Love Is Alright - Anyone Know This Version?

[Pete S]

MP3 just below

n.b. theres 30 seconds cut out of the middle

Edited September 15, 2009 by Pete S

[Guest]

Them drums sound iffy to me !! it ok though.

[Pete S]

  On 14/09/2009 at 17:48, ken said:

Them drums sound iffy to me !! it ok though.

What sort of iffy?

[Gasher]

who is it pedro

like it but not as much as Jessie..playable version none the less

gasher

[Pete S]

  On 14/09/2009 at 17:57, GASHER said:

who is it pedro

like it but not as much as Jessie..playable version none the less

gasher

I'll just wait and see if anyone knows before I say anything mate

[Tony Foster]

Mayer Hawthorne

[Guest]

  On 14/09/2009 at 17:53, Pete S said:

What sort of iffy?

Too nice,programed

[Pete S]

  On 14/09/2009 at 18:05, ken said:

Too nice,programed

Don't agree that they're programmed myself...

[Pete S]

  On 14/09/2009 at 18:02, Tony Foster said:

Mayer Hawthorne

doh!

[Gasher]

oops cats out then

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeoowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

gasher

[Guest]

I think its really good!...I know what Ken sort of means but I wouldnt say programed I would say more like RAW and un-polished and that makes it for me, percussion wise, also...it sounds like someones banging a wooden spoon on a bin lid. It has that "roots" feeling. I would play that out no problem, different and not as crafted as JJ, and not as good vocals but sometimes its more enjoyable like that.

My quids worth anyway

[Pete S]

  On 14/09/2009 at 19:21, Steve Lane said:

I think its really good!...I know what Ken sort of means but I wouldnt say programed I would say more like RAW and un-polished and that makes it for me, percussion wise, also...it sounds like someones banging a wooden spoon on a bin lid. It has that "roots" feeling. I would play that out no problem, different and not as crafted as JJ, and not as good vocals but sometimes its more enjoyable like that.

My quids worth anyway

The thing is - this is a 2009 recording by a white guy! Just shows that you really CAN make proper, good authentic sounding Northern Soul music in this day and age, because to me that sounds like an authentic 60's record

[Guest]

  On 14/09/2009 at 19:28, Pete S said:

The thing is - this is a 2009 recording by a white guy! Just shows that you really CAN make proper, good authentic sounding Northern Soul music in this day and age, because to me that sounds like an authentic 60's record

Made in a garage, no frills....just like a lot of the 60`s stuff we all love!

[Chalky]

  On 14/09/2009 at 19:28, Pete S said:

The thing is - this is a 2009 recording by a white guy! Just shows that you really CAN make proper, good authentic sounding Northern Soul music in this day and age, because to me that sounds like an authentic 60's record

but he hasn't made an authentic record, he's covered an actual 60's record.

The music gives it away as a "new" recording to these cloth ears, as said earlier to programmed.

Edited September 14, 2009 by chalky

[Guest]

  On 14/09/2009 at 19:42, chalky said:

but he hasn't made an authentic record, he's covered an actual 60's record.

The music gives it away as a "new" recording to these cloth ears, as said earlier to programmed.

Words like SOUNDS and LIKE were also mentioned chalky

[Chalky]

  On 14/09/2009 at 19:54, Steve Lane said:

Words like SOUNDS and LIKE were also mentioned chalky

sorry mate I didn't read it all properly, trying to quickly catch up

[Guest]

[Dysonsoul]

BLOODY RUBBISH , IT DON'T SOUND 60'S AT ALL....

[Guest]

Drums not programmed, just a drummer that can keep a steady beat! Gonna see them next month here in California, looking forward to it. I've been complaining for years how there's no bands worth seeing live, then I see Kings Go Forth last year and then then guys soon.....

[Cheapsiderecords]

Doh - when I saw Guess Who I was on my way upstairs to look through my boxes of iffy Canadian 45's in case it was a B side by them.

[Dylan]

its is terrible. Can't think of anything I like about it.

so who is this guy he obviously likes northern or is being guided by somebody who likes northern......

[Pete S]

  On 14/09/2009 at 23:17, Dysonsoul said:

BLOODY RUBBISH , IT DON'T SOUND 60'S AT ALL....

Amazing, everyone who heard it - including me - thought it was a 60's recording to start with!

[Guest paup-ine]

Great. Got my toes tapping

P

[Johnmcc]

Thought it was IL, it's that bad.

[funkyfeet]

Is it on vinyl being a new release?

[Guest johnm]

  On 15/09/2009 at 00:20, newer said:

Doh - when I saw Guess Who I was on my way upstairs to look through my boxes of iffy Canadian 45's in case it was a B side by them.

ditto !!

[Pete S]

  On 15/09/2009 at 09:56, johnmcc said:

Thought it was IL, it's that bad.

Did you actually listen to it?

[Corbett80]

Don't bother with any of these and listen to Cliff Nobles version instead as that beats all the others hands down imho

[Garethx]

I think it's unnecessary and pretty dire to be honest. But thanks as always for posting Pete.

[Pete S]

  On 15/09/2009 at 10:59, garethx said:

I think it's unnecessary and pretty dire to be honest. But thanks as always for posting Pete.

Don't get my wrong, I'm not championing anything here, I only heard it yesterday and I didn't like the original version to start with. Just thought people might like to become aware of it. But to compare to an Ian Levine production is daft because Ian obviously uses multi tracks, this one sounds like it was done live or on 4 track and I think it sounds like a real 60's record. It's on a bonus record (3"!) given away as an extra with a new release cd.

p.s. unnecessary to whom?

[Guest James Trouble]

Good production, I like the sound.

Shame it's a reworking of cliff/Jesse. It makes it a bit pointless.

If they could write their own song, we could have something on our hands here.

[Pete S]

  On 15/09/2009 at 11:27, James Trouble said:

Good production, I like the sound.

Shame it's a reworking of cliff/Jesse. It makes it a bit pointless.

If they could write their own song, we could have something on our hands here.

Thats what I was saying, I think they made a pretty good attempt at a 60's sounding production.

Don't know anything about the artist but his myspace page describes him as a 'soul singer'. I was just intrigued because it was on a 3 inch vinyl single!

[Garethx]

  On 15/09/2009 at 11:10, Pete S said:

Don't get my wrong, I'm not championing anything here, I only heard it yesterday and I didn't like the original version to start with. Just thought people might like to become aware of it. But to compare to an Ian Levine production is daft because Ian obviously uses multi tracks, this one sounds like it was done live or on 4 track and I think it sounds like a real 60's record. It's on a bonus record (3"!) given away as an extra with a new release cd.

p.s. unnecessary to whom?

Unnecessary for me personally. If it is Mayer Hawthorne I quite like some of his other stuff and appreciate what he does in some ways. I wish that he stuck with this general approach, but on new material as that is more interesting to me. However if it gets fans of 'old' soul music to listen to his other stuff then I suppose it serves a useful purpose.

These kind of note-for-note covers of old music are not for me though: I think it's fairly clear that this is a wholesale facsimile of the Jesse James recording, adding nothing in terms of interpretation or arrangement.

[Pete S]

  On 15/09/2009 at 11:39, garethx said:

Unnecessary for me personally. If it is Mayer Hawthorne I quite like some of his other stuff and appreciate what he does in some ways. I wish that he stuck with this general approach, but on new material as that is more interesting to me. However if it gets fans of 'old' soul music to listen to his other stuff then I suppose it serves a useful purpose.

These kind of note-for-note covers of old music are not for me though: I think it's fairly clear that this is a wholesale facsimile of the Jesse James recording, adding nothing in terms of interpretation or arrangement.

Isn't just the same as alternative versions of Motown songs by different artists though?

[Guest James Trouble]

  On 15/09/2009 at 11:40, Pete S said:

Isn't just the same as alternative versions of Motown songs by different artists though?

I think Gareth does have a point. It's a cover of one of the best, but not as good. It makes it pointless for us, really. But may be nice for 'noobs' who may not have heard it yet as it may turn their ear to better things, if it gets exposure on the radio and trendy music scene.

Good to hear it though, got to appreciate the production.Thanks for posting, Pete.

Edited September 15, 2009 by James Trouble

[Wrongcrowd]

I like it.....it's not a million miles away from Jesse James' take, but so what. The other tracks on the album are quality soul....You just have to check the the music that's influenced the guy......Holland, Dozier, Holland, Smokey Robinson, Curtis Mayfield, Martha and the Vandellas, The Notations, The Dramatics, Spinners, Marvelettes, Supremes, Temptations, Four Tops, Mary Wells, The Precisions, Mike Terry, Barry White, Isaac Hayes, The Montclairs, James Jamerson and the Funk Bros, The Moments, Temprees, Whatnauts, Tom Brock, Eddie Holman................he's one of us (if that's not such a bad thing).

He's putting out real soul music to a market that isn't really interested, and if that can't get support on this site, then he really is wasting his time.

[Guest James Trouble]

  On 15/09/2009 at 12:33, Wrongcrowd said:

I like it.....it's not a million miles away from Jesse James' take, but so what. The other tracks on the album are quality soul....You just have to check the the music that's influenced the guy......Holland, Dozier, Holland, Smokey Robinson, Curtis Mayfield, Martha and the Vandellas, The Notations, The Dramatics, Spinners, Marvelettes, Supremes, Temptations, Four Tops, Mary Wells, The Precisions, Mike Terry, Barry White, Isaac Hayes, The Montclairs, James Jamerson and the Funk Bros, The Moments, Temprees, Whatnauts, Tom Brock, Eddie Holman................he's one of us (if that's not such a bad thing).

He's putting out real soul music to a market that isn't really interested, and if that can't get support on this site, then he really is wasting his time.

Good point, Cliff. Agree with this. But also with Gareth.

It deserves support, for it's production values if nothing else. But I'm not sure it's relevant to the rare soul scene until he gets an original song, and not an inferior cover of one of the best IMO.

Any sound files of his other stuff from the album?

[Wrongcrowd]

Check this.....when I said he's one of us....I didn't realise how right I was.............

https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=54075697

....crate digging at Brownie's

[Garethx]

  On 15/09/2009 at 12:58, James Trouble said:

Good point, Cliff. Agree with this. But also with Gareth.

It deserves support, for it's production values if nothing else. But I'm not sure it's relevant to the rare soul scene until he gets an original song, and not an inferior cover of one of the best IMO.

Any sound files of his other stuff from the album?

Ii think you can hear most of his material on Spotify James.

[Guest James Trouble]

  On 15/09/2009 at 13:05, Wrongcrowd said:

Check this.....when I said he's one of us....I didn't realise how right I was.............

https://vids.myspace....ideoID=54075697

....crate digging at Brownie's

The myspace page is here: https://www.myspace.com/mayerhawthorne Can hear his other things there.

Can't knock him. Good stuff, nice productions, although more covers.

Edited September 15, 2009 by James Trouble

[Rich B]

Given that the northern scene has thrived on alternate versions/instrumentals of either, known northern, or covers of Motown etc (Hit records anyone - Jenny & the jewels etc) for the entire time it has existed, some of the comments are interesting. I heard it for the first time on Friday through headphones, and it is definitely of interest to any scene that insists on 60's sounding records. The very fact two versions exist and have been played already kind of point to that.

Isn't it being given away free with the album a la Silhouettes?

best,

RB

[boba]

  On 15/09/2009 at 11:40, Pete S said:

Isn't just the same as alternative versions of Motown songs by different artists though?

if you're talking about stuff on the "hit" label, those were alternate versions attempting to cash in on the original by people who would know the original but confuse them. these are attempts to cash in on dumb hipsters who would never know the original anyways. it really doesn't matter to mayer hawthorne whether or not the people on soul source or other "real" soul fans approve of his music because he has plenty of people who do. so i would say it's a totally different phenomenon than alternate versions of motown songs, these are covers 40 years later for an audience that never heard of the originals. anyways, "just ain't gonna work out" was great, even if the "group" was all overdubs.

[Ernie Andrews]

I quite like it- Its abit raw and I can understand why someone thinks the drums are programmed even if they are not.

Boba says this is for hipsters- well a lot of records we prize have been either remade or re-released for the popular scene of the day- It would be funny at a gig by them- If the Dj played the Jesse James version just before they came on stage.

[Pete S]

  On 17/09/2009 at 22:11, Rich B said:

Given that the northern scene has thrived on alternate versions/instrumentals of either, known northern, or covers of Motown etc (Hit records anyone - Jenny & the jewels etc) for the entire time it has existed, some of the comments are interesting. I heard it for the first time on Friday through headphones, and it is definitely of interest to any scene that insists on 60's sounding records. The very fact two versions exist and have been played already kind of point to that.

Isn't it being given away free with the album a la Silhouettes?

best,

RB

It is, but it's on a vinyl disc the same size as a cd!

[Benji]

  On 18/09/2009 at 09:10, Pete S said:

It is, but it's on a vinyl disc the same size as a cd!

I bought the CD the other day, it's a 4" solid centre 45 rpm record. Wish it was vinyl but it's just crappy plastic. I recommend to put the song onto CD and stop playing the disc to prevent it from wear. my copy plays through but there's a tiny little scratch and it jumps after about 8-10 secs into the song.

Nice gimmick tho'.

[Sutty]

  On 15/09/2009 at 10:05, funkyfeet said:

Is it on vinyl being a new release?

it's on 4" single with his lp