warb Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 type" ivories wand" into utube,how much is this?,how many copys known?.is one for sale. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest posstot Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 type" ivories wand" into utube,how much is this?,how many copys known?.is one for sale. If you mean the "please stay", the copy you have seen is an ultra rare issueing of an "oliver" recording/issue. Which isn't so rare but indemand.....at a couple of hundred?? or a little less. The Wand issue is a wierd and a rare one that i hadn't heard of, or seen, for that matter. At least i think that is the case. Someone else is bound to add there two pennies worth...which will quite honestly, probably, be more acurate than my waffling on!! Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John A Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 DESPENZA not oliver Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
shute Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 The Wand release is very rare, dont know the story behind it but I'm sure that Mick Smith has it as I believe that he has the complete set ? or does he ???? In the Wand listing, it lists that the Just Brothers '' Carlena '' was also released on Wand, but I have never seen one or know anyone who has ??????? Unless anyone knows better !!!! now theres a challenge !!! with scans Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tommaso Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 I suggest you to buy the Despenza copy, 600-700£ should be enough! Wand copy is a true holy grail, probably in the top 10 of rarest NS records! I've heard someone got the Wand copy on ebay for 4.99$ buy it now though, is it true??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 I suggest you to buy the Despenza copy, 600-700£ should be enough! Wand copy is a true holy grail, probably in the top 10 of rarest NS records! I've heard someone got the Wand copy on ebay for 4.99$ buy it now though, is it true??? John Kelly the Scouse-Manc got a Wand copy off ebay as a buy it now. I'm sure he told me it was $6 though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 John Kelly the Scouse-Manc got a Wand copy off ebay as a buy it now. I'm sure he told me it was $6 though mark speakman also has WAND COPY , GOT HIS Despenza COPY OFF HIM WHEN HE PICKED THE WAND ONE UP STEVE T Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest posstot Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 If you mean the "please stay", the copy you have seen is an ultra rare issueing of an "oliver" recording/issue. Which isn't so rare but indemand.....at a couple of hundred?? or a little less. The Wand issue is a wierd and a rare one that i hadn't heard of, or seen, for that matter. At least i think that is the case. Someone else is bound to add there two pennies worth...which will quite honestly, probably, be more acurate than my waffling on!! Mike I told you I'd be right about being wrong at least. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest posstot Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 DESPENZA not oliver What am i getting mixed up with then on oliver? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Anyone have a scan of the Wand release - Benji? Was issued twice on Despenza? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mach Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 What am i getting mixed up with then on oliver? Steinways leading me on Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest posstot Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Steinways leading me on Ha ha....you're not wrong.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sonnyboy Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 John Kelly the Scouse-Manc got a Wand copy off ebay as a buy it now. I'm sure he told me it was $6 though No it was actualy $3.99. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sonnyboy Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 John Kelly the Scouse-Manc got a Wand copy off ebay as a buy it now. I'm sure he told me it was $6 though No it was actaully $3.99. It was sold on for £1500 by someone on here. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 No it was actaully $3.99. It was sold on for £1500 by someone on here. I was including P&P Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) I think 3 times, as there's a variation similar to the one on the right but with smaller text! High hopes from the producers! Anyone have a scan of the Wand release - Benji? Was issued twice on Despenza? Edited August 16, 2009 by monster Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 So you can pay either £700 for a Despenza issue or £1500 for it on Wand. What's your reaction Warb? I don't have one to sell btw... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I think 3 times, as there's a variation similar to the one on the right but with smaller text! High hopes from the producers! Being that there were at least 3 different chicago pressings, would suggest it sold well enough locally to tempt Wand into releasing it, why they never went beyond demo stage is probably the same reason why a lot regional "hits" picked up by fairly big labels faltered, mob money, tax write-off, or lack of funds. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ficklefingers Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Being that there were at least 3 different chicago pressings, would suggest it sold well enough locally to tempt Wand into releasing it, why they never went beyond demo stage is probably the same reason why a lot regional "hits" picked up by fairly big labels faltered, mob money, tax write-off, or lack of funds. Is it MY mince-pies then, Tony.. or yours ?? Looking at the scan Simsy posted.. It's an ISSUE !?! Fingers.. Oh - and Mick Smith, having a complete collection of Wand numbers.. Has he got Ed Bruce's 'I'm Gonna Have A Party' (Wand 156) ?? Which is also a seriously rare 45.. If not - does he wanna buy one ?? Ac-tu-a-ll-y.. Bit of a 'Brainwave' just came on - a perfect part-trade.. against his issue of Gene Toons he's looking to unload. Fingers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Being that there were at least 3 different chicago pressings, would suggest it sold well enough locally to tempt Wand into releasing it, why they never went beyond demo stage is probably the same reason why a lot regional "hits" picked up by fairly big labels faltered, mob money, tax write-off, or lack of funds. yes, this was a local hit ('please stay') nobody represses a record a million times based off of "hope" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Denbo Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I was including P&P It actually cost him $3.50 But It Now and $6.00 postage and packing. Sold it for either £1300 or £1500 to a well known dealer, who I believe then sold it on for more than £3000. I can check the details of that last sentence with John if anybody's interested? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) I think 3 times, as there's a variation similar to the one on the right but with smaller text! High hopes from the producers! There is a third variation on the Despenza label- the release # is 470 and looks like the label on the left with Melvin's name on it shown in post #17. Don't own a copy - it is mentioned in the Soul Harmony book by Hunt, Kline and Beck. Edited August 17, 2009 by the yank Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) Amazed at how much innacurate stuff there is on this thread. No Mick Smith doesn't have every Wand release, no, Carlena doesn't exist on Wand as far as anyone is aware. And Ed Bruce is hard to find but isn't as rare as the Ivories Fingers. It does show up although it also fetches a lot of money. There's three or four copies of the Ivories known on Wand, and the last one went for £1,300 ish, not some of the numbers mentioned on here. As for the other copies of The Ivories, probably thrown out, or sitting in someone's basement somewhere...... Edited August 17, 2009 by Steve G 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) Hers the 470 version i originally had the one with the Itallics label but it had reversed labels so bought this about 20 years ago notice the slight difference in Ivorys Edited August 17, 2009 by Tedsoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ficklefingers Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Amazed at how much innacurate stuff there is on this thread. No Mick Smith doesn't have every Wand release, no, Carlena doesn't exist on Wand as far as anyone is aware. And Ed Bruce is hard to find but isn't as rare as the Ivories Fingers . It does show up although it also fetches a lot of money. There's three or four copies of the Ivories known on Wand, and the last one went for £1,300 ish, not some of the numbers mentioned on here. As for the other copies of The Ivories, probably thrown out, or sitting in someone's basement somewhere...... I take it, by that, you are telling me.. and not that I've mislead peeps with the wording of my post, Steve ?? Fingers.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I take it, by that, you are telling me.. and not that I've mislead peeps with the wording of my post, Steve ?? Fingers.. No just pointing something out Fingers....... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I heard the same Wand release thing about the Honeybees on Garrison as well? Is that also untrue Steve? Also, I thought the Walter Wilson was the hardest Wand? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I heard the same Wand release thing about the Honeybees on Garrison as well? Is that also untrue Steve? Also, I thought the Walter Wilson was the hardest Wand? Yes Honey Bees has never turned up, though like Just Brothers it did get a release number. One day someone may turn one up, but I suspect these were just numbers given to the records and that Scepter went instead with the Garrison inprint at the end of the day. One Garrison release that did come out on Wand however was "Humphrey stomp". Walter Wilson yes a Wand holy grail. I know of Mick Smith's which is cracked, mine and Soul Sam's. I am sure one or two other hands will go up as they always do , but it was apparantly pulled from release post pressing due to a contractual dispute and never got out of the offices, except for the engineer / producer etc. There are some other really hard ones too such as J Kelly & The Premiers in the 70s which was mispressed and re-put out on Roadshow. I'd imagine that most of them got smashed. I've never seen the second Lee Charles or the second Reflection 45s either - think it was called "Four walls and a phone" or something. ANother one I've not seen from the 60s is Jesse Hill. And one of MAxine's later efforts is also a mystery. All of this makes Wand such a Delite-ful label to collect Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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