Pete S Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just wondered if anyone had tried it seeing as it appears that you can use vinegar to clean absolutely everything else! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ritchie Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just wondered if anyone had tried it seeing as it appears that you can use vinegar to clean absolutely everything else! You could be on to something there Pete . I cant wait to get home from work and try it on a scruffy item I have in mind... My only concern is if it works, the enduring smell of old chip wrappers every time I open my record box. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just wondered if anyone had tried it seeing as it appears that you can use vinegar to clean absolutely everything else! Definitely agree that the smell would be pretty bad...it might work though. I guess its probably been covered a thousand times on soulsource but Tesco window cleaner does it for me. It pulls the dirt from deep in the groove with no affect on sound quality. If you have any spare time from playing the records you can also clean the windows with it too.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Barry Holland Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Definitely agree that the smell would be pretty bad...it might work though. I guess its probably been covered a thousand times on soulsource but Tesco window cleaner does it for me. It pulls the dirt from deep in the groove with no affect on sound quality. If you have any spare time from playing the records you can also clean the windows with it too.... THAT'S JUST AN EXCUSE TO GET YOUR PINNY AND MARIGOLDS ON. (LOL). THE OLD WASHING-UP LIQUID AND COLD WATER DOES IT FOR ME, BUT WILL NOW TRY OTHER SUGGESTIONS. BARRY. KGB. KTF. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 What about lemon juice? Or lemon juice mixed with vinegar? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 its white vinegar they clean everything with - so if your gonna have a bash try that! personally wouldn't know myself as I have an aversion to cleaning Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davenpete Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Used to use windowlene to get water marks (as opposed to grease) off records. Dave Edited September 15, 2009 by DaveNPete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 What about lemon juice? Or lemon juice mixed with vinegar? Often wondered why lemonade is made with artificial flavours and washing up liquid is made with real lemons. Be interested to know if it works when someone tries it. I'd reather not be the first though:shades: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Elias Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just wondered if anyone had tried it seeing as it appears that you can use vinegar to clean absolutely everything else! sounds a bit fishy to me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ritchie Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 What about lemon juice? Or lemon juice mixed with vinegar? Both are just weak acids; and one is not many orders of magnitude weaker then the other. There is no desire to react because it does not lead to a lower energy (more stable) and the barrier for any possible reaction is very high In the Krebs cycle, acetyl-CoA (an activated form of acetic acid) reacts with oxalate in an aldol condensation reaction to form citrate. This reaction is catalyzed by citrate synthase. Does this help ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest carl_p Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 We've been using the clear windex multi purpose cleaner with vinegar on records for years. I found it works the best and never had a problem. I don't know if it's available in the uk. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Both are just weak acids; and one is not many orders of magnitude weaker then the other. There is no desire to react because it does not lead to a lower energy (more stable) and the barrier for any possible reaction is very high In the Krebs cycle, acetyl-CoA (an activated form of acetic acid) reacts with oxalate in an aldol condensation reaction to form citrate. This reaction is catalyzed by citrate synthase. Does this help ? Loads yes my neice is doing gcse chemistry Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gary Samways Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Loads yes my neice is doing gcse chemistry personally i wouldn't use vinegar or lemon juice as it could leave behind some residue. A good cleaning solution is a mixture of 4 parts diatilled water to 1 part iso propyl alcohol, just work this into the grooves with a clean brush and dry off with a lint free cloth. Or if you can't be arsed with that then pop down to Maplins and buy a can of Servisol anti-static spray, spray a small squirt onto the vinyl and rub round with a brush or cloth, it will evaporate almost immediately and if play it straight away the stylus digs all the crud out of the grooves, you won't have to do this very often, only if a record hasn't been played for ages. Try to avoid getting either the spray or i.p.a mixture on the lable , i've been using these methods for years and they really work well . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ritchie Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 personally i wouldn't use vinegar or lemon juice as it could leave behind some residue. A good cleaning solution is a mixture of 4 parts diatilled water to 1 part iso propyl alcohol, just work this into the grooves with a clean brush and dry off with a lint free cloth. Or if you can't be arsed with that then pop down to Maplins and buy a can of Servisol anti-static spray, spray a small squirt onto the vinyl and rub round with a brush or cloth, it will evaporate almost immediately and if play it straight away the stylus digs all the crud out of the grooves, you won't have to do this very often, only if a record hasn't been played for ages. Try to avoid getting either the spray or i.p.a mixture on the lable , i've been using these methods for years and they really work well . Yeah but can you eat it with salad ???? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gary Samways Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Agent45 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 You can, but isopropyl alcohol is better since it evaporates more quickly. I used diluted vinegar on a couple of records with old dried/crystalized cat urine once. Didn't get the junk off, but didn't destroy the record either. But isopropyl alcohol is very inexpensive (not that vinegar isn't). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 What about lemon juice? Or lemon juice mixed with vinegar? kin ell pete you taken up cookery lessons Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 sounds a bit fishy to me Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ritchie Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 You can, but isopropyl alcohol is better since it evaporates more quickly. I used diluted vinegar on a couple of records with old dried/crystalized cat urine once. Didn't get the junk off, but didn't destroy the record either. But isopropyl alcohol is very inexpensive (not that vinegar isn't). Important: Cleaning products such as alcohol, mineral spirits and turpentine are flammable and potentially explosive (if handled incorrectly). Make sure you carefully read and follow label directions for each product. Vinegar is neither flammable nor explosive whether handled incorrectly or not . An irrelevant but otherwise important fact Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raremusicdirect Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Has any one any information on diluted Ammonia say 1 part ammonia ; 9 parts distilled water A collector friend of 25 yrs been using it with lint free clothes and swears by it Just wondered any one have any experience or science to that ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Britmusicsoulfan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 No, but I've had good luck using a soft car cloth dipped in a solution of water and Joy liquid detergent (for dishes), squeezing off the excess water into the bucket, cleaning both sides of the 45 with it, then using a soft car cloth (dry) to clean it off. It works well and dries quickly. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I used to use gin or vodka at one time (clean a record have a swig ) regards Gilly Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ritchie Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Has any one any information on diluted Ammonia say 1 part ammonia ; 9 parts distilled water A collector friend of 25 yrs been using it with lint free clothes and swears by it Just wondered any one have any experience or science to that ? 1 part ammonia ; 9 parts distilled water = Ammonium carbonicum = Smelling salts My Nan use to keep some in her draws and some in her hand-bag & both were spotless ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I used diluted vinegar on a couple of records with old dried/crystalized cat urine once. Is that Tom or Tabby?...and how can you tell from distance?... .......we have both on our estate and I wouldnt like to choose the wrong kind Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 1 part ammonia ; 9 parts distilled water = Ammonium carbonicum = Smelling salts My Nan use to keep some in her draws and some in her hand-bag & both were spotless ! Thats handy! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
JOE TORQUAY Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just wondered if anyone had tried it seeing as it appears that you can use vinegar to clean absolutely everything else! hi , always use washing up liquid ( the cheap stuff ) on one of those small yellow sponges with the green bit on one side, just put a bit on the yellow side and wipe it on anti-clock and then leave it for a while, if it's a really dirty 45 i leave it overnight, just rinse off under a tap and dry in a towel then finish off with a duster, had varying degrees of success, some reocrds just won't clean up whatever you do to them, joe. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulchoons Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just wondered if anyone had tried it seeing as it appears that you can use vinegar to clean absolutely everything else! i have used vinegar on my records for some time now and it is great it does get alot of the dirt out. i use a soft toothbrush with it and go with the grooves, but the best stuff which i have found is Isopropyl alcohol (IPA). you can get it from chemists or off ebay. Many thanks Danny Clegg K.T.F Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest stevejan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Loads yes my neice is doing gcse chemistry I think he's trying to blow you up Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Margo Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Just wondered if anyone had tried it seeing as it appears that you can use vinegar to clean absolutely everything else! i think the record would clean up better if it had a few chips around the edge Edited September 15, 2009 by jeri Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Codfromderby Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Important: Cleaning products such as alcohol, mineral spirits and turpentine are flammable and potentially explosive (if handled incorrectly). Make sure you carefully read and follow label directions for each product. Vinegar is neither flammable nor explosive whether handled incorrectly or not . An irrelevant but otherwise important fact also if you are in any way an employer of anyone in the immediate vicinity when using these products you may have to adhere to coshh regulations (control of substances hazardous to health) and that may have implications to other activities you may encounter in your life of northern soulishness! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mach Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 i find adding salt to the vinegar, removes more stubborn stains, but dont use a cloth, use newspaper, but always remember to remove the fish & chips first Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark R Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just wondered if anyone had tried it seeing as it appears that you can use vinegar to clean absolutely everything else! Only ever use vinegar when they're chipped Pete! Cheers, Mark R Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kris Holmes Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Borrowing from a couple of the other suggestions: hi , always use washing up liquid ( the cheap stuff ) on one of those small yellow sponges with the green bit on one side, just put a bit in a luke warm sink of water so it's a bit diluted (essentially like doing the dishes but not so hot) use the yellow sponge side (not the green scourer of course) and basically just rub it around then rinse with cold water under afrom the tap and dry with towels. If there is dirt in the grooves then i use a soft toothbrush with the soapy water. Works fine if the record is indeed saveable. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mach Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Always remember, whilst performing these delicate operations, to try and keep the "record label" DRY", otherwise you can experience a common ailment, called "Bubbling" a most undesirable effect, which often devalues the said item, this condition is also,.. often terminal. ... one final tip,..never, ever use a Brillo pad. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
dthedrug Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Just wondered if anyone had tried it seeing as it appears that you can use vinegar to clean absolutely everything else! HI MATE, JUST TO CLARIFY WHEN YOU SAY VINIGAR? WHAT YOU SHOULD BE SAYING "WHITE VINIGAR" AND NOT THE BROWN ONE THATS CALLED MALT VINIGAR" AS I ALWAYS SAY TO EVERY ONE, BEWARE OF REQUESTS,? YOU HAVE AGO WITH THE VINIGAR FIRST? WHITE VINAGAR DOES CLEAN GLASS THE BEST, YOU ASK ANY TOSH DAVE KIL Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jerry Hipkiss Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 HI MATE, JUST TO CLARIFY WHEN YOU SAY VINIGAR? WHAT YOU SHOULD BE SAYING "WHITE VINIGAR" AND NOT THE BROWN ONE THATS CALLED MALT VINIGAR" AS I ALWAYS SAY TO EVERY ONE, BEWARE OF REQUESTS,? YOU HAVE AGO WITH THE VINIGAR FIRST? WHITE VINAGAR DOES CLEAN GLASS THE BEST, YOU ASK ANY TOSH DAVE KIL Would soul snobs insist on using balsamic vinegar? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete Morgan Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 A few other uses ! Vinegar is one of those things which most of us probably take for granted .... at least beyond the required splash on the salad. And yet this amazing liquid has been revered throughout the ages for very good reasons. Some 1001 of them in fact, which is exactly what this useful little book is about. Just as the ancients probably discovered that 'forgotten' grape juice turns to wine, so, in time, they also discovered that 'forgotten' wine turns into vinegar. We will never know how, or why, someone decided that this mouth-puckering concoction could be useful. But, once they started there was no looking back. Vinegar is made from the oxidation of ethanol in wine, cider, beer, fermented fruit juice or nearly any other liquid containing alcohol. The more common forms are white, malt, wine and cider but the longer list contains fruit vinegars, balsamic, rice, coconut, cane, raisin, date, beer and honey. The earliest records from 5000BC show that the Sumerians used vinegar as a cleaning agent and we can all understand why it took a bit of time to bring vinegar back to the table. Babylonian records show vinegar used as a preservative, which means that someone had realized that vinegar slows, or stops the action of bacteria. What would a pickled onion be without vinegar? Not pickled, that's for sure! The armies of Caesar used vinegar as a drink, we are told and even today there are many who will swear by its health-giving properties. Cleopatra, they say, dissolved pearls in vinegar so she could win a wager that she could consume a fortune in a single meal. Helen of Troy was more sober in her use of vinegar and bathed in it regularly to relax. The history of vinegar is nothing if not colourful. The famed Greek physician, Hippocrates, prescribed it to his patients for numerous ailments and during the Middle Ages in Europe, thieves poured vinegar over their skin to protect themselves before robbing victims of the Black Plague. Even as late as World War 1 vinegar was being used to treat wounds on the battlefields and a bottle of vinegar is still a camper's best friend for treating rashes, bites and minor ailments. But it is probably only in recent years, as we have become more ecologically aware, that vinegar has come back into its own as a cleaning agent. It is cheap, non-toxic, very environmentally friendly and effective. If you haven't discovered vinegar as a cleaning agent yet then this little book will help you to do so. I've been a bit of a vinegar aficionado for some time now in terms of cleaning, preferring to keep chemicals to a minimum around the house, but I am even more of a convert since discovering a wonderful vinegar treatment for hayfever and sinus. Made with grape seed extract and horseradish, garlic, turmeric and spices, it is naturally fermented and works a treat. Vinegar: 1001 Practical Household Uses, is divided into easy-to-find sections with tag labels clearly marked for Laundry, Cleaning, DIY, Outdoor-gardening, Cookery, Health and Beauty and Pet Care. dj related needs PMJ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 THAT'S JUST AN EXCUSE TO GET YOUR PINNY AND MARIGOLDS ON. (LOL). THE OLD WASHING-UP LIQUID AND COLD WATER DOES IT FOR ME, BUT WILL NOW TRY OTHER SUGGESTIONS. BARRY. KGB. KTF. Those damn marigolds dont half get in the way when your on the decks mate Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dante Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Would soul snobs insist on using balsamic vinegar? The only good joke in the whole thread Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mach Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Nahhh ..the "Marigolds" was much Funnier! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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