Spook Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Hi all, I have been offered a Troy Dodds Demo and I have searched (mans look anyway) on Soul Source for any info about a repress. I have looked in JM 5th Ed and the record is not in bold therefore no information about a repress. However going on POPSIKE I found a belgium demo repress, from the photo's the only difference I can see is, on the repress "Troy dodds' appears to be the the same width as the record title "TRY MY LOVE' where on the original it is 'Troy Dodds" and fits under the Y & V. There is also a repress Issue (yellow) this time the artists name is correct Troy Dodds but again it is the same width as the title TRY MY LOVE where the original fits under the Y & V. Any further info folks !! Thanks David Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 First off, issues are multicoloured. Demos are white and have DEMAC stamped on the label. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spook Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 Hi , Ok, I should have said the issues were multicoloured but the main colour is yellow. Do all the demos have DEMAC stamped on them? David Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Had my Demo for almost twenty years, hope the scans of both sides help you. Regards - Mark Bicknell. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Do all the demos have DEMAC stamped on them? David The ones I've seen have.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spook Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) The ones I've seen have.... I have used up all my goes on popsike but there is repress demo on there. I'll try again tomorrow. Many thanks for the scan Mark. David Edited September 14, 2009 by spook Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest loma 1 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 i used to live about 20 miles outside san francisco a couple of years ago i used to drive down El Camino now and again when i went into the city i didnt realise untill a came back to the UK that troy dods was on the same El Camino that i used to drive down i could have looked for the address and had a picture taken next to the sign Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 when I was last over there, I took Liza on a right jaunt, looking for those Bloody Mountains! never did get there, funny how a 45 can lead you up the garden path!! Mal Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest loma 1 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 when I was last over there, I took Liza on a right jaunt, looking for those Bloody Mountains! never did get there, funny how a 45 can lead you up the garden path!! Mal those mountains could have been mount tam where they recon Gary Fisher invented mountain biking or they could have been montara mountain just outside half moon bay where i didnt invent mountain biking Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I have used up all my goes on popsike but there is repress demo on there. I'll try again tomorrow. Many thanks for the scan Mark. David Hi Spook, you are correct with both the issue and promo being booted. Both have artist name too big in relation to title as you stated. Promo boot also has no capital D on surname(ie dodds instead of Dodds) On the Issue boot the 'El Camino Records' around the label middle does not flow as smooth in it's curvature. My promo has the DEMAC stamp as Joe mentions, wheras I think Demac BMI is printed as part of the label design on the issue...presumably they must have forgot to add the Demac text to the promo label and so stamped them on afterwards...should imagine all promos will have the stamp if this is the case. Regards Mace Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 The issue boots actually read DEMAC BNI (instead of BMI). How someone could make such a glaring mistake when trying to make something look authentic is laughable! Some scans below. ORIGINAL ISSUE: BOOTLEG ISSUE: ORIGINAL WHITE DEMO: BOOTLEG WHITE DEMO: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest SteveJohnston Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 The issue boots actually read DEMAC BNI (instead of BMI). How someone could make such a glaring mistake when trying to make something look authentic is laughable! Some scans below. ORIGINAL ISSUE: BOOTLEG ISSUE: ORIGINAL WHITE DEMO: BOOTLEG WHITE DEMO: Seeing as we are already on the case of Troy Dodds, is there a price & quantity difference between the demo & issue. By the way I'm talking about the original Steve J Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spook Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Hi, Many thanks guys, especially Mace, Sebastion, Pikeys dog, Mark Bicknell for your assistance. Need to get this thread into the "sharp end of vinyl" for future reference for others as there is no mention in JM Edition 5. Best David PS Long time no see Mace Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 seeing them side by side its easy to tell but we havent always got that luxury. thank god for soul source eh. they never get the typeface right do they dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 seeing them side by side its easy to tell but we havent always got that luxury. thank god for soul source eh. they never get the typeface right do they dave blimey, didnt even know it had been booted - is this a recent boot or has it been around for years? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 blimey, didnt even know it had been booted - is this a recent boot or has it been around for years? recent as far as i know grant dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
grant Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 recent as far as i know grant dave you learn summat every day on here! thanks Dave. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spook Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 [Hi All, Just to finish off why I started this thread. I have been waiting for a label scan for a couple of days and below the email I have just received. hello david i have bad news the troy dodds is bootlegs ,im verry disapointed i have pay this 400£ ,my firends have look this records is proffesional seller is know original i have buy this one bastard seller in belgium im verry sorry for this best regards All ways good to check, but no Troy Dodds Please look out for this 45 as a boot. David Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hermanthegerman Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 As far as I´m concerned I saw the bootlegs being sold by just one geezer from Belgium, Fillippo (Fill something on evilbay), who sells lots of Popcorn stuff. If he sells bootlegs he always states "repro" in the description, so take your time and read;) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 (edited) THERE IS ALSO A BOOT OF THIS ON THE WHITE DEMO (LABEL LOOKING IDENTICAL TO THE ORIGINAL ONE ABOVE) BUT THEY STUCK HARD ROW TO HOE BY OTIS LEE, ON THE OTHER SIDE. BRI PINCH. Edited September 18, 2009 by bri pinch Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spook Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Hi Gerd, The problems arrive when somebody buys the 45 as a 'boot' and then passes it on as an original. It the 2nd seller you have to watch for not the original guy who puts repro in his advert. Best David Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) https://cgi.ebay.com/TROY-DODDS-NORTHERN-SOUL-ON-EL-CAMINO-HEAR-IT_W0QQitemZ250646198089QQcategoryZ306QQcmdZViewItem This one on eBay appears very suspicious to me... Although 'Troy Dodds' does seem to be the right size, so maybe some did have 'DEMAC' written on the label, rather than the regular stamp. Edited June 13, 2010 by pikeys dog Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Philt Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Seeing as we are already on the case of Troy Dodds, is there a price & quantity difference between the demo & issue. By the way I'm talking about the original Steve J Issue always was harder to track down but think someone found a few a couple of years or so ago. Traded my issue but still have a rather tatty demo I picked up v cheap; great great record IMHO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Issue always was harder to track down but think someone found a few a couple of years or so ago. Traded my issue but still have a rather tatty demo I picked up v cheap; great great record IMHO The issues turned up in the 'West Coast Find' that John Manship/Craig Moerer and a.n. other carved up between themselves. There were enough issues in 'the find' to make it more common than the demo (I reckon your looking at a 25 count at least). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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