Guest Posted March 24, 2010 Posted March 24, 2010 Down at Kebs a few years back and he played a few sounds at his house and i remember him telling me to pick up two particular records which should be big sounds both basically not played to my knowledge at the time and relatively not known by the masses...ONLY NOW ARE THESE STARTING TO POKE THERE HEADS ONTO THE SCENE AND RISING IN PRICE BIG TIME, YEARS AHEAD OF HIS TIME....Massive inspiration for me when i was getting into the rare soul/funk thang...funny how some of the biggest Dj's Keb/Butch etc. dont really post much on here... The more you know the less you show perhaps?... OR IS IT THEY CANT BE BOTHERED WITH PEOPLE ON THE FORUM?? Who knows... Like you and you aint no big thing.
Toodarnsoulful Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 Like you and you aint no big thing. Not as big as you Ken, true story..
Guest Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) Down at Kebs a few years back and he played a few sounds at his house and i remember him telling me to pick up two particular records which should be big sounds both basically not played to my knowledge at the time and relatively not known by the masses...ONLY NOW ARE THESE STARTING TO POKE THERE HEADS ONTO THE SCENE AND RISING IN PRICE BIG TIME, YEARS AHEAD OF HIS TIME....Massive inspiration for me when i was getting into the rare soul/funk thang...funny how some of the biggest Dj's Keb/Butch etc. dont really post much on here... The more you know the less you show perhaps?... OR IS IT THEY CANT BE BOTHERED WITH PEOPLE ON THE FORUM?? Who knows... two particular records which should be big sounds both basically not played to my knowledge at the time and relatively not known by the masses...ONLY NOW ARE THESE STARTING TO POKE THERE HEADS ONTO THE SCENE Would one of these tunes be a certain 45 you played when I was over last weekend if so f*cking awsome the best thing ive heard since I first heard mixed feelings sha la la in fact I would say its better What was the name of it again on yeah I remember now cheers Edited March 25, 2010 by fifesoul
Guest Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 two particular records which should be big sounds both basically not played to my knowledge at the time and relatively not known by the masses...ONLY NOW ARE THESE STARTING TO POKE THERE HEADS ONTO THE SCENE Would one of these tunes be a certain 45 you played when I was over last weekend if so f*cking awsome the best thing ive heard since I first heard mixed emotions sha la la in fact I would say its better What was the name of it again on yeah I remember now cheers Well tell us then,or is it a secret you never know we might all know it ,in the interest of oneupmanship i used to live at Kebs now go back to dancing to Whinehouse you two.
Guest Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) Only problem there mate is at least half of these were Jim Wensora's plays.. Universals is up there though.. Found and discovered by my mate Lenny RIP sold to Pete L and then Keb and then back then back again,or something like that. Edited March 25, 2010 by ken
Mick Howard Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 The Eddie Parker & Lorraine Chandler all nighter at TOTW mid 80's. (l to r) Keb, unknown (sorry mate), Rob Mariott, Pete Crampton, Danny Everard (I think) & Lorraine Chandler.
Alan Walls Posted March 25, 2010 Posted March 25, 2010 'kinell Mick, that's a cracker! Keb drowned out all the others, this mad Scottish voice going "AH CAN'T CHA-A-A-ANGE"!
Chalky Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Keb darge instrumental I have on a live recording, it was first time he played it, he called it "You Ain't Too cool" but no artists mentioned. Anyone know what it was?
The Tempest Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 Cheers for that, what is the proper title? It really is called You Ain't Too Cool !
Chalky Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 It really is called You Ain't Too Cool ! Hmmm I just looked at the track list for that LP and it ain't on there. Will do a google. Thanks
Peter99 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Not read all of this thread so apologies if I've missed it - but has this thread just been concerned with Kebs 60's and 60's newies stuff? Wasn't Keb originally a bit of a "modern" dj who sold up and then reinvented himself alongside Guy? Or is that rubbish. I do not recall ever hearing Keb play modern stuff.
The Tempest Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 Hmmm I just looked at the track list for that LP and it ain't on there. Will do a google. Thanks Apologies , it ain't on the album I was merely using it for artist illustration purposes !!!! It's a 7" on the THOMAS Records label
Chalky Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Apologies , it ain't on the album I was merely using it for artist illustration purposes !!!! It's a 7" on the THOMAS Records label Yep found it now, cheers.
Shsdave Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 Not read all of this thread so apologies if I've missed it - but has this thread just been concerned with Kebs 60's and 60's newies stuff? Wasn't Keb originally a bit of a "modern" dj who sold up and then reinvented himself alongside Guy? Or is that rubbish. I do not recall ever hearing Keb play modern stuff. He most certainly did, in fact for a while I'm sure that he was playing nothing but "modern". Pretty sure he was playing all modern at 100club about 80/81 ...........Ady ?
Peter99 Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 He most certainly did, in fact for a while I'm sure that he was playing nothing but "modern". Pretty sure he was playing all modern at 100club about 80/81 ...........Ady ? Cheers Dave. I thought that was the case. It seems odd looking back that I don't recall hearing/seeing Keb play any modern stuff but know enough about him to know he did. Might start another thread?
Shsdave Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 Cheers Dave. I thought that was the case. It seems odd looking back that I don't recall hearing/seeing Keb play any modern stuff but know enough about him to know he did. Might start another thread? You're welcome Peter , it all seems so long ago now , i couldn't name anything he played but pretty sure it was high end stuff. Oh I've been wracking whats left of my memory & just remembered one he use to play Family of Eve I wanna be loved by you, think I may even have pestered him to play it. Still sounds good sitting in front of my computer, wouldn't want to hear it out though 1
Ady Croasdell Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 He most certainly did, in fact for a while I'm sure that he was playing nothing but "modern". Pretty sure he was playing all modern at 100club about 80/81 ...........Ady ? He certainly did Dave, but like you i can't remember what the hell they were. i can't even remember how he stopped DJing (presumably) and started again as a newies DJ. No doubt he pestered the hell out of me and had built up a good following so I booked him, I was always sympathetic to the newies theory even though i didn't like it 100% in practice. It's probably one of the reasons I brough in 45 and 30 mins spots so the crowd didn't have to suffer a solid hour of any DJs whose tastes might not have been everyone's cuppa.
MrsWoodsrules Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 You Should Never Put An "E" In Whisky ! Unless it's Irish! Aid. 1
sir cumference Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 The only thing you should put in whisky is-more whisky. 1
Peter99 Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 You're welcome Peter , it all seems so long ago now , i couldn't name anything he played but pretty sure it was high end stuff. Oh I've been wracking whats left of my memory & just remembered one he use to play Family of Eve I wanna be loved by you, think I may even have pestered him to play it. Still sounds good sitting in front of my computer, wouldn't want to hear it out though He certainly did Dave, but like you i can't remember what the hell they were. i can't even remember how he stopped DJing (presumably) and started again as a newies DJ. No doubt he pestered the hell out of me and had built up a good following so I booked him, I was always sympathetic to the newies theory even though i didn't like it 100% in practice. It's probably one of the reasons I brough in 45 and 30 mins spots so the crowd didn't have to suffer a solid hour of any DJs whose tastes might not have been everyone's cuppa. There's something quite reassuring about the fact that you two can't remember either!
Chalky Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 two cover ups of Keb's, anyone remember what they were.... Four Shades - Tonight - c/u Rosetta Hughes - Ooh Wee Baby I Love You - c/u cheers
Soul Shrews Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 It seems odd looking back that I don't recall hearing/seeing Keb play any modern stuff but know enough about him to know he did. Remember hearing Keb playing "modern" @ Turnmills club London circa "87 (?)........a night promoted by Ion & Sean McClusky Cheers Paul
Peter99 Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 Remember hearing Keb playing "modern" @ Turnmills club London circa "87 (?)........a night promoted by Ion & Sean McClusky Cheers Paul Hi Paul I thought Keb was in his 60's mafia style pomp around 87 - maybe he'd turned again by that time and was heading into his deep funk era.
Soul Shrews Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 Hi Paul I thought Keb was in his 60's mafia style pomp around 87 - maybe he'd turned again by that time and was heading into his deep funk era. Think the 60s mafia was earlier than 87.......the Turmills gig may have been 88/89 tho........ not sure Cheers Paul
Guest Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) He certainly did Dave, but like you i can't remember what the hell they were. i can't even remember how he stopped DJing (presumably) and started again as a newies DJ. No doubt he pestered the hell out of me and had built up a good following so I booked him, I was always sympathetic to the newies theory even though i didn't like it 100% in practice. It's probably one of the reasons I brough in 45 and 30 mins spots so the crowd didn't have to suffer a solid hour of any DJs whose tastes might not have been everyone's cuppa. He used to play things like Larry Houston when it was rare Ade. ( I bought his copy off him) Keb was also resident in the back Modern room at Peterborough for Jon Buck in the mid 80's. Edited June 24, 2012 by Guest
Chalky Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 N'er mind all that modern stuff, what about these two cover ups? Four Shades - Tonight - c/u Rosetta Hughes - Ooh Wee Baby I Love You - c/u It has been said Otis Jackson was covered as the Four Shades but dunno if this is the one?
Gene-r Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Keb was playing modern soul as a DJ until the end of 1982. During that year I can remember him playing things like "Giving It All To You" by Cheryl Berdell, "I'll Get To That" by Tom Sanders, and even "How Can I Tell Her" by Curtis and "It Takes Heart" by Greg Perry. I can distinctly remember his first 60s newies spot in London in February 1983. The 60s mafia was kind of 'established in 1983/84. Incidentally, the playlist Chalky posted dates from Autumn 1987 - that would have been the time he and Rob Marriott creamed Jim Wensiora's collection when it was up for sale (hence the inclusion of J D Bryant etc). Edited June 25, 2012 by Gene-R
Soul Shrews Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 Think his "1st" modern soul stint may have lasted longer than "82 I moved to London in "83 and he was promoting modern soul nights @ Le Beat Route then Cheers Paul
Mark Jones Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Hi Think his "1st" modern soul stint may have lasted longer than "82 I moved to London in "83 and he was promoting modern soul nights @ Le Beat Route then Cheers Paul Hi Mr Woosnam! Remember attending a do when I was living in the smoke with Keb DJ'ing at the Limelight in Cambridge Circus in 1989, think by which time he'd sold all his 6T's mafia stuff due to divorce! Think by then he was moving toward his funk era? Jonesy (Mark)
Chalky Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 N'er mind all that modern stuff, what about these two cover ups? Four Shades - Tonight - c/u Rosetta Hughes - Ooh Wee Baby I Love You - c/u It has been said Otis Jackson was covered as the Four Shades but dunno if this is the one? Does no one remember the above?
Soul Shrews Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Hi Hi Mr Woosnam! Remember attending a do when I was living in the smoke with Keb DJ'ing at the Limelight in Cambridge Circus in 1989, think by which time he'd sold all his 6T's mafia stuff due to divorce! Think by then he was moving toward his funk era? Jonesy (Mark) Hi Mark What kinda stuff was he playing 1989 ? I'd pretty much stopped going to northern/modern dos by then. Cheers Paul
Guest Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Think his "1st" modern soul stint may have lasted longer than "82 I moved to London in "83 and he was promoting modern soul nights @ Le Beat Route then Cheers Paul If i remember right somethings telling me he swapped back and forth a couple of times. From playing Curtis, Larry Houston 81-2 (I know this cos him and Clarkie got me into Modern then from being a Mod) Then to newies and back to Modern again 85 ish cos he was doing the back room of Peterborough but i remember him being down the 100 club shouting dance you fckers to the Fabulous Pep's 86-7ish. Mind you it all blends into one after all these years.
Chalky Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 He was still obviously DJing with 60's newies in 85 and 86, Stafford and everywhere in-between. Stafford shut February 1986 so he could have had a brief fling with the modern after Stafford but he was soon back with 60's newies and bought quite a few of Jimmy Wensiora's collection. He retired again from 60's newies, outside of London at least December 1987. His last set outside of London for the 60's was at the Winding Wheel and his last three tracks were The Charmaines, Boss 4 and JD Bryant.
Chalky Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Another keb cover up I'm trying to suss.... Lester Tipton - I'm Gonna Stay or I Want To Stay It is the last track on this mix cloud upload https://www.mixcloud.com/Chalkster/stafford-top-of-the-world-2nd-november-1985-part-1/
Soul Shrews Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 He was still obviously DJing with 60's newies in 85 and 86, Stafford and everywhere in-between. Stafford shut February 1986 so he could have had a brief fling with the modern after Stafford but he was soon back with 60's newies and bought quite a few of Jimmy Wensiora's collection. He retired again from 60's newies, outside of London at least December 1987. His last set outside of London for the 60's was at the Winding Wheel and his last three tracks were The Charmaines, Boss 4 and JD Bryant. Good old Keb......I remember bumping into him @ "Time Is Right" record shop in Islington in 1990. He (as I was) was checking out the latest "soulful house" 12s. Chalky, maybe Tony Smith could help "uncover" some of those Keb cover ups ? Cheers Paul
Guest uroffal Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Keb was playing modern soul as a DJ until the end of 1982. During that year I can remember him playing things like "Giving It All To You" by Cheryl Berdell, "I'll Get To That" by Tom Sanders, and even "How Can I Tell Her" by Curtis and "It Takes Heart" by Greg Perry. I can distinctly remember his first 60s newies spot in London in February 1983. The 60s mafia was kind of 'established in 1983/84. Incidentally, the playlist Chalky posted dates from Autumn 1987 - that would have been the time he and Rob Marriott creamed Jim Wensiora's collection when it was up for sale (hence the inclusion of J D Bryant etc). From memory Keb played a mixture of both modern and 60s newies around 82 time including: 60s Newies Little Ron and Esquires - I found Someone Buck Rogers Movement - Take It From Me Vondells - Hey Girl You've Changed Gordon Keith - Look Ahead Modern Nicky Newarkers - Woman Jan Jones - Independant Woman Cheryl Berdell - Giving It All To You
Chalky Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 From memory Keb played a mixture of both modern and 60s newies around 82 time including: 60s Newies Little Ron and Esquires - I found Someone Buck Rogers Movement - Take It From Me Vondells - Hey Girl You've Changed Gordon Keith - Look Ahead He might have played them but they weren't his discoveries as ar as I'm aware. Little Ron was Gary Rushbrooke's Simms Twins cover up, Vondells was Garybas well. Gordon Keith was Dave Withers and I think late Wigan first.
Chalky Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Chalky, maybe Tony Smith could help "uncover" some of those Keb cover ups ? Cheers Paul Sussed some of them Paul. Lesser Tipton is Sebastian Williams Home Town Boy and The Four Shades is Otis Jackson & Compromisers on C&F. Trying to work out what the Innocent Bystanders Breaking Out is?
Dave Thorley Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Turks and Freddie North both Dave Thorley mate. As was The Empires, came from John Anderson
Seano Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 From memory Keb played a mixture of both modern and 60s newies around 82 time including: 60s Newies Little Ron and Esquires - I found Someone Buck Rogers Movement - Take It From Me Vondells - Hey Girl You've Changed Gordon Keith - Look Ahead Modern Nicky Newarkers - Woman Jan Jones - Independant Woman Cheryl Berdell - Giving It All To You Here's a scan of the original 'banda' I made to promote a night Keb was DJing at Le Beat Route. I'm pretty sure I remember him playing Jan Jones at the night, prompting me to buy it, and a few years later Eddie Hubbard played it for our wedding party. Also got Cheryl Berdell, though I can't remember if that was from hearing Keb play it or via tape swapping with the prolific Dave Hitch. Keb gave me a copy of John Stanberry's "I can't believe (she took the whole thing)" as a thank you for the flyer. He gave me a list of the records to put around the edge, which gives a bit of an indication of his playlists at the time - trouble is, as with so many things, there was no year on the flyer as it never seems necessary at the time. I was living in Woolwich and Deptford from 1981 - 1984, so definitely within that period.
Chalky Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 It would be 1983 Sean, only year in the early 80's 7th March falls on a Monday.
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