Davetay Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Except for Prawn Cocktail - they should be banned. Pigeon Fancier's the first nighter with alcohol? Aside from the Ritz which pre-dates the PFC signficantly (and recorded all the naffer results that can follow from alcohol in its time - some woman called Judith got chucked out for sneaking in a bottle of Bacardi as I remember) give me a break - pretty sure the Unicorn (1985 RSG in Leighton Buzzard) and the Fleet (1983 Dedicated Soul Club days) served alcohol (though I may be mixing up the alldayers - all a Riker blur I'm afraid) and I'm sure they weren't the first either. Still think it goes against the grain big style. Dave Yes the Ritz sold alcohol, but not all night. Judith always had a bottle in her bag.
Dave Rimmer Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Except for Prawn Cocktail - they should be banned. Pigeon Fancier's the first nighter with alcohol? Aside from the Ritz which pre-dates the PFC signficantly (and recorded all the naffer results that can follow from alcohol in its time - some woman called Judith got chucked out for sneaking in a bottle of Bacardi as I remember) give me a break - pretty sure the Unicorn (1985 RSG in Leighton Buzzard) and the Fleet (1983 Dedicated Soul Club days) served alcohol (though I may be mixing up the alldayers - all a Riker blur I'm afraid) and I'm sure they weren't the first either. Still think it goes against the grain big style. Dave Things obviously are still a blur. Helps if you read the post you are replying to properly. Nobody said other allnighters didn't serve alcohol, but the Bolton Pigeon Fanciers club served alcohol all night, legally, well before any other allnighter had an all night license.
Davetay Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 The Allnighters at Bolton Pigeon fanciers club were nothing to do with Derek or Phil. It was me and John Mills that promoted those. And yes, as far as I'm aware it was the first allnighter with a legal all night bar. It was to do with the Club's licence, because the pigeon clocks had to be returned to the headquarters of the Pigeon Fanciers Association (and this could be any time of the day or night if it was a big race from Europe) their licence to sell alcohol was any 35 hours a week. When we ran the first allnighter there they took more money on the bar that one night than they had in the previous three months ! Sadly, once they realised the money they could make from running all night Jamaican Blues Parties every fortnight they told us to bugger off, so the Northern fans couldn't have been buying that much beer ! Sorry Dave, I don't know why I thought it it was D.W. & P.D. Anyway I might have got part of it right. Dave. P.S. Did Phil run The Griffin in Leeds.?
Guest brivinyl Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Should we allow crisps at nighters? Only Seabrook ORIGINAL flavour.
Guest brivinyl Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Indeed lol I was at Lifeline and someone walked right across the floor to and from the bar. I was at a soul night recently and someone was dancing on the carpeted area near the bar. Things just seem to be getting out of hand on the soul scene these days.
Dave Rimmer Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Sorry Dave, I don't know why I thought it it was D.W. & P.D. Anyway I might have got part of it right. Dave. P.S. Did Phil run The Griffin in Leeds.? Phil Dick may have been involved, but I know Pat Brady was.
Guest Soultown andy Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Around 4oo in at maxims sat bar open allnite no one falling about,no arguments whats the problem.If anyone can fing a decent niter venue were the managment wont insist on the bar being open,id like to see it.
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) Are some of you really that sheltered that you can't cope with a bit of beer spillage and drinking on the dancefloor every now and then. When I used to knock about in Indie clubs I'd have to squeeze the beer out of my t-shirt a couple of times a night and that's before the band came on. Some of us like getting bladdered, some of us like taking gear. Maybe it's getting to the point where niters need to introduce a tea and biscuits bar complete with complimentary anusol - whadya reckon Now about banning the crisps.....I reckon ready salted are okay but anything else....... Scandalous post, shirts wringing with beer, the very thought! Getting bladdered, taking gear? Good lord, this is Northern Soul we are talking about !!! (Yeah, you are right mate, just think once upon a time this scene was renowned for attracting rebels and mavericks!) Edited September 14, 2009 by chorleysoul
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Except for Prawn Cocktail - they should be banned. Pigeon Fancier's the first nighter with alcohol? Aside from the Ritz which pre-dates the PFC signficantly (and recorded all the naffer results that can follow from alcohol in its time - some woman called Judith got chucked out for sneaking in a bottle of Bacardi as I remember) give me a break - pretty sure the Unicorn (1985 RSG in Leighton Buzzard) and the Fleet (1983 Dedicated Soul Club days) served alcohol (though I may be mixing up the alldayers - all a Riker blur I'm afraid) and I'm sure they weren't the first either. Still think it goes against the grain big style. Dave What? Pigeons or crisps?
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 NO - has had nothing but negative effects on the nighter scene - hate it. Dave NOTHING BUT A NEGATIVE EFFECT? Bollocks, I've had some of the greatest nights of my life pissed in places like the 100 CLUB and YATE let alone hundreds of Soul nights - thats too dramatic!
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I was at a soul night recently and someone was dancing on the carpeted area near the bar. Things just seem to be getting out of hand on the soul scene these days. Ive been doing that for 35 years, there again I was always a prick at school too
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Why are they joking,used to be ok before why not now ? if someone can find a village hall book the top djs,i would go............. Theres a night like that BISHOPSTOKE in hampshire - you have to go out to the pub next door - biggest wind up ever - feels like a bloody youth club do
ALIVE'N'KICKIN Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 The booze just makes you less sore when you dance
macca Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 A Carpetdancer is a variant of the carpetbagger. Their modus operandi is exactly the same, i.e. they move into an area with the sole purpose of extracting whatever is beneficial to them with no real committment to establishing roots. I think they should be given their marching orders, especially when they crowd tables and sweat profusely.
Guest Rich Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Sorry Dave, I don't know why I thought it it was D.W. & P.D. Anyway I might have got part of it right. Dave. P.S. Did Phil run The Griffin in Leeds.? I'm sure he did - I remember Cooperman driving the wrong way down a one way street one Sunday morning due to those dashed late bars at the Griffin. Had some great nights in Leeds in them days. Trunks out
Guest chrislokeh Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Some need a beer or three at a niter or they'd be up till Thursday. Nice one
NEV Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Total utter bollocks. I've been doing nighters since I was 16 in '87 and beer and other stuff goes hand in hand with the record bars and chatting with like minded normal everyday folk. Sometimes on here it's like the nanny state gone mad.. Rich Well said Rich I'd be sick as a parrot if the alcohol stopped at 12 am ,not everyone who drinks is a p**head or acts like a dickhead . Some of us prefer a drink than the other stuff .......water drinking brigade Mind you i struggle at allnighters anyway cos im such a light weight ,ten pints is my limit these days
Chalky Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Suppose that makes me a then. I like a drink if im honest (not in a way that makes me an alcoholic of course) - just the generation i've been brought up in i suppose. BUT i dont think that turns the nighter scene into a p!ss head scene. The fact is, back in the day (which is obvious to my profile i wasnt around for, but many people i know were), the drug of alcohol was swapped with something else. That drug(s) still exists today but nowhere near as popular a choice imo, for many differing reasons; a good thing too. yes but the drug of choice back in the day made people dance all-night, talk b*ll*cks all-night and by an large didn't attract an unruly element only there cause there was a late bar and an opportunity to try an pull. Now I like a drink with the best of 'em and back in the day I could pour it down me but the fact that alcohol wasn't available at an all-nighter made them IMHO a better experience. Alcohol brings out the c*nt in some folks who can't handle it and as said it's usually all over the dance floor. But I su[ppose times change and we have to realise that venue owners make their money from the bar and most don't give a sh*t if there was a northern night in their venue or a "normal" club night.....most prefer the normal club night as usually mnore alcohol is sold. Maybe all-nighters should go back to membership only, any membership to a soul club gets you in anywhere, bit like working mens clubs at least that would keep out the p*ss heads!
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Sorry Dave, I don't know why I thought it it was D.W. & P.D. Anyway I might have got part of it right. Dave. P.S. Did Phil run The Griffin in Leeds.? Was that the hotel ? Pat Brady and Phil D i think ? ,first one was fantastic then just fizzled out after that.
old but nimble Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Nothing wrong with having a drink helps you loosen up, but it should be kept of the dancefloor. went to a mini nghter last week and people were trying to dance with pint glasses in hand, how the hell can you dance with a pint glass in your hand, these were people who had come for a late drink and not the music
macca Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 They evidently danced so as to be less conspicuous then. Did they dance in the approved fashion?
Guest BigPaul Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I'd sooner hear someone talk Audible Bollox, than the slurred variety, its far more interesting, less agressive ,rational and more interesting bollox Trust me on this Having said that the niters i attend, , Burnley ,Lifeline, Wigan, Rugby no probs A couple of young fellas with drinks were swiftly removed by security off the dancefloorv at Rugby Sat Nite , no fuss though Think that Ady may have had the odd problem over the years with the 100 being in the middle of Oxford Street.
Davetay Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Was that the hotel ? Pat Brady and Phil D i think ? ,first one was fantastic then just fizzled out after that. Ya, it it was in a hotal, there weren't that many and the 1st was best.
Ian Parker Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Should we allow crisps at nighters? Many a true word spoken in jest...they are banned at my venue. Well they won't sell them anymore, because the piss heads that hire the room for "normal do's" throw them all over the place, and they are a mare to clean up. Debbie - But would you still allow someone to bring in some crisps or other food? One venue i went to would not let me bring in my food, that i do have to eat every two hours due to hypoglycemia plus my diabetic needles
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Listen to you all!!, i never said ban ALL alcohol from allnighters, i, myself enjoy a drink in the early hours, i merely asked if it was necessary to open the bar ALL night!, a lot of clubs close around 3am, wouldnt this be a reasonable time to stop serving beer to stop such folk leaving their clubs, pissed up and cumming to ours...just for the beer! BC
Quinvy Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Debbie - But would you still allow someone to bring in some crisps or other food? One venue i went to would not let me bring in my food, that i do have to eat every two hours due to hypoglycemia plus my diabetic needles No problem there, I always nip out for a pizza half way through the nighter and devour it up in the Kestrel Suite.....
Guest Beeks Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I'm getting a little pissed off at some of the comments on here that seem to assume that anyone who has a drink at a nighter is a slurring trouble maker that wants to fight and throw his drink over the dancefloor instead of doing the infinitely more pleasurable thing and drinking it ffs Lots of people I know go to nighters without the need for recreationals and stay out of trouble Look at Dave Rimmer...bumped into him at Rugby station after a nighter at around 10am and he still had a can of Boddingtons in his hand
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 They evidently danced so as to be less conspicuous then. Did they dance in the approved fashion? Exactly. I mean the point - not the way they danced
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Debbie - But would you still allow someone to bring in some crisps or other food? One venue i went to would not let me bring in my food, that i do have to eat every two hours due to hypoglycemia plus my diabetic needles Needles yes, crisps no.
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) I'm getting a little pissed off at some of the comments on here that seem to assume that anyone who has a drink at a nighter is a slurring trouble maker that wants to fight and throw his drink over the dancefloor instead of doing the infinitely more pleasurable thing and drinking it ffs Lots of people I know go to nighters without the need for recreationals and stay out of trouble Look at Dave Rimmer...bumped into him at Rugby station after a nighter at around 10am and he still had a can of Boddingtons in his hand They're mad mate, mind you......just spotted that light blue thing. Now can CITY possibly conspire to become more unpopular than UNITED in a few years?? 5,000 more headlines like the one today 'the richest club in the world' will do it!!! More beer all round I say Edited September 14, 2009 by chorleysoul
Suzannek Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Well said Rich I'd be sick as a parrot if the alcohol stopped at 12 am ,not everyone who drinks is a p**head or acts like a dickhead . Some of us prefer a drink than the other stuff .......water drinking brigade Mind you i struggle at allnighters anyway cos im such a light weight ,ten pints is my limit these days Yeah and the rest, beermonster For the record, I enjoy a tipple, at Rugby niter on Saturday night I knew I was driving from York the next day so I had a few blue wkds up from 8.30 pm ish till 11pm then went on the soft drinks. A lot of the time I drive, so a lot of the time I cannot have a drink anyway, but it is nice when I am not driving to be able to have a few drinks or ten I'm as daft as a brush whether I drink or I don't. Suz x
Guest BigPaul Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 'Beeks'I'm getting a little pissed off at some of the comments on here that seem to assume that anyone who has a drink at a nighter is a slurring trouble maker that wants to fight and throw his drink over the dancefloor instead of doing the infinitely more pleasurable thing aLots of people I know go to nighters without the need for recreationals and stay out Look at Dave Rimmer...bumped into him at Rugby station after a nighter at around 10am and he still had a can of Boddingtons in his hand Beeks. The only detrimental comment seems to be yours at the bottom of the first page. Obviously your paranoia about the demon drink. Be careful!you'll finish up like SteveL!! Be Good Paul
Guest Beeks Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 They're mad mate, mind you......just spotted that light blue thing. Now can CITY possibly conspire to become more unpopular than UNITED in a few years?? 5,000 more headlines like the one today 'the richest club in the world' will do it!!! More beer all round I say It's the Sky 4 manipulating the media mate...an Old Fashioned 'Witch Burning' to stop the heathens from breaking their cartel
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 It's the Sky 4 manipulating the media mate...an Old Fashioned 'Witch Burning' to stop the heathens from breaking their cartel See, the conspiracy theories are out already - and they havent won anything yet!
Reg Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Now now, this is a thread about alcohol at niters..no turning it into an anti City thread or you will have me to deal with!!
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Who cares either way,we'll all be dead one day
Reg Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Who cares either way,we'll all be dead one day That my friend could be a standard response to rather a lot of questions....
Guest Beeks Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Who cares either way,we'll all be dead one day Seriously Kenny...you're like a modern day Friedrich Neitzsche sometimes
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 That my friend could be a standard response to rather a lot of questions.... Looks like a standard "lifes too short" answer to me Reg girl and remember the long thread i started with vote's for and against,anybody know how to find it ? think it was fairly even voting.
Guest Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) Seriously Kenny...you're like a modern day Friedrich Neitzsche sometimes Who the, is he ? Looked him up,interesting fella' and a German Edited September 14, 2009 by ken
Ady Croasdell Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Think that Ady may have had the odd problem over the years with the 100 being in the middle of Oxford Street. Not too much considering, and as an imbiber myself nothing too unreasonable. It's a weird combination though and the two drugs, alcohol and amphetamine are very different in so many ways. I would say they usually don't mix well (the people on them) but again we've both varieties down the club over the years with little friction. As a teenager I used to get blasted with the lads on a Saturday night, have a hoot then neck some bombers and have a ball at a nighter too. Two nights out in one!
Mike E Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Listen to you all!!, i never said ban ALL alcohol from allnighters, i, myself enjoy a drink in the early hours, i merely asked if it was necessary to open the bar ALL night!, a lot of clubs close around 3am, wouldnt this be a reasonable time to stop serving beer to stop such folk leaving their clubs, pissed up and cumming to ours...just for the beer! BC But why penalise the Nighter people because you are worried about the clubbers coming in pissed up. As I mentioned in a previous posting "Don't let them into the venue". Management have the right to refuse entry.
Ian Parker Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Needles yes, crisps no. Debbie - The test kit needles tell me my blood sugar level, so i know how many bags of crisps & chedders to eat! I understand alot of people dont really know about this condition, but it can be quite dangerous without the savory nibbles, that i eat every two hours, i can go straight into a coma, or if i eat too many sweet things, i can be more aggressive than a yob after alchol! I think clubs need to provide a good service for everyone Alchol if you want it (while keeping an eye on folk that do get out of hand), water & soft drinks if you dont, snacks & crisps etc, & consider people with disabilities & health problems, because without the paying public there would be no club! Edited September 15, 2009 by parkash
NorthernMoorSoul Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 wasnt the bar open at the wheel all night? The original Wheel,Brazenose St or Whitworth St,were never licensed,coffee,milk or juice.Members used to go to the local bars first if they wanted a drink,the White Hart which I believe is now Monroe's being one of them. Times have of course changed and the bar is open right through at 'nighters.
Theresa Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Total utter bollocks. I've been doing nighters since I was 16 in '87 and beer and other stuff goes hand in hand with the record bars and chatting with like minded normal everyday folk. Sometimes on here it's like the nanny state gone mad.. Rich I haven't got a problem with anyone's poison at niters, but ironically the only time my entire night has been utterly ruined by a beer-spilling, woman-bothering, stupid-dancing, in yer face pisshead, that pisshead was YOU Rich Buckley...
Professorturnups Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 But why penalise the Nighter people because you are worried about the clubbers coming in pissed up. As I mentioned in a previous posting "Don't let them into the venue". Management have the right to refuse entry. Agree with you Mike. As a dancer I have encountered numerous incidents on the dance floor with idiots spilling drinks etc. Very annoying especially when you have undertaken a 3 hour (plus) journey to get there including the sh*tty road system out here in Norfolk just to get within sniffing distance of a motorway!! So I don't have a problem with an all night bar - just the people who use it as a means to getting p*ssed and ruining the night for rest of us Mark C
Guest Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 I went to a niter a couple of years ago, it got that bad with the piss heads it nearly ended up in a fight between the soulies and the "intruders". word had got around that there was a late bar at this venue and they came in their droves, the management were asked to stop letting all these folks in but they still kept a`commin, beer on the dance floor and an allround bad atmosphere. imo this isnt Northern Soul as we know it.
Jules Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 The original Wheel,Brazenose St or Whitworth St,were never licensed,coffee,milk or juice.Members used to go to the local bars first if they wanted a drink,the White Hart which I believe is now Monroe's being one of them. Times have of course changed and the bar is open right through at 'nighters. cheers for that, I always thought there was a bar at the original wheel for some reason.
Guest Perception Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) No need, when you can have some good old fashioned amphetamines . Edited September 16, 2009 by Perception
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