Was this legitimately released on Washpan or was it only on acetate? Is the later 'reissue' on Washpan with Oh Not Me on the flip actually the first US release?

The original 60's presses are vinyl test pressings not acetates. They have plain white labels with handwritten credits...'Oh not me' was also on the flipside.

The story usually goes that there were only 6 or so copies, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were more...my copy went to Tim Brown many moons ago.

The Washpan labelled copies were modern day presses from the 90's, but I believe they are legit.

  On 05/09/2009 at 12:56, Flynny said:

The original 60's presses are vinyl test pressings not acetates. They have plain white labels with handwritten credits...'Oh not me' was also on the flipside.

The story usually goes that there were only 6 or so copies, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were more...my copy went to Tim Brown many moons ago.

The Washpan labelled copies were modern day presses from the 90's, but I believe they are legit.

Thanks Dave

  On 05/09/2009 at 13:21, Matt Male said:

Thanks Dave

They are legit. Got Gino to press some copies up and paid him upfront. Only got half and he made rest up with Tomangoes re-issues. He didn't even put the track I asked for on b-side. Some instr he had a "blank" of.

I was NOT happy.

ROD

  On 05/09/2009 at 12:56, Flynny said:

The original 60's presses are vinyl test pressings not acetates. They have plain white labels with handwritten credits...'Oh not me' was also on the flipside.

The story usually goes that there were only 6 or so copies, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were more...my copy went to Tim Brown many moons ago.

The Washpan labelled copies were modern day presses from the 90's, but I believe they are legit.

Dave, my copy came from Tim, did yours have "George Washington" written in the credits as the artist (instead of Gino Washington) because this one does? ( I understand that Tim might have had more than one over the years, just thought you might remember your old one)

  On 05/09/2009 at 14:20, purist said:

Dave, my copy came from Tim, did yours have "George Washington" written in the credits as the artist (instead of Gino Washington) because this one does? ( I understand that Tim might have had more than one over the years, just thought you might remember your old one)

It did indeed

Wish I'd kept it

I'll try and find the scan I kept of it to compare

  On 05/09/2009 at 14:12, modernsoulsucks said:

They are legit. Got Gino to press some copies up and paid him upfront. Only got half and he made rest up with Tomangoes re-issues. He didn't even put the track I asked for on b-side. Some instr he had a "blank" of.

I was NOT happy.

ROD

What should have been on the flip then Rod? Do tell.

  On 05/09/2009 at 15:59, Soul-Slider said:

What should have been on the flip then Rod? Do tell.

I've no idea but he did have it on a "record" blank same as the original "Rat Race". Listened to a few things he had lying about and just said "this one". Thought it would help sell the other side. Typical Detroit instr kinda thing.

ROD

First person i remember playing it was good old Dave T at Stafford.I went out to DETROIT at that time being invited round Ginos house.We went thru some of his records and pulled out a copy of Rat Race he told me only 5 were made he said the remaining 3 went to his band members,then handed it to me and said you can have this one to keep. flippng brill i said and thank-you. Yes as Flynny said hand written on plastic at 7 inch. Dont remember what was on the flip thou. Kind regards Gilly

  On 05/09/2009 at 17:02, Gilly said:

First person i remember playing it was good old Dave T at Stafford.I went out to DETROIT at that time being invited round Ginos house.We went thru some of his records and pulled out a copy of Rat Race he told me only 5 were made he said the remaining 3 went to his band members,then handed it to me and said you can have this one to keep. flippng brill i said and thank-you. Yes as Flynny said hand written on plastic at 7 inch. Dont remember what was on the flip thou. Kind regards Gilly

ey up pal, bout time you was on here, you've plenty to tell

Gino Washington - Rat Race - Acetate -

Nice one mate wasnt Lifeline the buisness last week regards Gilly

I'm pretty sure that Dave Thorley's copy was a metal acetate from Soul Bowl. He'll let us know, no doubt. Good to see you posting Gilly, welcome, Ady

  On 05/09/2009 at 17:24, ADY POUNTAIN said:

I'm pretty sure that Dave Thorley's copy was a metal acetate from Soul Bowl. He'll let us know, no doubt. Good to see you posting Gilly, welcome, Ady

Didn't know that...that'll be interesting if it was...then again nothing surprises me when it comes to things that have emerged from the legendary 'Shelves of Anderson'...those mystical places that contained things that us mere mortals could only dream of!

(Hi Gilly and Ady ...long time y'all!)