Ljblanken Posted August 25, 2009 Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) just a question, is this version of 'lonely girl' the same recording as the young folk version on the same label? does anyone know the story behind this? thanks! https://cgi.ebay.com/...id=p3286.c0.m14 Edited August 25, 2009 by ljblanken
Guest Posted August 25, 2009 Posted August 25, 2009 just a question, is this version of 'lonely girl' the same recording as the young folk version on the same label? does anyone know the story behind this? thanks! https://cgi.ebay.com/...id=p3286.c0.m14 Have you played the B-SIDE? 'Behave Yourself'? 'Lonely Girl' is a shadow of a track by comparison
Ljblanken Posted August 25, 2009 Author Posted August 25, 2009 really? i only have the Young Folk single and was looking at the Miss Madeline on ebay....hhhmmm. maybe i should pick it up!
Guest Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 really? i only have the Young Folk single and was looking at the Miss Madeline on ebay....hhhmmm. maybe i should pick it up! Should be about £15, pick it up for 'Behave Yourself' a superb piece of midtempo Chicago youth soul. Everybody I have ever played it to, loves it including my Mrs who has a very high judgement ceiling on all things connected to Northern Soul!
purist Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Have you played the B-SIDE? 'Behave Yourself'? 'Lonely Girl' is a shadow of a track by comparison You are of course correct in saying that whether you own the Young Folk 45 or not, you still must also own the Miss M. 45 because of its double sider credentials. This was one of those classic " let's cover up the flipside several years after the top side was a popular known tune". Neither costs as much as a round of drinks, so treat yourself to both and join the northern label completists union from my less than reliable memory it was covered as Christine Cooper (?) and survived as a cover up for longer than you'd imagine. I write old cover up names on the sleeve so if anyone is deperate I can go looking. Cant be more accurate than say sometime between 78 and 85 (just because I remember a club that ran in that time frame where it was a regular play)
Ljblanken Posted August 26, 2009 Author Posted August 26, 2009 You are of course correct in saying that whether you own the Young Folk 45 or not, you still must also own the Miss M. 45 because of its double sider credentials. This was one of those classic " let's cover up the flipside several years after the top side was a popular known tune". Neither costs as much as a round of drinks, so treat yourself to both and join the northern label completists union from my less than reliable memory it was covered as Christine Cooper (?) and survived as a cover up for longer than you'd imagine. I write old cover up names on the sleeve so if anyone is deperate I can go looking. Cant be more accurate than say sometime between 78 and 85 (just because I remember a club that ran in that time frame where it was a regular play) i don't think i fully understand the term "cover up". i had heard that jamaican DJs would sometimes scratch off the name of records to protect their finds. did this also happen in britain? and did the DJ then give it a fake name? that is crazy! or do you simply mean it was covered by Christine Cooper (who i have never heard of). sorry for my ignorance!
boba Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 just a question, is this version of 'lonely girl' the same recording as the young folk version on the same label? does anyone know the story behind this? thanks! https://cgi.ebay.com/...id=p3286.c0.m14 the story behind this is in my larry blasingaine interview (www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.com). Miss Madeline was the lead singer of the young folk. The young folk are not the backing group on the "behave yourself" side but they didn't record another song for the flip so they just released the young folk track that was previously released as the b-side. The young folk were previously known as the baby miracles, they only did miracles covers before they signed to mar-v-lus. Their previous lead singer was the lead singer of the Ivories, she had a growth spurt and had to leave the Baby Miracles because she was too large to be in the group so she was replaced by Miss Madeline.
Mark Bicknell Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 i don't think i fully understand the term "cover up". i had heard that jamaican DJs would sometimes scratch off the name of records to protect their finds. did this also happen in britain? and did the DJ then give it a fake name? that is crazy! or do you simply mean it was covered by Christine Cooper (who i have never heard of). sorry for my ignorance! Exactly the same as the Jamaican DJ's apart from in the UK the label is covered by a piece of paper and a fake name and title is given to keep the record exclusive to the DJ's. Regards - Mark Bicknell.
Ljblanken Posted August 26, 2009 Author Posted August 26, 2009 the story behind this is in my larry blasingaine interview (www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.com). Miss Madeline was the lead singer of the young folk. The young folk are not the backing group on the "behave yourself" side but they didn't record another song for the flip so they just released the young folk track that was previously released as the b-side. The young folk were previously known as the baby miracles, they only did miracles covers before they signed to mar-v-lus. Their previous lead singer was the lead singer of the Ivories, she had a growth spurt and had to leave the Baby Miracles because she was too large to be in the group so she was replaced by Miss Madeline. thanks for your response! is this the guy who does the "sittin in the park" from chicago? i've heard your podcasts and they are amazing.
Ljblanken Posted August 26, 2009 Author Posted August 26, 2009 Exactly the same as the Jamaican DJ's apart from in the UK the label is covered by a piece of paper and a fake name and title is given to keep the record exclusive to the DJ's. Regards - Mark Bicknell. cool. thanks for the response!
Mak Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Have you played the B-SIDE? 'Behave Yourself'? 'Lonely Girl' is a shadow of a track by comparison Here here , worth buying just for the flip side
Baz Atkinson Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Another good example of a brill record not getting its just deserts due to the fact it is not rare? Sure Andy Dyson spun lonely girl at lifeline at some point-fantastic record !!! BAZ A
boba Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 thanks for your response! is this the guy who does the "sittin in the park" from chicago? i've heard your podcasts and they are amazing. thanks for the positive feedback, I appreciate it, if you want, if you pm me your email address I can add you to my email list for my radio show. I will post a photo of the baby miracles with miss madeline to this thread when I get home. Thanks.
boba Posted August 27, 2009 Posted August 27, 2009 thanks for the positive feedback, I appreciate it, if you want, if you pm me your email address I can add you to my email list for my radio show. I will post a photo of the baby miracles with miss madeline to this thread when I get home. Thanks. that's miss madeline with the baby miracles (aka the young folk)
Ljblanken Posted August 27, 2009 Author Posted August 27, 2009 that's miss madeline with the baby miracles (aka the young folk) cool! thanks for puttin up the pic.
Guest Gogs Posted August 27, 2009 Posted August 27, 2009 i've got both but prefer the "young folks" version of "lonely girl" but agree you have got to have "behave yourself" by Miss Madeline
Cover-up Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 i've got both but prefer the "young folks" version of "lonely girl" I thought they were exactly the same recording?
Stuart Bower Posted September 4, 2009 Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) Here here , worth buying just for the flip side That`s right pal. But the answer to the guy`s question is yes-both Miss Madeline AND The Young Folk`s "Lonely Girl" ARE the same cut..Isn`t this collecting lark wonderful and informative... Edited September 4, 2009 by The Big Lebowski
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