Troy Dodds - Try My Love - El Camino

[Spook]

Hi all,

I have been offered a Troy Dodds Demo and I have searched (mans look anyway) on Soul Source for any info about a repress.

I have looked in JM 5th Ed and the record is not in bold therefore no information about a repress.

However going on POPSIKE I found a belgium demo repress,

from the photo's the only difference I can see is, on the repress "Troy dodds' appears to be the

the same width as the record title "TRY MY LOVE' where on the original it is 'Troy Dodds" and fits under the Y & V.

There is also a repress Issue (yellow) this time the artists name is correct Troy Dodds but again it is the same width as the title TRY MY LOVE where the original fits

under the Y & V.

Any further info folks !!

Thanks

David

[pikeys dog]

First off, issues are multicoloured.

Demos are white and have DEMAC stamped on the label.

[Spook]

Hi ,

Ok, I should have said the issues were multicoloured but the main colour is yellow.

Do all the demos have DEMAC stamped on them?

David

[Mark Bicknell]

Had my Demo for almost twenty years, hope the scans of both sides help you.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

[pikeys dog]

Do all the demos have DEMAC stamped on them?

David

The ones I've seen have....

[Spook]

The ones I've seen have....

I have used up all my goes on popsike but there is repress demo on there. I'll try again tomorrow.

Many thanks for the scan Mark.

David

Edited September 14, 2009 by spook

[Guest loma 1]

i used to live about 20 miles outside san francisco a couple of years ago

i used to drive down El Camino now and again when i went into the city

i didnt realise untill a came back to the UK that troy dods was on the same El Camino that i used to drive down

i could have looked for the address and had a picture taken next to the sign

[Mal C]

when I was last over there, I took Liza on a right jaunt, looking for those Bloody Mountains! never did get there, funny how a 45 can lead you up the garden path!!

Mal

[Guest loma 1]

when I was last over there, I took Liza on a right jaunt, looking for those Bloody Mountains! never did get there, funny how a 45 can lead you up the garden path!!

Mal

those mountains could have been mount tam where they recon Gary Fisher invented mountain biking

or they could have been montara mountain just outside half moon bay where i didnt invent mountain biking

[Mace]

I have used up all my goes on popsike but there is repress demo on there. I'll try again tomorrow.

Many thanks for the scan Mark.

David

Hi Spook, you are correct with both the issue and promo being booted.

Both have artist name too big in relation to title as you stated.

Promo boot also has no capital D on surname(ie dodds instead of Dodds)

On the Issue boot the 'El Camino Records' around the label middle does not flow as smooth in it's curvature.

My promo has the DEMAC stamp as Joe mentions, wheras I think Demac BMI is printed as part of the label design on the issue...presumably they must have forgot to add the Demac text to the promo label and so stamped them on afterwards...should imagine all promos will have the stamp if this is the case.

Regards

Mace

[Sebastian]

The issue boots actually read DEMAC BNI (instead of BMI). How someone could make such a glaring mistake when trying to make something look authentic is laughable!

Some scans below.

ORIGINAL ISSUE:

BOOTLEG ISSUE:

ORIGINAL WHITE DEMO:

BOOTLEG WHITE DEMO:

[Guest SteveJohnston]

The issue boots actually read DEMAC BNI (instead of BMI). How someone could make such a glaring mistake when trying to make something look authentic is laughable!

Some scans below.

ORIGINAL ISSUE:

BOOTLEG ISSUE:

ORIGINAL WHITE DEMO:

BOOTLEG WHITE DEMO:

Seeing as we are already on the case of Troy Dodds, is there a price & quantity difference between the demo & issue.

By the way I'm talking about the original

Steve J

[Spook]

Hi,

Many thanks guys, especially

Mace,

Sebastion,

Pikeys dog,

Mark Bicknell

for your assistance.

Need to get this thread into the "sharp end of vinyl" for future reference for others as there is no mention in JM Edition 5.

Best

David

PS Long time no see Mace

[Dave Pinch]

seeing them side by side its easy to tell but we havent always got that luxury. thank god for soul source eh. they never get the typeface right do they

dave

[grant]

seeing them side by side its easy to tell but we havent always got that luxury. thank god for soul source eh. they never get the typeface right do they

dave

blimey, didnt even know it had been booted - is this a recent boot or has it been around for years?

[Dave Pinch]

blimey, didnt even know it had been booted - is this a recent boot or has it been around for years?

recent as far as i know grant

dave

[grant]

recent as far as i know grant

dave

you learn summat every day on here! thanks Dave.

[Spook]

[Hi All,

Just to finish off why I started this thread.

I have been waiting for a label scan for a couple of days and below the email I have just received.

hello david

i have bad news the troy dodds is bootlegs ,im verry disapointed i have pay this 400£ ,my firends have look this records is proffesional seller is know original i have buy this one bastard seller in belgium

im verry sorry for this

best regards

All ways good to check, but no Troy Dodds

Please look out for this 45 as a boot.

David

[Hermanthegerman]

As far as I´m concerned I saw the bootlegs being sold by just one geezer from Belgium, Fillippo (Fill something on evilbay), who sells lots of Popcorn stuff.

If he sells bootlegs he always states "repro" in the description, so take your time and read;)

[bri pinch]

THERE IS ALSO A BOOT OF THIS ON THE WHITE DEMO (LABEL LOOKING IDENTICAL TO THE ORIGINAL ONE ABOVE) BUT THEY STUCK HARD ROW TO HOE BY OTIS LEE, ON THE OTHER SIDE.

BRI PINCH.

Edited September 18, 2009 by bri pinch

[Spook]

Hi Gerd,

The problems arrive when somebody buys the 45 as a 'boot' and then passes it on as an original.

It the 2nd seller you have to watch for not the original guy who puts repro in his advert.

Best

David

[pikeys dog]

https://cgi.ebay.com/TROY-DODDS-NORTHERN-SOUL-ON-EL-CAMINO-HEAR-IT_W0QQitemZ250646198089QQcategoryZ306QQcmdZViewItem

This one on eBay appears very suspicious to me...

Although 'Troy Dodds' does seem to be the right size, so maybe some did have 'DEMAC' written on the label, rather than the regular stamp.

Edited June 13, 2010 by pikeys dog

[Philt]

Seeing as we are already on the case of Troy Dodds, is there a price & quantity difference between the demo & issue.

By the way I'm talking about the original

Steve J

Issue always was harder to track down but think someone found a few a couple of years or so ago. Traded my issue but still have a rather tatty demo I picked up v cheap; great great record IMHO

[pikeys dog]

Issue always was harder to track down but think someone found a few a couple of years or so ago. Traded my issue but still have a rather tatty demo I picked up v cheap; great great record IMHO

The issues turned up in the 'West Coast Find' that John Manship/Craig Moerer and a.n. other carved up between themselves.

There were enough issues in 'the find' to make it more common than the demo (I reckon your looking at a 25 count at least).