type" ivories wand" into utube,how much is this?,how many copys known?.is one for sale.

  On 16/08/2009 at 10:05, warb said:

type" ivories wand" into utube,how much is this?,how many copys known?.is one for sale.

If you mean the "please stay", the copy you have seen is an ultra rare issueing of an "oliver" recording/issue. Which isn't so rare but indemand.....at a couple of hundred?? or a little less. The Wand issue is a wierd and a rare one that i hadn't heard of, or seen, for that matter.

At least i think that is the case. Someone else is bound to add there two pennies worth...which will quite honestly, probably, be more acurate than my waffling on!!

Mike

DESPENZA not oliver

The Wand release is very rare, dont know the story behind it but I'm sure that Mick Smith has it as I believe that he has the complete set ? or does he ????

In the Wand listing, it lists that the Just Brothers '' Carlena '' was also released on Wand, but I have never seen one or know anyone who has ???????

Unless anyone knows better !!!! now theres a challenge !!! with scans

I suggest you to buy the Despenza copy, 600-700£ should be enough! Wand copy is a true holy grail, probably in the top 10 of rarest NS records!

I've heard someone got the Wand copy on ebay for 4.99$ buy it now though, is it true???

  On 16/08/2009 at 11:22, Tommaso said:

I suggest you to buy the Despenza copy, 600-700£ should be enough! Wand copy is a true holy grail, probably in the top 10 of rarest NS records!

I've heard someone got the Wand copy on ebay for 4.99$ buy it now though, is it true???

John Kelly the Scouse-Manc got a Wand copy off ebay as a buy it now.

I'm sure he told me it was $6 though

  On 16/08/2009 at 11:35, Mace said:

John Kelly the Scouse-Manc got a Wand copy off ebay as a buy it now.

I'm sure he told me it was $6 though

mark speakman also has WAND COPY , GOT HIS Despenza COPY OFF HIM WHEN HE PICKED THE WAND ONE UP

STEVE T

  On 16/08/2009 at 10:21, posstot said:

If you mean the "please stay", the copy you have seen is an ultra rare issueing of an "oliver" recording/issue. Which isn't so rare but indemand.....at a couple of hundred?? or a little less. The Wand issue is a wierd and a rare one that i hadn't heard of, or seen, for that matter.

At least i think that is the case. Someone else is bound to add there two pennies worth...which will quite honestly, probably, be more acurate than my waffling on!!

Mike

I told you I'd be right about being wrong at least.

  On 16/08/2009 at 11:07, John A said:

DESPENZA not oliver

What am i getting mixed up with then on oliver?

Anyone have a scan of the Wand release - Benji?

Was issued twice on Despenza?

  On 16/08/2009 at 12:46, posstot said:

What am i getting mixed up with then on oliver?

Steinways leading me on

  On 16/08/2009 at 13:45, big chris said:

Steinways leading me on

Ha ha....you're not wrong....

  On 16/08/2009 at 11:35, Mace said:

John Kelly the Scouse-Manc got a Wand copy off ebay as a buy it now.

I'm sure he told me it was $6 though

No it was actualy $3.99.

  On 16/08/2009 at 11:35, Mace said:

John Kelly the Scouse-Manc got a Wand copy off ebay as a buy it now.

I'm sure he told me it was $6 though

No it was actaully $3.99. It was sold on for £1500 by someone on here.

  On 16/08/2009 at 16:38, sonnyboy said:

No it was actaully $3.99. It was sold on for £1500 by someone on here.

I was including P&P

I think 3 times, as there's a variation similar to the one on the right but with smaller text! High hopes from the producers!

  On 16/08/2009 at 13:04, Simsy said:

Anyone have a scan of the Wand release - Benji?

Was issued twice on Despenza?

Edited August 16, 200915 yr by monster

So you can pay either £700 for a Despenza issue or £1500 for it on Wand. What's your reaction Warb?

I don't have one to sell btw...

  On 16/08/2009 at 22:53, monster said:

I think 3 times, as there's a variation similar to the one on the right but with smaller text! High hopes from the producers!

Being that there were at least 3 different chicago pressings, would suggest it sold well enough locally to tempt Wand into releasing it, why they never went beyond demo stage is probably the same reason why a lot regional "hits" picked up by fairly big labels faltered, mob money, tax write-off, or lack of funds.

  On 17/08/2009 at 00:11, Tony Smith said:

Being that there were at least 3 different chicago pressings, would suggest it sold well enough locally to tempt Wand into releasing it, why they never went beyond demo stage is probably the same reason why a lot regional "hits" picked up by fairly big labels faltered, mob money, tax write-off, or lack of funds.

Is it MY mince-pies then, Tony.. or yours ??

Looking at the scan Simsy posted.. It's an ISSUE !?!

Fingers..

Oh - and Mick Smith, having a complete collection of Wand numbers.. Has he got Ed Bruce's 'I'm Gonna Have A Party' (Wand 156) ?? Which is also a seriously rare 45.. If not - does he wanna buy one ??

Ac-tu-a-ll-y.. Bit of a 'Brainwave' just came on - a perfect part-trade..

against his issue of Gene Toons he's looking to unload.

Fingers

  On 17/08/2009 at 00:11, Tony Smith said:

Being that there were at least 3 different chicago pressings, would suggest it sold well enough locally to tempt Wand into releasing it, why they never went beyond demo stage is probably the same reason why a lot regional "hits" picked up by fairly big labels faltered, mob money, tax write-off, or lack of funds.

yes, this was a local hit ('please stay') nobody represses a record a million times based off of "hope"

  On 16/08/2009 at 16:45, Mace said:

I was including P&P

It actually cost him $3.50 But It Now and $6.00 postage and packing.

Sold it for either £1300 or £1500 to a well known dealer, who I believe then sold it on for more than £3000.

I can check the details of that last sentence with John if anybody's interested?

  On 16/08/2009 at 22:53, monster said:

I think 3 times, as there's a variation similar to the one on the right but with smaller text! High hopes from the producers!

There is a third variation on the Despenza label- the release # is 470 and looks like the label on the left with

Melvin's name on it shown in post #17.

Don't own a copy - it is mentioned in the Soul Harmony book by Hunt, Kline and Beck.

Edited August 17, 200915 yr by the yank

Amazed at how much innacurate stuff there is on this thread.

No Mick Smith doesn't have every Wand release, no, Carlena doesn't exist on Wand as far as anyone is aware. And Ed Bruce is hard to find but isn't as rare as the Ivories Fingers. It does show up although it also fetches a lot of money.

There's three or four copies of the Ivories known on Wand, and the last one went for £1,300 ish, not some of the numbers mentioned on here.

As for the other copies of The Ivories, probably thrown out, or sitting in someone's basement somewhere......

Edited August 17, 200915 yr by Steve G

Hers the 470 version i originally had the one with the Itallics label but it had reversed labels so bought this about 20 years ago

notice the slight difference in Ivorys

Edited August 17, 200915 yr by Tedsoul

  On 17/08/2009 at 21:02, Steve G said:

Amazed at how much innacurate stuff there is on this thread.

No Mick Smith doesn't have every Wand release, no, Carlena doesn't exist on Wand as far as anyone is aware. And Ed Bruce is hard to find but isn't as rare as the Ivories Fingers . It does show up although it also fetches a lot of money.

There's three or four copies of the Ivories known on Wand, and the last one went for £1,300 ish, not some of the numbers mentioned on here.

As for the other copies of The Ivories, probably thrown out, or sitting in someone's basement somewhere......

I take it, by that, you are telling me.. and not that I've mislead peeps with the wording of my post, Steve ??

Fingers..

  On 18/08/2009 at 01:03, FickleFingers said:

I take it, by that, you are telling me.. and not that I've mislead peeps with the wording of my post, Steve ??

Fingers..

No just pointing something out Fingers.......

I heard the same Wand release thing about the Honeybees on Garrison as well? Is that also untrue Steve?

Also, I thought the Walter Wilson was the hardest Wand?

  On 18/08/2009 at 09:26, mulf said:

I heard the same Wand release thing about the Honeybees on Garrison as well? Is that also untrue Steve?

Also, I thought the Walter Wilson was the hardest Wand?

Yes Honey Bees has never turned up, though like Just Brothers it did get a release number. One day someone may turn one up, but I suspect these were just numbers given to the records and that Scepter went instead with the Garrison inprint at the end of the day. One Garrison release that did come out on Wand however was "Humphrey stomp".

Walter Wilson yes a Wand holy grail. I know of Mick Smith's which is cracked, mine and Soul Sam's. I am sure one or two other hands will go up as they always do , but it was apparantly pulled from release post pressing due to a contractual dispute and never got out of the offices, except for the engineer / producer etc.

There are some other really hard ones too such as J Kelly & The Premiers in the 70s which was mispressed and re-put out on Roadshow. I'd imagine that most of them got smashed. I've never seen the second Lee Charles or the second Reflection 45s either - think it was called "Four walls and a phone" or something. ANother one I've not seen from the 60s is Jesse Hill. And one of MAxine's later efforts is also a mystery. All of this makes Wand such a Delite-ful label to collect