Ion T Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Hi all, A pal of mine is doing a PHD on the role of black music in the protest movement. Tony Mason - Take Good Care and Emanuel Laskey - Peace Loving Man immediately come to mind but I know there are lots of other 'nam references. Your help would be much appreciated! All best Ion Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) Hi Ion, hope you are well. Has he got the Kent cd, A Soldiers Sad Story. Might be a good place to start. https://www.acerecord...59&release=1079 ATB Chalkster Edited October 3, 2009 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Eddie Hubbard Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Hi all, A pal of mine is doing a PHD on the role of black music in the protest movement. Tony Mason - Take Good Care and Emanuel Laskey - Peace Loving Man immediately come to mind but I know there are lots of other 'nam references. Your help would be much appreciated! All best Ion Loads of em ' Ion , how about Our Day Is Here , by JP Robinson , or Just Remember Me - Creations on Globe ? Best,Eddie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Hi Ion, there's plenty, and probably the only upside to the Vietnam war was a prolific output of black American protest themed music...here's few obvious ones that spring to mind............. Edwin Starr - War....................of course Emanuel Laskey - Letter From Vietnam Zerben Hicks & Dynamics - Lights Out Larry Sanders Where Did Peace Go Free Angela Davis LP on Sound of Soul I'll have dig through and let you have some more.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 THink there might be a previous topic on Soul Source about protest songs and the Vietnam War, maybe one of the Mods can find it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfulsolutions Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Ion, as a previous reply mentioned, Zerben Hicks & Dynamics was issued with a picture sleeve with GI's on it, I have scans of this and the Free Angela LP, which was produced to raise funds to pay for legal help in freeing Angela (forget her 2nd name) from prison due to activity with the Black Panther movement. Lee Bates - Why don't you write - Instant makes reference to "this war so wrong". If memory serves I have a book by Robert Preuter(?) that may also touch on Vietnam and black American movement effect on Chicago Soul. Happy to supply scans and copies of pages given contact details. As I am sure you'll find out there will be many more, if some come to mind I'll let you know. Best, Lee Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garswood Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) here's a couple i posted on you tube 6 months back, neither particulary rare but the subject matter is vietnam Edited October 3, 2009 by garswood Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garswood Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 and this one Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Boba did a radio show full of Vietnam tracks.... https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/103083-sitting-in-the-park-vietnam-soul-show-5-24-2009/page__p__1081043__hl__vietnam__fromsearch__1entry1081043 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ImberBoy Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 BRILLIANT KORNERS - THREE LONELY GUYS (MODERN) Can't find a clip for this, sorry Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Brown Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 A while back there was a whole programme on Radio 4 dedicated to this very subject including interviews with big named artists of the time. It discussed the interference of the US Government and how they banned certain releases as they felt it was not in the interest of the war effort. I'm sure this must be archived. I think it was early this year and it was on a weekday around 12.00am. It might have been in more than one part. Hope that is of use. Regards, Steve. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 The Creations-Just remember me-Globe - Ann Sexton - Youve Been Gone Too Long - TWO OF THE BETTER VIET SONGS IMHO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest SoulRenaissance Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Hi all, A pal of mine is doing a PHD on the role of black music in the protest movement. Tony Mason - Take Good Care and Emanuel Laskey - Peace Loving Man immediately come to mind but I know there are lots of other 'nam references. Your help would be much appreciated! All best Ion There's another Kent 'nam CD "Does anybody know i'm here"? Vietnam through the eyes of black America 1962-1972 (CDKEND 245). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MBarrett Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Ion It wasn't explicitly anti-Vietnam but your mate should at least bear in mind the Wattstax musical festival of 1972. Only a one-day affair - but dubbed by some the "black Woodstock." Al Bell of Stax on the right in the picture below. You couldn't have an event like this in 1972 without there being an undertone of anti-Vietnam protest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattstax MB Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest dundeedavie Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 when i look thru my box i'll post the artist but a b-side of one of my plays is called "christmas in vietnam" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest veep1296 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Hi all, A pal of mine is doing a PHD on the role of black music in the protest movement. Tony Mason - Take Good Care and Emanuel Laskey - Peace Loving Man immediately come to mind but I know there are lots of other 'nam references. Your help would be much appreciated! All best Ion I have a FB friend who is a DJ & collector in Boston...he has a collection of "war songs" & posted up lots of label scans a while back on FB. I could connect the two......let me know if i can be of help.. Regards David Ferguson My favourite is Mike Williams Lonely Soldier on Atlantic & UK Red Atlantic... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Reed Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Johnny & John - Chrismas in Viet Nam Freda Payne - Bring the Boys Home James Brown - Say It loud (I'm Black And I'm Proud) Impressions - Choice Of Colour Impressions - Keep On Pushing Thinking about it nearly everything Curtis Mayfield did had some sort of message... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest dundeedavie Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Johnny & John - Chrismas in Viet Nam thats the fella i was thinking of Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev Moore Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Hi Ion Check out My Ship Is Coming in The Pacesetters on Mica. also The Hesitations Who will answer on Kapp also interpret Little brown letter Jo ann Garrett on Duo as being a anti war song. ATBest Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest smigger Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Do this for me - The Lovers on Phillips) Lyrics are about a lad who's going back to the States and his mate askes him to go and see his bird and what he shouls tell her. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Munchkin Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Do this for me - The Lovers on Phillips) Lyrics are about a lad who's going back to the States and his mate askes him to go and see his bird and what he shouls tell her. ralph graham, she just sits there Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 "Johnny's Gone To Vietnam" - Cal Green on Mutt & Jeff https://www.discogs.com/Cal-Green-Trippin-Johnnys-Gone-To-Vietnam/release/683921 Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Sylvia Maddox "Vietnam Blues" on Duke. Into the bargain the other side "Got To Be Free" is a more explicit 'protest' song. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
celthomas Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 jimmy cliff--vietnam i know it's not a soul tune but a sad and great record Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim Elliott Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 For us at Elliott towers, it's Emanuel Laskey 'Letter from Vietnam' and Michael Lizmore 'Promise that youll wait' Proper Soul and then some, Awesome. Jim Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Windlesoul Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Rance Allan Group Did you see what they have done Truth/Stax LP - totally awesome deep soul with powerful lyrics, listen to this in a dark room alone! Killer and will reduce you to tears! Mark Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) Not music, but spoken word LPs... Guess Who's Coming Home - Black Fighting Men In Vietnam Narrated by Wallace Terry [1972] on the Motown subsidary label "Black Forum" Why I Oppose The War In Vietnam - Martin Luther King JR [1970] also on Black Forum Edited October 3, 2009 by pikeys dog Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
kevinsoulman Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 ONE OF MY FAVOURITE MARTHA AND THE VANDELLAS TUNES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utSI-E2Kg_U KEV Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Black Gold of the Sun Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Whispers - P.O.W-M.I.A - JANUS Artist: THE WHISPERS Title: P.O.W - M.I.A Label: JANUS ; Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gert Mark Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Hey Ion Its a great subject, i foccused quite a chunk of my degree on a similar subject and it was so much fun. Not so much on the music front, but there is a touring exhibition of African American propoganda posters inspired (so i understand) by George Jacksons 'Soledad Brother' letters, it has just finished in Manchester Uni but i dont know where next. Also on Itunes there is a free weekly download which comes from the library of National Congress called the 'Black Media Archive'. Ive got about 200 hours of really fantastic primary stuff from there, including rare Interviews with prominant Black militants, including musicians, there is some really important stuff on offer there for free. Hope this can help. Good luck next week M Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 reactions "live my life for myself" frank and vivian "over here over there" sen town" https://www.sirshambling.com/artists/F/frank_&_vivian.htm Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Neiljon31 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Issue 12 of Shades of Soul, December 1987 had an article on this subject and then additions in subsequent issues. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Reg Scott Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 This one's a fantastic record that has great vocals and is very dancable (if that matters) but has a clear peace message whether it's explicitly a vietnam song I'm not too sure. "Got to learn to love... And if they could say they're willing, To stop all this killing, Let everyone learn to love, Gotta have a love..." VANGUARDS - GOTTA HAVE LOVE - LAMP - Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I guess the most well known and popular protest tune for the late 70's is The Philadelphia All-Stars - Let's Clean Up The Ghetto...though the album itself is a great slab of social commentary soul, with some great tracks......... Intruders - Save The Children Teddy Pendegrass - Now Is The Time To Do It Other social commentary / protest tunes from the 70's.... Walter Heath - You Know You're Wrong Don't You Brother - Buddah Johns Brothers - Try To Walk A Mile - RCA Shirley Wahls - Remember Martin Luther King - Blue Candle Moody Scott - We Gotta Save It - Seventy 7 Moddy Scott - (We Gotta) Bust Out Of The Ghetto - Sound Stage 7 Donny Hathaway - The Ghetto - Atco Betty Jean Plummer - How Can We Save It - Bell Eddie Kendrick - My People...Hold On Syl Johnson - Concrete Reservation - Twinight Marvin Gaye - Inner City Blues - Tamla Marvin Gayes - What's Going On - Tamla Timmy Thomas - Why Can't We Live Together - Glades Chi-Lites (For God's Sake) Give More Power To The People -Brunswick Lost Generation - This Is The Lost Generation - Brunswick Impressions - Choice Of Colors - Curtom James Brown didn't hold back on social commentary, and a few of his 70's albums hold some great tracks.. King Heroin - Polydor People Wake Up And Live - Polydor So many great social commentry tracks form Curtis Mayfield too... Ghetto Child - Curtom Miss Black America - Curtom The Other Side Of Town - Curtom We The People Who Are Darker Than Blue - Curtom Mighty, Mighty - Curtom Just about every Gil Scott Heron track.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest isis Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Vietnam related...Brothers Of Soul "Wait For Me" Protest...Willie Hutch "Brothers Gonna Work It Out" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Boba did a radio show full of Vietnam tracks.... https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/103083-sitting-in-the-park-vietnam-soul-show-5-24-2009/page__p__1081043__hl__vietnam__fromsearch__1entry1081043 i could probably do at least two more full show of different vietnam songs but the quality would suffer or they would be more deep-soul focused which is less in the theme of my show. as for socially conscious songs, i do one every mlk day, you could do hundreds of hours of songs of those, it's a genre in of itself, i don't see a point listing them unless it's a thread listing maybe the most "important" ones like curtis mayfield's "move on up", marvin gaye's "what's going on", isley brothers "fight the power", etc. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
De-to Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 has a soulful or reggae version of kenny rogers,ruby ever been done ???, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest miff Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Freda Payne - Bring the boys home - Invictus - Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Do this for me - The Lovers on Phillips) Lyrics are about a lad who's going back to the States and his mate askes him to go and see his bird and what he shouls tell her. Original of that by The Emotions on Vardan. "Don't forget that i love you" - Intentions on Phillips. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Eddies Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 The Bootleggers"Don't count on tomorrow"on discovery has...don't draft me .. etched in the run out groove. Best Edwin Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Diddy Morgan Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 The Bootleggers"Don't count on tomorrow"on discovery has...don't draft me .. etched in the run out groove. Best Edwin ive a 45 somewhere called bring my buddies back, cant remember who the artist is (or group)sure its the same backing track as phillip mitchell's im gonna build california all over the world ..........i think:innocent: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 ive a 45 somewhere called bring my buddies back, cant remember who the artist is (or group)sure its the same backing track as phillip mitchell's im gonna build california all over the world ..........i think:innocent: I think it's the change of pace Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 One 45 that never gets a mention on 'Vietnam/Protest' related threads is the great Pam Sawyer song, produced by Frank Wilson, recorded by the Supremes in 1970, "Bill, When Are You Coming Back". It's on the album "Right On!" and first became aware of it in 1970 as its on the flipside to "Up The Ladder To The Roof". Always loved it! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 One 45 that never gets a mention on 'Vietnam/Protest' related threads is the great Pam Sawyer song, produced by Frank Wilson, recorded by the Supremes in 1970, "Bill, When Are You Coming Back". It's on the album "Right On!" and first became aware of it in 1970 as its on the flipside to "Up The Ladder To The Roof". Always loved it! Sean frankly, vietnam and protest related songs are two separate things. most vietnam songs are not protest songs, a couple (the charades' and jimmy holiday's tracks) are even pro-vietnam, but most are just love songs about lost loves as vietnam was just the context for people's lives for 10 years and love songs were the convention of the genre. vietnam became a backdrop for the songs. protest songs were a separate genre entirely. the original poster didn't really make it clear what the phd student's actual thesis was or what types of songs he/she was looking for. i hope it's something coherent. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
harpo1 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Haven't read every reply..so probably mentioned by many Emanuel Lasky "Peace loving man"....not a protest song but certainly Vietnam related Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Diddy Morgan Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I think it's the change of pace yeah thats em! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest s0ul45 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Just a couple of links to previous posts. In the same month as The Supremes recorded 'Bill, When Are You Coming Back', February 1970, Martha & The Vandellas recorded 'I Should Be Proud' which is quite clearly a protest song. The song was also written by U.K. born Pam Sawyer. It's probably better known for the other side 'Love Guess Who'. Chris Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest isis Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 (edited) This biggie covers everything....The Temptations "Ball Of Confusion" Edited October 4, 2009 by isis Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jules Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Just a couple of links to previous posts. In the same month as The Supremes recorded 'Bill, When Are You Coming Back', February 1970, Martha & The Vandellas recorded 'I Should Be Proud' which is quite clearly a protest song. The song was also written by U.K. born Pam Sawyer. It's probably better known for the other side 'Love Guess Who'. Chris think the demo is the same both sides. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest REVILOT Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Whispers - P.O.W-M.I.A - JANUS Was going to mentin this one and then noticed this post. Fabulous record, absolutely..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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