOZ dad eyes!!

You make a good point Simon.

Their are so many records that fall into the "Underplayed goodies" section

Why do records become "underplayed"?

I guess the main reasons are

1 Underplayed because - they are thought by many DJs to be too "common"

2 Underplayed because - not many DJs have them.

and of course

3 Underplayed because they are ash tray fodder as you mention

4 Underplayed because they have been overplayed:thumbup:

Underrated and underplayed - Betty Swann "Lonely Love" - on Money 129.

Great record. Cheap as well!

  On 10/10/2009 at 10:06, ImberBoy said:

Underrated, underplayed or just underwhelmed?

What are your tracks?

Here are a few contenders -

LUTHER INGRAM - AINT THAT NICE - DECCA

CODY BLACK - KEEP ON TRYING - RENNAISSNCE

CHANCELLORS - ALL THE WAY FROM HEAVEN - CAP CITY

AL HUGHES - TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT - SCOPE

BUDDY LAMP - JUST A LITTLE BIT OF LOVIN - D TOWN

O'JAYS - MIRACLES - APOLLO

RAY LEWIS SORRY YOU GOT THE WRONG NUMBER - SMASH

FABULOUS PLAYBOYS - HONKY TONK WOMAN - APOLLO

  On 11/10/2009 at 12:50, REVILOT said:

Here are a few contenders -

LUTHER INGRAM - AINT THAT NICE - DECCA

CODY BLACK - KEEP ON TRYING - RENNAISSNCE

CHANCELLORS - ALL THE WAY FROM HEAVEN - CAP CITY

AL HUGHES - TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT - SCOPE

BUDDY LAMP - JUST A LITTLE BIT OF LOVIN - D TOWN

O'JAYS - MIRACLES - APOLLO

RAY LEWIS SORRY YOU GOT THE WRONG NUMBER - SMASH

FABULOUS PLAYBOYS - HONKY TONK WOMAN - APOLLO

"Keep on trying" is an awesome track ! Forgotten about that one.

Rob

I've always wondered why Lou Edwards - Talking 'Bout Poor Folks has not had a second lease of life - it sounds so much better for today's scene than it did in the 70's

  On 11/10/2009 at 14:33, kjw said:

I've always wondered why Lou Edwards - Talking 'Bout Poor Folks has not had a second lease of life - it sounds so much better for today's scene than it did in the 70's

nice toon

  On 11/10/2009 at 14:33, kjw said:

I've always wondered why Lou Edwards - Talking 'Bout Poor Folks has not had a second lease of life - it sounds so much better for today's scene than it did in the 70's

Think Cliff Steele been palying this out....or am I thining of summat else

  On 11/10/2009 at 13:44, polyvelts said:

"Keep on trying" is an awesome track ! Forgotten about that one.

Rob

Yes brilliant - non Disco - 70s Soul.

  On 11/10/2009 at 14:33, kjw said:

I've always wondered why Lou Edwards - Talking 'Bout Poor Folks has not had a second lease of life - it sounds so much better for today's scene than it did in the 70's

Tis been getting lots of plays down south, but northerners wouldnt know that, would they

One that I think is rarer than people realise

GERRI TAYLOR - EMPTY ARMS AND BITTER TEARS - CONSTELLATION

  On 11/10/2009 at 12:50, REVILOT said:

Here are a few contenders -

LUTHER INGRAM - AINT THAT NICE - DECCA

CODY BLACK - KEEP ON TRYING - RENNAISSNCE

CHANCELLORS - ALL THE WAY FROM HEAVEN - CAP CITY

AL HUGHES - TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT - SCOPE

BUDDY LAMP - JUST A LITTLE BIT OF LOVIN - D TOWN

O'JAYS - MIRACLES - APOLLO

RAY LEWIS SORRY YOU GOT THE WRONG NUMBER - SMASH

FABULOUS PLAYBOYS - HONKY TONK WOMAN - APOLLO

Agree Luther Ingram

  On 11/10/2009 at 15:44, tim smithers said:

Tis been getting lots of plays down south, but northerners wouldnt know that, would they

Agreed !!!! Us Northerners no nowt !!! Believe Lou Edwards had a couple of spins thirty odd years ago in the area where the M6 has cobblestones.

My underplayed (& always has been) tune is "Somebody I Know"- Wales Wallace. I suspect had this record been rare it would be a true collectors trophy piece.

  On 11/10/2009 at 16:45, epic said:

Agreed !!!! Us Northerners no nowt !!! Believe Lou Edwards had a couple of spins thirty odd years ago in the area where the M6 has cobblestones.

My underplayed (& always has been) tune is "Somebody I Know"- Wales Wallace. I suspect had this record been rare it would be a true collectors trophy piece.

Yeh, quality 70's.

Another of that ilk, although played alot in the past -

VESSIE SIMMONS - I CAN MAKE IT ON MY OWN - SIMCO

  On 11/10/2009 at 16:45, epic said:

Agreed !!!! Us Northerners no nowt !!! Believe Lou Edwards had a couple of spins thirty odd years ago in the area where the M6 has cobblestones.

aye well it does take a while for things to reach the south

Two Candidates from my collection,one storming Northern,the second a 70s blinder

1--PERFORMERS--I CAN'T STOP YOU--MIRWOOD (this was championed a few years back by Neil Jones but still never broke wide range,its a slab of Northern Soul Dancing perfection and cheep

2---RANDOLPH BROWN---IT AIN'T LIKE IT USED TO BE--NINE CHAINS ( Great slab of 70s with poinient social lyrics right for today)

Personally I think the Masqueraders "How" is brilliant and definately underplayed - it sounds slow but the beat is defo a shuffler (well for me anyway) just love it so for all you DJ's please play it

  On 11/10/2009 at 17:26, chalky said:

aye well it does take a while for things to reach the south

...and we thank God for that

  On 11/10/2009 at 18:04, Miss Wasperella said:

Personally I think the Masqueraders "How" is brilliant and definately underplayed - it sounds slow but the beat is defo a shuffler (well for me anyway) just love it so for all you DJ's please play it

Totally Totally agree fantastic track to dance to , only got it on grapevine however,this gets me up everytime i hear it which is far too infrequent

What about

THE STRIDES - I CAN GET ALONG - MS

and the instr flip is ACE

I will be playing this @ The Mill next Saturday. along side alot of other underplayed goodies

excuse the plug

  On 11/10/2009 at 18:20, Patto said:

Totally Totally agree fantastic track to dance to , only got it on grapevine however,this gets me up everytime i hear it which is far too infrequent

What about

I GOT THE POWER from The Masqueraders - also on LABEAT

Sorming Deroit

  On 11/10/2009 at 16:45, epic said:

Agreed !!!! Us Northerners no nowt !!! Believe Lou Edwards had a couple of spins thirty odd years ago in the area where the M6 has cobblestones.

My underplayed (& always has been) tune is "Somebody I Know"- Wales Wallace. I suspect had this record been rare it would be a true collectors trophy piece.

i know, i was one of those who traveled 6 hours on a coach to find those cobblestones, not just paid a sixpence and got on the number 10 bus

  On 11/10/2009 at 14:33, kjw said:

I've always wondered why Lou Edwards - Talking 'Bout Poor Folks has not had a second lease of life - it sounds so much better for today's scene than it did in the 70's

Are all the promo copies of this a bit low (sound recording wise) ?

Not underplayed in the shrews living room by the bysey

Cheers Paul

  On 11/10/2009 at 12:50, REVILOT said:

Here are a few contenders -

LUTHER INGRAM - AINT THAT NICE - DECCA

CODY BLACK - KEEP ON TRYING - RENNAISSNCE

CHANCELLORS - ALL THE WAY FROM HEAVEN - CAP CITY very underated..beautiful arrangement

AL HUGHES - TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT - SCOPE

BUDDY LAMP - JUST A LITTLE BIT OF LOVIN - D TOWN

O'JAYS - MIRACLES - APOLLO love ojays stuff..imperial material is superb too

RAY LEWIS SORRY YOU GOT THE WRONG NUMBER - SMASH

FABULOUS PLAYBOYS - HONKY TONK WOMAN - APOLLO I like this a lot too.

Nice choices, not sure on t'others. (if i know them)

First dance fear - The Whips just a flippin fab record , i havnt heard it played out EVER except when i've played it myself xxx

Some more i like a lot...that don't seem to be too well known or forgotten at least.

Wayne Anthony You ain't wrapped too tight Roulette

Malibus Strong Love Sure-Shot

Fred Lowery, Big Bo and the Arrwows I'm Sorry Atco

V.I.P'S My girl cried Congress

Lonnie Brooks Demonstrating Chirrup

Mel Carter Deed i do Imperial

Norma Rudd He's Mine Sure-Shot

Anita Humes Don't fight it baby Roulette

Zena Foster Baby let me teach you

All worthy spins

  On 11/10/2009 at 21:21, posstot said:

Some more i like a lot...that don't seem to be too well known or forgotten at least.

Wayne Anthony You ain't wrapped too tight Roulette

Malibus Strong Love Sure-Shot

Fred Lowery, Big Bo and the Arrwows I'm Sorry Atco

V.I.P'S My girl cried Congress

Lonnie Brooks Demonstrating Chirrup

Mel Carter Deed i do Imperial

Norma Rudd He's Mine Sure-Shot

Anita Humes Don't fight it baby Roulette

Zena Foster Baby let me teach you

All worthy spins

Mel Carter and Norma Rudd, both been pounded at the ralway club for a long while, great tunes

  On 11/10/2009 at 20:54, posstot said:

Nice choices, not sure on t'others. (if i know them)

Whhat about

BILLY KENNEDY - THIS GROOVY GENERATION - THELMA

  On 11/10/2009 at 21:21, posstot said:

Some more i like a lot...that don't seem to be too well known or forgotten at least.

Zena Foster Baby let me teach you

Love this lady's voice and love the flip - Make It Me

  On 11/10/2009 at 21:30, REVILOT said:

Whhat about

BILLY KENNEDY - THIS GROOVY GENERATION - THELMA

Personally I love all the Thelma stuff, but this gets lots of plays just about everywhere, and the flip.

Funny isn't it that a lot of the Detroit stuff found back in the early years is played at, and deemed acceptable at, both Oldies events and Rare Soul ones.

hmm...

This has got to be one of the most underated 45s out there Just pure class

Freddie Hughes - I Gotta Keep My Bluff In - Wand -

I guess its just to common for the big boys to play and so cheep

Modulations ` I`m Hopelessly In Love`

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dJAQzzXjUE&feature=player_embedded

I am not even sure if this has even been played on the Northernsoul Scene????? I stumbled upon it on youtube and i have been playin it since!!

Wadda ya think?

  On 11/10/2009 at 21:32, REVILOT said:

Love this lady's voice and love the flip - Make It Me

not heard the flip but Baby Let Me Teach You is a fantastic tune!

Run For cover - The Dells

actually if i hear that once more i'll strangle someone.....

Anyway, when it comes to 'oldies' there is one which i would love to hear played (i will spin it on my next outing behind the decks)..... CANDI STATON - 'Upper Hand'

also : The Deadbeats - no second chance (a top late casino spin via Richard)

Todays People - S.O.S (for dancers only)

The Outsiders - Lonely Man (Palais monster)

Little Lisa - Hang on Bill (very girly but massive once)

  On 11/10/2009 at 14:33, kjw said:

I've always wondered why Lou Edwards - Talking 'Bout Poor Folks has not had a second lease of life - it sounds so much better for today's scene than it did in the 70's

I use to play this alot Kev a few years ago..but like alot of tunes on the local Notts scene it was considered shite

  On 11/10/2009 at 21:21, posstot said:

Some more i like a lot...that don't seem to be too well known or forgotten at least.

Wayne Anthony You ain't wrapped too tight Roulette

Malibus Strong Love Sure-Shot

Fred Lowery, Big Bo and the Arrwows I'm Sorry Atco

V.I.P'S My girl cried Congress

Lonnie Brooks Demonstrating Chirrup

Mel Carter Deed i do Imperial

Norma Rudd He's Mine Sure-Shot

Anita Humes Don't fight it baby Roulette

Zena Foster Baby let me teach you

All worthy spins

Banged this out at skeg weekenders many a time. Not touched by the "BIG" Dj cos its cheap

  On 11/10/2009 at 18:20, REVILOT said:

What about

THE STRIDES - I CAN GET ALONG - MS

and the instr flip is ACE

I will be playing this @ The Mill next Saturday. along side alot of other underplayed goodies

excuse the plug

Great tune,sadly sold mine but will get one again one day. Cant for the life of me think why this aint massive

  On 11/10/2009 at 21:32, REVILOT said:

Love this lady's voice and love the flip - Make It Me

Make it me is a beauty, too, yes. Lovely arrangement. Baby let me teach you is similiar to pattis' Pain Stain. (i prefer zena though)

  On 12/10/2009 at 09:14, ImberBoy said:

Modulations ` I`m Hopelessly In Love`

https://www.youtube.c...player_embedded

I am not even sure if this has even been played on the Northernsoul Scene????? I stumbled upon it on youtube and i have been playin it since!!

Wadda ya think?

Is that Patrick Vierra on the stairs!!

  On 12/10/2009 at 18:10, posstot said:

Is that Patrick Vierra on the stairs!!

has had spins but was probably more on the modern scene and gets the odd spin at crossover type venues.

mark

Another good track underplayed "You don't Mean it" Twanda Barnes

Jimmy Braswell "this time its got to be for real" jar val

marcus daniel "my best years" plaza

both underplayed and underappreciated

also the joe tex "all the heaven a man realy needs" recently changed hands on here for a fiver. Must now be worth its 15 mins of time in the spotlight and the inevitable silly prices

  On 12/10/2009 at 12:20, JMYTG said:

Banged this out at skeg weekenders many a time. Not touched by the "BIG" Dj cos its cheap

AHH, weekenders, i remember the time before kids. did cleethorpes a few times, never Skegness. Great record. When somethings hard to get is good as well..is that the flip of Don't fight it actually.

anyway....glad you play it..it deserves it.

Mike

  On 12/10/2009 at 18:08, posstot said:

Make it me is a beauty, too, yes. Lovely arrangement. Baby let me teach you is similiar to pattis' Pain Stain. (i prefer zena though)

Crossng threads here from The Hollywood Flames

But this is a corker

I'm Gonna Stand By You - Symbol 215