Guest Posted August 21, 2009 Posted August 21, 2009 Yes, I do know what you are talking about, hence the laughing emoticon! Incidentally, Sam ripped off "A Cousin Of Mine" from the great Bert Williams, the first black superstar of the vaudeville era (who performed in blackface, but perhaps we ought not to revive THAT argument... According to Sam, Sam wrote it. Pity Bert got there about 60 years earlier. While I'm on this sidebar, Bert Williams is, BTW, a genius. His song "Nobody" has to be the first ever 'Black Protest Song", again about 60 years before Sam wrote "A Change Is Gonna Come" (and no, I'm not knocking ther latter, before anyone leaps down my throat!!!). The fact that he made most of his best recordings in the first few years of the last century means that he's almost unknown to most people who collect soul music (albeit not to fans of music hall and vaudeville). But I bet a lot of his records would be of historical interest to those who want to get right to the core of American Black Music.... Anyway, this thread is supposed to be about Sam, so I'm just going to pitch a few more favourites in here: Moonlight In Vermont Everybody Likes To Cha Cha Cha Having A Party Little Red Rooster (killer diller!!!!) Let's Go Steady Again While Lot Of Woman... ...where does the list stop? For me, it never does. Oh, and I like Sugar Dumpling, too. Sam's in great voice, Bobby Womack's on guitar, it's a catchy song, there's nothing NOT to like about it in my book... Well there is something I agree with totally, never thought there was anything wrong with 'Sugar Dumpling' either....
Guest WPaulVanDyk Posted August 21, 2009 Posted August 21, 2009 seriously Bobby Womack is playing guitar on Sugar Dumpling. if so then i wouldn't have known and wow
Guest Posted August 21, 2009 Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) This post mis-functioned, may I request MODERATORS remove it? Many thanks. Edited August 21, 2009 by chorleysoul
Guest Posted August 21, 2009 Posted August 21, 2009 Incidentally, Sam ripped off "A Cousin Of Mine" from the great Bert Williams, the first black superstar of the vaudeville era (who performed in blackface, but perhaps we ought not to revive THAT argument... Except that by subtly mentioning that you have deliberately re-started it! Or should I say not-so-subtle TONY, I am very aware there were black MINSTRELS who wore blackface. But if you are somehow trying to make a case for US Black Emanicpation being rooted in vaudeville, then it falls down very quickly. It was not the simple act of 'blacking up' which caused offence to huge amounts of Black people. It was the constant depiction, within Minstrel vaudeville of the lazy yet contented n***** slave who would jump up and sing for his supper or croon love songs to the moon, every time primarily WHITE Chorus girls appeared. The genre created a false and utterly demeaning portrait of Black masculinity and it caused deep, deep bitterness amongst Afro-Americans. The fact that you can pinpoint a Black Minstrel who blacked up and wrote an early human rights anthem, does nothing to alter the cultural reality of minstrel history. I am sorry, but this is a hugely important subject and I am not going to let it pass if you insist on bringing it back up. There is no argument. The resentments of Black American's regarding this subject are massively documented. Likewise, the UK's very own 'Black and White Minstrel' show, which has been included (and rightly so) at times in teaching syllabuses for UK children studying Racism. As for the comments regarding 'the heart of Black American Music', that of course is subjective. Home is where the heart is. For Black Americans in the 20th Century the 'home' depicted within Minstrel culture, was a lingering symbol of slavery. Fact.
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 Not trying to start anything, I merely mentioned it in passing....
Drew3 Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 The music of Sam Cooke was probably there at the start of most of us getting into soul music I suspect. Awesome voice!!! Does anyone know one of his called That's It? Cracking tune with a real latin feel. If anyone is able to post it up it would be much appreciated. KTF. Drew.
Philippe Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) Does anyone know one of his called That's It? Cracking tune with a real latin feel. If anyone is able to post it up it would be much appreciated. Here it is : That's it Personnally I love songs with real sounds, like "Stealing kisses" (kisses), or "Cupid" (arrow). Edited August 22, 2009 by Philippe
Guest Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 Not trying to start anything, I merely mentioned it in passing.... Fair enough
spirit Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 Here it is : That's it Personnally I love songs with real sounds, like "Stealing kisses" (kisses), or "Cupid" (arrow). Swoooooosh. Always loved that. So simple, so bloody cool.
Guest markus gora Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 my favourite by sam cooke: i'll come running back to you
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