Mattbolton Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 phillips i think? not the greatest song, mind you, but birdie's is just an awesome vocal effort link And not even as good as the topside! 'Tremblin'' is fantastic. Her voice is so expressive. Needs a good spin really. Another lost gem..... and midpriced.....
Mattbolton Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 Back on topic. I think Joss is fantastic. When we saw her at Glasto her voice was spot on. OK, I was a little miffed at her Babs cover, but it's probably the same arguement colored cats were having back in the 60's when Elvis and Ann covered Jimmy and Lavern. Interesting that people get hung up on whether songs are fed to an artist. Most people on this list have fervently collected Motown at some point and there are only 2 acts I can think of who really wrote the majority of their own stuff. Besides. Haven't we been here with Joss on this before? I'm sure she'd be flattered that so many old folks were considering her singing talent. But would she really care? She's 18 with millions in the bank. Still, I guess no-ones immune from criticism. She does really deserve a medal for keeping the faith. Makes you wonder. Who's doing more to save soul? Some fat, old bloke playing tired, overpriced oldies to a handful of people who have heard the tunes he plays a million times before, a record dealer making a fortune by exploiting his customers off of dead wax or an 18 year old girl whose cover of Sugar Billy went to the top of the charts and opened some eyes with the kids. Who has also done more to line the needy pockets of vintage soul luminaries than both of the other two put together.....
Guest hammy Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 She does really deserve a medal for keeping the faith. Makes you wonder. Who's doing more to save soul? Some fat, old bloke playing tired, overpriced oldies to a handful of people who have heard the tunes he plays a million times before, a record dealer making a fortune by exploiting his customers off of dead wax or an 18 year old girl whose cover of Sugar Billy went to the top of the charts and opened some eyes with the kids. Who has also done more to line the needy pockets of vintage soul luminaries than both of the other two put together..... link This is a good point. I have to say though that the sound coming out of her mouth - while admittedly listenable - would be of little interest to the mainstream if she wasn't as,er, 'presentable' or,er, white. Hammy
Guest ShaneH Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 Back on topic. I think Joss is fantastic. When we saw her at Glasto her voice was spot on. OK, I was a little miffed at her Babs cover, but it's probably the same arguement colored cats were having back in the 60's when Elvis and Ann covered Jimmy and Lavern. Interesting that people get hung up on whether songs are fed to an artist. Most people on this list have fervently collected Motown at some point and there are only 2 acts I can think of who really wrote the majority of their own stuff. Besides. Haven't we been here with Joss on this before? I'm sure she'd be flattered that so many old folks were considering her singing talent. But would she really care? She's 18 with millions in the bank. Still, I guess no-ones immune from criticism. She does really deserve a medal for keeping the faith. Makes you wonder. Who's doing more to save soul? Some fat, old bloke playing tired, overpriced oldies to a handful of people who have heard the tunes he plays a million times before, a record dealer making a fortune by exploiting his customers off of dead wax or an 18 year old girl whose cover of Sugar Billy went to the top of the charts and opened some eyes with the kids. Who has also done more to line the needy pockets of vintage soul luminaries than both of the other two put together..... link bang on Matt. However the 'fat bloke' gets mentioned plenty in your posts. Do we know him? If you do name the 'fat bloke' I am sure he wont be offended but he may be jealous he cant wear those little 'crop tops' you sometimes wear Shane
Mattbolton Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 bang on Matt. However the 'fat bloke' gets mentioned plenty in your posts. Do we know him? If you do name the 'fat bloke' I am sure he wont be offended but he may be jealous he cant wear those little 'crop tops' you sometimes wear Shane link I've never understood it. All that speed 'fat bloke' takes and still he can't get into them ben shermans. If it was some 'SKINNY, old bloke' then it could only really be Catoa and that'd just be a give away...... They're only cropped cos I can't use the washing machine properly...... And my eating habits are to the detriment of my general wellbeing. Hammy, I disagree. Look at how internationally successful Alicia Keys became. Dark skinned, young lady with even deeper, darker soul leanings. Though to be honest, vocally, she shits all over our pasty soul youngster.
Guest ShaneH Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 I've never understood it. All that speed 'fat bloke' takes and still he can't get into them ben shermans. If it was some 'SKINNY, old bloke' then it could only really be Catoa and that'd just be a give away...... They're only cropped cos I can't use the washing machine properly...... And my eating habits are to the detriment of my general wellbeing. Hammy, I disagree. Look at how internationally successful Alicia Keys became. Dark skinned, young lady with even deeper, darker soul leanings. Though to be honest, vocally, she shits all over our pasty soul youngster. link Shane
jocko Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 She does really deserve a medal for keeping the faith. Makes you wonder. Who's doing more to save soul? Some fat, old bloke playing tired, overpriced oldies to a handful of people who have heard the tunes he plays a million times before, a record dealer making a fortune by exploiting his customers off of dead wax link Matt again you confuse Northern Soul with the wider soul world, suggest you log onto to www.cdbaby.com and work your way through the new soul cd's on there, unfortunately there is a whole load of real s**t but in amongst this there are genuine soul talents having to flog their cd's without a record deal, many far more soulful than Joss Stone, I do agree however she doesn't deserve the criticism she gets, from people like me admittedly, what we should do is promote these other soul cd's, however I suppose I like others get annoyed when we constantly talk about already well publicised acts other than the new soul acts that are struggling even more than before to make it! Cheers Jock
Chalky Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 (edited) She does really deserve a medal for keeping the faith. Makes you wonder. Who's doing more to save soul? Some fat, old bloke playing tired, overpriced oldies to a handful of people who have heard the tunes he plays a million times before, a record dealer making a fortune by exploiting his customers off of dead wax or an 18 year old girl whose cover of Sugar Billy went to the top of the charts and opened some eyes with the kids. Who has also done more to line the needy pockets of vintage soul luminaries than both of the other two put together..... link What bollox Matt. What has Northern Soul and Joss Stone got in common...fcuk all and I doubt whatever she sings will turn folk onto the Northern Soul scene either. She second rate compared to many artists...it's just she's got money and backing behind her. And do you really think what she does will line the pockets of some vintage soul luminaries? get real! And you really shouldn't insult fat bloke spinning records...one might be reading this and take offence and twat you one next time he see's you Why do you find it necessary to insult people who have helped make this scene what it is and give you something to enjoy? Edited July 4, 2005 by chalky
Mattbolton Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 >What bollox Matt. What has Northern Soul and Joss Stone got in common...fcuk >all and I doubt whatever she sings will turn folk onto the Northern Soul scene >either. She second rate compared to many artists...it's just she's got money and >backing behind her. It's you who's posting about her on a Northern list! I don't remember mentioning her being connected to NORTHERN soul in any of my posts. The fact that we've all been banging on about her for days means that she obviously has SOME worth in the wider genre of soul. Thus the length of this discussion. I beg to disagree with the fact that her 'Am I The Same Girl' sample doesn't sink in with the wider masses. It does, in the same way I can get 400 kids singing gleely singing 'Back Stabbers' off the back of Angie Stones 'I Wish I Didn't Miss You'. In this instance it's actually the other way round cos I'd wager people are more familiar with 'Same Girl' than they are with Joss' inferior sampling. And just like a lot of us started out dancing to motown, so the seeds are lain for better things..... Be aware that it's young people like Joss that provide the link between youth and some distant dream of a vibrant future soul scene. >And do you really think what she does will line the pockets of some vintage soul >luminaries? get real! Since she had a vintage soul artist (Betty Wright) write(sic) her stuff and another (Little Beaver) produce it, I think that's as real as it comes. I can bet you she's earned them more than anyone else has ever paid them for their efforts towards their singing/writing/production... >And you really shouldn't insult fat bloke spinning records...one might be reading >this and take offence and twat you one next time he see's you Why do >you find it necessary to insult people who have helped make this scene what it is >and give you something to enjoy? I fear my point might have been lost. The subject of that comment was actually the latter part of the sentence, the latent minded dancers. I'd be hard pushed to disprove that a bunch of 'fat blokes' hadn't shaped my outlook on music for the better over the past 8 years..... Most of whom, I may add, I cherish dearly.
Mattbolton Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 Jocko, absolutely agree with you. Not long back I mentioned a Leeds based songstress by the name of Corrine Bailey Rae. I'll post a clip when I get home, but she's truly one of the greatest new black vocalists I've heard across the the whole spectrum of decades. And she's barely older than Miss Stone. And am I sad she's not got the same recognition as Joss. Of course I am, but that's why we mostly fight the cause of the misrepresented underdog in terms of quality over hype in our choice of soul.
Guest Dan Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 I have to say though that the sound coming out of her mouth - while admittedly listenable - would be of little interest to the mainstream if she wasn't as,er, 'presentable' or,er, white. link can't agree with this hammy most of the music - certainly most of the dance music - played on radio one, viewed on totp and mtv and even written about in, say, the sun's bizarre column is black. blackness long since ceased to be a negative factor in mainstream musical acceptance (a good thing too, of course) dan
Guest hammy Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 can't agree with this hammy most of the music - certainly most of the dance music - played on radio one, viewed on totp and mtv and even written about in, say, the sun's bizarre column is black. blackness long since ceased to be a negative factor in mainstream musical acceptance (a good thing too, of course) dan link An 18 year old blonde bird with low cut tops and legs up to her arse and beyond AND a passable soul voice is gonna be easy to market - and thus - make money. However, you're right and my dinner''s ready soon. Hammy
Guest Dan Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 An 18 year old blonde bird with low cut tops and legs up to her arse and beyond AND a passable soul voice is gonna be easy to market - and thus - make money. However, you're right and my dinner''s ready soon. Hammy link i'm strongly in favour of 18-year-old blondes in low-cut tops, hammy, and even more so if they're leggy with it. but i have to confess that birds whose legs go up to their arse and beyond are not my cup of tea
Mattbolton Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 i'm strongly in favour of 18-year-old blondes in low-cut tops, hammy, and even more so if they're leggy with it. but i have to confess that birds whose legs go up to their arse and beyond are not my cup of tea link As promised, a young lady with far more talent than Joss.
Mattbolton Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 (edited) As promised, a young lady with far more talent than Joss. link can't upload the file. probably too big... Edited July 4, 2005 by mattbolton
Guest miff Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 Be aware that it's young people like Joss that provide the link between youth and some distant dream of a vibrant future soul scene. link This is so right. I have a 17 year old daughter who tells all her mates that her dads got the original 45s for all the samples that get used now. The one that had the biggist impact was Fat boys slim Funk soul brother, I played them Sliced Tomatoes, It blew them away, I ended up doing MP3 for all the the kids at the collage In the end it got played along side FSB In the collage disco. Bit diferant this time the kids have been round to listen to Am I The Same Girl but they dont seem to like it as much as Joss Stone ,so I tried Love Makes A Woman and now they all want that on the mp3 players
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